@@dcgm78 thats not how "bigger" works.. mma fighters dont make more money than boxers coz the promotion gets the biggest chunk.. the biggest boxing ppv of 2020 Wilder vs Fury 2 made about 800k ppv, the ufc had 3 events from 800k to 1mill and 1 event 1.4 mill JUST in 2020.. the ufc holds the top 3 highest gates in New York and Vegas.. mma smoked boxing in every aspect in the last 5 years
@@dcgm78 homie Mike Tyson said it himself that CZcamsrs saved boxing, without them boxing would be almost down the drain and imagine they went to MMA then there would be no boxing
15 years later and boxing is nowhere near as big as ufc today. There are huge boxing fights that everyone tunes in to watch maybe twice a year where ufc has amazing ppv and fight night events almost monthly.
@@mylesteller yep, most casual boxing fans tune in 4-5 times a year. UFC has events every weekend 😂😂😂 and tuesdays on Dana white contenders series has tons of bangers
@@brandonrothsman2665facts. There’s a reason why if you watch any big boxing fight during the main card and prelims the arenas are empty right until the main event nobody wants to watch boring decisions when you watch ufc you get bangers every single. Are there boring fights? Sure I’d be lying if I said no but they have so many great fights that happen. Great example Cub Swanson vs Doo Ho Choi was a prelim main event I believe. It’s now in the UFC hall of fame. I went to my first event last year and was there start to finish and the whole crowd showed up by the first fight (UFC Columbus) literally such a great atmosphere.
This guy is right about one thing. MMA promotions other than the UFC are trash. They may have great fights, but they’re not as huge as the UFC. The UFC is the Google of MMA promotions. They are so big that casuals will refer to MMA as “UFC”
Not really....boxing hasn't exactly been swallowed up like Rogan predicted...I do love MMA but of the 10 biggest PPV events ever, 7 of them are boxing. When a UFC event gets more PPV buys than Mayweather/Pacquiao, I'd say yeah, Rogan was right.
@@ulaytube9953 I don't know... 2 weeks ago, during the Canelo-Kovalev event, MGM Grand literally stopped the event in order to play the Masvidal-Diaz event on the big screen. That was one of the biggest embarrassments the sport of boxing has ever taken. They waited until the Masvidal-Diaz fight was done, in order to start the main event.
The average MMA fighter has amateur level boxing, but the average boxer has no takedown defence. It’s not about who will beat who at what, it just matters who will do better in their own sport.
TKO by leg kick after less than 10 calf or thigh kicks. Or just take them down because boxers can't defend takedowns. Both options are outside a boxer's effective range.
That’s the whole point ufc doesn’t limit fighters to one martial art many biz fighters incorporate many parts of boxing but like Joe said boxing is not everything in a real fight ufc is about who would win a real fight
What a great moment between Joe and Lou at the end. Went at each other for 5 mins each making great points and making some counters, still manage to end in a genuinely warm and friendly way.
@@user-lz2mt5nc9e look in the mirror. If you're going off body language boxing guy clearly wasn't "friendly" with Joe but okay, guess I can read better than you. Didn't say they weren't "friendly" but "warm and friendly" it was not.
@@mythiclegend947 "Warm and friendly" is relative. They ended off a lot warmer and friendlier than during their debate. You clearly thought it was pure sarcasm (which is defined as "use of irony to mock or convey contempt.") when Joe said he loved him and sent him a kiss, but it was clearly just a humorous and friendly gesture which you could easily see in Joe's eyes if you were not incapable of body language.
The moment at 3:00 kills me everytime. Dude literally says you're not a fan and states that he doesn't know the exact thing that Joe said he did not even 5 seconds prior.
When it comes to debates, heckling, outwitting, and trolling other sportscasters, Joe is a trained fighter. He deals with hecklers and idiots for years because of stand up comedy. So easy to see how this guy never stood a chance.
@Kevin C something he was extremely passionate about wasn’t huge yet but growing and it was being attacked so he had to fight back. Now he can relax that it’s a huge sport
@@valdory Joshua is no one compared to Fury lmao. He has no balls to fight top guys and got rekted by Usyk twice then cried like a baby. Usky is like half of his size and he made him cry.
@@supernotnaturalThat doesn’t change the fact that Francis was literally humiliated by the “cry baby”, the only reason he had a chance against Fury it’s cuz Fury didn’t take the fight seriously and didn’t train at all, and now that he got finally a fight against someone who has indeed trained got his ass whopped, it wasn’t even a fight it was just ridiculous to watch Francis…
@@Marc62189funny how boxing fans always highlight that washed old ufc fighters who come to boxing lose yet all boxers are terrified and would never step foot inside of an octagon
@@steviedub9370 Literally had a guy on JRE suggest he wants someone like Dana to buy boxing and make it more like UFC lol peter Berg i think it was Said hes pitched it to Dana tons. he gets a little nuts talking events on the same night double promotion ufc/boxing thats silly. but the idea of boxing just being organized like UFC if possible to achieve would be awesome
@@Rowsy91I saw that. He said “the floor would flip up and turn into a boxing ring from an octagon”. Interesting ideas, prob need for that to happen, as it is kinda dead atm.
@@anthonypaulboswell I thought he had a great idea till he took it that far lol I mean would be a cool ass event but cost so much and wouldn’t be realistic But just having a boxing league so buying up all the organizations and different belts and creating a PBL professional boxing league or pbc if championship is better Then have ppvs once. A month mixed cards could have Crawford fighting one month then next got Joshua and wilder as main event: fury usyk Would take a lot of doing and a LOT of money but it’s possible
12 years later Mayweather is fighting CZcamsr Logan Paul. Mike Tyson and Roy Jones just had an exhibition match. Old legends of the sport the only guys who can bring in the boxing views. UFC still growing exponentially. Boxing slowly dying.
UFC fans have been saying boxing is dying for the past 20 years when their biggest star of all time had to come to boxing for he’s biggest paycheck. I love both sports but boxing will never die. I wish they stopped caring so much about going undefeated in boxing though, that’s what I like about the UFC.. but make no mistake when big boxing fights happen the world stops. They may happen less frequently than UFC fights but when they do happen it tends to be bigger, and that’ll never stop.
Fury/Wilder 2 did 1.2 million PPV buys in February btw. Also ive been an MMA fan for 20 years and this "MMA is growing" thing is so overplayed and inaccurate. MMA peaked in popularity in America around 10 years ago, it has grown somewhat internationally after that but its not anymore popular now globally than it was 5 years ago when Conor and Ronda were there. People dont seem to understand what growth means, nor what dying means.
@@KD-yb4xu You are correct and my original comment didn’t mean it would die at completely. There will always be a market for boxing and certain fights that bring in a big draw. The difference. I watch 30-40 UFC fights a month and an occasional boxing match every month or two.
@@ministryOFmuff UFC is running 20-30 fights weekly... There is always going to be that 1 big boxing match of the year that brings eyes. It isn’t replicated on a weekly or even monthly basis. I love the UFC, watch every weekend, but also tune in for those big annual boxing fights.
@@mchase4 UFC is not running 20-30 fights weekly. It runs around 40 events per year with 10-12 fights per card. why are you making things up? big fights arent replicated on a weekly basis in the UFC either. This weekend is the first proper big card UFC card since the Khabib one in late October. The biggest fights in the 7 weeks (and 6 cards) since then have been Felder/RDA, Glover/Santos, Hall/Silva and Figuereido/Perez. In the same time frame boxing had Spence/Garcia, Crawford/Brook, Joyce/Dubois, Tank/LSC and Tyson/RJJ. The UFCs schedule for the rest of the year has Saturdays big(ish) card and then one more decent card with Aldo and Wonderboy on it, meanwhile in boxing Canelo, AJ and GGG are all fighting this month. Basically, you're making things up and misrepresenting things.
@@FMoss-he1ke Lol yeah, PBC on Fox & Showtime, Top Rank and UK Warren cards on ESPN, Golden Boy and Matchroom on DAZN. "B..b..b...but HBO dropped boxing so it must be dead"
Its so very true what Joe says, boxing is a singular martial art and a very limited form of fighting. Plenty of fighters just tie up in the clinch constantly to avoid the action (makes the fights very boring to watch) which eliminates any threat to them and the referee has to physically seperate them in order for the fight to continue. Sure there are clinches in mma and even fighters who hold opponents against the cage for entire rounds, but they constantly have to worry about knees, elbows, takedowns, footsweeps, trips, strikes off the break etc.
Let's be honest here. Boxing is still more popular than UFC, and I think most people do think boxing is more athetically pleasing. Watching mike tyson punching the souls out of people, is more entertaining than people rolling on the ground.... yes jujutsu's technicality has its appeal, but so is boxing's technicality... but Tyson's knock out is still overall more entertaining for most people. Also there are still a lot more house-hold popular name in boxing than such names in UFC.
