Fixing A Rusty Fuel Tank | 1986 Range Rover | Workshop Diaries | Edd China
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- čas přidán 17. 06. 2021
- The time has come to try and fix this rusty fuel tank on our 1986 Range Rover!
Will we ever complete this project? 😂
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If anyone had told me that I’d watch a man treat a rusty petrol tank for 30mins or so & enjoy every minute, I’d have told them they were nuts. But if they then said it was Edd doing it...
Another brilliant Workshop Diaries. Roll on next Friday.
This man is such a legend. I've watched him since I was a kid. When edd left wheeler dealers I stopped watching. Exactly same as when the top gear crew left
Except for the fact Edd is a legend and Clarkson is an utter twat.
@@qumpania *looking around* huh... it seem's I can't seem to find who asked?
Sme bro☹️
@@qumpania both legends imo
@@familyman831 Jams May, Jerimiah Clarkson and Richardson Hamonde are a whole legend tier above this guy.
As an electrician I've got to give it to you, that was one of the most cogent and clear explanations of Ohm's Law, especially as it relates to volts vs amps and the human body as I've ever heard. Extra kudos for actually liking the 9V battery!
Just a superb illustration
I'm not sure he was actually *liking* the 9V battery. But he was licking it.
@@JCWren he he we mechainikker are that for a resson he he
I like the water hose analogy. Jet washer is similar to high voltage low current and as we know can cause serious damage. A fire hose will knock you over (high current low pressure) but it won’t literally take chunks out of you.
I know I'm late to the party but; AC (alternating current will kill you, DC will make you hurt yourself. Thomas Edison wanted to use DC for this reason but transformers could not be used. He used the fact George Westinghouse's AC was used for the electric chair in executions as his argument for DC. I worked for over 36 yr. at a power plant and 125v DC was used tor main switch control and was itself switched with open knife switches that I accidentally touched many times, still here.
This is why I love watching Edd. He comes up with some fantastic modifications to handle complex issues like using a tube and heat-shrink wrap to modify a vacuum. He also shows the various methods for rust which takes out trial and error for us as the home mechanics that may have a tighter budget.
The fact that one of the world's favorite mechanic can explain current, fibrilation and electr0cution much more graphically understandable or appealing than most docs or elekchickens :D love it
calm down ave lol
I don’t think he represented the danger well enough. You should only work with electrics with a healthy respect.
That is because he is smart. Not because he is a mechanic.
Excellent video! Thank you! Just brilliant!
electr0cution
My automotive meditation and zen time has arrived.
Same here 👍🏻 well said 👍🏻
Ditto!
Whats "automotiv" in english ?
In french it means automatic motivation... nothing like car thinking...
0_o ????
James May looking young and strong, I'm glad he's living a good life
😂🤣😂 good one!!!
Captain slow looks a bit different...
Don't do drugs kids.
@@Mr_Fancypants edd doesn't look like he does drugs... i think you're kinda missing the point of "don't do drugs" jokes there
It must of been that health retreat in Switzerland Hammond took them to...
My compliments to the cameraman! I love how he lets something go out of Focus while locking in onto a closer object before screen transition. I know it’s not totally unique, but it is artistic and pleasant to look at. That’s why the series Broadchurch is so pleasant to watch, the cinematography is so satisfying, and the attention to detail is absolutely fastidious.
Watching a man hoover rust out of a petrol tank, ridiculously satisfying
Did mythbusters ever do "you can make a vacuum cleaner into a jet engine by vacuuming up petrol"?
Don't take much to get you off .
Try 'pimple poppers'...even better.....
@@BibtheBoulder 😖🤣🤣🤣
Edd Why not cut the tank and it be more easier to get at rust
Edd Strap it to a cement mixer and spin the tank with nuts and bolts in it for an hour or two 👍
Good idea, how about medium sized rocks or ceramic cleaners like in metal working.
@@justrelaxing1501 Ceramic would even better but id say Edd has a good few nuts and bolts to hand and may be easier retrieved with a magnet if one gets stuck.
industrial grade paint mixer
Take it on the rides at Alton Towers.
