@@floridafan561 You mean a "well respected scientist" such as Neil Ferguson, who has been fantastically wrong on every meaningful prediction ever, including well before the present situation, was caught disregarding his own scaremongering and is still pretended to be a credible expert unlike all the ones who made more realistic predictions from the start? Like all the "credible experts" who wrote the specific, supposedly "scientific" basis for the validation of the WHO's global PCR test regime while having several undisclosed conflicts of interest and with two of the paper's authors actually on the editorial board of the journal which, incidentally, published it after an alleged peer-review lasting one day? I guess you are one of those people who think the government-sanctioned experts paraded around on TV actually constitutes any consensus - let alone a scientifically based one - while the entire context of the debate is _completely politicized_ so that the personal consequences of every expert's opinion, in terms of respect, recognition, social standing and professional opportunities, are based not on the quality of their work but on its political serviceability. If this were really the new plague, consider how it would be that the global body of serological studies has indicated a mortality rate no higher than your normal flu, as explicitly (if quietly) admitted to by the WHO months ago, how excess mortality outside of lockdowns is literally not a thing anywhere in the world, and how flu would have been eliminated worldwide because everybody is wearing their masks while the rona is running rampant because nobody is wearing a mask. Or just go back into your ignorant, authoritarian bubble where everyone who disagrees with the government position is a dangerous quasi-terrorist, regardless of their arguments and no matter how well-qualified an expert they may be, and if you just call all of them _"cOnSpIrAcY tHeOrIsT!!!!1"_ hard enough you will automatically be right without ever having to think anything other than what the TV tells you to.
Mike doesn't believe that Muhammad Ali didn't believe he was the scariest man to step in any ring they all believed The 'Gavlestion' Giant Jack Johnson was the scariest man.
Badri hari, mark hunt circa 2004, Jerome le banner, Tyrone spong, semmy schilt. Would any of them win? No probably not but all of em were crazy enough to try.
@Mosaab early k1 was some of THE MOST elite striking in history. Watching Ernesto Hoost, Ray Sefo and Peter Aerts. Kids nowadays will never understand the pure talent.
What people forget about Tyson was his ability to avoid punches. Mike had a metronome-like movement, constantly ducking and weaving, anticipating the punches, moving effortlessly out of the way, and incorporating that defensive movement in his counter-attack, usually a rising left hook or uppercut. It was truly a thing of beauty to watch.
It was his style Cus taught him I can’t remember the name of the style it’s like looksie Lou or something, where you slide in n out of punches, when you throw a punch you also weave out as if you were the one getting punched at
I used to be a kickboxer back in the 80s. Problem is we have to train with our legs as well as hands, neither perfecting one or another. A boxer just trains with his hands but he perfects it. Tyson would only need to deflect a kick or two and then move in for the kill. He was an absolute beast in close quarter fighting. Argument settled.
Late eighties, early 90's for me. He had great footwork, was strong as an ox with a mule kick punch from how many angles?? Haha how many signature punches did he have? Throwing hard fast kicks can leave you exposed to that. Yeah nah not for me thanks.
I don’t agree, Muay thai fighters are the best for kicking. Tell me any other style better for leg crushing low kick and tell me how a boxer can close the distance if a 100kg 2m guy throw low kick on his front leg joint ten times in a round. The only way a boxer can win is if he train in kickboxing for 1 or 2 year before a serious fight.
@@KirtianMSure pal, whatever you gotta tell yourself to make yourself feel better about hitting like a girl. In the real world, boxers win every time. I've been winning since day 1 in Muay Thai--and STILL
At 50 years old, Tyson is still smacking prime UFC fighters in training. I dont think people here understand how fast and powerful Tyson was and still is. Tyson had both wrestling and ground training. The idea of Tyson doing ground and pound should be beyond terrifying
he's athletically built for combat sport. he became a boxer because that's what was big at the time and today UFC is a bigger stage than boxing. Mike doing mma is basically a death sentence for anyone in the other side of the octagon 😂. he wouldn't even need to master kicking so much. he'd knock someone out with his punches just like he always did, and in ufc you can keep hitting when your opponents on the ground, mike doing hammer punches or wrestling would be too dangerous
My understanding is that Tyson had a phenomenal talent and was a student of boxing. If you'd give him time to prepare for another style, or if had taken up MMA instead of boxing, his combination of defensive speed, power abd accuracy could translate very well to other arts
Well after he was around heavys tended to go taller. 6' 7" boxers with solid jab would make his night pretty hard. But this kick boxing stuff I don't buy. If there were anyone on the planet that had a chance to stand up to him you would have heard about him. Kind of like pitching prospects, if you can pitch you get notice no matter where you are pitching.
@@KentonJoseph 💯 u are exactly right!! I was being sarcastic bout Tyson being unstoppable. Anyway, ur right bout mtfs now adays it's all bout money and who can fill a stadium etc. There is so much incredible talent out there but we'll never see it plus it's who can promote and how popular the athlete is and of course $$$!!!!
@Im Your Huckleberry Ali did have a lightening fast jab. And Mike had a lighting fast gazelle punch. One stings, the other knocks you flat on your ass.
Tyson in his prime would have intimidated the hell out of the UFC heavyweight champs of today and they would be very concerned as they saw him coming towards them wearing only 4 ounce gloves.
Exactly cuz with those 4oz gloves, he could put you unconscious in the blink of an eye. Any MMA guy would have had to wrestle for dear life against a prime Tyson
@@The_Original_Hybrid I mean yh kicks could work, but it's still risky business because your striking with him. Don't forget how fast he could close distance. You throw a kick at the wrong time while he darts in with a blow and it'll be trouble. Grappling him would be much safer choice.
@Hraub777 he was not that big actually. The most epic super striking talents get ragdolled if their opponents can grapple. Look at the Rodtang Vs Demetrius Johnson in One Championship. Round 1 and round 3 were Muay That rules, round 2 and round 4 were MMA. DJ would just survive round one. In round 2 he just walked up to the Muay Thai striker god immediately and submitted him with zero issues. A boxer already gets destroyed in kickboxing, let alone MMA where he would also need wrestling and a Ground game
@verhallt it's not a good comparison though. A boxer without ground training would get easily slaughtered by a grappling expert. Boxing stance is notoriously bad for MMA. You can punch all you want but what are your punches gonna do when a good wrestler just shoots for your legs?
Besides his power and versatility, he also was very versatile. He could fuck you up with shots to the body, with his left or his right, with his jab or his uppercut, etc, etc. He is a legend.
Tyson was so quick and had such explosive power in his prime he definitely could have beaten a kick boxer. The longer the fight went on the leg kicks would be really bad for him so he would have to get it over with as quick as possible.
Well, Mike ain't big. You could keep him at distance with kicks. And quickness and explosiveness will go down the drain after a couple of low kicks. It won't be easy though and if Mike learns how to adapt with some training. Basic checking and such he could easily wreck most if not all.
@@soyouknow8207 Tyson was a freak so a little training to stop takedowns and it would be almost impossible for these guys to handle him in a clinch. Imagine prime Tyson dirty boxing?