@@bohanxu6125 How often does a knockout like that happen though? and even when it does, its usually a big prospect against some bum they're set up to beat
@@bohanxu6125Mike Tyson fought in the 1980s, he was fighting as many as 6 times in a year. Nowadays you’re lucky to squeeze 2 fights annually out of a PPV star. Comparing the Tyson era to modern boxing is a fallacy. Modern boxing is nothing but paper thin fight cards, clinchfests, early stoppages, decisions, and bag chasers, and btw it’s **AESTHETICALLY** pleasing. not “athetically” which isn’t even a real word.
@@bohanxu6125I don't think so bud. Go up to any average person and ask them if they actually watch or care about boxing. There's not even any stars or notable names on boxing, it's all guys that were already big names like 10 years ago. There's no new exciting talent, except for the Paul brothers and THAT is a sad statement of affairs for boxing.
@@hipdrive Yeah Mcgregor who hasnt fought in two and a half years and hasnt won in nearly four. If you compare actual active stars who can win fights at elite level we are talking Jones, Izzy, O'Malley, Volk, Colby, Usman etc vs Canelo, Fury, AJ, Spence, Crawford, Tank, Usyk etc.
The funny thing is he talks way more about boxing on his podcasts than MMA, and is a true boxing fan. Maybe he always was but you don't hear him this passionate about the UFC and MMA anymore, he loves having boxers and boxing personalities on his podcasts and loves talking about boxing way more than MMA.
Joe definitely changed his stance on elbows. He amongst all MMA fans know elbows are awesome and crucial 💪 he was incorrect about boxing having no new celebrities but maybe he was just selling the UFC over boxing here
He's not wrong though, boxings biggest name right now is CZcamsr turned Amateur fighter Jake Paul, throw in a Tyson Fury and a Deontay Wilder and you've reached the limit of the household names boxing has produced since that interview, I've lost count of the amount of UFC household names we know since that interview so I'll just go Ronda Rousy, Amanda Nunez, Connor McGregor and Khabib but that doesn't even scratch the surface
@@rus778 Floyd was known at the time of the interview, since that interview there's only been a handful of boxers known outside of hardcore boxing enthusiast circles
@@DJones-uk3hg They only UFC household name is McGregor. Nobody who isn't a MMA fan would be able to name many, if any, others. Conor McGregor is also more famous for his big mouth rather than his actual fights. Nobody outside of MMA or combat sports fans knows who the fuck Khabib or Nunez are dude get real lmao.
@@FernandoGonzalez-tu8vn people don't know the difference between race and nationality. So many idiots on the internet. Also, back then most fans were white americans, you know why? because the UFC is an american company...
The_red_ barron and sure a boxer has power but don’t forget fighters take way more punishment in mma so they are alot tougher a boxer couldn’t do much even if you have a good boxer
@@the_red_barron1002 im more of a boxing fan then I am a ufc fan and even I think that statement is fucking retarded Most ufc guys are black belts and sub mission expert's and some animal mo fuckers, thats why you wouldn't see the likes of floyd get into a cage
@@sphinxanime6823 I think you were meaning to say MMA. Regardless, doesnt change the fact that 90% of the fanbase was white until relatively recent history. I know, I was there.
I remember being at the barbershop years ago and my barber talking about what Joe Rogan said. JR is correct it is much more exciting than boxing it just is. I doubt the sport of boxing disappears it will probably just be 2nd to MMA for the rest of time though.
"we messed up our sport on our own" -DiBella said the quiet part out loud. Things have been getting better and 2023 so far has been and is outlooked to be a great year for the sport. UFC on the other hand has been absolutely killing it and their consistency and rate at which they produce massive fights I believe is what made boxing promoters get off their ass and finally make the fights that the fans want to see happen. I'm looking forward to July 29, massive day for combat sports as a whole. ESJ vs. Crawford and UFC 291.
@@30h5tillimdead never said that I just don't claim stupid shit ad being savage... I acknowledge actually savagery as someone who like kills ppl n shit not someone who says he's doesn't own shit? What lol like how is that savage... Joe himself has said way more savage shit
Crazy that a decade later both of them were right and wrong😂 Joe saying no new stars would rise in boxing: Ryan Garcia, tank, Canelo, Pac-Man etc. and Lou saying the ufc had a monopoly over the mma scene and now there’s a huge class action lawsuit against them for that specific reason
I mean those guys are famous but only to people who actually watch boxing you can know a guy like connor mcgregor and not even watch a single ufc highlight their famous to boxing fans lol
I agree with Joe mostly here with the exception of the fact that there would not be new boxing stars since this interview took place. There’s a lot of great young boxing stars right now. I’m happy to see both MMA and boxing doing so well right now. It’s a great time to be a martial arts fan.
@@josevillalobos663 lmao I'm going to assume you're joking. Only 3 things have made waves in the world of boxing in the last 10 years. Those are: Deontay Wilder, the logan paul ksi match, and conor mcgregor boxing floyd mayweather. One of those is two vloggers boxing each other and the big one is a UFC fighter agreeing to box a scared floyd mayweather. Nobody hates boxing, its alright, but the rampant fixing, cheating, and guys ducking fights against an opponent they're afraid of has all made boxing a tired, played out sport that barely moves the needle. UFC is almost incomprehensibly successful because it's so ahead of the curve. It has some of the best athletes/ martial artists in the world competing in a fresh , multifaceted, dynamic, impressive real fight, and people absolutely love it. Its changing the sports world. Theres a reason why the Fertitta brothers bought the UFC in 2001 for 2 million dollars and then sold it 16 years later for 9 billion dollars. That is absolutely unprecedented. Boxing isn't even remotely close
dylan farnum The only fighter that came close to boxing money is mcgregor. And that was against a boxer. You have the canelos with 365 million dollar deals, the ggg’s 130 million dollar deal, the Ruiz’s, the joshuas with 80 million dollars in a fight. The Garcia’s, the wilders, the fury’s, the Spences, the Crawford, the pacquiao, the mayweathers, etc. And I can go on and on, all of them making double digit millions per fight! While mcgregor the biggest ufc star just got paid 3 million this past Saturday for his fight!!! So how you gonna tell me ufc is bigger? Which one haves more revenue? Revenue comes from popularity, views!
No he didnt... Of course Rogan has a point MMA fighter are more balanced (well not all)... but that didnt make them the best exponents in every aspect of the fight...
there is old money in boxing... boxing is also very political. It will soon be what joe rogan is saying. look at mcgregor vs diaz fights... everyone wanted too see it. now mcgregor and diaz have a bargaining chip to get paid more money. It will soon happen where UFC fighters are making big, big money!!!
maybe to a casual the ufc is the draw. with only like 4 months of really following it and being a fan I knew everyone on ufc 205 and saw all their previous fights. Connor is about to own stock too and that will make a fighters union possible with company benefits and everything. they should be paid way more and get rid of that stupid fucking rebok deal
What speak volumes is amount of PPV buys and if you exclude Floyd, UFC is actually doing better than boxing, considering that it's still very new sport it's massive success.
@I like Potatoes the context of argument is different lol XD but anyways if you wanna talk about money took close to 100 years for boxing to come to this stage
Markyz what is this notion that the older something is the more revenue will be had in said sport ? You do realaize the Canadian football league has been around since the 1900s and those dudes are barely making 60,000-150,000 (top players)grand a year , opposed to their nfl counter parts (a league that is younger) 15,000,000- 50,000,000
Years later and the ufc has turned into the peak of martial arts, no longer just brawlers, but skilled technical jui jujitsu, karate, taekwondo, kickboxers, etc.
So the announcement of a 43 year old whos been retired from serious competition for 5 years having a novetly boxing match is the "final nail in the coffin for boxing". What about when Ali fought a pro wrestler? what about when Larry Holmes came out of retirement to fight Butterbean? what about when Foreman fought 3 random guys in the same night? Btw as stupid as this Logan Paul shit is it'll probably do the biggest PPV numbers of the year in either sport.
Jake Punk needs to box a professional boxer his size or bigger AND WIN before he can start acting like he’s the greatest thing since I sliced bread. Cause right now he’s the worst thing since UNsliced bread.
Joe was right MMA is much bigger than boxing today even growing up not interested in martial arts i only knew mcregor and jon jones as fighters. From boxing i only knew Muhammed Ali and Mike tyson.
😂😂😂😂 canelo is literally all over Michelob Ultra ads all over the US. If the last boxing name you knew was Mike then you were never a boxing fan to begin with. Go outside.
And its not working out very well at all so far. Putting PPV behind a subscription service paywall and not even making the buyrates public anymore. TV ratings the same or lower than they were on friggin Spike in like 2007. Getting on ESPN wasnt all it was cracked up to be.
