The Problem With Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man
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The Amazing Spider-Man movies are all done, but what has Andrew Garfield's performance left us with? I dig into that that here.
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What did you think of the Amazing Spider-Man films?
hey do u think andrew deserves another chance as spider man under a better script
The first time i watched it i found it really good and funny
Watching it again changed my opinion almost completely
captainmidnight the amazing spiderman 1 and 2 suck
@@creeperhoney6014 yes they did say it men
@@rohanshan7698 to answer your question yes I think he deserve another chance if sony decide to do it again but with a better writer
I feel like Andrew could have played a great college age Spider-Man where he is already a seasoned crime fighter and has grown some confidence since his high school years.
Yep. That could've also been a soft sequel to the Raimi series
Yes but Sony can’t take him out of high school
He would have made a great older spiderman. The one struggling with bills, dueling with depression, similar to the Spider-Man recently seen in the videogame
Yeah it would’ve been cool if he had only been Spider-Man for like a year or so and he was pretty cocky. Then he has to face superhuman foes that rose to challenge him
@@aedanmannion I disagree. One year is too close to his highschool days. More like 4 years or even more where he is either in college or even an fully fledged adult trying to balance his work life with paying the rent with his spiderman duties
“Did you get your milk?”
“Yes”
“What did it cost?”
“Uncle Ben”
"F"
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@@lukanius9152 ?
@@lukanius9152 deutsch?
@@lam3638 Ich glaube schon.
Am I the only one who really enjoyed Andrew as Spider-Man? I feel his smugness and confidence when fighting villains made his character more enjoyable and entertaining to watch. Overall I loved Andrew as Spider-Man
Yeah ..... so true . I loved the movies , okay ! some characters were bad ..... harry osborn and electro seemed stupid , but i really liked Peter's Character.
@Jakob-Roblox888 now that I think about it ... U r right
You are the only one .. Andrews spiderman sucks
I did too an I grew up with Toby Maguire as my spiderman.
@@mini_viswanath no he’s not i loved andrew garfield’s spiderman/peter parker
nobody:
youtubers:
SORRY FOR MY VOICE IM SICK
Yeah, why do they always say that?
lol
@@T211K because youtubers also get sick. You know, like normal human beings?
@Giga Warrior oh. Right. That's true. We don't notice most of the time.
#wouldnthavenoticed
I feel like Garfield was just given a bad script, and that he could’ve been a much better spider man
I like Turtles
maybe but the script was dog shit i dint like it like they portayed spidey as a jerk selfish ass not funny boring dude most of the time in amazing adrews peter parker maybe shown his intelligence but not better kindness to others tobey had to others shown kidness rspect and pitty and was picked on because of being different in school he portayed peter better even if he was sometimes a crybaby he was funny and likable while adrew for me dint hit it tobey only acted in 3 as a ass but got rid of it from the symbote and tobeys suit was better in all he designed it of mary janes looks explains the redblue in it tom in homecoming is good he has both ascpects at being pefect toby maybe wasnt so atlethic spiderman but he did a ok part
Finally! Someone else who thinks that Andrew Garfield is a generally strong actor yet motivated to act badly by an out-of-character script in The Amazing Spider-Man films! Too bad people say that most (if not all) criticisms this video has towards Andrew Garfield as Spider-Man (by calling the bashers of him as the character "miscast" like every Internet hater that dwelled in their parents' basement there is) instead of the other Spider-Man actors are bullshit.
I think that was Sony's point to make him look like that type of person. In Spiderman 1&2. if we would of got a Amazing spider man 3 we would probably see his personality change for the better now that Gwen died in the end of amazing Spiderman 2
He should have played an older peter parker like in the ps4 game.
Andrew Garfield's spider man feels like waisted potential. If Sony never screwed it up, then his version of spider man could have been great.
Scout Trooper it was great but if Sony never screwed it up it would be better if not equal to the Spider-Man Homecoming but you got to admit it was better than Toby Mcquire
@@elitefbl no.
