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Thank you for showing me a sandpaper alternative. One step closer to zero waste.
We called them 'cabinet scrap0ers' at school in late 1960s. Used them all the time. At my boarding school, they used to open art school, science labs, and woodwork shop for four sessions - Tuesday, Thursday afternoons, Saturday evening, Sundays - 7 hours total. Teacher wasn't a teacher, he was head of maintenance and was, himself, a master carpenter
Traditionally, a cabinet scraper is a hand plane-like tool that holds a thicker piece of steel at a negative angle. Stanley #80, for example.
THIS IS JUST LIKE RE INVENTING THE WHEEL .
i am 58 yeas old my grandad taught me how to use a spoke shave and how to hone a scraper blade .
to this day i still have scraper blades that are profiled to produce radiuses and profiles the type you cant even get thease days .
i never forgot that skill .
my home to this day has dado rails and skirting i reproduced from the original forms .
IE . my 10 inch skirting i made by hand look's like it has been there from the day the house was built ,
[ i could not even get the original profile . so i made my own ]
THANKS GRANDAD YOU TOUGHT ME A REAL SKILL :)
The technique in this video is not "reinventing" anything at all.
A scraped surface is more sealed than a sanded surface, and will require fewer coats during finishing. And it's a great way to prep inside corners.
True, and the wood pores are less cluttered with dust. That told I have also to tell that the surface that comes from a properly tuned and used hand plane is even better, off course to prepare and use a hand plane to get that result needs much more skill and experience then to tune and use a scraper and certain pieces of wood are very difficult to plane, but is the faster and better way to get a perfect surface most of the times. The difference of quality in the surface is even more apparent if you use oil for finishing.
@@andreachinaglia5804 Thanks for your insight, I'll keep that in mind. I've been working with tamarack and cedar. With scraping the knots don't seem to cause too much of a problem so far.
Any elaboration, sources or "proof" for that statement ? Would like to learn more
@@TheOneMastodon I tested it comparing the surface obtained by planing vs the surface obtained with 3 different top quality orbital sanders, Festo, Makita and Bosh, equipped with quality sand paper: the surface appears to be very close, but as you apply some oil on it the one from the plane looks much better. I did that at a woodworkers meeting many years ago and all those that was there, some professional workers and some advanced amateurs, agreed about the surface obtained by planing being superior as soon as the oil was applied. There are probably 2 reasons why: the surface is obtained by a cut and not something that scratches the wood and the pores are not cluttered with sawdust. After that test I gradually shifted from the hand held electric sanders to the planes that I use even to "sand" plywood. Using the planes is also better as there is no noise or dust (that is not so healthy to breath), so ear and lung protection is not needed and is fast, much faster then any hand held electric sander. I am not talking of theory or of some test done and soon forgotten, I am talking of something that I am doing in my real life woodworking in the last 15 years or so, I own a very good and expensive orbital sander, but I had used it very seldom in the last 15 years as the hand plane is much more efficient and pleasant to use (if you have the needed skill in preparing, setting and using it). If the plane is not suited for the particular work, some woods and some grain orientations are problematic even with a perfectly tuned plane, you can judge by yourself how the card scraper is fast and effective watching the video.
@@TheOneMastodonIit's a super easy experiment, give it a try. You can also pull a scraper instead of pushing it. Works great for inside curves and inside corners.
I must tell you that I did buy an Accu-Burr, and after years of struggling to sharpen my card scrapers, this little gizmo is the real deal. Beautiful glorious shavings instead of dust. Thanks for the FYI, James.
Man, i really like your channel. I inherited about half of a woodshop and im just getting started on this journey. Thanks for all the good information!
I offered to help a friend remove and re-varnish two beautiful Thames rowing skiffs. I assumes he would use a mix of chemical strippers and electric sanders. No, 100% done by hand with scrapers, with minor hand sanding. It took much less time that I would have thought the finish was great, and no power sander dust and messy chemicals.
The next week I bought my own scrapper set.
I use a card scraper all the time. I like the little touches that are included in this kit to make it easier to get a nice square edge. Always impressed with things like this from Taylor Toolworks.
Thanks, James! As an experienced woodworker, some videos are spent nodding along and saying "yup, knew that" but there are plenty of useful new gems in your collection too - like this one!
That's a great kit setup! I tried and failed with scrapers for years until I tried lightening up. I was trying to KILL the metal with the burnisher for years and always failed. Turned out I was likely forming too large a burr and rolling it over too far. So it would only cut when the scraper was laid way over at some crazy angle. And being so big a burr it broke off and dulled very quickly.
It was only a few months ago that the fast rapid swipes shown in various videos made me lighten up and use a firm but not crazy hard pressure. And it worked GREAT!. My shavings are now coming off like the ones in this video. And the sharpness is lasting just like you're saying. So firm, not heavy is the key. And more strokes rather than heavier if needed. Less is more in this case.
