Everything We LOVE (and HATE!) About the Honda Pioneer!
Vložit
- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- We spent the fall with the 2022 Honda Pioneer 1000-5 Trail Edition. There was plenty to love about the innovative rig, but plenty of letdowns along the way. Here are five things we loved, and five things we didn’t, over our time with the rig!
Favorite Gear: Code 'octane' for 10% off! cardosystems.rfrl.co/z8qy5
Check out the story here: www.utvdriver.com/reviews/wat...
Check out the full feature at: www.utvdriver.com/story/revie...
For more stories, reviews, and first-looks check out www.utvdriver.com/
Check out our Shootout Videos:
• Ford RAPTOR VS UTV: Ar...
Check out other UTV Reviews:
• Everything We LOVE (an...
RTI Tests we Run:
• How HARD Can the Kawas...
Want to see even more shenanigans from the UTV Driver team? Give us a like and follow:
Facebook: / utvdriver
Instagram: / utvdriverma. .
Twitter: / utvdriver - Auta a dopravní prostředky
1.. The nets can roll up or can be taken out which is what most people do.
2.. They can get a little warm sometimes inside when it's hot outside nd your not moving, but who does that/
3.. What do you expect for a 5 seater that is the same size of a standard 3 seater as far as room goes. Well worth the trade off some way to long SxS that you can't even turn around within one city block or get hung up on some rock because it's so long.
4.. The hitch??
5.. No belts means no whiplash when taking off, no belt getting wet and slipping or braking out in the middle of nowhere.
6 .. They have the best resale and are the lowest cost to own and the most reliable. Seen one with 75k miles. Ride red!!
I think he has valid points, especially the safety chain hitch.
'20 Pioneer 1000-5 here. No UTV rolls off the line in perfect configuration to suit all. There are mods for most all of these complaints. Make it your own!
Helpful tip: The nets have a little bungee hook that you can use when you roll the net back, and hook it in a stowed position.
Those nets are incredible when driving through brush and branches insomuch that they keep you from getting slapped in the face by them. Also, I took a roll off a trail in Arizona and those nets kept us from getting stabbed by some big branches.
The DCT does take some getting used to with driving technique.
Thanks for the video.
Thanks Richard. Picking up my 23 1000-5 trail Tuesday and can’t wait! I’ve been on something red since I was a kid, and haven’t changed a bit! The bulletproof Honda engineering ALWAYS outweighs little quirks that aggravate the “overly sensitive “ out there. I’ve literally put thousands of hours on various Honda bikes an ATVs and they are unbeatable. Currently own an 06 foreman 500, an 02 xr650r and final piece in the stable gets its new home Tuesday! Can’t wait to put it to work on our home place as well as get the girls out on the awesome Kentucky trails! Ride red!!
As far as the rear seats go, there is a guy (Rad Customs LLC) who manufactures seat brackets that fit over the existing ones. You source your own seat bottoms and bolt them to the seat brackets. We invested in them and the rear seats are now raised (almost like stadium seating - we sourced RZR seat bottoms) and work amazingly well. They are super easy to install and remove. No worries about knees up under your chin! :) Well worth the investment!
I'm torn on the 1000-3 vs. 1000-5. I don't expect 4 to 5 people but it's a nice option if that once in a year opportunity comes up. I'm surprised that no one else dislikes the rear roll cage, that looks horrible. The 1000-3 look is perfect.
How big are your recovery straps that you can’t fit them behind the rear seats? Plenty of room for straps and water there.
I really wish more side-by-side manufacturers made long bed versions like the Can-Am defender Pro, which comes with a 6 foot bed and a single cab. If Honda made one of those, I’d be throwing my money at them years ago.
Once I seen the fuss about the netting “liability Insurance”. which are removable I was suspect about the review. Listening to this review I think it lacked seat time and familiarity with the feature of the Trail Edition Pioneer 1000-5. Secondly what are they comparing it with in the same class of SxS? OK the netting is removable “shocking”. If you want a true four seater for adults this is likely not that machine ie look at the Talon. This trail edition has FOX adjustable suspension, paddle shifting and rock solid electronic power steering which was not even discussed. The 2022 does not have the heat issues of the past pioneers, it is really only noticeable when crossing water, and it creates steam. I do agree the fold down seats get dirty, yep and they are in the bed! No surprise there. Bottom line this review is not up to snuff. Also I was impressed with the i4WD which I was not expecting it performs really good over all. As one other comment mentioned the Throttle MAX is a must for just about every SxS, really allow a tame control of the throttle. Do your home work and look at other review to determine if this is the machine for you!
Thanks your information was better than his!
Thanks for your feedback Richard. I had heard the heat issue was address but according to him it’s still a problem. Maybe it is fixed. I should be picking up my ‘23 model and hoping it’s all I am expecting. Plus, his negative comments about the full gear drivetrain is ridiculous. Thanks for the info.
Agree. It's clear that several of the 'dislikes' are utterly silly when you consider who and why you buy a 1000-5 over either a 3 seater OR a purpose designer 4 seat SXS. We would never plan a trip for 4 adults in a 1000-5. It's more of a spur of the moment, need a couple seats for a quick run. Or for kids. Show me any purpose built 5 seater that provides outstanding comfort for 4+ adults that's under 118" AND can be used as a full-on dump bed/utility vehicle. The reviewer clearly does not/did not understand the primary potential customers that will want a 1000-5.
2022 saw major improvements on the Pioneer 1000.
77 HP.
Lower gears in high range.
Lower reverse gears.
Much stronger frame and front a arms.
Way stronger power steering.