Sony screws everything up Venom
Spiderman 4 and this wtf
@Ross Coe he's specifically saying that it is only Sony that let it down, and the casting was fine.
@@elitefbl if sony never screwed up with forcing venom into spiderman 3 then we would have got an amazing 3rd and 4th movie with tobey
I thought Andrew was great as Spiderman, I also think that Gwen's death scene is the most shocking scene in a Spiderman movie.
Wtf? Nothing about Gwens death is shocking. She is a character who was destined to die. Her death is one of the most iconic moments in Spider-Mans comic history. Thats why including Gwen in any Spider-Man movie just dosent work. Everyone, who has some minor knowledge about Spider-Man and Marvel comics would know that shes gonna die at some point.
@@gspanzer3226 how she dies in comics?
@@shahul8222 She dies in almost same way.
@@gspanzer3226 thank you
@@shahul8222 She was trown off a bridge and got a heart attack before Spider-Man caught her. Also he snapped her neck
i honestly think when people use the argument that andrew garfeilds spider-man is an irresponsible jerk its a dumb argument. At first in the tasm films peter is supposed to be a jerk because of progression. I honestly find it relatable when peter is a jerk because teenagers are not saints. They make mistakes and lash out at their loved ones like peter did with uncle ben. But peter changes during the bridge scene. He turns into the spider-man we all love. There's a really powerful moment when peter saves a kid and bring him back to his father. Even though he was wearing the mask you can tell he was feeling melancholy because he know he won't have this moment with the father figures peter had lost. people usally never talk about this which is sad because the first tasm film did so much right Thats when peter understood Ben's words. "with great power comes with great responsibility" I have no life lol.
Thank you
samad The movie is almost half way over when this happens so we had to deal with a disagreeable teen for most of it
Don’t get me started on that bridge 🌉 scene that scene was amazing
I would argue that what makes Peter a hero is that he isn't a piece of shit like most teenagers.
You are rigjt
Although the films arent great and the script was problematic, I don't think I would say Garfield was miscast as Spidey. He was just cast in the wrong spider-man franchise. When I see Peter in Spider-Man PS4, I see the most resemblances to Garfield. They are both more confident around their villains, but still stutter in front of the girl, the physicality in the suit is similar they appear taller and leaner than Holland/Maguire and they dont look traditionally nerdy but they both clearly are smart. I think Garfield could pull off an older and more experienced Spider-Man, and I think the amazing series should have gone in this direction.
Yeah that's a really good point.
Spider-Man PS4 actually takes a lot from the Amazing movies. The way Insomniac Peter moves and swings looks and feels just like the opening scene from TASM2 and do I even need to say anything about Peter and Ock's relationship in Spidey PS4 being a copy/paste of he and the Lizard's relationship in TASM1?
Well said. You hit the nail on the head.
@@MARCSEIDis I noticed that too.
@@TheZBUCKNER be quiet you humped a nail on the pavement
I'm gonna focus on something I actually liked about Garfield's Spider-Man and ConfusedMatthew brought this up: He's truly a _neighborhood friendly_ Spiderman. He actually interacts with the citizens on a personal level and you can get some heartwarming moments. Like when he defends a little boy from some bullies and compliments his wind turbine, even offering to walk him home.
Or the boy he pulls out of the burning car. The way he gets him out of it is so much more intimate and inspired than Tobey's detached heroics. The city people are more like props than actual people.
Peter didn't really... _talk_ to the people he saved or build a real rapport with them like Andrew did. I'm just saying I liked his more sociable approach.
Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man did *some* talking to the citizens. In Spider-Man 2, there was that scene when he was delivering pizza and he saved the two kids, telling them not to play in the street. It's not much, but you can't say it didn't happen.
No he wasn’t? He consistently was reckless and let the rhino hit many peoples cars, likely killing a few people. He also went on a revenge spree in the first one to find who killed his uncle which isn’t what Spider-Man does?? He is not neighborhood friendly at all
Liam Thibodeau
Technically, but he became spiderman after he saved the kid in the burning car, not when the movie started rolling
He had a NY accent
@@liamthibodeau5190 You do know that Spiderman went to go find his uncles killer for revenge in the comics right?
