Dunking Our Rusty 1986 Range Rover Chassis in 1935 Litres of Evaporust Ep 62
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- Is the chelation process magic or just beautiful science? The results are clearly amazing either way but will Evaporust remove all the rust from the outside AND the inside of our rusty Range Rover chassis?
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For those of us who are not sponsored by CRC, that's about $15,000 worth of Evaporust.
Yup, I did the math as well.
That'd be one hella expensive frame restoration.
Yah. I think I would just get a nice new galvanised chassis. Good Evaporust commercial though 😉
At least. I spent $90 to fill a small 5 gallon bucket part way!!! It's $40 a gallon here.
I think you could have sent it out to be hot dip galvanized instead as an alternative vs buying a new frame or using Evaporust.
It’s a bonkers use case. Pointless really
Just an idea would be to carefully place a few large objects in the pool to raise the liquid level, this would probably use less of Evapo-Rust and reduce the process time. Really enjoy your work Edd. Thank you!
Clean 20-litre cans of oil... heavier than water.
Anything, even bags full of water.
Perhaps a waterbed mattress.
I was about to comment the same, a few buckets weighted down with sand would do.
I'll just put mine here so.. Could have placed a stack of blocks in the centre, reduced the required volume by at least a third.. or place the whole chassis in a thick bag like the tarp mentioned below, in and outlets for the Evaporust..
I've used Evaporust for over ten years and it works outstandingly. Having a 500 gallon dip tank is nice, but not very economical. The method I use is a recirculating pump with a small shower head and a small container to catch the material. I've done large projects like bumpers and axles that way. It would reduce the material use down to a couple hundred dollars at most.
Brilliant
That's an idea to keep in mind! Very smart way to get more done with less
But it seems like interior rust is the biggest worry here, does your spray method let you get material inside the parts?
@@markdoldon8852 Haven't specifically tried it but it should be just as easy. Just need to build a nozzle adapter. Could be a simple plugged hose with holes drilled in it. Just need to splash as much as possible over the rust and continuously recirculate it.
Howdy does the stuff come in gel form for brushing on? Anyone know if available in Oz?
You could have filled those 5 litre containers with water and placed them into the pool so as to raise the liquid level high enough to cover the entire chassis in one go. It's just a thought!
And a pretty good thought it was .
Ain’t that been proved before in a bathtub, by some famous guy
smart arse ain't ya
@@Soapy555Erika Johnson wasn't it?
Came here to say the same thing. Or large garbage bags full of water.
I am a mechanic and bicycle mechanic I have used Evaporust since it came out just before 2000. What attracted me was the non-toxic label and that fact that it degraded to neutral ph. It was a total miracle to me how well it worked! I still recall how shocked I was when I pulled out that formerly rusted bike chain that was then clean as a whistle! Love that stuff!
Evapo-Rust is amazing! Can’t believe it took me so long to find it myself! The transformations are wondrous and very satisfying…
Would almond croissants and fig rolls still yield the same results - I was going to experiment but when I woke from my diabetic coma, they'd all vanished! @@eddchina
@@dancarter482 test inconclusive: you forgot the scotch eggs ;)
@@DT-dc4br The essential pork/life balance; yes, of course. Galileo meets Archimedes on a muggy night ... . ..
You could raise the level in the pool without having to use more evapo-rust. Get some large plastic tubs, and put them floating on the surface of the evapo rust in the free space in the pool. Then fill the plastic tubs with either water, some breeze blocks, or just anything at all to weigh them down. The tubs will displace the evapo rust in the pool, causing the level to rise. Same idea as those "water saving hippos" that you can get to put in the cistern of your toilet, to reduce water usage.
Well doh.
I said the same thing as you until i read your statement so i deleted mine. There is another way, he could have rotated the chassis 90 degrees so it is hung on its side instead then he could have used a pool one forth the size of the pool he used.
Yep, I'd just started typing that when I noticed your post.
Didn't really matter when it was sponsored by it.
your reading my mind lol, i would've used bricks lol
Been using evaporust for a few years on small projects and love it. It works even quicker in an ultrasonic cleaner, and quicker again when heated as mentioned.