I'm a musical instrument maker who specializes in historical bows. Starting about thirty years ago, I completely stopped using sandpaper, finishing the surface with scrapers of various kinds, and then polishing with equisetum (horsetails) and/or mammoth dust (a byproduct here). This is close to the way things were done hundreds of years ago- it doesn't have the boring perfection of sanded surfaces, but it saves time and (in my opinion) looks more alive.
Ok well my jaw is 100 percent on the floor, until 6 minutes ago I didn't know you could just scrape a piece of wood instead of sanding it. That is insane and I think I might be about to spend a bunch of money, damn
Scrapers and all the crap you need to make em work are pretty cheap and you've only gotta buy em once. Think of how much you'll save on sandpaper in the long run. It's a ridiculous bargain.
I built a clamp just like that 15 years ago. The one thing I never did was polish the flats. I gotta try that!,
Here's a burnishing tip for those without that little tool. I raise the scraper 1/16th above the flat edge of the clamp, and use the edge of the clamp to set the angle of my old valve push rod burnisher. another great video!
I've used it on all of my scrapers. FINALLY, a method that actually works. Thanks, Mike. And thanks, James, for all you do for us.
Been using them for years. My go-to for finishing and not creating a cloud of dust. Good info here peeps!
How do you do radius edges and profiles?
With these instructions even I could get a sharp edge.👍👍And the kit is reasonably priced. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
Card scrapers are def one of my favourite finishing tools.
They work well for cleaning up 3d prints also
How do you do radius edges or profiles?
Scrapers and their maintenance have always fallen into my “Voodoo tools” category of stuff that my hands don’t instinctively understand. After watching this video my hands have given me permission to buy one small one😊
The best method of sharpening a scraper I personally have ever seen. What an easy and effective process. Thx for sharing.
Taylor Toolworks sells great stuff. Thanks for the recommendation.
I'd like to see more on sharpening french curve cabinet scrapers!
Card scrapers are *the* best tool in my arsenal to refinish gunstocks.
A sharp plane blade can also be used as a scraper. I have also used freshly broken window glass for scraping curved work, just need to find a piece the right shape. 🙂👍🇦🇺
Prep is always a time saver
Great information James, looks like a keeper process to take care of the scrapers and make them better tools. Fred.
thanks for the fine tuning
Another excellent and invaluable tip! Thanks for making! :)
I've not long been a woodworker, just 3 years so I've got a lot to learn. I saw an old German woodworker who showed me what he used, instead of sandpaper on wood, he said he was never given sandpaper as an apprentice, instead he used a handful of shavings and burnished the wood that way. Although I use whatever shavings I've just been planning, I found oak shavings to be the best in my humble opinion.
Purchased this kit a couple of months ago,works great,that burnisher makes it so easy
Went out to the shop made the holder jig,used a flat General Steel Rule and some 1000,1500 emery.can’t believe how nice the scrapers came out.Made the magnet holder too.THANKS Stumpy
Me too.Fantastic tip.
Great video. Love Taylor Tools ever since the first time I heard you talk about them on your channel I’ve bought many things from them thanks for sharing
Taylor Tools is great. I just picked up my newest TayTools package off the front porch with my new rules from the last video! Great service and selection. And for this great tip, I already have a scary sharp system, so now off to make the wood pieces and get a burnisher!
Hey, those wood dreadlocks look great for tinder!
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Doooooood...i knew i was missing something. The final step with the burnisher....thank you so much bud!
I use a scraper whenever possible. They save so much time.
Omg that burnisher is a game changer...I absolutely have to buy that.
Very interesting, this is one case where a burr is actually useful.
Thanks for sharing!
Wonderful jig. Scrapers are very useful. Thank you for sharing. Everyone stay warm,, safe, happy and healthy. From Henrico County Virginia
The only part of what you show here I wasn't aware of is the burnisher.
But I think I can make my own. Will give it a go. Thanks, Mr. The Nubs!
A burnisher just needs to be harder than the scraper, and perfectly smooth. Screwdrivers make poor burnishers because they are not machined very smooth. But engine push-rods make good burnishers.
@@StumpyNubs axles from old printers also seem like a nice candidate.
does the burnisher have a special shape that makes it work?
@@sliceofbread2611 The shape of the one I showed makes it easier to use (as I explained in the video) but any smooth, rod-shaped, extra-hard material will work. You will just have to adapt your technique and practice a bit.
likewise, thanks for commenting
Great demonstration James. Thanks.
James, I saw this on their website a little while back and went for it because I tried a few times to sharpen my scraper but didn't have much success. Well, this kit/process really worked. Puts a really nice burr on the card. This really did the trick for me.
I have had very good experiences with Taylor Toolworks from multiple orders. Excellent products, good prices, and great sales. And, unlike many espams, I look forward to their frequent emails. I shop, I covet, and I learn things. Not at all bad!
Good video and very helpful. I also like the new backdrop.
Great video, as always.
