When you do an Amy Sherman-Paladino or Aaron Sorkin script, you need actors that can recall large chunks of dialogue. I do think that it helps that Lauren Graham's normal speech pattern is not far off from Lorelai's.
ALSO-how on earth have they been together for 10 years and they hadn't discussed anything remotely close to marriage and children when they had talked about those things around a year after they got together the first time?? I wasn't planning on getting into it here but screw it-the revival felt like what the Palladinos wanted to do for season seven, which is fine! Except that it's not season seven-it's 10 years after season seven and so much of this revival doesn't make sense with the characters (and actors) being 10 years older. Especially Rory's arc-I feel like it works better if it had actually been season seven rather than where she is now, a decade later. However, Emily's arc (and part of Lorelai's arc) were really well done because the Palladinos were forced to adapt to the death of Edward Herrmann. Emily had some beautiful character development, and she really evolved in the face of adversity. Her arc felt like where her character could or would be 10 years after the end of the show, not what the Palladinos wanted to do with her in season seven. Anyways, if you read this far into my rant, thanks and here's a cookie
Totally agree with you on that. They both talked about having kids to other people and each other. I always thought the revival would have them married and pregnant. I do however see how them being their age would make that make less sense and maybe they didn't want to introduce a new character we hadn't met by having them have a child between then and now but it would have made more sense if they were struggling with fertility issues than having never talked about it. You're right that this dynamic seems very frozen in time. I would have hoped that the two of them would have gotten stronger and healthier as a couple. It seems kind of crazy that living together for a decade wouldn't change them.
I think Lorelai might have been a little gun shined to ask. She tried to elevate their relationship before and they ended up breaking up. I think for 10 years they played it safe. Both afraid to actually bring up something serious out of fear that they would break up again. Her father's death and Emily's actions have finally got lorelai to realize they needed to take the leap.
Luke's the sweetest guy when he is with the Gilmore girls... And this speech was the best, so heartmelting.... They've always been soulmates and had such an amazing chesmistry.... 😍❤❤❤
I think if the reboot had not abruptly ended the second wedding ceremony will have included Sookie as well as everyone else who was not in first private ceremony
I have many, many issues with the revival (except for the parts mainly influenced by Edward Herrmann's death-basically Emily's whole storyline and part of Lorelai's), but I really loved this scene and the wedding scene. Though I do wish Luke proposed this time to show a little more of his character's agency. I love this speech and how he's actively choosing Lorelai, but it also sounds like he'll change anything and everything about himself for her as part of that choice, and I don't believe that's what Lorelai would want. All that being said, this scene is one of the revival highlights for me, and Scott Patterson's performance is excellent here.
In an itv before the diffusion, Scott talked about a few scenes (included this one but with no saying what was in it) that he felt very powerfull as an actor to play. And he thought that people would be very mooved when seeing it. He was really right.
@@voldysnose170really? I thought that was so sweet given that it's the first song that Lorelei and luke ever danced to. That was essentially the very beginning of their relationship. And it's such a beautiful song ❤️
Can't luke propose for once (it's not about convention) but it just seems like he just goes along with what lorelai wants. I wish this revival was very different ....or non-existent
I think that was the point? It wasn't forced by circumstance on Lorelai, nor was it another person asking her, it was her asking and choosing someone for good.
They are so right for each other. I laughed and cried in this scene. I keep watching hi g reruns I wish they would run them as they happened. Kinda like a soap opera. Can someone please set me straight 😫
I really didn’t watched the revival nor enjoy it, all the characters turned different, the writers changed them so much it just didn’t felt right, it didn’t felt the same, and I know the original series was years ago but Lauren and Scott, as much as they’re really good actors, their chemistry was totally gone and the writers messed up their relationship so much, like they didn’t got married and had any kids for years nor discussed it, even though in the original series a year after getting together, they got engaged and talked about them wanting kids so it doesn’t make any sense, and I’m not mentioning about how Rory ended up, idk it was painful watching it
I'm glad I'm not the only who felt like their chemistry was gone in the revival. I didn't like it. I think 9 years was way to long to go with out anything.