Thanks. Someone else mentioned ultrasonic cleaning with Evapo-Rust, looking forward to trying that out some time…
Maybe you could have used some large plastic bins submerged in the negative space between the frame rails to displace the liquid and submerged the entire frame?
You beat me to it i was about to say exactly the same, some large drums to fill the gaps to raise the evaporust liquid then no need to mess about turning the chassis
Yup. That's what I was thinking (great minds think alike :) )
That's what I was going to say. I can't believe Edd didn't think of that.
See my comment above. Plastic bins would work, but theywould need ballast to sink.
I've seen some great success with a mollases and water solution. 6:1 or 9:1 ratio. Maybe something to think about in future projects where rust removal without mechanical process is needed.
I am a huge fan of evaporust! Started using it almost 2 years ago on the motorcycle restorations I've done. Especially the inside of gas tanks. I have found that cleaning the parts of grease and oil first helps preserve the evaporust. You gave the best scientific explanation of the magic that happens I've heard.
Best use of stale crossaint and dog treats ever
Getting grease, oil, paint and loose rust off first is much better for the process and does make the stuff last a lot longer.
Look into electrolysis. It's all but free, does a better job and doesn't stink after.
@@otm646eletrólise corroe o metal junto com a ferrugem e pode abrir um buraco no que você estiver tirando ferrugem com eletrólise, vai por mim em uma restauração o que você não quer é peças danificadas por uma maneira de remover ferrugem que poderia ser totalmente evitável ! 🥴
@@matheustoddynho That is absolutely not true. Electrolysis does zero damage to the base metal, it only removes the iron oxide.
Electrolysis is used as an archeological preservation method for ferrous historical artifacts, like ships and equipment, specifically because of this.
I love the way Ed works and explains at the same time it keeps program moving, unlike the shows where the hosts talk to the camera all the time
So true...
Yep, other channels flash up a graphic for 2 seconds then it’s back to their face again 😑 so much unnecessary rewinding….
Your level of explanation into processes makes even a non car guy interested. Never have been a car guy but always a fan even as a kid from wheeler dealers.
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoy the episodes, it’s fun exploring new stuff so happy to share!
Thanks for sharing edd really injoy your videos ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Hi Ed! Just a note to wish you a wonderful 2024 and to say how grateful I am to have found you again and reconnected. You’re knowledge, capabilities and passion to impart are so very refreshing!
Thanks, it’s been a tough year (for so many on and off YT). ‘24 will bring many more episodes for you all!
A problem with doing this is that every other steel item in the workshop will nag on your mind for de-rusting treatment.
That's what the big tanks are for ?
Nice to see you back Edd, really missed this! Hope all is well, and thanks for the new content.
You’re welcome, been a complicated year but more content already filmed and should be edited soon… thanks for watching
@@eddchinaso u are back then that’s good to hear have a good new year edd
@@eddchina Don't be afraid to put out an update video next time, so we won't left guessing in the dark. This is not TV, this is CZcams.
@@eddchina Good to see you're back at it Edd! Looking forward to many more episodes of Workshop Diaries.
@@eddchina reading this after watching your latest really does warm my soul ❤
Hi Edd, have watched your programs for many years now. Just want to add my pennies worth. Live in Sweden now but grew up in Zambia (Northern Rhodesia) and cut my teeth on Land Rovers, from Mk1 to last model I had was 1998. Loathed Range Rover as a bush vehicle. Early 70’s they launched the model in Zambia. They fell apart and I mean literally. Aluminum panels cracked around door hinges. Windscreens were always cracking from body vibrations on bush roads not mention the fuel guzzling V8. The original Land Rover was a flexible, genius vehicle, as long as you avoided the 6 cylinder engine that ate Big end bearings. We always made 2 modifications to the LR though. There was a cross member under the gearbox that meant the interior had to be stripped out to remove the box. This we cut away, added 2 brackets on either side and bolted it in place. This allowed box removal from the underside. The other mod was very strong round bar/pipe protectors below and behind the front bumper. Saved your steering tie rods. Drove a few miles with excessive toe in after hitting tree stumps or small hard Ant hills in Elephant grass. Many thanks for your channel. Cheers
Well done for explaining the chemistry. So few of these rust removal videos make any attempt at this.