Yea that is a ridiculous thing to say when comparing the two. Show me 1 guy in the UFC who doesn't have good defence. He would get knocked out or taken down within seconds.
@@taylorpeay8991 If you'd say that you'd be wrong. Tank/Garcia and Bud/Crawford are the two biggest selling PPVs of this year. Educate yourself brother.
Eh I gues u could say that since Crawford vs Spence was a fight that had been in the works for like the past few years , no ufc card has had that long of a holdout 😂 I doubt they’d have another year like this lol but boxing is still fun to watch I just think mma has by far more cards so much more fights to watch other than boxing cards
Joe also is so educated about boxing too. He’s not even being cocky. This guy is hating on ufc and Rogan is keeping a level head. But he has tons of respect for great boxers.
This aged like wine. Joe called it 20+ years ago. Now look @ the UFC and boxing. No one cares about boxing lol, everyone knows who jon jones is, khabib, makachev, chimaev, burns, rampage jackson, ferguson, connor mcgreggor, adesanya etc. UFC is truly the ultimate fighting championship.
Meanwhile back in the real world the three biggest PPV numbers of 2023 so far are Tank/Garcia, Spence/Crawford and Canelo/Charlo, all boxing matches. The biggest attendance of the year is 50k+ for Canelo/Ryder while the biggest UFC attendance of the year is under 20k. PBC alone has done three $20+ million generating live gates this year while the UFC has done that once in its 30 year history, PBC on Fox gets the highest ratings of any combat sports promotion in any America, and Top Rank gets higher ratings the UFC with both of them being on the same network, and the UFC HW champion just walked out to go have a boxing match. Apparently no one cares about boxing though.... Lol @ your list btw. Khabib has been retired for 3 years. Conor hasnt fought since July 2021 and is 1-3 in MMA and 0-1 in boxing since 2017, Rampage Jackson what fucking year is this? Tony Ferguson is on a 6 fight losing streak, everyone knows who Gilbert Burns is apparently lmfao. How about Canelo, AJ, Fury, GGG, Spence, Crawford, Tank, Garcia, Loma, Usyk, Wilder?
@@kingkezz9188 I just gave you objective easily checkable factual information and your response is to repeat "no one cares". Break the UFC kool aid conditioning brother lol.
@@kingkezz9188"literally no one cares about boxing". Tell that to the 4 million people when Mayweather fought Pacquiao. I think both sports are phenomenal but boxing right now is more popular.
This video was posted 14 years ago.... and my original comment and one from 3 years ago is still dead on. lol.... Although it's scary to think all the time that has passed, I look forward to checking back 3 years from now.... And, mark my words, boxing will both still be around. There are even more fighters on the rise now than when Floyd and Pac's era ended..... And, despite UFC's cash cows being out of the picture for quite some time, mma is still healthy..... Neither will sink in our lifetime, regardless what happens.
@@navajo237 Your comment sounded like you got jumpy thats why i said what i said lol anywho I understand Conor likes money nothing wrong with that but Mayweather talked about getting into the octagon twice but he never did thats what IM talking about, im frustrated cause id love to see Mayweather challenge his skills in the octagon
@@navajo237 Conor got a tko because he gassed out correct me when im wrong but don't boxers usually wait until the later rounds in order to go all out? To try to gas the other one out?
I think the boxer might actually have a better chance in a street fight because boxing is quick, simple and clean. Almost like comparing a 5.56 to a 7.62.
He made an idiot of himself. Notice when he says there will be no new stars after the guys that were big then the names he mentions are Oscar De La Hoya, Bernard Hopkins and Jermain Taylor. You know why? because Floyd and Manny blew up after the interview lmao. But sure, it aged so well.
@@ericgalvez7143 Yeah literally two of the biggest boxing stars ever. Who fought each other in the biggest drawing PPV fight of all time. Then after them Canelo, GGG, Loma, Joshua etc blew up too and MMA STILL hasnt swallowed boxing 11 years later. Aged so well! lol. Btw Rogan himself talks about boxing regularly on his podcast these days and recently had both Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder on there. A few years back he even admitted that the UFC instructed him to say that stuff in this interview and he didnt even agree with it himself.
@@Alec-wm7tf White America is not the world. Also your "you hear about these names because you watch boxing" and "everyone forgets about boxing until the next fight" ALSO APPLIES TO MMA. The average person that doesnt follow MMA only knows Conor, and Conors biggest ever PPV buys (by far) and exposure came from a boxing match. Nobody really gives a shit about MMA when Conor isnt fighting, and hes had one MMA fight in the last two years. As for HBO, they folded because their competitors put them out of business and presumably because they wanted to focus on entertainment shows rather than sports. Floyd left them for Showtime in 2013, Top Rank left them for ESPN in 2017 and Canelo left them for DAZN not long before they decided they were quitting. MMA fans wanna gloat about it and make it seem like HBO cancelled because nobody is watching boxing anymore, when in reality boxing still pulls in slightly higher overall ratings - even HBO in its final year was doing comparable ratings to the UFC. Its kinda like how MMA fans are doing the whole "we got an ESPN deal" thing seemingly unaware that boxing is already on ESPN...
There is also part of mma that dont work in a streetfight like we could punch wrestler in the back of the head when they try to catch us, bite them when they do catch us or shits like that.
@@Opomax I agree. It's basically inevitable to have someone in the UFC die at some point. MMA fighters in other promotions have died from damage caused by a fight and from complications caused by dangerous weight cutting methods.
@Don Jon @Don Jon Oh really and when did Boxing start? Compare that with MMA, it takes time to create a fanbase like boxing. Boxing is doing better but it's numbers are going down. Not sure why you think that is a valid argument. I only watched boxing from 2000 till 2017. Then I discovered MMA. I stopped with boxing completely, martial arts is so much more than only boxing.
@Don Jon I see your point but you are to focused on here and now. MMA still will grow many people like me didn't know orgs like UFC exist. MMA has still allot of time and it doesn't really need stars I'm talking about martial arts in general is just more exciting to watch than only a small portion of martial arts like boxing.
Conveniently ignoring that Floyd/Manny did 5 million and Floyd/Conor did 4.3 million. Also conveniently ignoring that 229 was the first UFC card in 2 years to break a million PPV buys while boxing did it 4 times in 2017 and 3 this year.
ministryOFmuff You are mentioning 2 of the biggest boxing Ppv’s one including a mma athlete. And I am not saying boxing isn’t bigger than mma but the gap is very small nowadays and everyone pretty much agrees that mma will take over
+AlexinhoFCB Yeah and you are talking about the biggest MMA event ever by a lot lol. The previous biggest was the Conor/Diaz 2 card which did 1.6 million. The only people that think MMA will "take over" are those that live in an MMA bubble in America and dont pay any attention to boxing. Ive been an MMA fan for nearly 20 years and people have been saying its taking over the entire time. At the end of the day both have their ups and downs, some years the UFC does better business, some years boxing does. Boxing isnt going to just disappear and be replaced, the two co exist.
ministryOFmuff I am talking about the biggest event because it’s an Update xd I also think it’s a big step up for the mma world. Even my parents heard about the fight and I’m form Europe where fights are like at 5am and for free XD I still think it’s going to take over the masses but we will see how it turns out
@@ministryOFmuff u live in a boxing bubble then. Boxing has been dying for years MMA is going the other way. More popular. And MMA is huge around the world too. Mma is just a diff beast
The UFC was so smart for getting Joe to represent them 😂😂
No Frank n Lorenzo were smart for letting Joe be the face lol. T
I’m a fan of joe, but he was wrong about ufc taking over boxing. The average boxer makes more than the top ufc fighters still today.
@@dcgm78 yes but UFC is bigger
@@dcgm78 thats not how "bigger" works.. mma fighters dont make more money than boxers coz the promotion gets the biggest chunk.. the biggest boxing ppv of 2020 Wilder vs Fury 2 made about 800k ppv, the ufc had 3 events from 800k to 1mill and 1 event 1.4 mill JUST in 2020.. the ufc holds the top 3 highest gates in New York and Vegas.. mma smoked boxing in every aspect in the last 5 years
@@dcgm78 homie Mike Tyson said it himself that CZcamsrs saved boxing, without them boxing would be almost down the drain and imagine they went to MMA then there would be no boxing
Rogan didnt even disrespect boxing and still won the arguement 😂
He even blew a kiss
He’s the best hahahahaha
Lou was the worst person for the argument that’s why lol
because joe understand you can love both boxing and mma. i believe he is a boxing fan too because he is very knowledgeable about boxing in his podcast
He disrespected boxing. Watch the whole thing
This guy knows his stuff. He should make a podcast.
I think he did
@@bertyz2463na really?
@@joeyyssh oioiiiiiiii
@@bertyz2463slave
HAHAHA GREAT JOKE
15 years later and boxing is nowhere near as big as ufc today. There are huge boxing fights that everyone tunes in to watch maybe twice a year where ufc has amazing ppv and fight night events almost monthly.