I agree with almost everything. Scott and Lauren were excellent as was their chemistry. You know what I realized watching the show for the 10th time I believe? The writers got really lucky with the cast. They landed on extremely talented actors who took upon themselves their characters, hence the huge success of the show. The storyline is messed up and many things are unnecessary. The audience would much rather watch the peaceful life of Luke and Lorelai, watch them develop together and individually,instead they kept finding ways to disrupt whatever was going on. They even messed up the first kiss scene like come on!
there is one aspect of luke here annoyed me. Luke though a sage always kept up with modern stuffs, him being ignorant of surrogacy an old scientific advancement really doesn't do justice to his character
Agree, that whole thing with him not understanding what surrogacy is, completely ridiculous! Luke was not a stupid man. He always knew what was going on in the world, was street smart. He also was not weak or spineless... But in his scenes with Emily that is how he appears. Ridiculous! After putting up with her for 10 years he certainly would have learned to fight back against her pushiness, instead of following her like a puppy dog looking for another location. Writers did his character wrong ! He is still my favorite though 😍
She really enjoys his rants. Both times Lorelai proposed, it was after Luke went on one of his epic rants. The time things were awkward after she divorced Chris she was ecstatic because Luke ranted about her inability to choose a new car to buy.
What I saw was an amalgamation of all the years spent building these two up. Even though I watched this show over the course of several months, it’s gonna be hard to move on. It was beautiful, at least in my opinion.
June 3 was also Rory’s boat theft court date. I rewatched those clips and the court hearing was scheduled for June 3. I guess Lorelei forgot about that when she planned the wedding.
Demoraron demasiado, pero acá se demuestran el amor que se tenían,y quién sabe talvez la historia pueda decir, que apesar de sus edades,si llegaron a tener un hijo.
Why? It shows how assuming is never good and makes sense for all the build up stress he was having. That was him speaking what he's been thinking for days a 1000 mph. The fact that he would do anything for her to help her feel better is sweet and thankfully he's in a relationship where she didn't want that. She just wanted him just the way he is. I had this goal and I've found my luke where both would do anything for the other person to help them be happy but we love each other just the way we are. She had no desire to change him which is why it is so cute! All he did was confirm her assumption that they should be married because he will always be there for her and she wants to be there always for him.
@@anniewallace3601 Hm, I get your point but listen to what he's saying: it's not about him being there for her, it's about him being so dependent that he will do anything just to keep her by his side. "I franchise my diner if that's who you want me to be." - something that Luke NEVER wanted nor wants now. He's only saying this because he's afraid of losing her. Let me get this straight, it's amazing that they want to make each other happy. However, you shouldn't compromise who you are just to keep someone by your side. And at least how it's shown in the revival, Luke has given up A LOT just to satisfy Lorelai while she's kind of still in the same place where she was. She didn't really change her life for him except the extension they got in her house which was during the original series. But that's about it
@@bundavica161 I agree with this in a way. Lorelai doesn't listen. I honestly think Luke can be more communicative about important things than she is, but she doesn't listen. She and Emily do the same thing. He says he doesn't want something and she goes "Yes you do. " and starts moving. He gives in a lot because most things she harps on don't matter to him as much as being with her. The issue is when he does put his foot down on something she acts like a spoiled child cause she's used to getting her way, but no one ever calls her on it. Ever.
@@lauriecarson6483 Not really. Taking time to wrap your head around things isn't a crime. And Lorelai is the Queen of compartmentalization. But frankly even if he did tell her and followed it up with "I need time to get this sorted out before I bring her around here to meet you." She would still have been hurt and still would have made it a big deal. She still would have not been honest about how she felt, she still would have pretended everything was ok and she still was gonna hit him with that ultimatum out of the blue. Lorelai is used to putting people on the back burner. She's not used to being put there by others, even if there's a good or understandable reason.
I hated everything about this revival and this scene is one of the reasons. Throughout the whole show, Luke always gave into whatever Lorelai wanted and thought the world of her to the point where he seemed to have no self-respect. Obviously she wasn’t leaving him in this scene, but the fact that he begged her to stay annoys me. I’m all for being vulnerable and for trying to work things out but I just wish he’d stand up to her more. He’s too insecure and that ruined the relationship in my opinion.