Took me a while to chase down exactly how the magic worked (the stop frame took even longer)!
@eddchina the stop motion was amazing. That is no small feat.
@@eddchina Did the stop frame material get turned into part of a buffet?
Your time was well spent. We all need to know this stuff and you did a wonderful illustration. @@eddchina
Just please don't abandone your Range for another five months, and make 25 videos about bars, food and stuff. Please. We need restorations. Find rusty, crappy, interesting cars, restore them fast, and you will be shocked, how many subscribers and views you will get. Stop doing some random stuff all over the place, polar bears etc. Do restorations
"wah wah wah. Only make videos about what I want to see!" You couldn't sound more like a child if you tried.
@@jp18449
Sorry....... who's the child?
@@samkirk3662 You, seeing as you don't know what quotation marks are.
@jp18449 looks like we caught 1.
How's it go...... was wah wah?
Yep, you caught one!
Edd China is the reason I wrench on cars! Had it not been for wheeler dealers (Edd, not Mike), I wouldn’t have had the courage to do my own work. Now I’m actually a millwright/mechanic. Thanks for everything Edd!
So glad you're back Edd! Absolutely loved the animation showing how the chemistry for the rust removal works. Thanks for the video and can't wait to see what's in store for next year!
Thanks. Galvanising is next for a start and we may well have a look at John’s cheeky new purchase too! Thanks for watching!
1935 litres of evaporust at retail prices being around six times greater than the cost of a brand new galvanised chassis
You may have me on that point!
🤪🤣🤣🤣🥸 good man Edd... keep going, ye might get it done quicker than the Binky lads😛
You can reuse it though, so it's an investment.
@@philtowle46832:32 would suggest maybe not so much, looks very ‘used’? I dunno maybe it doesn’t matter.
@eddchina He HAS got you on "that point".
Watched this channel for the first time ever and it ended up being a 36 minute infomercial for Evaporust.
Haa! Me too. Surely this video should be marked as an ad?
No one is going to do this. You bring the thing to an acid dipper for 3 to 5 hundred bucks tops.
Me too 🤦🏻♂️
Nobody else is going to be trying to save a chassis that’s rusted from the inside. They’ll just get a new chassis in that case.
Everybody who actually needs to do rust removal on a whole chassis can just paint this stuff on.
Or as I said flow the stuff over the metal with an aquarium pump. Just as good as dipping and there might even be an advantage in the agitation effect.
Cannot possibly thank you enough for the explanation of the different methods to remove rust! Definitely head and shoulders above the crowd of any other rust removal video I have seen, and I have seen all the big ones. I will definitely be using chelation even more than I was previously, thanks to you. Keep up the great work!
Thank you. Took a while to get this video over the line but I’m really chuffed with the results. Chelation is an amazing chemistry and just had to be shared! And the outside AND inside of our chassis are now completely rust free - galvanising next and that episode is nearly ready too. Thanks for watching…
A few small pumps could have been used to spray the section of frame above the liquid level. I've done this, along with old towels, on much smaller parts to keep the steel wet with the Evaporust. Works great!
A local machine shop my friend works at repurposed an old stripped down sand blast cabinet that wasn't airtight anymore and was going to be scrapped. They use a pond pump that feeds an array of plant sprinklers they attached all around the inside so it spray-bathes the part as it rotates on a turntable. They can de-rust reasonably large parts with only about 2 gallons of fluid!
Or drop in some inert objects in the big space in the middle of the chassis that will displace some chemical and raise the level in the tank.
@@DEADB33FBrilliant idea!
@@DEADB33F Something like Mike Brewer?
Wow, Ed you have been working on this project for as long as I have been working on my 1988 Porsche 951 ground up restoration project, and by the looks of your progress, you are not any closer to finishing this project than I am on mine. While you are spending thousands of dollars on evapo-rust, I am spending thousands of dollars on replacement parts for all worn out rubber and plastic parts not to mention the $20k on the engine rebuild and $5k on the transaxle rebuild. One things for sure, you and I have both proven that you can’t fully restore any vehicle without spending much more than the vehicle is worth to satisfy our own endeavors! Cheers, Ed, keep up the good work!