Unpopular opinion: I actually loved the Amazing spiderman movies. Well the first one more than the second imo
I have an even more unpopular opinion, I would take Amazing Spider-Man 2 over the 1st and all 3 of the Sam Rani Spider-Man movies
Harry Channer I think that’s a bit of a stretch
@@haris9649 maybe so but I just loved the charisma but Tom Holland was my favourite by far
Harry Channer Tom holland is my favourite too and I love Andrew Garfield as an actor. His acting in social network, hackshaw, breathe and silence is enough to say. But they did him no justice in the trilogy.
@@haris9649 maybe but to me, Tobey Maguire just seemed so dumb like when he just screams when all that metal was about to fall on Mary Jane
Out of all the three live-action actors, Garfield’s Peter was the most relatable to me. Minus the whole parents being CIA agents and being bit by a radioactive spider.
But is not comic accurate of good like tobey’s Peter Parker
I relate more to Tom Holland's character, he was written much better as a relatable sorta cringy teen
@@martincruzchavez5816 Tobey wasn’t that comic accurate. Too geeky and shy. Also, Peter’s parents being special agents is straight from the comics.
@@martincruzchavez5816 i dont think you realize that andrew is the most comic accurate of all. Tobey is the one who is completely not based on comics.
@@jaspfer6477 who said the movies had to be comic accurate? Just enjoy a spider man movie I don't know why people waste their time arguing away about opinions when no one cares
I’m not a fan of the basketball scene but in its defense it’s meant to have Peter have a smug sense of satisfaction. Peter just got his powers and he’s being “irresponsible” with them, I think that’s the point
It's not what Peter Parker would do... That's a big reason why people, especially fans of the comics like myself, were not impressed by Garfield's Spiderman, and more importantly: Peter Parker.
The writers and director couldn't capture *who* Peter Parker was. They were way off the mark.
@@5.A.M_IAM It's exactly what Peter would do. In the 616 he embarrassed Flash in front of everyone by beating him in a boxing match and it wasn't in self defense, he agreed to the fight. Versely he fought Flash in the Ultimate comics ALSO not self defense, he actually challenged Flash and he got satisfaction at the idea of embarrassing Flash. Peter has always gotten arrogant after getting his powers initially. Most of that smugness and arrogance goes away after his "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility" moment but some of that still stays even after. For instance in Peter's college years he's extremely confident and talks to Flash sarcastically all the time.
@@5.A.M_IAM you say you read comics but in the comics he,s done all this maybe not on that way but hes done it so i think you need glases next time
slicknick29 Thank you. I’m so tired of people saying Andrew’s Spidey was an asshole. 616 Peter was a huge asshole when he got his powers. Even a little while after Ben’s death. He even considered killing Flash (or seriously fucking him up) and robbing a bank. Tom’s Spidey is a Boy Scout, and they had the character captured so much better in Civil War.
@@D1andOnly12 Tom Spider-Man is a Boy Scout
I think tom hardys venom could have fit well in the amazing spider man universe
@@graebhi tom holland is a bad Spiderman
O hate Tom Holland as Spiderman
Me too
@@ultimategoku8537 how? He is good Peter parker and good Spider-Man
Andrew Spider-Man would have been better for Tom Hardy’s venom
Andrew is too cool to play a nerdy boy like Peter Parker
Why people bullying him ? He has looks of cool kid at school even without super power, no one gonna bully him.
He has a really punchable face. And his version of this character is really, really bad.
@Booper Dooper His punchable face isn't the scripts problem. But yes, this whole reboot failed every single Spider-Man fan so horribly that it's amazing they still made Homecoming etc.