Whenever Tyson fans talk about him, they always have to use the term "Prime" Tyson. Why? Because they're always having to make an excuse for why he lost to Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield, and Lennox Lewis. So they can always say, "Prime Tyson would have beaten Holyfield..." Well guess what? Evander Holyfield WAS NOT in his prime either when he fought Tyson! Holyfield had already been in three WARS with Riddick Bowe (who Tyson never fought) by the time he fought Tyson. Also, Buster Douglas was also NOT in his prime when he fought Tyson. Buster already had four losses, THREE by TKO when he fought Tyson. On top of that, Buster Douglas is 6 years older than Mike Tyson. Just admit the facts. Mike Tyson wasn't as great as people think he was. As soon as he faced fighters who were not afraid of him, he folded.
@@wasabi5338 IKR. Believe or not Brad Pitt was seeing Robin Givens, either during the time Mike Tyson was married to her or right after the split up. Mike said that Brad didn't seem to be intimidated by him. Imagine how that must have been like.
I agree completely with K mark hunt was a walking human tank. I wonder how Mike would go fighting a kick boxer like mark hunt fuck I give any thing to see that fight. The best UFC fight of all time was mark versus bigfoot. I have never seen two men take so much damage from each. He is paying for it now unfortunately.
Mike Tyson would have an easier time fighting Mark Hunt than other Kickboxers who utilise their kicks more often. A better fight would have been against David Tua who is probably more tank than Mark Hunt and probably the best boxer we had in New Zealand.
I see the point to some extent but still this is not accurate. Mark fought his whole live against great kick-boxers who kicked against him. He developed skills and ability to defend from kicks. He doesn need to kick in order to CONTROL the distance and the whole aspect of the fighting regarding kicking. There are many more to this subject...
Aotearoa MMA ...you’re the casual. You have absolutely no concept of the speed and strength of a champion boxer...let alone Mike Tyson. It’s just a different class of athlete. You should’ve learned that from the Mayweather/McGregor clown show. Just ask yourself this: if a guy could be making $10 million a fight boxing on ppv, why would he be kickboxing for 10k per fight??? It’s not rocket science: any NBA or NFL player could be the greatest lacrosse player of all time. I don’t care if they like lacrosse better: if they’re good enough to make big money in the bigger sport they’re doing it EVERY TIME.
People always sleeping on how well rounded mike was and just see him as a dude who hit hard. He literally had every stat nearly maxed out except for size. He was good from every position, could attack from any angle, could freely swap between south paw and orthodox, could even square up straight and dominate which most fighters consider suicidal. He had speed like ali and power like liston. Great defense through both one of the strongest guards in boxing and some of the best head movement. Cus didn't fuck around when he took this kid and said this kids gonna be the best. Cus literally took the best parts of all the great boxers and combined them into Mike. Had Mike stayed on-course, he would've been the greatest boxer in history.
Sure i agree Mike is a legend in boxing. But i highly doubt he can defend himself against a black belt BJJ. Be may have some against an Elite MT fighter.
Lol you guys must be the same people that thought Conor was gonna beat floyd. No way in hell would Tyson beat a kick boxer in kick boxing let alone Muay Thai. I’m guessing none of you guys never got kicked in the leg before. A boxer has to plant his lead leg to punch properly. He would get chopped down easily. His only chance is in kickboxing were kickboxers usually dont like to fight close. In Muay Thai Tyson would’ve ate knees & kicks all day. I love Tyson but that’s a totally different sport.
Skankhunt 42 If it’s a street fight (which I’m assuming everyone is talking about) then all Tyson has to do is close the distance on a kickboxer and it’s game over. Now Muay Thai that’s a different story, they are much more intimidating, fierce, and have way better technique than kickboxers.
I seriously doubt he would win agains top level mma fighters and kickboxers in the same weightclass, why? becaus he is extremly vulnerable in his defence agains knees and kicks
Tyson was an awesome boxer. If anyone could take him, it would be Fedor Emelianenko who was unstoppable in his prime in the Pride Fighting Championships. Even Tyson was a fan of watching him.
Tyson's speed in slipping and head movement would bridge the gap faster than any kick boxer could imagine, he does them quickly before leg kicks, clinching knees or elbows become a factor
I'm pretty sure that being punched hard as fuck all the time would also make you resistant to leg kicks, especially if you are within close proximity because it allows less time for your opponent to build momentum and velocity with each kick
Franky Split its pretty different pain imagine someone giving you a nasty Charlie horse where you have dead leg and trying to throw punches at the same time
Andy M totally agree with you. Boxers are built to take damage to the head & body not the legs. A good Muay Thai or kickboxer would just kick the shit out of the boxers lead leg.
Skankhunt 42 You better make those kicks count / hope they drop prime Tyson (if it’s a street fight) otherwise it’s gameover. You can’t just assume that he wouldn’t be able to take leg kicks because he isn’t a kick boxer he was still an amazing, atypical athlete and more than likely he’s not gonna just stand there or keep his distance against a kick boxer he’s gonna close the distance and fight dirty/brawl.. Of course again MT fighters are a different beast but I give him way more of a chance against kickboxers.
@@mvpmvp3861 lol! Hell to no! How you comparing that short, small lightweight to mike tyson. Dudes style is just your typical run of the mill MMA fighting style nowadays. Are you like trying to get people to watch him, is he your friend or something??? Because im sorry but you cant compare NO ONE to IRON! Mike!.
@@mvpmvp3861 Mads Burnell base style is not even boxing to begin with. Until the day theres a heavyweight that wins a few gold medals and decides to transition to MMA then we can compare.
@@fishfire_2999 you think Mike Tyson would just stand therehave you ever seen how fast he moves that's why the peekaboo style boxing would be highly effective against any martial artist
My dad was really really tight, like we were last in the neighborhood to get cable TV in late 80s,not because he wasn't pulling in big money either, so me and my friends mowed grass, shoveled snow, worked in tobacco fields, put up hay and whatever it took to pool our money for the ppv fights +deposit on box( yeah it was basic cable) he was such a warrior
I remember when I first saw the first few MMA fights it was so boring. All they did was hold each other on the ground for a whole 5 minutes. I wrote it off until a couple of years ago. Now I’m excited about the sport.
Tyson had the power of a grizzly bear, the tenacity of a pit bull terrier, and a level of boxing skill that very few possess. A pleasure to watch that man ply his trade in the ring.
I remember going to local kickboxing events in the late 80's and it was like described here... a few token kicks to satisfy the minimum kick rule, then substandard boxing.