Your electric shock analogy was one of the best I've ever seen, and I only have 45 years experience in the electrical industry. Rust treatment was also interesting. Back in the 70's we had galvanised steel dustbins and the lid on ours was rusty. My Dad treated three area's of rust. One with Hammerite paint, one with Jenolite and one with Kurust. 15 years later the only patch that hadn't gone rusty was the one treated with Hammerite. Another 5* video Edd.
Since "Wheeler Dealers" - a great series by the way - Ed China has gone from strength to strength. Why are his tutorials so magnetically watchable? For someone who has barely done more than change a faulty sparkplug it is hard to say. His patience and attention to detail must be legendary, and of course his careful explanation of everything he does is nothing less than edifying!
Chuck that tank onto an electric cement mixer using some straps. Let it turn for a few hours with those screws.
Best done before fixing outside
just what I was thinking
There will be holes in the tank by the time you get back...
Exactly the trick most commonly used. Of course tumble it dry. Those chemicals would otherwise dampen the effect. I think Vaporrust would do the trick but it only treats what is submerged. Tumbling with only such chemical slows the process...
We use broken safety glass, you get a super smooth surface
I have seen farmers strap fuel tanks to the outside of a very large tractor wheel and then just drive the tractor around a bit with all the screws etc in the tank, works a treat.
Not only is Edd China the worlds favourite car mechanic...He is also the worlds BEST car mechanic.
Edd China...There is no easy way for me to say this...You are AWESOME.
I've never seen anybody explaining the Ohm's law in a such brilliant way
Haha love seeing edd trying to get around problems like this, last time I did a fuel tank that was that bad pretty much went down the same route but used some washed 20mm gravel and a cement mixer for the agitation. Worked a treat 👍
Cement mixer and ball bearings was my theory
I would have suspended the tank on a rope to take the weight.
Mustie1 does it by strapping the tank to the wheel of his truck which is jacked off the ground, and just puts it in low gear and lets the engine do the work.
Yay more Edd goodness, honestly a week goes by so slowly when you anticipating something. Thank you Edd for your great work yet again! Actually farmers used coca cola here for quite some time to de/un-rust bolts that were rusted shut and it seemed to work great.
I've cleaned the inside of many incredibly rusted metal motorcycle tanks using a good battery charger, a strap of metal, and some washing powder. Super easy, and not a molecule of rust left. I would have loved to see him go over that method, especially when he was explaining current and voltage to such a degree. The old "anode, cathode" principle. Love the show Edd.
Do you have a website or video link to how to do this method?
Hi Dr G , I have a scaled up rusty old petrol tank which I need to clean out as well, would you mind sharing your method please?
thank you
please show us how you did this...
czcams.com/video/ICW01HFbaxc/video.html
That vacuum trick is genius. That's exactly the kind of ingenuity I live for. lol
Edd's gone through his fair share of Gü cheesecakes to get that many left over dishes. Have to say, they do come in very handy and we've got a bunch of them in a cupboard at home too!
He should get Gű in as a sponser
damn, beat me to it - I was just going to mention the cheesecake jars!
I have about 50 of them in my little electronics workshop !
Looks like creme brulee to me!
They are very tasty, I have a bunch of them coming in my groceries order later today! 😁
Folks over the pond have project farm, we have Edd. Brilliant stuff.
Project farm is, by far, the most thorough of all the similar channels on CZcams, shame that you can't get most of the stuff he tests in the UK.
Edds patience is legendary. The Rover is 100% rust with some paint on top.
Ed you're a man after my own heart!
Your diligence to do things the right way and your attention to detail is quite superb and extremely admirable!
The time & effort expended on that fuel tank is commendable!! 👏👏👏
Earliest I’ve ever been for an Edd video. Looking forward to this after a tough week!
Thanks so much for answering my question Edd. Fascinating stuff, a real "school day" for me :)
This amount of research and effort to explain in an understandable way important safety practice is something that goes over my expectations. Outstanding.
Best vid yet imo. No fairly uninteresting interviews with seemingly random people. No ask ed. Just Ed doing what he's good at and showing us how.
Very much enjoyed the simplified but effective demonstration and explanation for V =I/R and it's affect on the body.
Loved it!
"It's the volts that jolts, but the mills that kills" as we were taught in the TV repair trade.