Thats what my cousin said
@@Tuukkis he portrayed spider man really well, but Peter Parker was kinda off
You sound like toby McGuire so it was really trippy listening to your voice during this spiderman vid
I can't unhear it :/
Tobey maguire*
Hope The Human
I don’t hear it
Feck I hear it now
I don’t hear it and I’ve watched
captain midnights videos countless times
Toby McGuire sounds like Captainmidnight
I try not to blame the actor but the script and the director. A Bad script will make a great actor suck , and a great director and make a sucky actor good. When people say "The Amazing Spider-Man" movies were a desperate effort by Sony to hold on to the license regardless of their ability to make good use of it, I believe them.
Yeah, Kinda like Luke in The Last Jedi
How was the script of spideman 1 and 2 better then the amazing Spiderman
Jasmin Erdbeerkäse In the writing.
The Peter Parker of the Raimi movies was far, far more faithful to the character (in writing, acting and appearance) than in the Garfield movies. And note we call the earlier films "the Raimi movies" since they were distinctive in a way the direction in the latter movies were not.
As mentioned in the video, even Peter's use of humor was different. In the Stan Lee comics Parker typicallymocks bad guys as a stalling or misdirection tactic, while in a thought balloon he's thinking "I've got to keep him away from the generator, or he'll blow up the city!" Garfield's Peter rags on villians meanly for the heck of it, with no such tactical underside.
Yes. It so fucking boring and loosing sense.
I like his scenes woth Gwen in TASM 1. They feel so natural. Also, the scene when he finally made the web shooter work was nice. His reaction finally able to create it was something that also made me happy. Andrew was pretty likeable, really. I would like to blame the writing of his character more than his acting of it.
With the right writers, I truly believe that Andrew Garfield could be the best Spider-man on screen. Maybe around his college/early adult years, sorta along the lines of what we have in the PS4 game.
Problem is the other two have scenes like that almost the entire movie, especially Holland imo. Garfield had a few good moments but not nearly enough to put him up there with the other two.
Benjie Abbas I think of you go back and watch those scenes as well as pay attention to their antics, it doesn’t seem natural at all. It seems like bad improvisation. The whole time they’re doing these totally unnatural things with their mouths and body language and it just makes me uncomfortable, and totally ruins Peter Parker for me in that movie.
@@braedenhunter6501 well the two were dating at the time I believe, so don't quote me on this but they probably just told to improvise yea
Harley Quinn Supergirl Rogue Rey fan It didn’t though. It still felt forced and they weren’t together for long after.
I find at least to me that Andrews portrayal was the most relatable
Yeah I agree
in what ways?
Did you know that in comics, the first reflex of Peter after having his powers was to rob a bank. He wanted to buy a car to impress a girl at school. He didnt do that because he didnt wanted his uncle and aunt to get in trouble. But after that he stated to doing catch and became a star because he participate at several show and interview. Peter was a nerd who was angry and didnt have one single friend at school ( he only meet Harry Osborn at university). He thought that because the world hasnt been kind to him he didnt have to be a hero. But you know what happen next: the death of uncle Ben. Im writing all this because Im a fan of the comics of Spider man and Im tired of seeing people saying " yeah Andrew Garfield is a lame Peter Parker with his big ego". If you know the real Spider man and not only seen the movies and a few cartoon you know that he is more than a decent Peter Parker.
peter park shouldn't be relatable hes a smart student. smart people like him aren't relatable. andrew garfield was so bad at playing spiderman. hear nearly ruined spiderman for us true fans. think about.
@@final_boss1715 What? So you mean a smart student's whole personality is just being a smart student? Even if Peter Parker is a smart student, he can still be very relatable especially when it comes to his decisions in life other than school. Peter might be a smart student but he lives in a stinky cheap apartment and only does photography to pay his rent. And what do you mean by Andrew Garfield ruined the character with his portrayal when you complain about Peter Parker supposing to be a smart student. Andrew Garfield literally plays a smart student in the first film.