Even on the regular fight nights that aren't ppv still be lit af !
@@mylesteller yep, most casual boxing fans tune in 4-5 times a year. UFC has events every weekend 😂😂😂 and tuesdays on Dana white contenders series has tons of bangers
@brandonrothsman2665 facts tho!! It's literally a fight for us every week lol
@@brandonrothsman2665facts. There’s a reason why if you watch any big boxing fight during the main card and prelims the arenas are empty right until the main event nobody wants to watch boring decisions when you watch ufc you get bangers every single. Are there boring fights? Sure I’d be lying if I said no but they have so many great fights that happen. Great example Cub Swanson vs Doo Ho Choi was a prelim main event I believe. It’s now in the UFC hall of fame. I went to my first event last year and was there start to finish and the whole crowd showed up by the first fight (UFC Columbus) literally such a great atmosphere.
This guy is right about one thing. MMA promotions other than the UFC are trash. They may have great fights, but they’re not as huge as the UFC.
The UFC is the Google of MMA promotions. They are so big that casuals will refer to MMA as “UFC”
This aged like a fine wine
Not really....boxing hasn't exactly been swallowed up like Rogan predicted...I do love MMA but of the 10 biggest PPV events ever, 7 of them are boxing. When a UFC event gets more PPV buys than Mayweather/Pacquiao, I'd say yeah, Rogan was right.
@@ulaytube9953 I don't know... 2 weeks ago, during the Canelo-Kovalev event, MGM Grand literally stopped the event in order to play the Masvidal-Diaz event on the big screen. That was one of the biggest embarrassments the sport of boxing has ever taken. They waited until the Masvidal-Diaz fight was done, in order to start the main event.
浅野弥助 yeah it was an agreement
@@kesuya masvidal made 500,000. Canelo made 35 million
juan nunez it wasn’t an agreement 😂
“You don’t understand the science of fighting” he says to the man with two black belts
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Bjj, taikwond,o and kick boxing
@@Whoop69 kickboxing is a sport, there aren't belts in it
@@manuelsalcedo8351 there are belts in kickboxen fool
@@lolic4712 no there aren't, kickboxing is a sport. If a gim has a belt sistem is for money
The average MMA fighter has amateur level boxing, but the average boxer has no takedown defence. It’s not about who will beat who at what, it just matters who will do better in their own sport.
You can literally sweep a boxer off his feet with a low kick
Mma fighters will beat the f out of boxers in actual fights.
nah, the sport of mma meant a sport that see what win a fight
TKO by leg kick after less than 10 calf or thigh kicks. Or just take them down because boxers can't defend takedowns. Both options are outside a boxer's effective range.
That’s the whole point ufc doesn’t limit fighters to one martial art many biz fighters incorporate many parts of boxing but like Joe said boxing is not everything in a real fight ufc is about who would win a real fight
Would love to see 2023 version of this interview
This guy had 0% clue who he was talking to.
It’s literally the dmt guy *~*
He was probably thinking...."why am I talking to the guy from NewsRadio on SportsCenter?"
@MUFC Please, just one thing. It's football u know It not soccer.
MUFC hey dumbfuck they’re talking about real sports mma and boxing.
MUFC bro soccer is my fav sport but we are talking combat sports
That ufc dude should get his own podcast or something
no way dude it would suck, a bad experience
Nah
I’m so sick of seeing this lame ass recycled joke in every Joe Rogan video that isn’t a JRE clip. Come up with something original fucking nerd.
Lamar Scrotum u mad
Liam Christie sure, Liam. Whatever you say.
What a great moment between Joe and Lou at the end. Went at each other for 5 mins each making great points and making some counters, still manage to end in a genuinely warm and friendly way.
lmao I feel like Lou was lowkey salty and ready to stop getting wrecked by Joe at the end
Genuinely warm and friendly? Lol You don't get the concept of sarcasm very much, do you? 😂
@@mythiclegend947 Of course it was friendly, you must be incapable of reading body language.
@@user-lz2mt5nc9e look in the mirror. If you're going off body language boxing guy clearly wasn't "friendly" with Joe but okay, guess I can read better than you. Didn't say they weren't "friendly" but "warm and friendly" it was not.
@@mythiclegend947 "Warm and friendly" is relative. They ended off a lot warmer and friendlier than during their debate. You clearly thought it was pure sarcasm (which is defined as "use of irony to mock or convey contempt.") when Joe said he loved him and sent him a kiss, but it was clearly just a humorous and friendly gesture which you could easily see in Joe's eyes if you were not incapable of body language.
aged like fine wine
UFC is trash kid
Lou really said “young white guys” as if MMA isn’t the second biggest sport in Brazil
And without even looking at the stats, I’d wager that at least 50% of champions in the history of the UFC are people of colour...
@@ck867 probably even more because in the ufc are more black, south american, and latin fighters who really dominate the sport for a time.
MMA isn’t the second sport here in Brasil. Dont say shit you dont know
@@tarihanchaveiromartins7233 i believe it was just an exaggeration lmao
@@garrendannish9722 just south American others no.
But has Boxing ever tried DMT?
Blue Leopard lol
ufc is boxing on dmt lolol
Blue Leopard u suck
Mike Tyson has some wicked stories about DMT
Blue Leopard i bet it hasnt!!! It totally should
The moment at 3:00 kills me everytime.
Dude literally says you're not a fan and states that he doesn't know the exact thing that Joe said he did not even 5 seconds prior.
Joe spoke like a prophet of fighting in 2023 😂
Yeah the two biggest PPV fights of the year so far are boxing matches. What a prophet.
“You’re not a fan of boxing”....... “Of course I’m a fan, Jamie, bring up that clip”
😂😂
😂😂😂
It's entirey possible, it does happen sometimes
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Perfect
Joe snorted some alpha brain before this. He was on another level.
When it comes to debates, heckling, outwitting, and trolling other sportscasters, Joe is a trained fighter. He deals with hecklers and idiots for years because of stand up comedy. So easy to see how this guy never stood a chance.
Joe just seems to thrive when he's confronting people.
@Kevin C like a pro fighter when you see it daybin day in day out after years and years (with the podcast and stand up) you loose that bite.
@Kevin C something he was extremely passionate about wasn’t huge yet but growing and it was being attacked so he had to fight back. Now he can relax that it’s a huge sport
No broo, he just knows the facts!
This is a gem. How have I not seen this?
This aged like wine after today's Francis VS Fury fight
This aged well to 😂
@@valdory Joshua is no one compared to Fury lmao. He has no balls to fight top guys and got rekted by Usyk twice then cried like a baby. Usky is like half of his size and he made him cry.
@@supernotnaturalThat doesn’t change the fact that Francis was literally humiliated by the “cry baby”, the only reason he had a chance against Fury it’s cuz Fury didn’t take the fight seriously and didn’t train at all, and now that he got finally a fight against someone who has indeed trained got his ass whopped, it wasn’t even a fight it was just ridiculous to watch Francis…
@@Marc62189funny how boxing fans always highlight that washed old ufc fighters who come to boxing lose yet all boxers are terrified and would never step foot inside of an octagon
2008 Joe Rogan "I don't even own my car," 2022 Joe Rogan "Maybe I should buy boxing."
Joe Rogan been around since the 90s & fear factor was huge & he was making money with comedy & commentary, he definitely has money
Had*
@@steviedub9370 Literally had a guy on JRE suggest he wants someone like Dana to buy boxing and make it more like UFC lol peter Berg i think it was
Said hes pitched it to Dana tons. he gets a little nuts talking events on the same night double promotion ufc/boxing thats silly. but the idea of boxing just being organized like UFC if possible to achieve would be awesome
@@Rowsy91I saw that. He said “the floor would flip up and turn into a boxing ring from an octagon”. Interesting ideas, prob need for that to happen, as it is kinda dead atm.
@@anthonypaulboswell I thought he had a great idea till he took it that far lol I mean would be a cool ass event but cost so much and wouldn’t be realistic
But just having a boxing league so buying up all the organizations and different belts and creating a PBL professional boxing league or pbc if championship is better
Then have ppvs once. A month mixed cards could have Crawford fighting one month then next got Joshua and wilder as main event: fury usyk
Would take a lot of doing and a LOT of money but it’s possible
12 years later Mayweather is fighting CZcamsr Logan Paul. Mike Tyson and Roy Jones just had an exhibition match. Old legends of the sport the only guys who can bring in the boxing views. UFC still growing exponentially. Boxing slowly dying.
UFC fans have been saying boxing is dying for the past 20 years when their biggest star of all time had to come to boxing for he’s biggest paycheck. I love both sports but boxing will never die. I wish they stopped caring so much about going undefeated in boxing though, that’s what I like about the UFC.. but make no mistake when big boxing fights happen the world stops. They may happen less frequently than UFC fights but when they do happen it tends to be bigger, and that’ll never stop.