Your explanation of chelators and other processes are simply the best. I should know a thing or two about chelators - having used them medically my entire life. Also, adding strategic displacement volumes would help bring the level up.
I used a catheter before too.
Welcome back Edd.
Might have been a good idea to place sealed drums in the gaps of the chassis to raise the level of the liquid to totally submerge it.
Displacement would save a lot of fluid (or time) but it was good to see the before and after so clearly!
@@eddchinathat's a good point
Might have been a good idea to get some paint on it in the first place!
Shoulda filled those empty evapo rust bottles up with water and chucked em in the pool to raise the level of the evaporust.
This is a 35 minute long, ad, with other ads throughout. I get the point, but the product placement is getting in the way of actual content.
Amazing process. One thought though, having had a spraying system, keeping the chassis damp all the time, would surely had needed less liquid. Great result and what is even more great, is to see you back in action. 2023 was a rough year, lost some dear ones and other set-backs occured, but hey, 2024 will be a blast of a year. Love from a Finn in Germany
anyone notice all the videos from Wheeler Dealers have been taken down...sounds like someone didnt have permission to upload them and make money from them! naughty naughty!
I use Evaporust too but it is crazy expensive here in Canada, but I read about a really good idea on some forum a year or so back to minimize the amount needed to submerge parts, Fill the pail with marbles and it greatly reduces the volume and allows easy addition and removal of parts, adding anything to take up space will work as others have suggested. Keep the videos coming Ed.
Good to see you back Edd. Would've loved a Q&A, and also for the time it would've taken to weld on a patch to the hole and send it to the galvanisers I would've done that. Then you could've waited as long as you wanted. The chassis would never get rusty again.
Don’t worry, that is all for a future episode, already filmed most of it!! Glad you enjoyed the episode!
Why didn't you fill large totes with water to increase your coverage? You could've used water filled barrels or totes as displacers.
Really pleased to see you back Edd, you are certainly back on form. Looking forward to your next video which will hopefully not be too far away.
Well, at least I feel somewhat vindicated. Back when you were shaking around that fuel tank trying to de-rust it, I made the suggestion that filling the tank completely with evaporust is what you needed to do. You took the time to respond and basically told me purchasing that much evaporust wouldn't be practical.. .and now you went and did this.
…well, you laid down a challenge and planted a seed! It was hard work setting up but a fun process to follow, amazing chemistry and fabulous results from the Evapo-Rust (and I can still de-rust a tonne of other things too). You were certainly right about filling up the tank too!!
Damn, imagine watching this without Sponsorblock. 11 sponsored segments, plus who knows how many ad breaks, plus the whole length of the show being an actual ad.
Excellent well worth the wait. Interesting process. Great to see the Range Rover back. Looking forward to the rebuild.
Strangely John has been acting very excitedly recently too! Galvanising next (chassis looks great) and a few more Range Rover episodes already on their way… thanks for watching!
Edd is back! I'm so happy. I hope this content continues! Welcome back Edd and well done! I've missed your content. I hope all is well and wishing you a very happy 2024.
Should re release the chemical animation as a separate video, pure gold, has much wider interest beyond restoring a skanky rangerover.
Oil might keep the galvanizing from sticking. I used to work for a metal fab shop that had lots of parts galvanized and if we used soap stone or grease pencil on the metal, the galvanizing wouldn't stick and the plating company would charge extra to remove it.
Next episode, 'Dunking Our Rusty 1986 Range Rover Chassis in 1935 Litres of brake cleaner'.
first they dip the metal in the acid, so any contaminations like oil etc should be ok
@@ImhotepBE Acid doesn't dissolve oil. If they hot-dip galvanize, it might not be a problem. I'd give it a steam clean or detergent pressure wash before galvanizing if it were my project.