The question isnt "could Iron Mike Tyson handle a mma fighter in his prine?" Its more like "how pissed would the fans be after the fight ended in 30 seconds and is the mma fighter still in one piece?"
yes i've always thought about this. Mike Tyson is kind of the only boxer that i can imagine going in to something like MMA not just because he was scary but the discipline power and the level of competitiveness that he was able to display during his time with kevin rooney and the fact that he can litterally knock you out in seconds. i know some people say that he only fought bums but i think that's really not fair. many fighters show that a lack of competitiveness, training and focus can diminish a fighters capabilities in the ring or octagon. how about you try and work hard to be a champion boxer spend four months getting drunk counting money and partying and suddenly throw him in a cage with a man that wants to do nothing but dismantle you (Douglas)
Not saying Tyson would beat every heavyweight, but he would dog walk about a good 80%. People keep talking about kicks and shit. You've obviously never seen Tyson fight. He wouldn't let them get the proper distance to kick. Then you have other idiots saying he would break his hand with 4oz. gloves. Bitch, he knows how to throw a punch. 😂
The shoulder width stance that he uses in boxing, they use in kickboxing you could easily train him how to kick and to block and evade kicks you could train him in two months max
If say there was a period in his career short, but to where I personally thought he could beat more than 80 percent of the heavyweights I felt like cocaine, Prozac, all the drugs he took really ruined him if he would have real guidance and not don king, robin givens, etc he might of retired undefeated, imagine if cus was still alive at that time oh well coulda shoulda woulda.
Have you guys never heard of a teap? It’s basically a jab with a foot of range added , Mike would not be able to get near a elite mma or Muay Thai fighter and if he did, he would most likely be taken down or clinched and then elbowed and knee’d and I love Mike Tyson but that is the truth. Sorry but not Sorry 🤷🏽♂️
Bone Crusher Smith lives in my town of Myrtle Beach, SC. I see him around about once per year. Nice guy. When I shook his hand they were like catchers mitts. I couldn't imagine getting hit by him back in the day.
This is the ignorance of Boxers that i personally know of, Rogan described it perfectly in that famous interview back in the day, Boxing is just 1 tool in the vastness that is fighting . You and the people that liked that comments are either complete casuals who know nothing of the sports KB MT MMA or Boxing or are completely delusional
The Muay's and Lethwei are pretty big up north in the UK now. We have an amazing Thai gym in Newcastle called "Northern Kings" with two former world champs teaching. As far as being televised, you can just find anything you want online, so that stuff doesn't really matter. Lethwei is a lot more niche, but we have one gym south of the river.
A big reason mma is big in the states is cause it was marketed really well, ill never understand why dana decided instead of creating a kick boxing or Muay thai organization he made slap fighting
Thing about tyson is that he wud be very open minded to learning different styles too. he loves mma and kickboxing. his favorite fighter is a kickboxer ramon dekkers. a young tyson would be unstoppable if he learned mma or kickboxing
Joe needs to get Benny the Jet on the show. He was the supreme reigning champion kick boxer for over 2 decades. The guy is a legend who stays humble and out of the limelight.
Benny "the Jet" Urquidez is hands down the GOAT in Kickboxing but since hes American nobody wants to mention him and the true fact that the Dutch style kickboxing was influenced by Urquidez is also not going to be mentioned
@@sambridhathapa4313 I think he's too fast. If he got taken down he would lose but I don't think he would. imagine the damage he would do with four ounce gloves on
@John Small Jones, Silva in his prime and DC would be close fights and of course there's a possibility of them beating him. But the rest would get murdered. Most elite boxers wouldn't stand a chance in an octagon but Tyson is a different animal. His style, defence, strength, and speed would cause any MMA fight massive problems.
@@omegasquad868 no we are from Tacoma Washington, our family has been here a long time!!! We even have a Street named after my Dads side of the family Steele Street 😄💪💞💯
When cus dmato passed away mike still hasn't won his 1st world title yet, he was still a year away from winning his first belt and his best was yet to come
@@01wwjr well there's a perfectly logical reason for that. one must naturally assume that the competition gets better the closer you get to a title and even better after the title is won. He started off beating guys no ones ever heard of. Top 100 then top 50, then top 20 and eventually top 10 in order to get the title shot. Of course he isn't going to beat the top 10 fighters and champions as easily as he beats the top 100 and journymen lol. After he has the belt everyone he fights is top 10 because they earned the title shot. That's the way this works you know.
@@01wwjr dirtyjew1974 is right. You simply have to look at the level of competition! Tyson was 11-0 while Cus was still alive but the quality of opponents was very low. The best guys didn't want to face Tyson and didn't have to AT THE TIME because Don King pretty much controlled Heavyweight boxing. Tyson was under the management of Bill Cayton and Jim Jacobs, who were struggling to get him good names. So he beat what was in front of him. He didn't face anyone half-decent until David Jaco in his 16th pro fight and then Jesse Ferguson in his 18th. James Tillis and Mitch Green were never going to be KO'd, whoever was in Mike's corner! They were a big step-up from what he'd faced by then and good learning experiences. Not everyone can score KO's every time.
@@TheTruth-pl3mk it's not about a KO its about developing and adding skills to grow. Mike stopped growing after Cus death. It doesn't matter who he fought. If you followed Mike you should know Mitch was knocked out in the street fight they had. You just basically said Cus didn't matter. He wouldn't made a difference. That tells me you know nothing about having true trust with someone. Mike felt invincible because of him. Cus died most of Mike's confadince and trust died with him.
Love watching intelligent people with fight knowledge, throw “Iron Mike” into the equation and they just know “MT” could’ve fucked up any fighter! I truly respect this conversation.👍🇦🇺🍺
We all know Mike Tyson is extremely well conditioned, powerful, explosive, fast, has great understanding of range and positioning but we forget that he had a great mental attitude towards training. He was a great student. absorbing all that he was taught. If Mike Tyson cared enough and if he had the right trainer he could easily learn, at the very least, how to defend kicks, knees and many kickboxing strategies. The potential to learn how to low kick is there to. Imagine how devastating his low kicks would be!? Couple that with his punches. You got yourself a high level Muay Mat style fighter! All he would need to do is condition his legs some more for the kicks. I personally prefer muay thai/kickboxing to just boxing but I can see Tyson defeating kickboxers because hes just tbat good an athlete.
Mike Tyson would have taken down Optimus in his Prime.
Underrated
Underrated
So many double meanings
Probably bite his ear too 😄
Megatron like this.
tyson could've defeated thanos in his prime
He cozld beat Dr.Manhattan in his prime
Yeah haha
He could have beaten THOR, HULK and HANCOCK all together
Anurag Deuri could he beat farmer with a shotgun though?
That means Lennox lewis and Evander holyfield could beat Thanos too
Tyson in his prime would have eradicated the coronavirus.
@As I See It open your mind eye...
He said eradicate the virus...as in eliminate it from existence entirely from the world/universe.
@As I See It oh you’re one of those guys, lmao. You must be a well respected scientist or doctor to know it’s a fake.
@As I See It
So you’d rather be brainwashed by other forms of media. To each their own.
@As I See It holy shit, it's a fuckin joke. Get over yourself.
@@floridafan561 You mean a "well respected scientist" such as Neil Ferguson, who has been fantastically wrong on every meaningful prediction ever, including well before the present situation, was caught disregarding his own scaremongering and is still pretended to be a credible expert unlike all the ones who made more realistic predictions from the start? Like all the "credible experts" who wrote the specific, supposedly "scientific" basis for the validation of the WHO's global PCR test regime while having several undisclosed conflicts of interest and with two of the paper's authors actually on the editorial board of the journal which, incidentally, published it after an alleged peer-review lasting one day?