The only scene I liked from these two movies was the one where flash comes to talk to him after Ben’s death, and Peter immediately lifts him with one hand and shoves him into the locker with his enhanced strength… and then flash says “feels better right?” That gave me Spectacular Spider-Man vibes with developing flash as a sympathetic character very intelligently.
This is easily the best live action Flash, I could actually see this one becoming Agent Venom instead of punk ass MCU Flash
To me andrew garfield's spiderman's problem he is too much smug.Its seemed that he was more interested in being cool instead of saving people like in rhino scene and electro battle.
Your voice is perfectly fine no problem
CAPTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN MIDNIIGHT!!
I blamed the writing and directing choice for the failure of AMS 2, Andrew actually made a better Spiderman than Tom Holland, and I would argue he would be perfect as Peter Parker if Spiderman PS4 was made as a movie instead of a game, but I guess it's because in the game Peter looks so much like a hybrid between Toby and Andrew.
@@ryantheanimator1156 You're high. Tom Holland is perfect!
@@sindri1447 Tom Holland....is perfect why?
@Kratos most people think Tom Holland makes a better peter and spiderman than Andrew Garfield did, BuT I still respect your opinion.
Mr. Woods most people think that Tom Holland is perfect there were pulls on twitter asking who is the best 72% said Tom Holland 20% said Tobey Maguire and 8% said Andrew Garfield.
I did feel bad for Garfield. I remember interviews where he was ecstatic when he got the script for ASM2 and was hoping to bring a more accurate Spider-Man to the screen. He was also pushing hard to join the MCU. Sony wanted something different and interfered again, effectively ending another Spidey universe. Sony tried to scapegoat Garfield and then fired him. He was reportedly devastated. Yes his career picked up a few years later but that was later.
Tony:"Alright, I've ran out of patience. Underooss!"
*Capt's shield is taken away*
Peter:"Hey everyone."
"y'know I could've stuck the landing better"
.."Capt...big fan...I'm spiderman"
Read this in Andrew's voice lol
Tia Williams but let’s just be glad that Sony didn’t make Marie Jain a black man like Andrew wanted....seriously...Andrew is definitely gay
@@callmemrnoskin1166 really??? a black man???
mALLORY wINGATE yep 👍😂👌
Reason why is because when you think about Spiderman as a character your immediately think about Tobey and how he played the character and that he voiced him in some older Spiderman games. His version of Spiderman was the most memorable because of how he played him. You cannot think about Spiderman without Maguire coming to your mind.
You cant think of Spider-Man without him being a nerd.
Lmaoo, only he were iconic for the special effects for the time
Basketball scene is the truest form of human emotion, psychologically Peter was bullied all the time, he didn't express his anger, he hid it inside... and this is what happens when people with anxiety gain power... at start they use it against people that hurt them, until they outgrow it understanding that, that puts them bellow the "bully" we never see him bully a classmate again, because he has grown as a person. This is where his uncle's wise words come in "with great power, comes great responsibility"
This is why i love everything about the amazing spiderman... sure it isn't right, but it brings life to the scene, it feels true and life like.
Honestly couldn't buy Andrew as Peter Parker bc I never felt he was nerdy and I certainly couldn't believe that he would be unpopular in high school.
Right? He had to look for a CZcams video. For making electrical resistant web shooters. Parker is a nerd! He doesn't need CZcams
@@mikoswhackgameandstuffvids480 Honestly that's just implying Peter knows everything without having to have taken the time and study the subject first.
@@stardude289 I agree. Any nerd would still look things up, do research. A sophomore in Highschool doesn't just invent electrically resistant web shooters independently and in secret. Textbooks are only so helpful, and expensive. The Internet is free information on any topic, in your hand! I still caught nerdy vibes from him early on, doing research online and spending so much time on his PC.
I still agree on him not looking unpopular though. He seemed a little shy and awkward, and his voice always got all jumpy and rambled when he argued with his parents, but he always had good looks and a smug style even before the bite. He was successful. I was okay with that, but you're right to say it isn't a comic book Peter Parker. This wasn't a "awkward kid down on his luck receives powers artificially and his whole life gets turned around" redemption and growth story. This was "cool outsider kid gets powers that he can use as a tool to do more good, and improve his life". He improved, he didn't evolve.