This is good transferable knowledge. Thank you.
Luthiers have been using scrapers for a very long time. Thanks for the tip on the correct way of making one.
Thank you James.
I really like using card scrapers. I do like using my larger diameter burnisher. It applies less pressure but makes a cleaner hook. For certain purposes I use smaller scrapers withan angle on the end to get into corners. Also, particularly with those scrapers, I file the edge to an angle and burnish a hook on only one side--(like the blade in the Stanley scraper plane that looks like a spokeshave with a very wide bed). Takes of large shavings from hard to reach places on glued up cabinet work and boat deck structures.
Fantastic! Thanks a bunch, James! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Interesting, basically taking the "ruler trick" for hand plane back flattening and applying it to the card scrapper, followed by a Burnisher (which I really like). The jig is a great way to be consistent as well, I know I have to stop and think about all the steps since I don't use them often and sharpen them even less often because of that.
I can probably make up s similar jig/kit from parts in the shop so I'll have to give this a a go. I find my card scrapers to be very inconsistent, but maybe I need to sharpen them more.
Great information and instructions.
What about curved scrapers.. any tips?
Great video!
Looks fast and easy. Thanks 👍😊.
My favorite use is scraping gummy paint or varnish that tends to gum up sandpaper.
And glue lines!
Love it. For the inquisitive: there are conversion charts from micron-graded abrasive surfaces to grit-based surfaces.
Mon Dieu, what a collection of planes!
I learned to sharpen card scrapers while working in a ski repair shop over 30 years ago. But this system will certainly obtain much more consistent results. Very nice setup.
I'd seen the Taylor video, but it didn't register with me how quick it'd work. Thanks (ordered), and love the new shop/backdrop!
Really good, thank you!
as usual good advice short vid easy to follow.
Clear and concise. Thanks!
Definitely an art to use a scaper. This helps a lot. Thanks.
Cool! Another game changer.
Love your work 👍
Thank you sir for sharing, I like the sharping kit.
I’ve had a pair of scrappers for a few years now. Never used them. I must have been feeling old timey when I bought them. I think you just changed my mind on using them.
That is a great process!
Rob Cosman uses torrified wood for the holders. It’s water resistant so the wood won’t be damaged by the water.
This is good knowledge. Thx!
Looks like a great idea.
Thanks!
My father used a piece of flat glass. He had a few little tricks like that. Comes from growing up in the 1930s and 40s...
The only good thing about when you make dust with it is that you can mix the dust with shellac for a great filler.
is shellac better than wood glue?
Expensive video! I had no choice once I saw this, I had to buy the kit and the burnisher. Please hold off for a while before you recommend anything else this good!
James, great video and thanks for the link to Taylor Tool. I prefer family business over"box stores" who only care about their "bottom line".
A scraper was a recent tool i heard about for finishing 3d prints. Apparently its a great tool for smoothing layer lines without using all the sandpaper in the universe.
One of the few tools im looking at making for myself to simplify my life.
Interesting. Thank you
And you could just use your "scary sharp" glass/sandpaper/compound setup for this too.
I really like the shaped burnisher, haven't got one yet.
Thanks, Jim.
Can't wait to see the drawers and doors on your cabinets behind you.
Great info Thanks!
Still love your vids James
Hand tools for the win again!
thank you!
Those shavings look like great little fire starters.
That's awesome.
I find the cheap metal rules work great as well when used as a scraper
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Wow!!!! game changer, imho...
Sanding cloth embeds the sawdust into the woodgrain pores. A good luthier uses scrapers to get a fine finish because embedding sawdust into the grain kills the vibrations and thus dulls the musical sound
You should make some luthinging...? Seriously what is the verb form of this word?!? You should make videos about doing...luthier type things.
Also, my phone thinks you are Lutheran who lathers...
Wood guitars have a gloss coat. So, I can't understand what you mean. The point is to use a grit so fine nothing is getting into the grain. Sawdust particulates, even visible ones, are NOT "killing vibrations."
@@TotalDec guitars are not the only instruments made by luthiers, and they are one of a few that are less affected by sanding. But try sanding vs scraping on a world class violin and there will certainly be a difference
@@TheLovelyMissBeans Luthiers make guitars and other string instruments
Just re watched this vid.I made the jigs but forgot how they worked.By the way,the scrapers I sharpened after I first made and used this method are still sharp as hell.
Ok… grab the sander. Bingo, done!
2:53 Ruler or RULE????😂
If in doubt choose Hilti
@@m4inline hahaha , nice one
Great video thank you. One of the coolest features of scraping is that the finish is more beautiful than what you get from sanding. The surface from sanding appears dull by comparison to scraping.
Excellent
Can you please do a video on how to sharpen curved card scrapers?
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nice one
Thank you sir!
Veneers scrapes r tool u rarely c nowadays but they really r effective
The sold me the card scraper, then the burnishing tool, and now the prep kit 😂