I guess you are one of those people who think the government-sanctioned experts paraded around on TV actually constitutes any consensus - let alone a scientifically based one - while the entire context of the debate is _completely politicized_ so that the personal consequences of every expert's opinion, in terms of respect, recognition, social standing and professional opportunities, are based not on the quality of their work but on its political serviceability.
If this were really the new plague, consider how it would be that the global body of serological studies has indicated a mortality rate no higher than your normal flu, as explicitly (if quietly) admitted to by the WHO months ago, how excess mortality outside of lockdowns is literally not a thing anywhere in the world, and how flu would have been eliminated worldwide because everybody is wearing their masks while the rona is running rampant because nobody is wearing a mask. Or just go back into your ignorant, authoritarian bubble where everyone who disagrees with the government position is a dangerous quasi-terrorist, regardless of their arguments and no matter how well-qualified an expert they may be, and if you just call all of them _"cOnSpIrAcY tHeOrIsT!!!!1"_ hard enough you will automatically be right without ever having to think anything other than what the TV tells you to.
Tyson in his prime was the scariest man to step in any ring
Mike doesn't believe that Muhammad Ali didn't believe he was the scariest man to step in any ring they all believed The 'Gavlestion' Giant Jack Johnson was the scariest man.
Tyson got his ass beat
Ya but I'm saying it .
If I had to get in the ring
Mike was the scariest sight I could imagine
Emilianelco...in his prime best Tyson by far
@@ozkrhills9624 no way
I was chatting fedor the other day
He said Mike was a beast
Mike Tyson would have taken down the Third Reich in his prime
thematic 😂😂had hitler mad quiet about that physically superior breed he was talking about.
Prime Tyson lost to Douglas, LMAO
marek falk That wasn’t his prime..he was already in decline and partying way too hard
@@spinner771 cmon, decline at age 21 or 22? the reality was that he fought nobodys when he was in his so called prime
He sure would have. And upper cutted Hitlers fucking head off.
Is there any kickboxer willing to fight mike tyson in his prime. That's the question
He would. However to get out of the fight he would probably assault some one and go to jail
Before it started
Badr is the only one
You've just asked the right question.
Badri hari, mark hunt circa 2004, Jerome le banner, Tyrone spong, semmy schilt. Would any of them win? No probably not but all of em were crazy enough to try.
@Mosaab early k1 was some of THE MOST elite striking in history. Watching Ernesto Hoost, Ray Sefo and Peter Aerts. Kids nowadays will never understand the pure talent.
Imagine if prime mike tyson fought prime mike tyson
Now that would've been a fight
Hahahahahahahaha...wonder they haven't run a computer model by now...ahahahahaha
Lol a lot of head bobbing and weaving lol.
Tyson would win
Both Tysons would uppercut ko each other at the same time
That would open a wormhole in the space time Continuum.
What people forget about Tyson was his ability to avoid punches. Mike had a metronome-like movement, constantly ducking and weaving, anticipating the punches, moving effortlessly out of the way, and incorporating that defensive movement in his counter-attack, usually a rising left hook or uppercut. It was truly a thing of beauty to watch.
Well said. I've heard clowns who no nothing about boxing say he was a just a brawler. I'd ask have have you ever seen him box?
Facts my coach told me that tyson was so good not just because his power punching but hes abillity to stay away from those punches
It was his style Cus taught him I can’t remember the name of the style it’s like looksie Lou or something, where you slide in n out of punches, when you throw a punch you also weave out as if you were the one getting punched at
@@theSuperviLLain_est peeka boo?
What about kick
If you’re here to hear about Mike Tyson then go ahead and skip to three minutes and 30 seconds in the video.
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@Tomás Mac Donnchaidh thank you from the future 😂😂
You’re a legend
3:30
3:25 is when they start talking about Tyson.
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Mike Tyson is the only man Chuck Norris said, Pardon-Me to.
Chuck said that after he ko'd Mike and stepped over his body: "Pardon me".
@@joonaslehtonen7965
Yeah, that could happened.
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@@joonaslehtonen7965 Delusions.
U have gone too far
@@joonaslehtonen7965 Na na get it right dude , Mike slammed a revolving door in Chucks face and said Pardon me
I used to be a kickboxer back in the 80s. Problem is we have to train with our legs as well as hands, neither perfecting one or another. A boxer just trains with his hands but he perfects it. Tyson would only need to deflect a kick or two and then move in for the kill. He was an absolute beast in close quarter fighting. Argument settled.
Late eighties, early 90's for me. He had great footwork, was strong as an ox with a mule kick punch from how many angles?? Haha how many signature punches did he have? Throwing hard fast kicks can leave you exposed to that. Yeah nah not for me thanks.
Well Liam Harrison's done a pretty good job of it.
Although for Tyson there is a big weight difference.
just train twice as hard then?
I don’t agree, Muay thai fighters are the best for kicking. Tell me any other style better for leg crushing low kick and tell me how a boxer can close the distance if a 100kg 2m guy throw low kick on his front leg joint ten times in a round. The only way a boxer can win is if he train in kickboxing for 1 or 2 year before a serious fight.
@@KirtianMSure pal, whatever you gotta tell yourself to make yourself feel better about hitting like a girl. In the real world, boxers win every time. I've been winning since day 1 in Muay Thai--and STILL
I loved Tyson's response when asked in his prime, "who could defeat him?" He said a 357 magnum:)
Did he really? What's the interview called?
@@gamedog6704 thanks buddy appreciate it also Mike was nuts back then xd
Guess Buster Douglas should have changed his name to 357
@@dl30wpb *mike tyson with kevin rooney who actually trained and didnt have sex with japanese maids
@@dl30wpb 13 second count. Mike won
I just came to comment because this is a stupid title. Mike Tyson in his prime would have defeated Godzilla.
@@JM-nd5wj Someone order this man a psychiatrist because he's talking crazy talk.
@@JM-nd5wjthat is the most dillusional shit I've ever heard spouted and I have worked with a flat Earther.
It's official. Shasta has the best comment of the week lol
@@JM-nd5wj bruh you dumb as fuck, Mike Tyson would single handedly take out an entire army with nothing but his hands and a donkeys jaw bone
@@JM-nd5wj to call mike tyson overrated is beyond fucking lunatic talk. Are you okay sir?
A grizzly bear has a plan until Iron Mike hits it in the face!
Then the grizzly would decapitate Mike with a swing of the claw 😂
@@w7n424 prime mike Tyson would put that bear on a shirt ngl
At 50 years old, Tyson is still smacking prime UFC fighters in training.
I dont think people here understand how fast and powerful Tyson was and still is.
Tyson had both wrestling and ground training. The idea of Tyson doing ground and pound should be beyond terrifying
he's athletically built for combat sport. he became a boxer because that's what was big at the time and today UFC is a bigger stage than boxing.
Mike doing mma is basically a death sentence for anyone in the other side of the octagon 😂. he wouldn't even need to master kicking so much. he'd knock someone out with his punches just like he always did, and in ufc you can keep hitting when your opponents on the ground, mike doing hammer punches or wrestling would be too dangerous
MT is 55 but still
@@dave5961 I think Mike would still prefer boxing cos payday is still way more than mma
I mean if Jon Jones was going for real he would murder Tyson in his prime or not.