" current that kills" but horses for courses :)
I would have cleaned the inside before the outside, and before that bought a new tank 😀
Yeah, never know when the rust convertor goes and completely converts your tank...
to liquid.
Wise words. Costs of Gunk + Labour + Uncertainty = New Tank for me.
Yes I think Edd said a new tank was £140. Definitely spend the money in this case!
@@markbennett6658 if it's rusty; replace it. Seems to be the theme. This shows rust isn't always a big problem.
@@forevercomputing I’m all for saving and restoring original stuff. This was already a replacement part though and as Edd has demonstrated this is a pretty labour intensive process using quite a lot of chemicals and consumables so I’d go the replacement tank route and weigh in the old one.
However It’s great to see Edd go through the process and the science. He’s almost an automotive Heston Blumenthal!
I'm fixing my dads old Achilles Lido moped for my son. You can not even imagine how much you just helped! Thank you!
I cleaned a rusty gas tank with rust dissolver and attached the tank to my electric cement mixer with ratchet tie downs to keep it agitated worked great.
I was going to suggest the same thing although I've never tried it.
Should do like Mustie 1 did, he jacks up the back of his toyota tundra straps the tank full of nuts to a rear wheel and lets it run in low gear for an hour lol.
And he usually gets a good result.
Just posted the same. 😁
I was about to say the same thing.
Me too!
A tank full of nuts plus a few gallons of evapo-rust will really clean it out.
WD youtube: 278k subs
Edd China youtube: 651k subs
I think that settles it then.
All I see is 929 total subs. All happy.
Every time I watch one of these videos I'm taken aback to the days of watching WD and fast forwarding through Mike's parts
@@ncmartinez_his
Edd China
651K subscribers
😅😂..... .my fav part was Ed teaching on the work being done. Nice and motivating
Well people have no choice if they want to see Edd they have to watch his youtube channel, where as WD is constantly shown on TV and they don't have full episodes on their youtube so of course people don't bother to subscribe there. Also most of the clips on the WD youtube are old shows with Edd anyway, so whats your logic here? Edd is somehow good on his own channel but bad on WD? What exactly do you think is settled?
You weirdo's need to let this obsession with WD go. It was Edd's choice to leave the show.
Ed explains the physiological effects of electricity including a Taser and everyone is, justifiably so, praising him. Not only is this video mechanically informative, it’s an unintended lesson on how credibility and popularity impacts people’s receptiveness to information. Another great video Ed.
Ed is a wonderful teacher / mechanic. Using simple examples to explain complex principles ...
Love what your doing here edd, its a perfect format, love how you jump from one project to another, which in real garage life is the normal!
Brilliant explanation of current and voltage, I understood that fully, and never could get my head round the difference. Number of electrons v force pushing them. Brilliant. But for the love of engines where were the SAFETY GOGGLES 🤦♂️ So much glass flying.
I never "got" voltage and current as anything other than an abstract number until A-Level Physics gave Voltage it's other name of "Potential Difference".
@@stamfordly6463 I know what you mean, but even that leaves me thinking “right... what does that mean and how’s that different” it’s the layman’s terms that help.
@@memybikeni9931 Just think of welding, higher the amps thicker the metal you can melt but you still only have 240 volts.
@@Laugh1ngboy Yes it’s those real work analogies that make a difference. Thanks
Ed China is the best teacher ever.
Love it Edd. I'm doing a degree in Electronics Engineering and that is the most concise and most helpful explanation of electrical current in DC circuits that I have ever heard. Keep it up Edd, you're show is a highlight of my viewing week!
Use a cement mixer, remove the barrel attach fuel tank where the barrel was , fill with your liquid and bolts washers etc, then switch on low speed leave for an hour and check , just an idea
As much as I love Edd's work overall, this was the best episode by far from the knowledgeable electricity showdown to the satisfying rust removal. Cheers
I love watching each episode bringing the range rover back to life. And also seeing how to bring components back from a disastrous state to workable piece.
After watching Edd shake that tank, I believe he can fix anything.