Better cooling.
2500 lb tow rating with a 2" receiver.
Legendary Honda durability.
Aren't all side by sides really though going to create Heat?
So quick answer is yes. Honda's is really toasty. You can put heat shielding under the seat to help. That's my number one complaint. The netting can be moved out of the way. The room in back isn't bad. You gets seats and a dump bed. So it's not the Taj Mahal.
@@Nuzzyfippleswe’ve had a pioneer for 7 years and have never had this issue. Stop hitting the rev limiter in park and driving around town in low.
I enjoy that the shortcomings were so few that this dude spent 5 minutes reaching as hard as he could.
Good review
Where can you find one with a roof for $21,500 new? They want considerably more at my local dealer.
I've never heard anybody say they want slop or slack in a drivetrain wow
Made in USA and does 65+MPH
The con list was a bit silly. Small back seats because it has an aewsome flip down design. Then you complain about it being dirty in the back when you decide to use the aewsome design and turn it into a 2 seater. The back cargo area seems plenty large for recovery straps even with gate up. How many straps are you taking...plus enough room for water bottles etc. Again, seemed like a silly con list.
I had many of the same issues and reservations as you so. I had originally wanted the 5 seater even though I didn’t need it for those what if moments and I was ever in a situation that more people wanted to go. After seeing not only how cramped those seats are and all the crap that gets through the bed and to the seats when they are down, I decided I’d buy a 3 seater. I’d also recommend the throttle max to anybody who owns a 1000 pioneer. It really tames the touchy throttle.
I think a bed mat would solve the bed debris. It's another thing to remove if you want the rear seats but I think it's worth the $ to have that option.
@@raymonddurkin it helps but it doesn’t stop everything. Have friends that have the 5 seater and bought the Honda bed mat and the seats stay filthy. If I ever decide I need more seating I will go with the 1000x6. Bed plus the extra seating. Not even room for a cooler in 5x with seats deployed
@@kingrider751000-6 is a school bus that gets stuck in anything. Just buy a bed extender.
1000-6: Sure, of you don't mind driving a boat on the trail. ~152" vs 117" is a MONSTER of a difference. That's why the 1000-6 is really meant for the farm or ranch, not the trail.
@@bobbybarnes1652 it’s meant for the exact same thing the 3 and 5 seater were made for. Longer the wheelbase sure the harder turning sharp will be but oh well.
I love the fact that you're being super critical of the short comings. I believe in honest opinions and opinions are always changing base dupon user and situations. There is NO perfect SxS for everyone. That vehicle just cant be made. You cant please everyone. But hitch chains? How far are you pulling a large load on a trailer wirh a SxS that that should be a concern?
Hitch chains are 100% necessary every time you hook up.
A hitch can fail any time and the end result of an out of control trailer can be baaad.
They have a bed extender.
If he had to walk, he'd love EVERYTHING about it.
It’s your fault if you forget the hitch pin
Twitchy throttle....he must have never driven a polaris before.
I kind of feel you are complaining about something that is known going into when you purchased it. The combo back seat and bed, you known. I’m the same size, I didn’t not find it cramped or too hard to get in the back. No storage when rear seats are in use. You known.
I love how as soon as he dropped the tailgate to complain about the storage, I envisioned my cooler there secured with a ratchet strap.
You get a much shorter wheelbase with this setup which translates to more fun.
Sure comes off like you wish you hadn't bought it!
Air Conditioning?
It's not intended to be used for glamping.
If you want a sxs with ac get a pickup
@@Bigbossman12624yes. Buy the right machine for the right job.
The biggest downside to Honda is the cab. We live in a province that is majority winter. Winter at -20 and colder. The full cab sucks and near impossible to heat.
I have the enclosed cab on mine. When out ice fishing the heat off the engine is usually enough to keep it warm if I am going to be sitting for long periods I will run a small propane heater.
First, this isn't intended to be a Northstar or Defender. Beyond that, I installer an Ice Crusher heater and enclosed the cab. It's not Jeep warm, but it's a huge improvement.
Manually shift would solve the transmission issues
It has a manual shift mode with paddle shifters that are fantastic! Also the sport mode is quit sporty.
Also if you have one foot on the brake pedal you eliminate lurch and can control the "jerkyness".
Throttle Maxx. Problem solved.
nothing smooth about this machine. I have one and its the worst thing ive ever drove and the bed makes a ton of noise.
Buy $100 bed mat for the rear to keep debris from going into the footwells
Can tell you riding in the back of my 2023 1000-5 was awful
I like your videos but that was a horrible “review” of sone items.
Could not agree more.
100 agree also still waiting for polaris/can am ad about the slop in the drive train
Why buy it if you knew all this abt the ride?????? Fyi, those warn winches have plastic planetary gears, theyll break...dont rely on that brand winch theyre putting on it.......theyre putting the cheapest made atv winch on those hi dolla rigs.....you couldve made them takenitnoff at purchase day, but ya stuck with it now
Take the net off..duh every sxs has heat issues mant others are much worse...man you just bought a really subpar machine like a polaris Yamaha or canam..lol
This review hurts my head, dude claims to be an American male but talks about the machine like it is a woman giving a review and complaining about her high heels getting dirty.
The complaints should be in regards to areas that don’t have more than 1 feature or that are common to all machines, example: complaining about folding seats, this is a multi-feature so you can’t complain about “having seats” and then complain about “not enough bed space”, you can only pick one feature to complain about in a multi-feature option my dude.
How does a utility vehicle cost over $20 grand?? Just buy a used truck.
If you don't have a farm and land to attend to every day just say that 😂