@@rgutt2884 😂😂Jon jones gets smacked by a 4oz glove left hook from Tyson his jaws gone
Mike Tyson was literally the baddest man on the planet for about a 5-6 year span. You could argue even longer
Daddy SmokesYams That’s what we were told anyway. Holyfield didn’t seem to think so.
Give me a break he fought a man 11 years older than him during his prime (James Tillis) and it wasn’t exactly an easy fight.
Tyson fought bums
Juahn Hatwell and all 5 times he didn’t he got exposed.
@@anthonyjosephcaruso Holyfield fought Mike when he wasn't in his prime. We all know that! Prime Mike was pre 3 year prison stint!
Tyson the only person who has final boss music when he enters the ring
You're in trouble when you hear the "Mike Tyson's Punchout" music.
Thats Fedor in PRIDE.
My understanding is that Tyson had a phenomenal talent and was a student of boxing. If you'd give him time to prepare for another style, or if had taken up MMA instead of boxing, his combination of defensive speed, power abd accuracy could translate very well to other arts
He just needs enough grappling to avoid a takedown cause no one can beat him in striking
@@abhijitha4071leg kicks do hurt tho
Tyson was an absolute Beast in his prime!! If he had stayed cleaned and trained properly no one could beat him.
Well after he was around heavys tended to go taller. 6' 7" boxers with solid jab would make his night pretty hard. But this kick boxing stuff I don't buy. If there were anyone on the planet that had a chance to stand up to him you would have heard about him. Kind of like pitching prospects, if you can pitch you get notice no matter where you are pitching.
@@KentonJoseph 💯 u are exactly right!! I was being sarcastic bout Tyson being unstoppable. Anyway, ur right bout mtfs now adays it's all bout money and who can fill a stadium etc. There is so much incredible talent out there but we'll never see it plus it's who can promote and how popular the athlete is and of course $$$!!!!
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Tyson was no ordinary boxer. He was very quick in his prime, besides hitting like a freight train.
Tyson is STILL incredibly fast. I know a amateur boxer who saw him practicing and said his speed even now is frightening.
@Im Your Huckleberry Ali did have a lightening fast jab. And Mike had a lighting fast gazelle punch. One stings, the other knocks you flat on your ass.
@Im Your Huckleberry You say no, then you agree with me? No boxer works off of just one punch or one combo set. Whats your point?
@Im Your Huckleberry You seem angry...
@Im Your Huckleberry Perhaps its time to step away from the internet for a little while. Its making you crabby.
Anyone who fought Tyson in his prime thought they could beat him until they got hit
As soon as Tyson ducks to doge a punch. Dude would get a knee or kick to the jaw. Done deal
@@xavierh1744 thats why people have two hands
@@xavierh1744 also when you weave duck or whatever you wont look directly at the ground
I love Tyson but the chances of
Him beating a kickboxer or Muay Thai fighter are low
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Tyson in his prime would have intimidated the hell out of the UFC heavyweight champs of today and they would be very concerned as they saw him coming towards them wearing only 4 ounce gloves.
Exactly cuz with those 4oz gloves, he could put you unconscious in the blink of an eye. Any MMA guy would have had to wrestle for dear life against a prime Tyson
@@jefft7705 Or just kick his leg a few times so that he can barely walk...
@@The_Original_Hybrid I mean yh kicks could work, but it's still risky business because your striking with him. Don't forget how fast he could close distance. You throw a kick at the wrong time while he darts in with a blow and it'll be trouble. Grappling him would be much safer choice.
@Hraub777 he was not that big actually. The most epic super striking talents get ragdolled if their opponents can grapple. Look at the Rodtang Vs Demetrius Johnson in One Championship. Round 1 and round 3 were Muay That rules, round 2 and round 4 were MMA. DJ would just survive round one. In round 2 he just walked up to the Muay Thai striker god immediately and submitted him with zero issues. A boxer already gets destroyed in kickboxing, let alone MMA where he would also need wrestling and a Ground game
@verhallt it's not a good comparison though. A boxer without ground training would get easily slaughtered by a grappling expert. Boxing stance is notoriously bad for MMA. You can punch all you want but what are your punches gonna do when a good wrestler just shoots for your legs?
What made Mike legendary is the combination of great speed and great power. Usually fighters have one or the other. Only him had both.
Besides his power and versatility, he also was very versatile. He could fuck you up with shots to the body, with his left or his right, with his jab or his uppercut, etc, etc. He is a legend.
What a load of bullshit. Power comes from speed. More speed more power. Less speed less power. As simple as that.
@@siddharthnaik2361 its not as simple as that
@@siddharthnaik2361 not really, look at amir khan, where is power??
Prime mike has a chance against anyone in history
nah rhonda rousey would have knocked him out.
she is the greatest athlete in all of history according to Rogan ;D
Not Holyfield
@Smallie Biggs not a women though
Patrick Bronske that wasn’t iron mike
Not buster douglas
Could a pro kickboxer take a punch from a prime Tyson ? I seriously doubt it.
True kick boxers seem to go down faster then reg boxers. And not even from head kicks
In street fights? Nope, hardly anyone can. But could Mike tyson also take a punch or a kick from a powerful kickboxer. Depends who hits first.
@@dannemesias9625 mike tyson could take punches from a monster truck and still go on
@@shahood8116 Oh pls. You're probably one of those people who think Bruce Lee could beat everybody too?
@@dannemesias9625 not to my knowledge
Tyson was so quick and had such explosive power in his prime he definitely could have beaten a kick boxer. The longer the fight went on the leg kicks would be really bad for him so he would have to get it over with as quick as possible.
Well, Mike ain't big. You could keep him at distance with kicks. And quickness and explosiveness will go down the drain after a couple of low kicks. It won't be easy though and if Mike learns how to adapt with some training. Basic checking and such he could easily wreck most if not all.
@@soyouknow8207 Tyson was a freak so a little training to stop takedowns and it would be almost impossible for these guys to handle him in a clinch. Imagine prime Tyson dirty boxing?
Whenever Tyson fans talk about him, they always have to use the term "Prime" Tyson. Why? Because they're always having to make an excuse for why he lost to Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield, and Lennox Lewis. So they can always say, "Prime Tyson would have beaten Holyfield..." Well guess what? Evander Holyfield WAS NOT in his prime either when he fought Tyson! Holyfield had already been in three WARS with Riddick Bowe (who Tyson never fought) by the time he fought Tyson. Also, Buster Douglas was also NOT in his prime when he fought Tyson. Buster already had four losses, THREE by TKO when he fought Tyson. On top of that, Buster Douglas is 6 years older than Mike Tyson. Just admit the facts. Mike Tyson wasn't as great as people think he was. As soon as he faced fighters who were not afraid of him, he folded.
@@user-sg8kq7ii3y yup
The "Prime" Tyson argument is the grandaddy of many mma equivalents
"Sea Level" Cain "Roider" Reem
@@user-sg8kq7ii3y when he fought holyfield he hadn't trained for awhile
The intimidation that Tyson had over his opponents, was on a different level back in his prime.
imagine being shorter, have a lisp and a high pitched voice and still intimidate heavyweight boxers. Its incredible.