Omg this takes me back to the first few series of wheeler dealers, when it was quaint, honest and interesting. I remember watching the Austin mini episode in season 1, and then a few years later getting a classic mini as my first car and watching the episode over and again trying to copy bits of Ed’s restoration. That was something like 15 years ago…. So watching this is sort of like a trip down memory lane! Thanks Ed.
the way he presents the show is next level, so good
This guy is so awesome, I cannot believe that he would leave something this important so wide open to the risk of electrocution. I've always enjoyed the wisdom that he has had to share.
I can only recommend filling the tank with screws or stones at the beginning .. (approx. 1/3 of the volume ..) and then clamping the tank on a concrete mixer for some time. preferably dry so that you can vacuum out afterwards. I did that to my motocycle tank and it worked good. a chemical treatment afterwards would be good as well
I've done that as well. But instead of a mixer I jacked up the driven wheel of a car Strapped the tank to the wheel, and then left the car running for half an hour. Worked a treat.
That pile of rust from the vacuum would nag and worry me that so much metal is now gone from the tank. Would keep me awake at night. LOL
luckily, the amount of metal lost is 10% of that volume, so not quite so bad
Thank you very much Edd! Right now I am dealing with huge amounts of rust in my car so this video is totally gold and in exact time!!
Thanks Edd .... You have proven to me just how easy it will be, to order me a new tank. Well done...
“Grr, I’m gonna need a longer hose!”
Story of my life Edd 😂
For the effort it has taken Ed, I would have just bought a new tank! Then u know there is years of life in the new tank! 👍🔧
Yeah but it makes much better viewing watching him repair things instead of just bolting on new bits
@@Scorchzzz the cost of chemicals plus labour would easily exceed the £140 for a new tank it's a false economy also the state of tank would mean that potentially you'd have fuel pump lines injectors clogging up
But then we wouldn't get the content!
Good to see options and enjoyable to watch, but that’s 15 litres of chemical that needs disposing / recycling of !
Best option was to replace and then only a steel tank to recycle 👍
@@Scorchzzz ah, OK.
I thought Ed said that the first 5 litres had in essence fizzled out hence the additional 10 litres due to the size of the task.
👍
8:33 now that is cool, and it was very satisfying to watch. Great job 🙂
Really loved the electricity demonstration and explanation too.
Ed. You’re an amazing mechanic. I’ve learned a ton of great tips and tricks from watching you. I think the best was how to weld a finder and pull out the dents. I’m a welder myself and never thought of your idea of starting outside to the middle. Thank you
Been waiting for the Range Rover, glad to see it back!!
I'm pretty confident that John is not the only Range Rover owner to have a stash of vintage filth somewhere... ;-)
😄😄😄😄😄
I love this channel because Edd always explains the science of mechanics.Great entertainment !!!
It’s so good to see you back in action, Edd!🙏🌞🇬🇧🔧🧰🙏
Use broken glass from the windscreen,strap it to the inside of a cemet mixer and leave it for a few hours to do its work
Screws, nuts and Bolts, than strap it at the front of an concrete mixer. Enough power and endurance , keep ist Spinning for a while ♥️👍 greetings from Germany
Concrete mixer is the way most people would use to clean the inside of a petrol tank indeed!
Edd could teach Shop, Science, and Health class all at the same time, and every student would be enthralled.
I’m a bit late in commenting on your video, but I cleaned my motorcycle tank using very strong vinegar, hanging basket type chain and a cement mixer. Lot less Labour intense and unbelievable results the tank was like new!!
Who would have thought cement mixers were so useful!
Electrolysis is the way to go on a tank this rusty.
Where were your safety glasses, you naughty boy!
Thought the same myself when it smashed the glass! 😳
That's the best explanation of electricity I've ever heard. You made something that can sound very complicated very easy to understand 👍
Eddie, love the channel. All the very best of the TV stuff without the annoying other TV interludes. 👍👍👍🇬🇧🏴
Parabéns Eddy estávamos com saudades , moro no Brasil e sempre o acompanhei um abraço Deus te abençoe
Eu tbm, adorava o Joias Sobre Rodas.
Definetly one of my favorite Episodes. The level of DIY / fiddeling here is great! Great idea to use the cement mixer to clean that fuel tank!
#milwaukeechristmas
Enjoyable to watch, just as before when on TV, but now at leisure, easy to view... good job!