I still thought Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man was awesome on its own.
I am a pretty good looking guy so I've been told. I was never popular in high school. I related to Andrews Spider-Man more for that reason.
He also sucked as Spider-Man cause he was willing to let people die just to crack some childish jokes and that was done by sony just to compensate the audience complains about maguire Spider-Man don't joking enough in his movies.
I believe it wasn't Andrew's fault. He's a great actor and played his part well, but the fault should've fall on the writers and Marc Webb. Just as mentioned, many scenes could've been done so much better if the direction was better or different (Marc Webb), and the fact that he was kind of smug and let Rhino destroy an entire street shows that it was the writers.
Andrew had so much potential, but the Writers and director did him dirty, and it's so unfortunate that his dream of being Spiderman did come true but being a great Spiderman didn't.
Sony should do a deal with Disney that they're able to use Andrew as Spiderman but claim that it's a different dimension, or do a different take on Peter Parker (like Noir, Assassin, Clones, Superior, etc.)
The problems lie with 'the suits'. They pushed for a linked universe way too much...
This exactly. Whatever the case may be, I just want Andrew back with a good script.
Hopefully in venom 2, hi top films did a good plot of the sequel that includes garfield's spidey, check it out
Spiderman shattered dimensions
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Easy problem to fix... Just give it a different twist, like how MCU Spiderman has bands and straps around his body, this one could have a bigger emblem with a different style. They could make him with a darker suit and that his "boots" aren't like boots but like sneakers.
Kind of like Spiderman PS4, but with a different style of the suit and story. I'm sure people could tell the difference between MCU Spiderman, and this one that would have a much different suit design without actually making it Drastically different like TASM1 design.
Physically i think andrews the most fit for the peter parker role. He looks like god literally read the spiderman comics and crafted him to look like peter parker. Hes 5’10, brown pompadour hair with brown eyes and lanky. Hes got the new york accent down and has the right voice for a grown spiderman. All in all i really do agree that the script that was given was what F’d him over. With marc webb as a great director, a proper screenplay writer and no executive meddling, i think andrew garfields spiderman wouldve been a gem.
I completely disagree with everything you said
@@randomcontentguy2521 you just dont see shit my guy
@@RAGEINYOUTH nah you are just a maguire fanboy
@@randomcontentguy2521 💀💀💀 i literally advocated for garfields version of spiderman in this comment, i hope you read or learn to not reach as much with your assumptions further in life kid
@@RAGEINYOUTH not a kid
Plot twist: the guy talking in this video is toby miguire
Imma put some dirt in your eye
His voice sounds like Toby.Listen it carefully
The real reason they didn’t continue the series is because Rhino killed Spider-Man off screen 5 seconds after the TASM went to credits
@Folande Kalan he's saying he killed Spiderman
True
@Jason Cruz Castro *whoooosh*
@@igorsabat1853 r/ihavereddit
@GoldenStateOfMind The End.
Am I the only one who think Garfield was great as Spiderman?
I genuinely enjoyed his performance and the film using Gwen instead of MJ was refreshing to me.
That said I really do feel as if, especially the second movie let him down in terms of the story telling they went with.
And ultimately I think that's what let the movie down is the overall choices in story telling they went with, and it's such a shame as I really do think that Garfield had the highest sealing of all the spiderman in resent time, yet he was the one who got the worst story and writing of them all.
He is not
This comment aged gracefully because all the people are not on his bandwagon after no way home. You sir are the epitome of a logical person. You can separate the plot form the actor.
considering there is another comment on top of yours asking the same question i would say no. you’re not the only one
@Mystic Editor he’s not
@Mystic Editor no
Andrew Garfield was to Spider-Man what Brandon Routh was to Superman. They were both accurate and underrated versions of the character who deserved another chance and better material.