@@87mini im not talking about a heavy amount of oil, but you're 👍 if there is too much oil/contamination on the surface it's best to clean it off properly . Hot galvanising is good, but I have seen very bad ones when the surface wasn't cleaned properly.
Have a good day 👍
This is Project Farm level off the chart.... good effort Ed, Hope other brands trust in you and see more videos like this...
It's good stuff, but for the price and then the galvanising. Well you could have bought a new galvanised chassis.
Yeah we'd love to see more half hour adverts dressed up as content 😂
As the owner of a 1971 lightweight on a galvanised chassis loving the chassis work great to watch 😊
First of all I would like to say it is so good to have you back in Workshop Diaries I hope this means we will see regular episodes from now on you have been missed As regards the Range Rover Chassis it is like you worked a miracle as the episode proceeded I was just gobsmacked when it gets galvanized it will be fantastic I wish you a Happy New Year Ed and look forward to the next episodes best wishes Andy Allen.
Thanks Andy, hoping to post slightly more episodes next year for sure! The Evapo-Rust works brilliantly and chelation is wonderful chemistry.
Good news; the galvanising is already filmed (the chassis looks great btw) and that episode should be ready soon(ish)…
Happy New Year to you and yours too!
Yay! back in the shop! I love the rust explanation animation, reminded me of the "Secret Life of Machines" with Tim Hunkin, Remember? Thanks Edd!
Glad you liked it, took nearly as long to do the stop-frame animation as it did to do the timelapse of the Evapo-Rust chelation process. Secret Life of Machines was great! Thanks.
I definitely swear by Evaporust. You can also use cheap fish tank pumps to splash treat parts as long as you have a pan below to collect the liquid and continue pumping. I had a '71 Cadillac Coupe DeVille a few years ago. We cleaned up the intake manifold still on the engine splashing the product like this for a few days. Absolutely amazing result.
Edd could have chosen the easier route but Edd decided to give us a neat chemistry lesson while we watch. Nice to see you Edd. Hopefully you'll get to 1 million subscribers very soon bud.
Thank you for noticing! It’s such beautiful chemistry too. Hoping the million subs won’t be too far away as I have some fun ideas on how to celebrate!
Wait, is this actually a new episode? 😆 Welcome back Edd, we've missed you terribly!
You wait all year for a new episode and two turn up only a few months apart! Thanks for watching.
Love the bakery based chemistry animation. Well done. And very glad you are back!
Even as a Brit and longtime US resident, I’ve followed you since WD was shown stateside. Glad to see you doing well and I have subscribed, so don’t disappoint me. Looking forward to following the RR rebuild.
Thank you, Range Rover rebuild will continue with the chassis being galvanised (it looks great btw), so that episode should be ready soon(ish)…
Is there a moral of the story - don't remove all the rust and then leave the metal untreated? I feel this is a revolutionary breakthrough in scientific knowledge.
It is a point worth noting - if a job is worth doing, you might as well finish it promptly!
@@eddchina If it weren't for epoxy primer, Project Binky would have reverted to a pile of rust 7 years ago. I hold out hope for a new video some time in the next decade.
@@eddchina If it weren't for epoxy primer, Project Binky would have reverted to a pile of rust 7 years ago. I hold out hope for a new video some time in the next decade.
Edd stopped watching wheeler dealers the moment you left the show, brewer is a big head and loves himself, glad to watch you on u tube, no one exsplains repairs so well as you, and carried out lots of repairs on my car thanks to your tips
Soo happy to see Edd back. Looks like 2024 will be a great year!!!! Great work on the explaining of chelation also in true Edd China tradition. Really hope everyone involved in the channel are alright and doing good. Love from Sweden.
Hello Sweden! Glad you enjoyed the chelation explanation, took a while to get it all together but it was fun trying stop-frame animation for the first time! More episodes on their way in 2024!…
Great to see the Range Rover chassis again, after seeing that excellent diagram I can see where the last year or so has gone!
I spent most of the year experimenting with most parts of the production process too and learning how to make a stop frame animation, and doing bits and pieces on all of the other projects… so definitely could have done this video quicker the old way but progress is always worth striving for!