PLEASE NEVER STOP THESE VIDEOS!!! PLEASE DO MORE OF THESE!!!
Agradeço ao Edd por disponibilizar legenda em português 🇧🇷. Já ganhou meu Big Like.
Com toda certeza!!!
Respeitamos muito o trabalho dele!
I've had this issue my self, and after many hours of using different products I used a 1mm slitting disk to cut the tank in half, got inside with a wire wheel, treated with rust cure and welded back together took around 4 hours to complete and had much better results than relying on the chemical formula to do all the hard work
Hello Edd! Thanks for this video.
In the past 20 years I've been using Fertan to convert corrosion. After ~ 24 - 48 hours I remove the excess of the converter using water and a sponge. After the parts are dry I apply another layer of Fertan which I let impact for at least another 24 hours. Afterwards I remove the excess of the 2nd layer of the converter with water and a sponge. After drying I treat the spots with isopropyl alcohol to ensure a clean and free from grease surface. Next step primer and paint (+ additional protective coating if necessary e.g. if on underbody).
I also use rust converter regarding before mentioned strategy on parts that are not looking corroded, e.g. if I weld in some new piece of metal to chassis or underbody of a car. That's cause I've discovered when grinding down the welds that there's often small rust-particles on the grinding equipment, which are getting rubbed into the surface of the metal by the grinding equipment itself. Therefore I always use a rust-converter even on such spots before painting. Of course coating a weld with tin is cool and oldschool kinda treatment, sadly not always possible.
Best regards,
Michael aka. Mr.PastGlory
P.S.: Of course there's the option to buy phosphoric acid at the local pharmacy ... then You might get asked 'ARE YOU A TERRORIST?' (at least here in Germany) :-)
Seen a guy clean an old tank with a few handfuls of old ball bearings, about 10kg of shotblasting grit and strapping it to a cement mixer, left to run for a few hours.
Did the job, but adding in some of those chemicals would have certainly helped, I'll remember that one.
Top video Edd, nice one mate.
A couple bags of marbles, and a gallon of kerosene. Then shake the hell out of it in every direction and rinse repeat , repeat, repeat, has worked for me.
Yep, although I would use nuts & bolts instead.....
American gallon or UK gallon?
I did this with my old bmw but we couldn’t get all the nuts out but it did help move a lot of it
@Forever Computing
US = gallon
UK = liter
The US is the only country in the world (with the exception of some tiny nations) that uses the Imperial system.
Why?
Because it's 'Merica, we do everything backwards here just to spite the world. (Meant facetiously)
I've used nuts, bolts, only after removing all sending unit etc.
Закрепить бак в бетономешалке, накидать гвоздей и включить на полчаса.
не надо подсказывать, пусть помучается
Я не знаю бредовая ли мысль пришла мне в голову но: если располовинить бак (где точки сварки, рассверлить) и тупо почистить болгаркой с насадкой внутренности. Не?
думаю в конечном итоге он придет к чистке с помощью электролиза
А что за волшебная жижа, которая растворяет ржавчину полностью?
Никто не знает?
Ruslan Kurbanov лучше гаек м-6,штук 100-200 /из китайского набора/...
This came at exactly the right time for me Ed ! Really Really helpful ! Thanks a mill - gives me the confidence to tackle it myself !
It's such a pleasure to see you back on "TV" 😍 And THANK GOD with the same, relaxing and always interesting, atmosphere as in old days with this .. other guy .. I am sooo happy, for real 🙏🏼🙏🏼
When John is finished with his stash of vintage filth, can I borrow it please.
"Aha - I seem to have found John's stash of vintage filth" - excellent!
He found the less interesting stash.
@@JazzFunkNobby1964 Ha ha!
Removing rust from inside the tank, I have strapped the tank to a concrete blender, and then let it run for 30min in each position. I usually use gravel instead of expensive screws and washers ;-) Automatic, no special tools and all you need are two ratchet straps. Use the internal brace inside the concrete blender to affix it.
Definitely the first time I've watched a guy hoover out the inside of a fuel tank!
Looks like he picked Evaporust and Hammerite to do the job.