@@wasabi5338 IKR. Believe or not Brad Pitt was seeing Robin Givens, either during the time Mike Tyson was married to her or right after the split up.
Mike said that Brad didn't seem to be intimidated by him.
Imagine how that must have been like.
@@rpmfreak9150 czcams.com/video/8QbB6vuuLBw/video.htmlfeature=shared
nah, Brad was scared lmao
If Mark Hunt was able to be successful being a kickboxer without throwing many kicks, Mike Tyson can do the same.
Prime Hunt vs Prime Tyson would be one hell of a fight.
@Niko yea. He's also like 270 too.
I agree completely with K mark hunt was a walking human tank. I wonder how Mike would go fighting a kick boxer like mark hunt fuck I give any thing to see that fight. The best UFC fight of all time was mark versus bigfoot. I have never seen two men take so much damage from each. He is paying for it now unfortunately.
Mike Tyson would have an easier time fighting Mark Hunt than other Kickboxers who utilise their kicks more often. A better fight would have been against David Tua who is probably more tank than Mark Hunt and probably the best boxer we had in New Zealand.
I see the point to some extent but still this is not accurate. Mark fought his whole live against great kick-boxers who kicked against him. He developed skills and ability to defend from kicks. He doesn need to kick in order to CONTROL the distance and the whole aspect of the fighting regarding kicking. There are many more to this subject...
Everyone acting like Tyson wouldn’t learn how to defend against a front kick before the fight started. Peek a boo...uppercut...lights out.
How would you uppercut a front kick? do you know how long a leg is?
@North American CZcamsr lol casual
That style would not work in MMA youd get yourself headkick easily
Aotearoa MMA ...you’re the casual. You have absolutely no concept of the speed and strength of a champion boxer...let alone Mike Tyson. It’s just a different class of athlete. You should’ve learned that from the Mayweather/McGregor clown show. Just ask yourself this: if a guy could be making $10 million a fight boxing on ppv, why would he be kickboxing for 10k per fight??? It’s not rocket science: any NBA or NFL player could be the greatest lacrosse player of all time. I don’t care if they like lacrosse better: if they’re good enough to make big money in the bigger sport they’re doing it EVERY TIME.
@@treedillinger5801 But a wrestler beats a boxer, almost every time.
Props to the british dudes for not cracking a smile when joe kept saying "bummer"
People always sleeping on how well rounded mike was and just see him as a dude who hit hard. He literally had every stat nearly maxed out except for size.
He was good from every position, could attack from any angle, could freely swap between south paw and orthodox, could even square up straight and dominate which most fighters consider suicidal. He had speed like ali and power like liston. Great defense through both one of the strongest guards in boxing and some of the best head movement.
Cus didn't fuck around when he took this kid and said this kids gonna be the best. Cus literally took the best parts of all the great boxers and combined them into Mike. Had Mike stayed on-course, he would've been the greatest boxer in history.
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Sure i agree Mike is a legend in boxing. But i highly doubt he can defend himself against a black belt BJJ. Be may have some against an Elite MT fighter.
wow well said.
Yes! Mike fought so closely on the inside, it would’ve been hard for a kick boxer to get a solid kick off before eating a barrage of punches. Jmo
@Joseph Dufek great point, i agree
Lol you guys must be the same people that thought Conor was gonna beat floyd. No way in hell would Tyson beat a kick boxer in kick boxing let alone Muay Thai. I’m guessing none of you guys never got kicked in the leg before. A boxer has to plant his lead leg to punch properly. He would get chopped down easily. His only chance is in kickboxing were kickboxers usually dont like to fight close. In Muay Thai Tyson would’ve ate knees & kicks all day. I love Tyson but that’s a totally different sport.
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If it’s a street fight (which I’m assuming everyone is talking about) then all Tyson has to do is close the distance on a kickboxer and it’s game over. Now Muay Thai that’s a different story, they are much more intimidating, fierce, and have way better technique than kickboxers.
@@BOOTY_BALLS I think they talking about in the ring.
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I see. I still think he’d have way more of a chance in a kickboxing match than a MT match.
Give the kickboxer a knife and I'd still probably take tyson
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@@dirgramsey6132 hilarious and original comedy
@@dirgramsey6132 only in ur wildest, oiliest fantasies bud
Tyson could definitely win fights against kickboxers and MMA fighters.
In other news, Water is wet
I seriously doubt he would win agains top level mma fighters and kickboxers in the same weightclass, why? becaus he is extremly vulnerable in his defence agains knees and kicks
I mean there were K-1 heavyweights such as Badr Hari and Alistair Overeem who could easily take on Mike Tyson in my opinion.
@@italienischesmett163 100% he would not stand a chance if they would fight with kickboxing rules
Only if he could close the disttant
I love the thumbnail. It's so serious. And the only person who could defeat mike tyson was mike tyson.
Tyson would legitimately kill someone with 4 oz gloves
Tyson in his prime could defeat anyone in any profession.
He was the baddest man on the planet.
Could not beat a lawyer in a rape trial.
Prime Tyson would not Beat Foreman. Even Foreman on a comeback.
Tyson was an awesome boxer. If anyone could take him, it would be Fedor Emelianenko who was unstoppable in his prime in the Pride Fighting Championships. Even Tyson was a fan of watching him.
@@bighands69 Bruv Tyson would smoke Foreman.
Except Buster
"Everyone has a plan,until they get punched in the mouth"
Dennis Alexio, Don The Dragon Wilson, and Benny Urquidez were amazing to watch.
Tyson would have knocked all 3 of them out back to back in the same night in less then 3 minutes combined for all 3 fights..
Does a kick boxer have immortal ears? *I don’t think so*
You mean invincible?
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@I Don't Care Why does everyone feel a need to correct grammar on CZcams its fucking ridiculous, cant write a comment without getting graded 🤪
I just thought immortal sounded funny lol
Same thing. Literally.
Imagine eating a uppercut from prime Tyson in 4oz gloves... good night... i mean rip
Wouldn't really hurt... Until you woke up.
Probably kill most people, or brain damage them for life
Big George with 4oz gloves is scarier.
@@flyinghole IF you woke up lol
@@mrHoppedupfordHave you ever seen Forman on the heavy bag
Mike Tyson as a dlc mk11 character would be amazing. He could walk in with a couple tigers on a leash.
That's his finishing move
Tyson's speed in slipping and head movement would bridge the gap faster than any kick boxer could imagine, he does them quickly before leg kicks, clinching knees or elbows become a factor
He could easily knock out a pro kickboxer. But he could only take a handful of leg kicks before he’s done
I'm pretty sure that being punched hard as fuck all the time would also make you resistant to leg kicks, especially if you are within close proximity because it allows less time for your opponent to build momentum and velocity with each kick
Franky Split its pretty different pain imagine someone giving you a nasty Charlie horse where you have dead leg and trying to throw punches at the same time
Andy M totally agree with you. Boxers are built to take damage to the head & body not the legs. A good Muay Thai or kickboxer would just kick the shit out of the boxers lead leg.