The writing is really bad here, so contrive, and awful camera work. You can almost see how great it would have been if done properly but still..it sounds and look so fake
Well there wasn’t much else in the revival to like. The revival was not very good. Scott also said that if he had known how the script was going to go and the direction his character was heading he may not have done it. He was not happy that Luke did not do the proposing this time to that they didn’t have the wedding that fans had been waiting for.
This whole revival plot was shit, writers ruined the characters essence, the series heart & everything seemed forced, messy & the storyline didnt make sense at all. This is the exact reason why Friends writers didnt want to make a revival bc they knew exactly where to end in order to not ruin the project. And here we see, GG was completely torn down bc the writers/ producers didnt make the best choices. The only beautiful development was Emilys story, she became soft, vulnerable & after Richards death it was beautiful how she embraced life. 🫠🫠🫠
Luke and Paul Anka has one of those "dad and the dog he didn't want" relationships lmao
I think Paul Anka was trying to tell Luke Lorelai was there❤❤❤
Luke's speech really sums up his entire character 😭💕
They figured it out tho...and got married finally
I love how Luke makes Paul Anka’s steak the way he likes. He tries to not fall for how he looks at him but he does
Luke still not understanding how surrogacy works is one of the best running gags
Do any guy know how surrogacy works.
😂😂😂
I do not agree. It made him see stupid
He is smarter then that
😂😂😂
My God she had so many lines to remember ..she has a great memory
When you do an Amy Sherman-Paladino or Aaron Sorkin script, you need actors that can recall large chunks of dialogue. I do think that it helps that Lauren Graham's normal speech pattern is not far off from Lorelai's.
So did Scott. The writer was extremely lucky with the cast. Amazing actors whose performances somehow overshadowed the poor storyline.
@@n_2619especially AYITL
Luke and Paul Anka are an underrated duo 😍
Ikr! And at the beginning Luke didn’t like Paul Anka!😅😂
He hugged her like the first time they got engaged. 🥺🥺😭😭
Beautiful
this scene just makes you realize how amazing actors these two really are. Scott and Lauren, wow.
ALSO-how on earth have they been together for 10 years and they hadn't discussed anything remotely close to marriage and children when they had talked about those things around a year after they got together the first time??
I wasn't planning on getting into it here but screw it-the revival felt like what the Palladinos wanted to do for season seven, which is fine! Except that it's not season seven-it's 10 years after season seven and so much of this revival doesn't make sense with the characters (and actors) being 10 years older. Especially Rory's arc-I feel like it works better if it had actually been season seven rather than where she is now, a decade later.
However, Emily's arc (and part of Lorelai's arc) were really well done because the Palladinos were forced to adapt to the death of Edward Herrmann. Emily had some beautiful character development, and she really evolved in the face of adversity. Her arc felt like where her character could or would be 10 years after the end of the show, not what the Palladinos wanted to do with her in season seven.
Anyways, if you read this far into my rant, thanks and here's a cookie
Because ASP clearly wrote all of this a decade ago for a season 8. It's moronic that she didn't change mich
They did discuss marriage and children together.
Totally agree with you on that. They both talked about having kids to other people and each other. I always thought the revival would have them married and pregnant. I do however see how them being their age would make that make less sense and maybe they didn't want to introduce a new character we hadn't met by having them have a child between then and now but it would have made more sense if they were struggling with fertility issues than having never talked about it. You're right that this dynamic seems very frozen in time. I would have hoped that the two of them would have gotten stronger and healthier as a couple. It seems kind of crazy that living together for a decade wouldn't change them.
I wished they had a kid. Doesn't matter if it would have been a biological or a adopted. I think they would had needed a kid. A little boy maybe.🤔
I think Lorelai might have been a little gun shined to ask. She tried to elevate their relationship before and they ended up breaking up. I think for 10 years they played it safe. Both afraid to actually bring up something serious out of fear that they would break up again. Her father's death and Emily's actions have finally got lorelai to realize they needed to take the leap.
