What's a flick, what's a roll, and which pickleball attack is better for you?
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
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Are you struggling to disguise your roll volleys as you move up through the pickleball ranks? Try out this topspin flick shot to keep your opponents on their heels!
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Murray the real star of the show here. Somebody get him a paddle 😂
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Zane, you are a great teacher and player, you explain things so well and I love your sense of humor. BTW, I had a chance to say hello to you at the Newport Beach event, you were kind and patient and I look forward to getting you to come to our club for a clinic, continued success and always, ALWAYS...PADDLE UP!
You're the man Miguel! It was great to meet you!
I've looked at tons of super slow motion flicks from a lot of top players recently, you aren't able to grip the ball and generate enough spin to tilt the paddle downward as you would in ping pong. It only happens on high balls where you are actually trying to force the ball downwards. Check out your own flick at 4:10 minute mark in your match with Altaf Merchant vs the Johns brothers from 2021. Your paddle face is slightly open on a ball you contact a bit above the net. If you tilt the paddle face down, the ball is going to go down. As Tyson Mcguffin says, "the paddle face doesn't lie." There have been a few studies on the how much more spin is being generated by some of these new carbon paddles and others, its pretty negligible. I've seen a handful of other great players like yourself give this advice on various shots, they think they are actually tilting the paddle downwards but if you slow it down you can see it's not happening. The same holds true for a roll or a forehand drive which are both generally hit with even more topspin I believe.
This drill looks super hard not gonna lie, maybe show how the shot actually is in real gameplay?
Love the pups! ❤ Thx for instructional & drills! 🙌
Unpaid actors. Come for the pickleball content, stay for the dogs!
Great tip! Thanks for the drill. Please keep the dogs in future videos!
Haha you don't need to worry about that. I couldn't keep them out if I tried! Haha
90% dog bloopers, 10% pickleball
Sounds ideal to me tbh
I'd like to know more about the possible wrist issues if this is from overuse or just bad technique. And in a normal game there wouldn't be THAT many chances for a wrist flick. I'm also wondering how the roll helps prepare the wrist for the flick since your wrist isn't supposed to move during a roll
Hi Zane, very cool shot! I’m not a 5 but i’d love to try this for sure. But it would be super helpful if you actually showed the shot in action - not just the drill. :) Can this work on drop drive? Can it be in “red” aka below knee?
Probably not in the red, but definitely in the yellow. I’d say that JW Johnson is the master of this shot. Check out some film of him!
Can you show us how to hit a Nasty Nelson? 😁
Thanks for the high level tips Zane
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Great video, thanks! could you please show or tell us the point where the ball should be hit? (greetings from Bogota, Colombia!)
Generally you’re trying to reach as far into the kitchen as you can. This is because it takes space away from your opponent and the closer you get it to the net, the higher (normally) you can make contact!
Murray got legit ball skills and footwork.
lol, very smooth paddle promo. like how the dog just walks across the kitchen while you guys are drilling (hahahaha). thanks for doing this video. I've been really curious about how to develop a backhand flick volley. do you end up having to cross train with wrist strengthening exercises (when you are ready to develop the flick)?
Interesting question. I don’t, although it would probably be wise to look some up!
For balls well above the level of the net, do you ever roll volley or is it mostly punch volley?
Love the dogs
They're the stars!
great vid - thanks for using my song 🙌
I love how you leave the bad shots in just to show you guys aren't perfect.
And can you send me a Zane paddle? I'll show it off to all the people I play with
Haha yeah, I need to talk to my editor about making me look like a superhero! I have new and used paddles available for sale here: zanenavratilpickleball.com/shop/
@@ZaneNavratilPickleball I meant send me one for free!! 😃
I came for the dogs and stayed for the pickleball
This is awesome thanks for the information on how to attack the ball at the net. Im curious what the roll volley ends up looking like though, and why is rolling a volley a good thing?
Solid question. The "roll" is top spin which allows the ball to dip down into the court.
@@ZaneNavratilPickleball thanks!
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Im not getting the ping ping serve as the drill and how it transform / helps for the shot , may be too many distraction and mis the point,
Can you please explain more about wht that drill and how to apply that to the shot .
Hey Mani. It's all about closing the face of the paddle and getting the feel for the brush of the ball!
Great stuff. In your Dink podcast ep w Ben Johns, you brought up the badminton player Hendry Winarto and his super compact punch…is this fourth step advanced shot you’re teaching basically what Hendry’s doing?
Hendry executes it a bit differently, but it follows some of the same principles. Hendry doesn’t have a ton of top spin on his but tons of velocity
The way badminton player hit the compact punch is by snapping the wrist and hitting it flat. The power actually come from the fingers.
This video is like an homage to the origin story of pickleball. It would be perfect if the dog's name was Pickle...😁 As always, good stuff Zane
Thanks Mike! Believe it or not, the game wasn’t named after a dog named pickle!
@@ZaneNavratilPickleball I know...but it's a cooler origin story than the actual one.
@@firedog1003 100% agreed 😂
Great to see Murray. Thanks for sharing this one.
Bro your Golden’s are… golden.
Is he's paddle pass the test to be eligible for competitive play?
Haha what's the question here?
Murray for President!
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Your dog is telling you 'stop the BS and play with me now!!! Lol! No, great tips on rolling attack, push attack and flick attack. Only advance players for harder ones. Everyone else should just push, it's enough.
Murray and Hobie are the real reasons to subscribe!
Very confusing. Is bouncing the ball over the net a legit shot. If that was just a demo, I don't get it.
Dude. I know it's annoying, and I wouldn't want to see a lot of Murray every video. But for this video, he stole the show. And, I really had fun watching you two interact. He's a character, and very cute all at the same time!
You need to give murray a paddle and have him running around with it in his mouth in the background during these videos
Wanna grow your channel? Murray should be in every video.
Let's drill how to lose a point and have everyone laugh at you.
No need to drill that. I'm already an expert
How can you not show the actual shot in action???? Like the drill is nice, and here's what it will allow you to do? Or maybe it won't allow you to do anything cuz you never show the shot! Sorry not trying to be rude but I hated the video!
It's against the laws of physics to have your paddle face downward and hit a ball below the net and get it over. And you double down by claiming you hit the shot with a forward push of the paddle, not an upstroke. Impossible! You are confusing what is called a "feel" in sports with what actually is happening. It may benefit you to "feel" like you are hitting the ball with a 20 downward face angle, but I guarantee you, if you slowed the film down, you would clearly see you are hitting the ball at a neutral(which would necessitate a low to high swing to create the proper launch angle to clear the net) to slightly open face at contact.
Thanks Zane, now I have to deal with rec players hitting balls into the net during open play. 1:24.