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You better make those kicks count / hope they drop prime Tyson (if it’s a street fight) otherwise it’s gameover. You can’t just assume that he wouldn’t be able to take leg kicks because he isn’t a kick boxer he was still an amazing, atypical athlete and more than likely he’s not gonna just stand there or keep his distance against a kick boxer he’s gonna close the distance and fight dirty/brawl.. Of course again MT fighters are a different beast but I give him way more of a chance against kickboxers.
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Yeah I agree with closing the distance, MT’s footwork in closing the distance was amazing
The peekaboo style could be effective against so many other martial arts
I recommend checking out UFC fighter Mads Burnell's fights. He's what Tyson would look like in MMA if he could wrestle.
@@mvpmvp3861 lol! Hell to no! How you comparing that short, small lightweight to mike tyson. Dudes style is just your typical run of the mill MMA fighting style nowadays. Are you like trying to get people to watch him, is he your friend or something???
Because im sorry but you cant compare NO ONE to IRON! Mike!.
@@mvpmvp3861 Mads Burnell base style is not even boxing to begin with. Until the day theres a heavyweight that wins a few gold medals and decides to transition to MMA then we can compare.
Liver punch kick , head kick , leg kicks , would not be a good day for mike .
@@fishfire_2999 you think Mike Tyson would just stand therehave you ever seen how fast he moves that's why the peekaboo style boxing would be highly effective against any martial artist
My dad was really really tight, like we were last in the neighborhood to get cable TV in late 80s,not because he wasn't pulling in big money either, so me and my friends mowed grass, shoveled snow, worked in tobacco fields, put up hay and whatever it took to pool our money for the ppv fights +deposit on box( yeah it was basic cable) he was such a warrior
I remember when I first saw the first few MMA fights it was so boring. All they did was hold each other on the ground for a whole 5 minutes. I wrote it off until a couple of years ago. Now I’m excited about the sport.
I think any true Tyson fan knows the true answer to this......
Tyson would demolish any one in his prime.
Lennox lewis was beating Mike ass in sparring before they ever fought
Louis Walsh’s knowledge on full contact combat sports is surprising.
Ronnie Kray haha thanks man four minutes in I’d drifted off trying to figure out who this guy is a dead ringer for I’ll sleep now
Tyson had the power of a grizzly bear, the tenacity of a pit bull terrier, and a level of boxing skill that very few possess. A pleasure to watch that man ply his trade in the ring.
I remember going to local kickboxing events in the late 80's and it was like described here...
a few token kicks to satisfy the minimum kick rule, then substandard boxing.
Mike Tyson couldve taken down Tower 7 in his prime.
Yup, but instead a couple of small office fires did.
Don't say that, it was ruled a suicide.
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Mike Tyson can melt steal beams
So could a bic lighter, apparently.
The question isnt "could Iron Mike Tyson handle a mma fighter in his prine?" Its more like "how pissed would the fans be after the fight ended in 30 seconds and is the mma fighter still in one piece?"
Iron Mike even in his past prime would have beaten all sort of things in their prime.
yes i've always thought about this. Mike Tyson is kind of the only boxer that i can imagine going in to something like MMA not just because he was scary but the discipline power and the level of competitiveness that he was able to display during his time with kevin rooney and the fact that he can litterally knock you out in seconds. i know some people say that he only fought bums but i think that's really not fair. many fighters show that a lack of competitiveness, training and focus can diminish a fighters capabilities in the ring or octagon. how about you try and work hard to be a champion boxer spend four months getting drunk counting money and partying and suddenly throw him in a cage with a man that wants to do nothing but dismantle you (Douglas)
George foreman would splatter he floor with blood against any mma fighter
If the kickboxer was on DMT he would have won.
That's craaayzyy!
Only if he’d spent two hours in a sensory deprivation water chamber.
Bro... Have you ever tried DMT?
He could have taken crack, pcp and speed and Mike would have still put him to sleep.
Bro, have you ever tried to fight a machine elf?
You don't need to know what happens. Just don't.
Mike Tyson would have defeated Chuck Norris...(The internet version)... in his prime
Chuck Norris never dies...... coz he hasn't faced Iron Mike
not happening man people say under chuck norris beard is
ANOTHER CHUCK NORRIS so he is basically immortal
You fool. Know nothing.
Chuck Norris was killed and he made a full recovery fool.
Tyson in his prime be like : King Kong ain’t got shit on me personified.
would have loved to see this whole podcast. can I get it on spotify?
Not saying Tyson would beat every heavyweight, but he would dog walk about a good 80%. People keep talking about kicks and shit. You've obviously never seen Tyson fight. He wouldn't let them get the proper distance to kick.
Then you have other idiots saying he would break his hand with 4oz. gloves. Bitch, he knows how to throw a punch. 😂
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Agreed. He was too fast and wouldn't let them get any kind of kicks. Motherfuckers just don't understand.
People underestimate the foot movement of boxers,tyson would of been trouble for anyone
The shoulder width stance that he uses in boxing, they use in kickboxing you could easily train him how to kick and to block and evade kicks you could train him in two months max
If say there was a period in his career short, but to where I personally thought he could beat more than 80 percent of the heavyweights I felt like cocaine, Prozac, all the drugs he took really ruined him if he would have real guidance and not don king, robin givens, etc he might of retired undefeated, imagine if cus was still alive at that time oh well coulda shoulda woulda.
Have you guys never heard of a teap? It’s basically a jab with a foot of range added , Mike would not be able to get near a elite mma or Muay Thai fighter and if he did, he would most likely be taken down or clinched and then elbowed and knee’d and I love Mike Tyson but that is the truth. Sorry but not Sorry 🤷🏽♂️
I'm from Leeds. Really weird listening to someone with our accent on JRE. Love it!
As another Yorkshire lad, I loved to hear it :)
Prime mike was a freak athlete, imagine him training years in MMA😳
I forget who said it but it’s the truest statement I’ve ever heard Mike Tyson would make people leave their skills in the locker room
I feel lucky to have grown up watching Tyson in the early 90's and have witnessed him during his reign.
I wonder when we r gonna get another Mike Tyson. A 15yr old kid knocking people who r 6ft+, 25yr old+ and 100kg+
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David Tua in his prime was similar to Tyson
@@ANDROID-19-jk4el Tua vs Tyson would have been so good man! I wish it actually did happen.
I can listen to people reminisce about Tyson all day
3:35 Joe turned English for a second 😂😂. English Joe
"Uh-wae"
The punch Tyson hit Michael 'Jack' Johnson with was one of the hardest I've ever seen a man get hit in my life.
Mike would have broke everyones jaw with the mma gloves
But what if Tyson gets thrown down in the ground? You think he can be defend himself in the ground?
@@infestchristopher1457 On ground obviously not but during the process they would probably be knocked out
Permanent Brain Damage
@@Xkxkxpker be gets taken down eat because he bum rushes his opponents easier to take you down coming in
Tyson in his prime could Wipeout the existence of all ant colony in the whole world just by looking at them.
Bone Crusher Smith lives in my town of Myrtle Beach, SC. I see him around about once per year. Nice guy. When I shook his hand they were like catchers mitts. I couldn't imagine getting hit by him back in the day.
The real question is: Could Mike Tyson defeat Thanos wielding the Infinity Gauntlet ?