Fury/Wilder 2 did 1.2 million PPV buys in February btw. Also ive been an MMA fan for 20 years and this "MMA is growing" thing is so overplayed and inaccurate. MMA peaked in popularity in America around 10 years ago, it has grown somewhat internationally after that but its not anymore popular now globally than it was 5 years ago when Conor and Ronda were there. People dont seem to understand what growth means, nor what dying means.
@@KD-yb4xu You are correct and my original comment didn’t mean it would die at completely. There will always be a market for boxing and certain fights that bring in a big draw. The difference. I watch 30-40 UFC fights a month and an occasional boxing match every month or two.
@@ministryOFmuff UFC is running 20-30 fights weekly... There is always going to be that 1 big boxing match of the year that brings eyes. It isn’t replicated on a weekly or even monthly basis. I love the UFC, watch every weekend, but also tune in for those big annual boxing fights.
@@mchase4 UFC is not running 20-30 fights weekly. It runs around 40 events per year with 10-12 fights per card. why are you making things up? big fights arent replicated on a weekly basis in the UFC either. This weekend is the first proper big card UFC card since the Khabib one in late October. The biggest fights in the 7 weeks (and 6 cards) since then have been Felder/RDA, Glover/Santos, Hall/Silva and Figuereido/Perez. In the same time frame boxing had Spence/Garcia, Crawford/Brook, Joyce/Dubois, Tank/LSC and Tyson/RJJ. The UFCs schedule for the rest of the year has Saturdays big(ish) card and then one more decent card with Aldo and Wonderboy on it, meanwhile in boxing Canelo, AJ and GGG are all fighting this month.
Basically, you're making things up and misrepresenting things.
Wish we could do this interview between them two again today in 2023.
11 years later and Floyd still never dared to step foot in an octagon
but an mma fight stepped into the ring with floyd🤷🏼♂️
Imagine how bad Floyd would get destroyed by someone like khabib or mighty mouse if they were all the same weight class
he would get choked out so badly, he would want his own protests.
Smart
And if any mma fighter fought Floyd he’ would get ko’d
10 years later UFC is on ESPN
Boxing is on fox
F. Moss and DAZN
@@FMoss-he1ke Lol yeah, PBC on Fox & Showtime, Top Rank and UK Warren cards on ESPN, Golden Boy and Matchroom on DAZN.
"B..b..b...but HBO dropped boxing so it must be dead"
@@ministryOFmuff hbo had no more fighters... it ali started when mayweather left for showtime sports....
Bhargo van der Bharwa So is MMA though. People are forgetting about the other organizations. UFC isn’t the only game in town.
Its so very true what Joe says, boxing is a singular martial art and a very limited form of fighting. Plenty of fighters just tie up in the clinch constantly to avoid the action (makes the fights very boring to watch) which eliminates any threat to them and the referee has to physically seperate them in order for the fight to continue. Sure there are clinches in mma and even fighters who hold opponents against the cage for entire rounds, but they constantly have to worry about knees, elbows, takedowns, footsweeps, trips, strikes off the break etc.
Let's be honest here. Boxing is still more popular than UFC, and I think most people do think boxing is more athetically pleasing. Watching mike tyson punching the souls out of people, is more entertaining than people rolling on the ground.... yes jujutsu's technicality has its appeal, but so is boxing's technicality... but Tyson's knock out is still overall more entertaining for most people.
Also there are still a lot more house-hold popular name in boxing than such names in UFC.
Two words... Francis ngannou, you don't need boxings limited ruleset to have devastating knockout punches.
@@bohanxu6125 How often does a knockout like that happen though? and even when it does, its usually a big prospect against some bum they're set up to beat
@@bohanxu6125Mike Tyson fought in the 1980s, he was fighting as many as 6 times in a year. Nowadays you’re lucky to squeeze 2 fights annually out of a PPV star. Comparing the Tyson era to modern boxing is a fallacy. Modern boxing is nothing but paper thin fight cards, clinchfests, early stoppages, decisions, and bag chasers, and btw it’s **AESTHETICALLY** pleasing. not “athetically” which isn’t even a real word.
@@bohanxu6125I don't think so bud. Go up to any average person and ask them if they actually watch or care about boxing. There's not even any stars or notable names on boxing, it's all guys that were already big names like 10 years ago. There's no new exciting talent, except for the Paul brothers and THAT is a sad statement of affairs for boxing.
i love how at the end they both end on a pretty good note
I want to see these two guys talk again today in 2018.
So do I 😂
The boxing guy is probably begging Joe Rogan for a spot in the UFC comantator table because there's no more money in boxing XD
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anthony andresen
Joe 'oh how attitudes have changed' Rogan.
czcams.com/video/7gzdZodt7jY/video.html
I think the boxing guy would settle for a 1.5 hour interview on JRE. Could revitalise his career, for a time.
@@Jake-cy7to Any proof for your claim that theres no money in boxing?
For this interview alone Dana should pay him a million dollars.
He’s richer than Dana
Ayuub Ali no he’s not. He sold UFC for 4 billion dollars few years back. I’m sure he’s much richer now.
@@ayuubali864 No one who has anything to do with the UFC is richer than Dana White.
@@SamaelVR Joe rogan made from Spotify idiot
@@kdn1675 dana is still richer idiot
Joe was right. There were no new boxing stars. No Bud Crawford, no Tyson Fury, no Anthony Joshua, no Canelo Alvarez. Joe nailed it.
That was a stupid comment from Joe, As long as there’s talent coming through there will always be new stars.
Normies dont know those names, EVERYONE knows who mcgregor is
@@hipdrive Yeah Mcgregor who hasnt fought in two and a half years and hasnt won in nearly four. If you compare actual active stars who can win fights at elite level we are talking Jones, Izzy, O'Malley, Volk, Colby, Usman etc vs Canelo, Fury, AJ, Spence, Crawford, Tank, Usyk etc.
Canelo was around when this was made. Pretty sure so was fury.
@@ministryOFmuff
That's a completely irrelevant statement. Many of the people you named aren't known to people who don't watch combat sports
Joe was wrong about MMA swallowing Boxing and there not being any more famous boxers.
The funny thing is he talks way more about boxing on his podcasts than MMA, and is a true boxing fan. Maybe he always was but you don't hear him this passionate about the UFC and MMA anymore, he loves having boxers and boxing personalities on his podcasts and loves talking about boxing way more than MMA.
This is when ESPN was good, now it’s just Stephen A wearing a cowboy hat screaming at everyone.
Zechariah Wermuth I know right? ESPN is not worth watching anymore
Triggered Cowboy fan
the weeeeeeeedaaah
UFC is on ESPN now...
You just a salty cowboy fan
Joe “You don’t know me, and you don’t know what I’m a fan of” Rogan.
who's Joe?
The Tiger Legionnaire joe from family guy
@@Joshua_23 Joe mama
The Tiger Legionnaire - just some guy who is a comedian, actor, host, sports caster, and owns the number one podcast in the world. That’s all.
Joe definitely changed his stance on elbows. He amongst all MMA fans know elbows are awesome and crucial 💪 he was incorrect about boxing having no new celebrities but maybe he was just selling the UFC over boxing here
He's not wrong though, boxings biggest name right now is CZcamsr turned Amateur fighter Jake Paul, throw in a Tyson Fury and a Deontay Wilder and you've reached the limit of the household names boxing has produced since that interview, I've lost count of the amount of UFC household names we know since that interview so I'll just go Ronda Rousy, Amanda Nunez, Connor McGregor and Khabib but that doesn't even scratch the surface
Early days too before we knew what elbows really did 😂
@@DJones-uk3hg love how you mentioned everyone except the biggest draw in boxing
@@rus778 Floyd was known at the time of the interview, since that interview there's only been a handful of boxers known outside of hardcore boxing enthusiast circles
@@DJones-uk3hg They only UFC household name is McGregor. Nobody who isn't a MMA fan would be able to name many, if any, others. Conor McGregor is also more famous for his big mouth rather than his actual fights. Nobody outside of MMA or combat sports fans knows who the fuck Khabib or Nunez are dude get real lmao.
They should do a follow up interview with both of them 😂😂
Joe Rogan: "I don't agree that elbows are a very important part of the sport"
*Jon Jones has entered the chat*
*Tony Ferguson enters the octagon*
Moss Linden jon jones has entered the ess my dee
Jon "Eye Poke" Jones!
MidLaneMain mans got knifes as elbows
It was a joke, I'm clean!!! Why would you ask me when you could just google it 😂.
To make your comment bold, put it between asterisks.
“Young white guys” have you seen the stadiums in Brazil?