GOD DAMNIT LORELAI. chills. Literal chills
Luke's the sweetest guy when he is with the Gilmore girls... And this speech was the best, so heartmelting.... They've always been soulmates and had such an amazing chesmistry.... 😍❤❤❤
Lukw's speech is so cathartic. Also the fact that Sookie isn't at the wedding will never not hurt me
I think if the reboot had not abruptly ended the second wedding ceremony will have included Sookie as well as everyone else who was not in first private ceremony
When Lorelai said ‘That’s the reaction I was looking for’ I just started bursting into laughter! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
She said "That was not the reaction i was looking for", if dont make a mistake.
@@nilivier does it really matter how Lorelai said it. It still was funny.
🤣🤣🤣
I have many, many issues with the revival (except for the parts mainly influenced by Edward Herrmann's death-basically Emily's whole storyline and part of Lorelai's), but I really loved this scene and the wedding scene. Though I do wish Luke proposed this time to show a little more of his character's agency. I love this speech and how he's actively choosing Lorelai, but it also sounds like he'll change anything and everything about himself for her as part of that choice, and I don't believe that's what Lorelai would want.
All that being said, this scene is one of the revival highlights for me, and Scott Patterson's performance is excellent here.
In an itv before the diffusion, Scott talked about a few scenes (included this one but with no saying what was in it) that he felt very powerfull as an actor to play. And he thought that people would be very mooved when seeing it. He was really right.
Yes❤
Other than the wedding this was the best part of the revival
I just hated that they used Liz and TJ's wedding song :(
@@voldysnose170really? I thought that was so sweet given that it's the first song that Lorelei and luke ever danced to. That was essentially the very beginning of their relationship. And it's such a beautiful song ❤️
This was like their entire relationship. But I still love and want them to be together.
Luke's is the best guy ever.
Can't luke propose for once (it's not about convention) but it just seems like he just goes along with what lorelai wants. I wish this revival was very different ....or non-existent
Atleast this time we saw him put the ring on her finger unlike the first time when a ring just appeared.
I think that was the point? It wasn't forced by circumstance on Lorelai, nor was it another person asking her, it was her asking and choosing someone for good.
I’m happy with it love the whole scene
Exactly I agree.
Luke's speech was the best part of AYITL
I finished this a few months ago and I still think about this scene at least once a week
Luke Always cares for Lorelai 😌💓💓💓💓💓💓☕☕☕☕🧢
They are so right for each other. I laughed and cried in this scene. I keep watching hi g reruns I wish they would run them as they happened. Kinda like a soap opera. Can someone please set me straight 😫
ABC family used to run them everyday in order. I dont know if they still do since I quit cable. That's how I got into them.
This is why I’ll never settle for less
I really didn’t watched the revival nor enjoy it, all the characters turned different, the writers changed them so much it just didn’t felt right, it didn’t felt the same, and I know the original series was years ago but Lauren and Scott, as much as they’re really good actors, their chemistry was totally gone and the writers messed up their relationship so much, like they didn’t got married and had any kids for years nor discussed it, even though in the original series a year after getting together, they got engaged and talked about them wanting kids so it doesn’t make any sense, and I’m not mentioning about how Rory ended up, idk it was painful watching it
I'm glad I'm not the only who felt like their chemistry was gone in the revival. I didn't like it. I think 9 years was way to long to go with out anything.
Lauren and Scott?
Ils se détestent
I agree with almost everything. Scott and Lauren were excellent as was their chemistry. You know what I realized watching the show for the 10th time I believe? The writers got really lucky with the cast. They landed on extremely talented actors who took upon themselves their characters, hence the huge success of the show. The storyline is messed up and many things are unnecessary. The audience would much rather watch the peaceful life of Luke and Lorelai, watch them develop together and individually,instead they kept finding ways to disrupt whatever was going on. They even messed up the first kiss scene like come on!
there is one aspect of luke here annoyed me. Luke though a sage always kept up with modern stuffs, him being ignorant of surrogacy an old scientific advancement really doesn't do justice to his character
Agree, that whole thing with him not understanding what surrogacy is, completely ridiculous! Luke was not a stupid man. He always knew what was going on in the world, was street smart. He also was not weak or spineless... But in his scenes with Emily that is how he appears. Ridiculous! After putting up with her for 10 years he certainly would have learned to fight back against her pushiness, instead of following her like a puppy dog looking for another location. Writers did his character wrong ! He is still my favorite though 😍
@@lisamilcarsky7931 he was actually more science savvy than most realised. He was always ahead of his times with nutrition etc
Do guys really know how surrogacy workers. My nephew didn't know at first until his wife told him and she does this all the time.