I had a part-time job as a teenager cleaning a radiator repair shop and they would soak old radiators in a hot tank to clean them. Assuming there are still those types of shops around, might they might be able to attack this job?
Nice VID, THX! I once saw a video with a rusty motorcycle tank on CZcams. The colleague had simply taken small stones from the hardware store, filled the tank with water and these stones. Then the tank was sealed all over and clamped onto the concrete mixer drum. After turning for a while, the inside of the tank was sparkling clean!
Well Mike eat your heart out, it's not not about how much profit you can make it's about the knowledge and work. Very informative presentation on electricity to enable a layman to understand it.
Great video as ever. The amount of rust in that tank was frightening! Had you considered electrolysis rather than chemical removal? I've seen excellent results on motorcycle fuel tanks with worse corrosion than the Range Rover's.
Какой же кайф. Спасибо за русские субтитры
Точно! вообще офигел! даже каналы миллионики такого не делаю, подход мать его!
и название на русском...
Как будто окунулся в старые добрые махинаторы
Adamın televizyona çıkmasına gerek yok burdada izlenir hala eskisi gibi tüm detayları anlatarak gidiyor.
That amp/volt explanation was pure genius.
I think you could learn a lesson from Mustie1 on how to deal with rusty fuel tanks.
what are your labour rates? i can't imagine that buying a new tank wouldn't be cheaper
My thoughts exactly what a waste of time and money and that tank will never be fully sorted
I think he was doing it for a friend or the channel but I'm Sure the new tank was like $200 bucks
@@michaelcolgan3182 yeah a new tank was £140 I'm sure he spend that in materials not including labour plus with the tank in that bad of a shape you always have the risk of clogging up fuel pump lines injectors just a false economy really
Think he just does it for content, nobody in their right mind would do this 😂
Yeah, got to be for content, 5ltrs of that rust remover is about £30 and he used 15ltrs of that alone lol.
Great explaination of electricity and its dangers (love the river analogy!). During my training in the RAF we learnt the mantra 'lethal Voltage is defined as 30VDC, 50VAC', always a good one to remember...
I gotta hand it to Edd, he really comes up with some creative ways to solve problems. Ngl
What you've done there Ed is polish a turd, a lot of effort and it's still a turd albeit a bit shinier. I admire your stamina though 😉😂 👍
Agreed! he did say at the beginning, that a brand new tank costs £140 .. now add up the price of all the materials he used to restore this "turd" , from paint to rust remover to screws, nuts and washers to elbow grease and what not .. I don't believe a single penny has been saved that day.
.. but then again, all in the name of science and content creation I guess 😏
Yeah, new tank time.
Yeah, but he helped his viewership. He created, that's what a good tuber will do.
They were my thoughts too. But then, it isn't always possible to find a replacement part, so this is all helpful info (and fun viewing of course).
@@fizmo100 That's precisely the point. Not every viewer abroad can easily access a new tank. But those who point out no money was saved (taking into account it's not become a new tank) are equally correct.
Wow that pile of rust looked like Ayres rock! Wouldn't all that chemical and labour almost cover the cost of a new tank?
Love your videos Ed, fantastic, keep them coming. Always a pleasure to watch you and pick up tips along the way.
hey Edd what a pleasure to see you again !!!!!!
Quite a few comments about buying a new tank... my opinion:
The cost of the products aren't relevant, that's purely for an investigation into what works best, you wouldn't buy all those products yourself.
Also, not everyone can spare the cost of a new tank, and to be fair the value of the vehicle as a whole, for what it's going to be used for, a resto will spiral out of control if you just simply replace everything on it.
Plus it's about showing what is possible if you're prepared to put a little work in to save something. We are a throwaway society now, sometimes fixing up stuff is fun eh?
15L of Evapo-Rust would have cost you £100!
@@col8981 You can do it with water, nuts and bolts, wrapped in a blanket, put in a cement mixer on the lowest setting for a motorcycle tank, or strapped to the front of the mixer for this unit of a tank. Flip it round a few times, does it in a couple of hours easy.
Electrolyses is also a good way to go, literally convert the rust and draw it onto a piece of sacrificial steel. You'd need a power source that is reliable though, which can be expensive.