@@FernandoGonzalez-tu8vn people don't know the difference between race and nationality. So many idiots on the internet. Also, back then most fans were white americans, you know why? because the UFC is an american company...
Pablo S facts
@@FernandoGonzalez-tu8vn Thank u!
Like half of Brazil is white
"White" in Brazil has a much different meaning than it does in the US and Canada.
This never gets old
It got old
I didn’t even know these conversation were being had wayyyy back when! Very nicce to come across this.
“Young white guys”
I feel so attacked
Fredo and hes white
@@carlostrump9076 don't say that word it's an ethnic slur like the n word to black people.
Wubaa Maheab yeah but it isn’t used to condescend a whole race of people
#metoo
@@floridaboydreww instead it's used to condescend a whole gender
2008 : joe was right
2019 : joe is still right
Saeed Karajah Joe rogan evolved from a meat head ufc douchbag to talking more about boxing on his podcast than mma
@@Artistboxing he was always a boxing fan
Saeed Karajah joe was wrong in 2008 but 2019 he’s right
Not exactly, boxing is still larger and probably will always be larger as people don’t keep up with UFC like they do boxing
Boxing is by far still more popular than ufc what world do u live in
What Joe said aged like fine wine.
"You guys are a dying breed" couldn't have said it better myself
Yep slowly falling off. If they have the best fight the best and change how stuff works boxing will be back again. Hope it does.
Boxing still has a much bigger talent pool than MMA and they're still paid much better, so 16 years later, how are they a dying breed?
Def not. Kamaru calling out Canelo, Sean O'Malley calling out Tank Davis, Francis Ngannou fighting Tyson Fury. Boxing is still the top $$$$ earner
Lol that boxing guy wasn’t ready for joe
GMF well i don’t see how a boxing fan would win a argument about fighting against a mma guy
@@captainoblivionthicc1004 a boxer would knockout a UFC in seconds
The_red_ barron in your dreams indeed
The_red_ barron and sure a boxer has power but don’t forget fighters take way more punishment in mma so they are alot tougher a boxer couldn’t do much even if you have a good boxer
@@the_red_barron1002 im more of a boxing fan then I am a ufc fan and even I think that statement is fucking retarded
Most ufc guys are black belts and sub mission expert's and some animal mo fuckers, thats why you wouldn't see the likes of floyd get into a cage
“Young white Guys” wtf why not just young guys lmao
SPHINX ANIME Fr lmao
Tbf, back then probably 90+% of the UFCs audience was indeed white guys.
ministryOFmuff that is false even back then some of the biggest names in boxing weren’t even white
@@sphinxanime6823 I think you were meaning to say MMA. Regardless, doesnt change the fact that 90% of the fanbase was white until relatively recent history. I know, I was there.
ministryOFmuff lmao all cap no you weren’t
Props to the interviewer for letting Joe speak
This aged so well.
Lou: UFC is gonna fail; boxing is the most exciting and best combat sport
Joe: That’s crazy bro, have you ever tried DMT?
Nate and Noah Entertainment how original
He hasn't brought dmt in ten years
Nate and Noah Entertainment thank you for letting my eyes see this
Boyd Bouf anything for you
Thomas Downing I highly doubt that
let’s be honest Floyd trying to flex like he wouldn’t get absolutely destroyed by any UFC fighter was hillarous.
He beat the fuck out of Connor lol
@@wavyhugo871 in boxing . Any boxer would get destroyed in mma. If it goes to the ground.
@@ThePeep777 boxing is a real sport, requires real skill, I know the ufc does too but it’s no where near
@@wavyhugo871 Do boxers know how to defend takedowns or submit people? Or throw a proper kick?
@@H.K.5 probably not cause they’re boxers 😂😂 boxers make more money for a reason if the UFC was better then why do UFC guys come on over to boxing
I remember being at the barbershop years ago and my barber talking about what Joe Rogan said. JR is correct it is much more exciting than boxing it just is. I doubt the sport of boxing disappears it will probably just be 2nd to MMA for the rest of time though.
"we messed up our sport on our own" -DiBella said the quiet part out loud. Things have been getting better and 2023 so far has been and is outlooked to be a great year for the sport. UFC on the other hand has been absolutely killing it and their consistency and rate at which they produce massive fights I believe is what made boxing promoters get off their ass and finally make the fights that the fans want to see happen. I'm looking forward to July 29, massive day for combat sports as a whole. ESJ vs. Crawford and UFC 291.
Looking back from now they had no idea they’d be one day merging fighting events between the two sports
Lou - "YOU'RE NOT A FAN OF BOXING!!!!"
Joe - "That's crazy. Have you done DMT?"
Joe has never said that
@@caspercasper5413 you don't get it
Delete your comment man 🤦♂️
@@caspercasper5413 delete this comment
@@antonioalfonso6206 show me a video where he actually says that phrase
4:29 "I don't own anything dude. I lease my car. I don't even own my house, i have a mortgage".
Oh how times have changed.
He changed the subject UFC did own pride and we’re buying out competition.
Spotify's 100 milli baby
I wonder what Lou Di Bella thinks about UFC now. I used to hate Fights that go to the ground now I am a Khabib fan lol
50 Gs baaaaaabyyyy
He was rich even then
"i dont believe elbows is an important part of the sport"
JON JONES HAS ENTERED THE CHAT
Boxing and Jiu Jitsu are both corner stones of fighting. Mad respect for both, and that's why I do both.
Joe "you dont know me." Rogan
Joe “You not thinking, cause of the heefer, Joe Hogan” Rogan
Joe "insert anything I said in the clip" Rogan
@@AkamapD im coming for you boi
Kamaru Usman Sit yo ass down junior
"Dude I don't own anything, I lease my car, I don't even own my house I pay a mortgage" LMAO!!!!
Joe Rogan is a savage
I'm a rogan fan but how is that savage lol
BrokinLaw33 Because everything is savage to kids these days
@@30h5tillimdead or ur just a pussy
@@30h5tillimdead never said that I just don't claim stupid shit ad being savage... I acknowledge actually savagery as someone who like kills ppl n shit not someone who says he's doesn't own shit? What lol like how is that savage... Joe himself has said way more savage shit
@@30h5tillimdead I don't care what the fuck u asked go to bed kid
Man this was so fun😂😂
Crazy that a decade later both of them were right and wrong😂 Joe saying no new stars would rise in boxing: Ryan Garcia, tank, Canelo, Pac-Man etc. and Lou saying the ufc had a monopoly over the mma scene and now there’s a huge class action lawsuit against them for that specific reason
I mean those guys are famous but only to people who actually watch boxing you can know a guy like connor mcgregor and not even watch a single ufc highlight their famous to boxing fans lol
@coolguychapman6685 everyone knows who tyson fury is, hes a huge star🤷
@@carlitor4173people who don’t watch boxing and don’t live inside the UK literally have no clue who Tyson fury is
@@morganwartman8507 utter and absoulte, bollox
@morganwartman8507 he's has his own netflix show, been a guest on joe rogan had multiple best selling books and documentary's you are talking nonsense
After joe blew lou a kiss he looked over at Jamie and said "pull that up"
😂😂😂😂
Ded 🤣💀💀💀
Joe is the man
lol
Ohh I get it, because he says that to Jamie often, I get it. You should do stand up bruh
This is so 2008 it's hilarious.
Damn felt like 2000
@@CEOofSleep that's because 2008 wasn't ready to leave 2000
Felt like 1990s to me
Bi11y Sounds weird hearing this stop please
@@SilentNinjaaa LOL this is true. There was still kind of a late 90s vibe even in the late 00s tbh.
Love this interview joe did UFC/mma justice
I agree with Joe mostly here with the exception of the fact that there would not be new boxing stars since this interview took place. There’s a lot of great young boxing stars right now. I’m happy to see both MMA and boxing doing so well right now. It’s a great time to be a martial arts fan.
All I’m tracking is tank Davis and Ryan… other than that I think of Jake and Logan when boxing is brought up. UFC and PFL will take over.
Oh yeah? Name five…
@@neverstaydown3947 Since this interview came out? Tank Davis, Ryan Garcia, Devin Haney, Tyson fury, Anthony Joshua. Plenty more as well.