@@eddchina How much of a team do you have working on this channel? I didn't realise how much you were doing yourself. I'd be interested in some behind the scenes kind of info
As others have said, it’s great to have the sponsorship of this company, it’s sad you didn’t take full advantage of the process and available amount of the magic liquid. That pool was big enough to dunk the whole chasis at the same time, you just failed to displace the liquid by filling the open spaces around the chassis. This could’ve been accomplished with any number of things from sandbags to metal or weighted plastic boxes with airtight lids.
Glad to have you back Edd! Would have been good to have a pump firing the chemical through each of the frame ends which would have helped with agitating all the crud from the inside, also some big tubs to take up some of the volume of your swimming pool so that you didn't have to flip the frame. Was good to see the half and half grime line though!
The pumps would have been a great idea as you say, removing the crud during the process and the constant agitation would have probably sped things up a bit too.
We did consider a bit of displacement to save time but the before and after tide mark was very interesting to see (and better explained the process) so I settled on the side of more time and hassle!!
Thanks for watching…
thanks for getting back to doing some original content! very much want to see some more about whatever projects you're working on! Happy Holidays and New Years!
Plenty more Range Rover to come and perhaps a dash of John’s new Ferrari too!..
i see all the old Wheeler Dealers content has now gone.. i am a hoping this means some new content soon. i hope we get to se more with the Range Rover
just a legal takedown...uploaded with out permission
Evaporust is top stuff for sure. You can get some excellent rewith it, especially in combination with an ultrasonic cleaner for smaller stuff.
But, it's not cheap, you could have bought several new chassis for the cost of that pool of the stuff!
True, but remember our Evapo-Rust is still good for a few more chassis de-rusts yet! Love the idea of combining the chelating agent with an ultrasonic cleaner, will definitely try that some time…
It was fun to try this process out and great to know the inside of our chassis is now sorted.
@@eddchina can you run the evaporust through any kind of filter to clean it up and maybe get a bit more use out of it or just make it easier to see what's going on?
Welcome back Edd. Missed these!!
Rumour has it that if you take all the Evaporust sludge from the bottom of the pool and dry it out, you can build yourself a 1970's Alfa Romeo.
Best. Response. Ever.
Wow even the last clean off was a big difference!
It’s interesting how the Evapo-Rust dries slightly darker, makes the final reveal after washing even more satisfying!
A new video?!? A belated Christmas present. Good to see you again Edd! Keep them coming!
Don’t say I never spoil you! Hope you had a great Christmas, wishing you a fab New Year! More Range Rover madness coming soon(ish)!
Thank you for the encouragement and enthusiasm! This is much more involved; but however, much more fascinating. I have had a.little bit of experience with Evaporust, and so far it makes for creative and driven restoration projects! I had to subscribe after watching this video. Glad to have come across a great channel!👍
Seeing how much effort it’s taken on the outside, I’m positive there’s still rust deposits sitting happily on the inside of the frame 😢
Unlikely. I've used the product for years now for auto restorations....24 hour soak and some light agitation is all it needs to eat through the worst rust. It really is a life-saver when trying to save small, delicate metal objects that may not react well to harsher methods. If that frame was in there for three days, 99% of that rust is gone.
ummm did you figure that out with your eyes? because we saw the inside lit up and you could see the dark residue still. its no secret haha
@@Halliday7895 If you are talking about the "dark residue" at 31:02 or so, that appears to be paint or some sort of coating, not rust, which Evaporust won't affect. Have you ever used the product?
That frame might now actually be the very best part of that whole Range Rover! I for one no longer have any reservations regarding the rust on the inside. It's probably somewhere around 90 - 95% as strong as it was as new, which means it'll probably outlive all of us! And while the whole Range Rover project has been fun despite the delays, I have to wonder if the Ferrari that John may - or may not have purchased at the very end of this video, is a teaser for a sporty new project for future videos? Oh please, please, please!!!! : )
Thank you, yes the chassis is rather raising the bar for the rest of the project and wait until you see it galvanised (that video is on its way soon)!
John really did buy the Ferrari and yes it will become another Workshop Diaries project… keep watching this space!!