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Mike Tyson in his prime would destroy these heavy kickboxer! His power alone was unreal!
NO
kickboxer in history would have kept tyson at bay
This is the ignorance of Boxers that i personally know of, Rogan described it perfectly in that famous interview back in the day, Boxing is just 1 tool in the vastness that is fighting . You and the people that liked that comments are either complete casuals who know nothing of the sports KB MT MMA or Boxing or are completely delusional
Thats if they get to him, he was so quick for height
@@soytupappa one tool, but the fastest most deadly tool in a fight. That in combination with unworldly hand and foot speed from a heavyweight animal.
@@soytupappa And if you knew anything about Muay Thai you'd know most knock outs come from punches.
Pat Smith vs Mike Tyson as a superfight in UFC 2 (1994) would have been interesting. Tyson slightly passed his prime, but still monstrous.
Like Mike Tyson vs Jean-Claude Van Damme!!! Now that’s a fight!!! 💪🥰✌️
Do you mean from universal soilder? 😆😆😆
Imagine getting hit by prime Tyson as hard as he could with no glove on.
The og one punch man
The question is too long. It should read:
Could Mike Tyson in his prime defeat... STOP. Yes. He could.
He would get destroyed by not even elite kickboxers, you casuals are funny af hahaha
I had no idea Liam was on JRE, fkn love the guy.
The Muay's and Lethwei are pretty big up north in the UK now. We have an amazing Thai gym in Newcastle called "Northern Kings" with two former world champs teaching. As far as being televised, you can just find anything you want online, so that stuff doesn't really matter. Lethwei is a lot more niche, but we have one gym south of the river.
Still trying to figure out how college wrestling is the reason kick boxing is not popular in the US
Babyboo186 haha I think it’s a cultural thing.
He was saying there is a large stock of wrestlers, and they transition into MMA, so the interest is there for MMA, I think...
I expected this clip to be one second long with Joe Rogan saying "YES"
Hey Joe Dennis alexio was no joke and he was PKA
Tyson's speed is deadly.
A big reason mma is big in the states is cause it was marketed really well, ill never understand why dana decided instead of creating a kick boxing or Muay thai organization he made slap fighting
Mike Tyson in his prime would have destroyed everyone.
Mike could have knocked a army tank outta commission in his prime..
Thing about tyson is that he wud be very open minded to learning different styles too. he loves mma and kickboxing. his favorite fighter is a kickboxer ramon dekkers. a young tyson would be unstoppable if he learned mma or kickboxing
Tyson in his prime could have killed a velociraptor.
We'll never know because they cancelled the fight in Vegas when all the velociraptor's family members came to watch him and snack.
Joe needs to get Benny the Jet on the show. He was the supreme reigning champion kick boxer for over 2 decades.
The guy is a legend who stays humble and out of the limelight.
Benny "the Jet" Urquidez is hands down the GOAT in Kickboxing but since hes American nobody wants to mention him and the true fact that the Dutch style kickboxing was influenced by Urquidez is also not going to be mentioned
I think Mike Tyson in his prime would not only beat any kick boxer but also any MMA heavyweight
Lol no
Until he gets tripped and submitted or gets his chin blasted into orbig by a flying knee during his peek a boo.
Stop. Mike tyson is an icon and a legend but too much. Not saying he doesn't have a chance but c'mon...
@@sambridhathapa4313 I think he's too fast. If he got taken down he would lose but I don't think he would. imagine the damage he would do with four ounce gloves on
@John Small Jones, Silva in his prime and DC would be close fights and of course there's a possibility of them beating him. But the rest would get murdered. Most elite boxers wouldn't stand a chance in an octagon but Tyson is a different animal. His style, defence, strength, and speed would cause any MMA fight massive problems.
Tyson said it best! "Everyone has a plan until they get hit!!"
My dad Mike Steele fought Rick Rufus in the late 1980s. I’m very proud of my dad, Mike “Batman” Steele💪💗💗💗
never heard of your dad but good for him was he from Oklahoma? fought under Dale Cook perhaps?
@@omegasquad868 no we are from Tacoma Washington, our family has been here a long time!!! We even have a Street named after my Dads side of the family Steele Street 😄💪💞💯
Before Cus D'Amato passed away. No one made it to the end with Mike Tyson
When cus dmato passed away mike still hasn't won his 1st world title yet, he was still a year away from winning his first belt and his best was yet to come
@@dirtyjew1974 Nope. I watched every fight. He did things then he stopped after Cus passed. Every fight was a KO.
@@01wwjr well there's a perfectly logical reason for that. one must naturally assume that the competition gets better the closer you get to a title and even better after the title is won. He started off beating guys no ones ever heard of. Top 100 then top 50, then top 20 and eventually top 10 in order to get the title shot. Of course he isn't going to beat the top 10 fighters and champions as easily as he beats the top 100 and journymen lol. After he has the belt everyone he fights is top 10 because they earned the title shot. That's the way this works you know.
@@01wwjr dirtyjew1974 is right. You simply have to look at the level of competition! Tyson was 11-0 while Cus was still alive but the quality of opponents was very low. The best guys didn't want to face Tyson and didn't have to AT THE TIME because Don King pretty much controlled Heavyweight boxing. Tyson was under the management of Bill Cayton and Jim Jacobs, who were struggling to get him good names. So he beat what was in front of him. He didn't face anyone half-decent until David Jaco in his 16th pro fight and then Jesse Ferguson in his 18th. James Tillis and Mitch Green were never going to be KO'd, whoever was in Mike's corner! They were a big step-up from what he'd faced by then and good learning experiences. Not everyone can score KO's every time.
@@TheTruth-pl3mk it's not about a KO its about developing and adding skills to grow. Mike stopped growing after Cus death. It doesn't matter who he fought. If you followed Mike you should know Mitch was knocked out in the street fight they had. You just basically said Cus didn't matter. He wouldn't made a difference. That tells me you know nothing about having true trust with someone. Mike felt invincible because of him. Cus died most of Mike's confadince and trust died with him.
Love watching intelligent people with fight knowledge, throw “Iron Mike” into the equation and they just know “MT” could’ve fucked up any fighter!
I truly respect this conversation.👍🇦🇺🍺
its funny how he used the phrase average joe talking to joe xD
Prime Mike Tyson could do battle with Shaggy
Nice to see down to earth British northerners on the biggest podcast in the world
We all know Mike Tyson is extremely well conditioned, powerful, explosive, fast, has great understanding of range and positioning but we forget that he had a great mental attitude towards training. He was a great student.
absorbing all that he was taught.
If Mike Tyson cared enough and if he had the right trainer he could easily learn, at the very least, how to defend kicks, knees and many kickboxing strategies. The potential to learn how to low kick is there to. Imagine how devastating his low kicks would be!? Couple that with his punches. You got yourself a high level Muay Mat style fighter!
All he would need to do is condition his legs some more for the kicks.
I personally prefer muay thai/kickboxing to just boxing but I can see Tyson defeating kickboxers because hes just tbat good an athlete.
A good, fast, accurate jab and foot speed is the beat Tyson recipe.
Prime Tyson in Bare Knuckle Fighting (BKF).