@@Oddbisket that doesmt mean anything
She really enjoys his rants. Both times Lorelai proposed, it was after Luke went on one of his epic rants. The time things were awkward after she divorced Chris she was ecstatic because Luke ranted about her inability to choose a new car to buy.
Luke's speech . 😍 , chef kiss,
What I saw was an amalgamation of all the years spent building these two up. Even though I watched this show over the course of several months, it’s gonna be hard to move on. It was beautiful, at least in my opinion.
Lorelai needed to propose to this dude twice. Hes lucky she's so sure of herself.
He loves her so much 😊 she loves him so much too ❤️
As a doggie Mom, my mind was distracted on waning the doggie to get his food
I love love love this awesome show
Today is June 3rd. Their initial wedding date. Who knows? This date stook with me. Its not about the date, its about the relationship.
June 3 was also Rory’s boat theft court date. I rewatched those clips and the court hearing was scheduled for June 3. I guess Lorelei forgot about that when she planned the wedding.
My favorite couple!! 🥰🥰🥰
I just love this scene ❤️
The only scene in the revival I liked other than Lorelai's speech to Emily about her dad.
Demoraron demasiado, pero acá se demuestran el amor que se tenían,y quién sabe talvez la historia pueda decir, que apesar de sus edades,si llegaron a tener un hijo.
They didnt take too long.
I believe in a former life I was coffee 😂
I always cry at Luke's words
The wedding luke and lorolai finally ❤
I want a luke so bad ❤️❤️❤️
@Guy Ledouche I hope he reveals himself. Soon
@Guy Ledouche thankyou. That's given me something to think about.
I hated a lot of things about the revival, but this wasn’t one of them. ❤
"Or go to that nutty therapist of yours". 😐🤣
Something is wrong with this revival. The way they speak isn’t fast enough and it seems forced. It’s not natural like the original series
I can’t get over the fact that Paul Anker aka Sparky is the same dog that played him ten years ago. 🥲
PAUL ANKA 💕💕💕💕
Why is he never the one to ask?
I KNOW IT REALLY FRUSTRATES ME
Cause it wasn't eitrn like that
It’s about fucking time!
Wow... 10 years and zero progress... This series sums up all the relationships with zero communication. They are tiring me, it's not funny anymore.
Its happens alot.
Well said. No progression and the same immaturity/lying/miscommunication/hiding things etc. I didn’t enjoy the revival at all
He didn’t give Paul Anka his steak
I love it but I just don’t think they would waited that long to marry or have another kid … they both wanted that in original show
I just want a show with just Luke and lorelai. Lol
That poor man. Lorelei has put poor Luke thru HELL. 30 YEARS OF IT.
well no!
Are all those exposed knife blades stressing anyone else out?
luke is amazing
😂😂 you tell anybody about this we're getting a cat haha
Gosh, I didn’t watch the revival, but I was just assuming a decade later they would have already been married?? 🤔
Please 🙏 is this episode gojng to be run on tv or do we have to buy it. 🙏 let me know
You have to subscribe to Netflix
Its on dvd
frustrating scene to watch as luke interrupts and rambles on. I wish they could have done this scene differently
Scott said this was and is his favorite scene in the revival.
Then it wouldn't be Like without his rants. I loved it
This more like said through the the whole show
luke 💞💞💞💞
Yes luke ❤
The best character- Paul Anka lol
Finally
It's honestly concerning that so many are commenting that they want a partner like Luke and think this scene is cute
Why? It shows how assuming is never good and makes sense for all the build up stress he was having. That was him speaking what he's been thinking for days a 1000 mph. The fact that he would do anything for her to help her feel better is sweet and thankfully he's in a relationship where she didn't want that. She just wanted him just the way he is. I had this goal and I've found my luke where both would do anything for the other person to help them be happy but we love each other just the way we are. She had no desire to change him which is why it is so cute! All he did was confirm her assumption that they should be married because he will always be there for her and she wants to be there always for him.