Joe should have this guy on his podcast today
Tommy Noble for what? To be embarrassed again? Boxing is still miles above ufc
@@josevillalobos663 lol, did you watch the video?
jose villalobos the fact that KSI Logan draw more than Ruiz Joshua shows how died boxing is
@@josevillalobos663 lmao I'm going to assume you're joking. Only 3 things have made waves in the world of boxing in the last 10 years. Those are: Deontay Wilder, the logan paul ksi match, and conor mcgregor boxing floyd mayweather. One of those is two vloggers boxing each other and the big one is a UFC fighter agreeing to box a scared floyd mayweather. Nobody hates boxing, its alright, but the rampant fixing, cheating, and guys ducking fights against an opponent they're afraid of has all made boxing a tired, played out sport that barely moves the needle. UFC is almost incomprehensibly successful because it's so ahead of the curve. It has some of the best athletes/ martial artists in the world competing in a fresh , multifaceted, dynamic, impressive real fight, and people absolutely love it. Its changing the sports world. Theres a reason why the Fertitta brothers bought the UFC in 2001 for 2 million dollars and then sold it 16 years later for 9 billion dollars. That is absolutely unprecedented. Boxing isn't even remotely close
dylan farnum
The only fighter that came close to boxing money is mcgregor. And that was against a boxer. You have the canelos with 365 million dollar deals, the ggg’s 130 million dollar deal, the Ruiz’s, the joshuas with 80 million dollars in a fight. The Garcia’s, the wilders, the fury’s, the Spences, the Crawford, the pacquiao, the mayweathers, etc. And I can go on and on, all of them making double digit millions per fight! While mcgregor the biggest ufc star just got paid 3 million this past Saturday for his fight!!! So how you gonna tell me ufc is bigger? Which one haves more revenue? Revenue comes from popularity, views!
Rogan verbally assassinated that dude wow!!
No he didnt... Of course Rogan has a point MMA fighter are more balanced (well not all)... but that didnt make them the best exponents in every aspect of the fight...
there is old money in boxing... boxing is also very political. It will soon be what joe rogan is saying. look at mcgregor vs diaz fights... everyone wanted too see it. now mcgregor and diaz have a bargaining chip to get paid more money. It will soon happen where UFC fighters are making big, big money!!!
maybe to a casual the ufc is the draw. with only like 4 months of really following it and being a fan I knew everyone on ufc 205 and saw all their previous fights. Connor is about to own stock too and that will make a fighters union possible with company benefits and everything. they should be paid way more and get rid of that stupid fucking rebok deal
Quest4Truth and now is on MLB Network
He kinda did it to himself.
I love the ear defining pitch in the background 😂
This was over a decade ago and I still haven’t seen 1 fighter in the UFC get a 40 million dollar check in 1 fight. Speaks volumes….
What speak volumes is amount of PPV buys and if you exclude Floyd, UFC is actually doing better than boxing, considering that it's still very new sport it's massive success.
The only reason for that is that boomer business men old heads can't handle mma and they'll support boxing to the death
Damn that dude must experience anxiety every time he sees a UFC poster.
@I like Potatoes the context of argument is different lol XD but anyways if you wanna talk about money took close to 100 years for boxing to come to this stage
@@aliashfaque1746 Muhammad ali opened the floodgate for the big money days to arrive to boxing.
@I like Potatoes of course compare sallary between a less than 30 yr old sport to boxing
I hope he gets treated for it!
Markyz what is this notion that the older something is the more revenue will be had in said sport ? You do realaize the Canadian football league has been around since the 1900s and those dudes are barely making 60,000-150,000 (top players)grand a year , opposed to their nfl counter parts (a league that is younger) 15,000,000- 50,000,000
Years later and the ufc has turned into the peak of martial arts, no longer just brawlers, but skilled technical jui jujitsu, karate, taekwondo, kickboxers, etc.
Exactly, the sport has definitely evolved from that point
But the biggest stars is the guys that talk best. The other guy was right. UFC is not about the sport.
Mark Pagtama you couldn’t be more wrong, the biggest stars are the guys who are the best martial artists in the world
Mark Pagtama As opposed to Boxing, where it’s all about the money.
@@A_SalazarMMA yeah right. Tell that to mighty mouse.
I miss the old Joe Rogan.. Uncensored and talked like he was on cocaine.
It’s very interesting/funny looking back on this clip now. Boxing is now either celebrity fights, or main guys like Tyson fury trying to fight Ngannou
The announcement of Logan Paul vs Floyd Mayweather was the final nail in the coffin for boxing
So the announcement of a 43 year old whos been retired from serious competition for 5 years having a novetly boxing match is the "final nail in the coffin for boxing". What about when Ali fought a pro wrestler? what about when Larry Holmes came out of retirement to fight Butterbean? what about when Foreman fought 3 random guys in the same night? Btw as stupid as this Logan Paul shit is it'll probably do the biggest PPV numbers of the year in either sport.
Jake Punk needs to box a professional boxer his size or bigger AND WIN before he can start acting like he’s the greatest thing since I sliced bread.
Cause right now he’s the worst thing since UNsliced bread.
I watched you die what r u doing here
I think if they did a boxing match between Arthur and Micah that would revive boxing as a sport
@@ministryOFmuff that’s the point there’s no actual interesting matches
Im unsure why he said “young white guys” when MMA is easily the most diverse sport. A champion of every nation from what I’ve seen.
Hes talking primarily in ufc in that state in period from this video. Now MMA as grown and resurges from all over the globe not just ufc.
Money, no one else has got any
Mike Tyson Conor isn't a champion.... Mendes isn't a champion. Khabib isn't white you fucking dork!
He was race-baiting
lefu I CANNOT BELIEVE IT JOE. WHAT. A. FIGHT.
i love CZcams algorithm putting these younger Joe Rogan videos down my home page. 😊
Joe was right MMA is much bigger than boxing today even growing up not interested in martial arts i only knew mcregor and jon jones as fighters. From boxing i only knew Muhammed Ali and Mike tyson.
😂😂😂😂 canelo is literally all over Michelob Ultra ads all over the US. If the last boxing name you knew was Mike then you were never a boxing fan to begin with. Go outside.
Now ESPN is the new home of the UFC
And its not working out very well at all so far. Putting PPV behind a subscription service paywall and not even making the buyrates public anymore. TV ratings the same or lower than they were on friggin Spike in like 2007. Getting on ESPN wasnt all it was cracked up to be.
Wow, great point
@@ministryOFmuff Its not by tv ratings anymore idiot. Its PPV, watching on UFC fight pass. They're making a killing. Stick to your dead sport.
@@ministryOFmuff Oh i think its working out very well for them
@@ministryOFmuff lol Its working extremely well... Covington and usman just broke the bank with their fight
"Defence is as important as offence" is the worst argument ever. Name 1 sport where that isn't the case
Yea that is a ridiculous thing to say when comparing the two. Show me 1 guy in the UFC who doesn't have good defence. He would get knocked out or taken down within seconds.
Golf
@@bena3341 Tim sylvia, clay guida, Diego Sanchez, mark hunt. Brock Lesnar. I can go on all day.
Matthew Rose hahhaa lol. Does golf have offence or defence?
@@88ganzini88 The offense is scoring, the defense is mother nature.
Well Joe was clearly wrong on saying boxing wouldn’t have new stars
This aged beautifully….2023 been the year of boxing
Tank, Bud, Tyson, Errol etc etc
no its not lmao. i would say 2 UFC events out sold the entire year of boxing events. you are lost.
@@taylorpeay8991 If you'd say that you'd be wrong. Tank/Garcia and Bud/Crawford are the two biggest selling PPVs of this year. Educate yourself brother.
Eh I gues u could say that since Crawford vs Spence was a fight that had been in the works for like the past few years , no ufc card has had that long of a holdout 😂 I doubt they’d have another year like this lol but boxing is still fun to watch I just think mma has by far more cards so much more fights to watch other than boxing cards
Exactly😂 UFC fans don't realize it's only popular in Europe and America.
Lmao the year of boxing? 😂😂😂😂
“As long as young white people like it” make anything a race issue.
Joe also is so educated about boxing too. He’s not even being cocky. This guy is hating on ufc and Rogan is keeping a level head. But he has tons of respect for great boxers.
Fact is no one has been able to cross over an be a champ.
@@nicholasgalando6412 Why are you having a conversation with yourself?
ministryOFmuff many thoughts.
ministryOFmuff I also didn’t really complete my thought before I posted
“Young white guy”
*Me, a half Filipino half Guatemalan guy* maybe I am the white guy
Welcome
One of us one of us
My fellow white brother🤙🏻
You are truly white
Hey brother!!! Welcome my friend :)
This aged like wine. Joe called it 20+ years ago. Now look @ the UFC and boxing. No one cares about boxing lol, everyone knows who jon jones is, khabib, makachev, chimaev, burns, rampage jackson, ferguson, connor mcgreggor, adesanya etc. UFC is truly the ultimate fighting championship.
Meanwhile back in the real world the three biggest PPV numbers of 2023 so far are Tank/Garcia, Spence/Crawford and Canelo/Charlo, all boxing matches. The biggest attendance of the year is 50k+ for Canelo/Ryder while the biggest UFC attendance of the year is under 20k. PBC alone has done three $20+ million generating live gates this year while the UFC has done that once in its 30 year history, PBC on Fox gets the highest ratings of any combat sports promotion in any America, and Top Rank gets higher ratings the UFC with both of them being on the same network, and the UFC HW champion just walked out to go have a boxing match. Apparently no one cares about boxing though....