If you galvanize by dipping I think the dipping company would want a quite clean chassis to work with . They would probably charge for cleaning , blasting , inside the tubes anyway . Just maybe Ed got a nice deal on the chemical and the company got some free advertising , but that is me being cynical ; besides Ed got another great video to show us lot ! Fair play , I will talking about this to my mates ..... Loads of ways to skin a cat , some better than others and this was high on , or at the top , of the list . Electrolysis might work , but you still end up with loose stuff in the tubes probably , with rattles on the road , unless more holes are drilled to shake it all out. I suppose you could apply a wax spray to stop rattles too ! Where do you stop, like this comment , sorry finding the mac now ....
@@davidyendoll5903 No need for cynicism. All You Tubers need some sponsorship, it's how they keep going. Especially with projects of the magnitude that Ed takes on.
@@eddchina Definitely want to see lots more on the gt4!
At this rate it will Be ready for Johns not yet born great great great grandchildren........
Absolutely fantastic to see you back Edd.
Thank you!
This does not make sense: all this material expense and time spent to rescue an old Land Rover frame, not some antique treasure 😮. A brand new frame made of good galvanized steel would be a far better investment
It is just an advertisement for the chemical being used
Did this years ago, but we cut an oil drum in half, stood the chassis, on it's end in the drum, upright lent against a wall, used a pond pump to push the inhibitor up through a hose pipe, and with a couple of Y peices the ends of which were pushed in to the chassis, then the "clever bit", we simply wrapped the chassis in plastic cling film (using some left over bale wrapping film actually, but you could do it with domestic cling film). Turning on the pump pumped the rust-inhibitor up and out the half drum, up into the chassis, where it srapyed out and splashed around, runing down inside and outside of chassis, and the cling film mostly stopped it escaping as spray ;-)
36 minute "Evaporust" advert!
A heated pressure washer and an empty swimming pool, recirculate the Evaporust, use a MUCH smaller quantity. It works so much quicker when agitated and heated. It works a treat in a heated ultrasonic cleaner within in minutes instead of hours and days depending on the parts.
I’ve use this stuff on small car parts and old guns. Works great! Also works if you use a pump to just keep it wet. Good for surface where you don’t have to get inside too.
Lovely Evaporust commercial. Gotta pick up the DIY version again, because this is financially impossible if you're not sponsored .
lol, deleted last video, just here to acknowledge that it happened :P
The comment section was a massacre.💀
ahh man missed that, what happened? guess it was another "sponsored" shill of a video?
@@madgebishop5409 no..worse, this one was just a car-insurance advertisement, with a misleading title.
Missed it as well, but glad to see I’m not the only one thinking the channel is just rubbish these days
Evaporust has saved many a tool that was left outside! I'm a hero in our house for using it to clean my wife's favourite garden clippers that were lost and then found in the garden. if you have rusted and seized pliers or diagonal cutters, soaking them for a few days will free them up - I was given several buckets of rusty tools from an old-timer's shed with a leaky roof - I wire wheeled off the heavy rust then finished them in Evaporust and they came out great! Donated them to a charity shop and they're back in use!
"c'mon. Get my subscribers up to a million". Well maybe if the channel didn't essentially become a ghost town for months at a time that might have actually happened by now.
Indeed, that plea was a little tongue in cheek!! More episodes to follow soon (and a little more regularly with any luck)! Thanks for watching!
Great job, Edd. I wish you all the best in the New upcoming Year
Thank you, you too.
Well sponsorship or not, you did a bang up job explaining the process of chelation and rust removal chemically, I’m educated now thank you…and about the sponsorship( if any😉), we all need to make money to survive so…at least edd is doing it ethically! Bravo!
Nice to see fresh content Edd please keep them Rover restoration videos coming 😁😁👍👍
Don’t worry, can’t stop the restoration at this point. Already filmed the galvanising process (the chassis looks great btw) so that episode should be ready soon(ish)…
Always use a rust inhibitor after you've cleaned all the rust, it will give you some time to patch and prime the chassis before flash rust sets in.
is AC50 like WD-40?
I’d suggest Wurth Zinc Perfect primer. It leaves only zinc.