@@anniewallace3601 Hm, I get your point but listen to what he's saying: it's not about him being there for her, it's about him being so dependent that he will do anything just to keep her by his side. "I franchise my diner if that's who you want me to be." - something that Luke NEVER wanted nor wants now. He's only saying this because he's afraid of losing her. Let me get this straight, it's amazing that they want to make each other happy. However, you shouldn't compromise who you are just to keep someone by your side. And at least how it's shown in the revival, Luke has given up A LOT just to satisfy Lorelai while she's kind of still in the same place where she was. She didn't really change her life for him except the extension they got in her house which was during the original series. But that's about it
@@bundavica161 I agree with this in a way. Lorelai doesn't listen. I honestly think Luke can be more communicative about important things than she is, but she doesn't listen. She and Emily do the same thing. He says he doesn't want something and she goes "Yes you do. " and starts moving. He gives in a lot because most things she harps on don't matter to him as much as being with her. The issue is when he does put his foot down on something she acts like a spoiled child cause she's used to getting her way, but no one ever calls her on it. Ever.
@@AoibheannStateira if that was true he would have told Lorelai about April long tine ago but he didn't he waitsd two months to tell her.
@@lauriecarson6483 Not really. Taking time to wrap your head around things isn't a crime. And Lorelai is the Queen of compartmentalization. But frankly even if he did tell her and followed it up with "I need time to get this sorted out before I bring her around here to meet you." She would still have been hurt and still would have made it a big deal. She still would have not been honest about how she felt, she still would have pretended everything was ok and she still was gonna hit him with that ultimatum out of the blue. Lorelai is used to putting people on the back burner. She's not used to being put there by others, even if there's a good or understandable reason.
Please don't take this amazing show off tv. ....please don't.
]love this show so much.
Please don't take this unusual amazing show off the air. There's no other show like it. Anywhere
I hated everything about this revival and this scene is one of the reasons. Throughout the whole show, Luke always gave into whatever Lorelai wanted and thought the world of her to the point where he seemed to have no self-respect. Obviously she wasn’t leaving him in this scene, but the fact that he begged her to stay annoys me. I’m all for being vulnerable and for trying to work things out but I just wish he’d stand up to her more. He’s too insecure and that ruined the relationship in my opinion.
why does loreali's face look different in the revival than before?
What episode is this
Men she so much better then women aaah
😭😭😭😭
Poggers
True soulmates always be there I love you very much sweetheart 😘 💋 goodlooking 🧁🧁😍💯 really together forever 💕 I believe perfect timing 💕💕💕🧁🧁😍😘😘😜💯
luke is what i wantt in a man
Luke sounded desperate. Not love
The writing is really bad here, so contrive, and awful camera work.
You can almost see how great it would have been if done properly but still..it sounds and look so fake
Scott said this was and is his favorite scene in the revival.
Well there wasn’t much else in the revival to like. The revival was not very good. Scott also said that if he had known how the script was going to go and the direction his character was heading he may not have done it. He was not happy that Luke did not do the proposing this time to that they didn’t have the wedding that fans had been waiting for.
Dreadful you can never go back. They lost the mojo. Too much time gone by. Scott deserved a better plot and script. Very bad writing
So Lorelai wanted to be in an open couple?
No they talked about having a baby and since they’re too old, they looked into surrogacy. Luke didn’t know what that meant
@@cce-km8pf Lol, Luke was not stupid in the original show
No
Awe, goodness they look good but they’ve aged pretty hard 🤭
Be Careful Luke, she might go hook up with Chris if she doesn’t get what she wants
This whole revival plot was shit, writers ruined the characters essence, the series heart & everything seemed forced, messy & the storyline didnt make sense at all. This is the exact reason why Friends writers didnt want to make a revival bc they knew exactly where to end in order to not ruin the project. And here we see, GG was completely torn down bc the writers/ producers didnt make the best choices. The only beautiful development was Emilys story, she became soft, vulnerable & after Richards death it was beautiful how she embraced life. 🫠🫠🫠