Lol @ your list btw. Khabib has been retired for 3 years. Conor hasnt fought since July 2021 and is 1-3 in MMA and 0-1 in boxing since 2017, Rampage Jackson what fucking year is this? Tony Ferguson is on a 6 fight losing streak, everyone knows who Gilbert Burns is apparently lmfao.
How about Canelo, AJ, Fury, GGG, Spence, Crawford, Tank, Garcia, Loma, Usyk, Wilder?
@@ministryOFmuff lmao literally no one cares about boxing. No ones mentioning it or even bothering to illegally stream it. Don't be salty.
@@kingkezz9188 I just gave you objective easily checkable factual information and your response is to repeat "no one cares". Break the UFC kool aid conditioning brother lol.
@@kingkezz9188"literally no one cares about boxing". Tell that to the 4 million people when Mayweather fought Pacquiao. I think both sports are phenomenal but boxing right now is more popular.
This video was posted 14 years ago.... and my original comment and one from 3 years ago is still dead on. lol.... Although it's scary to think all the time that has passed, I look forward to checking back 3 years from now.... And, mark my words, boxing will both still be around. There are even more fighters on the rise now than when Floyd and Pac's era ended..... And, despite UFC's cash cows being out of the picture for quite some time, mma is still healthy..... Neither will sink in our lifetime, regardless what happens.
11 years later and I bet joe owns his car and doesn’t have a mortgage anymore these days.
True but he also has the most popular podcast in the world if I’m not mistaken
Of course not, I hear he owns Pride you know.
@@imapleb4956 hes worth about 60 million so id assume hes pretty set lol
How funny would it be if he brought this guy on the pod
Dude wasn’t he doing fear factor back then? How didn’t he have bread.
Floyd Mayweather "I'll fight you McGregor but we have to only use our hands" 😂😂😂
Conor called him out and said he wanted to go over to boxing
@@lorenzolimas5974 What??? Didn't Mayweather talked about fighting in the octagon first?
@@navajo237 Damn such a pissy little girl! 😂
@@navajo237 Your comment sounded like you got jumpy thats why i said what i said lol anywho I understand Conor likes money nothing wrong with that but Mayweather talked about getting into the octagon twice but he never did thats what IM talking about, im frustrated cause id love to see Mayweather challenge his skills in the octagon
@@navajo237 Conor got a tko because he gassed out correct me when im wrong but don't boxers usually wait until the later rounds in order to go all out? To try to gas the other one out?
I think the boxer might actually have a better chance in a street fight because boxing is quick, simple and clean. Almost like comparing a 5.56 to a 7.62.
You’re retard if you think a boxer beats a wrestler in a street fight, just simply retarded
Boxing is the sport of punching and UFC is the sport of fighting
Caleb Shouse no other way to say it!
I train UFC bro
Yes because UFC is a sport.....
lol that's like saying I practice NBA bro. UFC is an organization. Mixed Martial Arts is the sport.
ufc is a sport.
This aged well for my boy joe rogan HAHA
Central Intelligence Agency agreed
He made an idiot of himself. Notice when he says there will be no new stars after the guys that were big then the names he mentions are Oscar De La Hoya, Bernard Hopkins and Jermain Taylor. You know why? because Floyd and Manny blew up after the interview lmao. But sure, it aged so well.
@@ministryOFmuff 2 people lol still aged well
@@ericgalvez7143 Yeah literally two of the biggest boxing stars ever. Who fought each other in the biggest drawing PPV fight of all time. Then after them Canelo, GGG, Loma, Joshua etc blew up too and MMA STILL hasnt swallowed boxing 11 years later. Aged so well! lol.
Btw Rogan himself talks about boxing regularly on his podcast these days and recently had both Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder on there. A few years back he even admitted that the UFC instructed him to say that stuff in this interview and he didnt even agree with it himself.
@@Alec-wm7tf White America is not the world. Also your "you hear about these names because you watch boxing" and "everyone forgets about boxing until the next fight" ALSO APPLIES TO MMA. The average person that doesnt follow MMA only knows Conor, and Conors biggest ever PPV buys (by far) and exposure came from a boxing match. Nobody really gives a shit about MMA when Conor isnt fighting, and hes had one MMA fight in the last two years.
As for HBO, they folded because their competitors put them out of business and presumably because they wanted to focus on entertainment shows rather than sports. Floyd left them for Showtime in 2013, Top Rank left them for ESPN in 2017 and Canelo left them for DAZN not long before they decided they were quitting.
MMA fans wanna gloat about it and make it seem like HBO cancelled because nobody is watching boxing anymore, when in reality boxing still pulls in slightly higher overall ratings - even HBO in its final year was doing comparable ratings to the UFC. Its kinda like how MMA fans are doing the whole "we got an ESPN deal" thing seemingly unaware that boxing is already on ESPN...
There is also part of mma that dont work in a streetfight like we could punch wrestler in the back of the head when they try to catch us, bite them when they do catch us or shits like that.
This video gave me permanent tinnitus
Cockfighting he says; UFC has never had a fatality. In the 120 year history of boxing there have been over 900 fatalities in the ring.
And thats not counting the fatalities from sparring, which have been plentiful along with people basically being brain dead or close to it.
to be fair, the UFC hasn't had any deaths, but there have been deaths in MMA fights.
Crazy that no one has directly died in the ufc yet. It will happen though, just a matter of time.
@@Opomax nah they dont let mazzagatti ref anymore
@@Opomax I agree. It's basically inevitable to have someone in the UFC die at some point. MMA fighters in other promotions have died from damage caused by a fight and from complications caused by dangerous weight cutting methods.
please bring these two together and have the same debate in 2019
A B the guy is a fan of mma now
See if you can stop Joe from slobbering all over current boxers on his podcast for long enough to do it.
Yeah, he admitted to liking mma now
@Don Jon @Don Jon Oh really and when did Boxing start? Compare that with MMA, it takes time to create a fanbase like boxing. Boxing is doing better but it's numbers are going down. Not sure why you think that is a valid argument. I only watched boxing from 2000 till 2017. Then I discovered MMA. I stopped with boxing completely, martial arts is so much more than only boxing.
@Don Jon I see your point but you are to focused on here and now. MMA still will grow many people like me didn't know orgs like UFC exist. MMA has still allot of time and it doesn't really need stars I'm talking about martial arts in general is just more exciting to watch than only a small portion of martial arts like boxing.
14 years later ufc fighters complaining about the pay. Boxing is thriving and making super stars
Boxing is literally dead buddy u have a CZcamsr getting more attention then actual boxing world champions ur on something buddy😭😭😭
joe rogan wearing a durag is truly a delight
Joe Rogan while not talking:
Don’t say anything about DMT, don’t say anything about DMT, I wonder if these guys know about DMT.
Chad C what that
yamerrific it’s a psychedelic drug
Dakoda Fisher that fact u tried that and thought it hit🥳
@Dakoda the lick balls shit had me dying 💀
Lou: You’re not a boxing fan
Rogan: So you’ve chosen death
joe was graced with the satisfaction of knowing there's nothing he forgot to say in that argument
Floyd talking about UFC fighters can't make it in boxing. But it's boxers who can't make it in UFC.
Wasn't Holly Holm a boxer?
Update
UFC sold 2.5million ppv
HBO quit boxing
Conveniently ignoring that Floyd/Manny did 5 million and Floyd/Conor did 4.3 million. Also conveniently ignoring that 229 was the first UFC card in 2 years to break a million PPV buys while boxing did it 4 times in 2017 and 3 this year.
ministryOFmuff
You are mentioning 2 of the biggest boxing Ppv’s one including a mma athlete.
And I am not saying boxing isn’t bigger than mma but the gap is very small nowadays and everyone pretty much agrees that mma will take over
+AlexinhoFCB Yeah and you are talking about the biggest MMA event ever by a lot lol. The previous biggest was the Conor/Diaz 2 card which did 1.6 million.
The only people that think MMA will "take over" are those that live in an MMA bubble in America and dont pay any attention to boxing. Ive been an MMA fan for nearly 20 years and people have been saying its taking over the entire time. At the end of the day both have their ups and downs, some years the UFC does better business, some years boxing does. Boxing isnt going to just disappear and be replaced, the two co exist.
ministryOFmuff I am talking about the biggest event because it’s an Update xd I also think it’s a big step up for the mma world. Even my parents heard about the fight and I’m form Europe where fights are like at 5am and for free XD I still think it’s going to take over the masses but we will see how it turns out
@@ministryOFmuff u live in a boxing bubble then. Boxing has been dying for years MMA is going the other way. More popular. And MMA is huge around the world too. Mma is just a diff beast