@@Eduardo_Espinoza Zinc phosphate solution, sold in paint stores as a surface preparation for painting metal. "Prep-Step", "Phospho-etch" and a number of others.
tnx :)@@87mini
Orthophosphoric acid?
An internal spray pump would have helped keep the sludge moving, but I’m sure it was adequately cleaned
I love how he absolutely forgot about water displacement and that he could use it for his advantage instead of rotating the frame to cover the other side of it 🤣
He's going to lose his mind when he learns about Archimedes.
Too be fair, Tarnished, he's also making a video and the dramatic line showing where the metal was submerged in contrast is great for a dramatic reveal. He's got the time after all.
Would it not have been easier to create a bag around the frame, then fill that? I’ve never done anything like this.
I don't think he forgot about anything and if he has it's more than you ever knew 😂
I like how other people said the same thing, but without being needlessly mean.
This is the content that Wheeler Dealers is missing at the moment in my personal opinion. Thank you Edd for making your content accessible on CZcams and have a good 2024.
The obvious 'trick' (tank volume issue) is place a number of plastic 'square' 50l full containers (with some added steel weights on top as oil etc is will have a lower specific gravity so 'float') to displace the fluid down the empty space along the center of the chassis. With a raised fluid level with the same quantity of agent probably manage a single dip 😊
+1 for the science breakdown and explanation, very few channels do that.
Looks like a lot of Aggravation? I would have just replaced the chassis with a new galvanised one. The car would have been back on the road months ago !!
0:58 "... giving me plenty of time for procrastination, distraction and more tea" 😂
I’ve used it a lot and been really happy with the results, the only failure being a bunch of small fasteners that were, I believe to have been clear sink plated, they massed into a green gluey glob, that was extremely difficult to remove. As others have mentioned, a series of weighted containers to displace the liquid, so it was completely covered. I always get that distinct tide line if I have to flip a part around, like you did. Lastly, how can you fail to mention the absurd cost of the volume you used.
I don’t get it. When the chassis gets to the galvanising works it is dipped in an acid bath prior to galvanising so why duplicate the first part of the process? Cheers !
EvapoRust is a helluva product. I used five gallons of it, about four pounds of small nuts,bolts, and washers along with a homemade rotisserie to completely de-rust and descale the inside of forty year old 60 gallon air compressor tank.
Bet that cost more than twice what a new chassis would be
Certainly cost a tonne more than the Range Rover is worth!! But it was a fun , satisfying and totally transformative process!!
You could have added objects into the tank to displace more of the fluid so you did not have to flip the frame, the only concern would be any air pockets. Using a pump to push fluid into the frame might eliminate that issue.
i restored my maytag washing machine motor and man this stuff just ate away the heavy rust like it was nothing, so freaking amazing
For this amount of money i could weld new frame from scratch
Why not use electrolysis?
It’s my favourite on not too big (very) rusty objects and works effortless. You only need a bucket (swimming pool) of water, washing soda, a battery charger and an scrap piece of steel. Amazing result too and almost for free!
That's no way to get sponsored.
@@csn583🤔😅 Maybe someone can use it as a top-tip then 😎
That was actually my original plan but as electrolysis works by line of sight and I wanted to de-rust the inside of the chassis (I was hoping to string a cable, insulated by practise golf balls, through the centre of each rail). Unfortunately the chassis is full of baffles so the Evapo-Rust solved the problem more effectively.
I’ll certainly try it on some other Range Rover parts though…
@@eddchinaThanks for your response and explanation. Of course you have thought it through thoroughly 👍🏻
Evaporust was a long-time sponsor of a favorite channel of mine. It's impressive stuff, but this obviously isn't a terribly efficient use of it.
Glad you're finally getting on with the Range Rover.. looking forward to more episodes! 👍
Happy New Year!
£10,000 worth of chemicals to restore a £3000 chassis. I understand keeping original parts but that makes no sense whatsoever
For many years I have used molasses diluted 10-20:1 with water, it also uses chelation but is very much slower than Evaporust. It continues working for a very long time.
We'll be seeing you remove the rust again next year 😂