Garfield was sandwiched in between fan favorites like Maguire and Holland, and Routh was sandwiched in between fan favorites like Reeves and Cavill. But that doesn’t mean they were bad, it just means they weren’t utilized to their full potential because they could’ve been as popular as them.
That's actually a great comparison. Both really showed off their talent when they came back, and imo both received redemption. Andrew in NWH and Brandon Routh in Crisis on Infinite Earths.
One of the biggest changes for Tobey to Garfield is one can shoot his own web while the other needs web canisters. I know in the comics he need canisters at first but I personally like the idea he can creat his own, gives more to being a Spider-Man then just increased strength and sticky hands. I believe if Garfield had better writers/directors he would of done great. We will never know....
but the fact that garfields spider man created his own by himself proves his intelligence its also insanely strong
I also don't like the idea of webshooter. He seems less spider-man. They could have called him the human-ant. Since ants are strong and can walk on walls.
My interest in Japan's Spider-Man grows more as I watch more clips of it.
The guy is one of the MVPs in the comic Spider-Verse. I love him.
The Japanverse Spider-Man have mecha !
He's awesome and always pose like those power ranger
Birdy Pigeon the Japanese Spider-Man show was actually made by the Super Sentai (original Japanese power rangers) staff in between seasons. His megazord came before any Sentai had a zord so technically that Spider-Man had the first ever zord
Marvel and/or Toei need to release it on dvd to take advantage of the character being made canon in the Spider-verse books.
It is LITERALLY the thing that created the super sentai genre.
We wouldn't have Kamen Rider without Japanese Spiderman.
I hope you’re feeling better
@@juanlauria4554 **fades away**
He should've been a college/working-age Peter Parker
Captain Midnight: Complains about Spidey not feeling like Spidey before he's even Spidey. I've been binge reading the old Spidey comics and I gotta say that pre-responsibility speech peter would totally do that.
Ik his points make mo sense cause he knows the people watching are sheep.
Andrew Garfield is an underrated Spider-Man
The worst crime of this version is how fantastic the costume is in the second one and how we'll never get to see it again or used effectively
I really loved that suit, but wear now stuck with a dull cgi suit in Tom Hollands spider man
@@BRONZALiVE exactly.Everything on it is cgi.Makes it really cartoony.
The first Amazing Spider-Man is a guilty pleasure for me, Amazing Spider-Man 2 not so much.
Angel C same
Angel C for me it’s the opposite
Speaking of guilty pleasures... Does anyone else ENJOY Wolverine movies (not including Logan)... I know they are kinda trash (especially Origins) but somehow I find them less boring than X-men... I haven't enjoyed a single X-men movie except for Days of Future and Past...
It doesn't need to be a guilty pleasure, you can just say you like the first one.
For me its the opposite too
I read somewhere: Toby was a better Peter, Garfield was the better Spiderman, Tom Holland managed to find the balance of the two. And it's very agreeable.
Tom is not it at all lol
Tom's kinda... idk
It just sucks that he's iron man jr basically
xero 9ravity that's one thing that irks me, we need a Tom spidey movie without the mention of Iron Man. Perhaps that could be his arc?
@@cheesecakelasagna would be cool seeing tom acting by himself, without iron man or his armors
Tom honestly doesn’t even feel like Spider-Man
Hopefully Andrew Garfield gets a redemption (TAS3) movie after his great reception in No Way Home.
Oh he will.
After playing the new PS4 game I could see Garfield playing a more experienced Spider-Man in his early to mid-20's. I think his confidence and smugness from these movies would make more sense if that were the case.
@@ryebread117_ sony hates Garfield. not gonna happen haha
I thought that would work too. A more defined,older character would have worked better. Garfield was a good actor stuck in a terrible screenplay.
Yeh
Facts
It's probably because TASM was clearly stitched together from leftover ideas from Raimi's future Spider-Man movies. Learning about the secrets of the origin makes so much more sense when the origin was established several movies ago. Curt Conners was already in the first three films.
The whole amazing Spider-Man series is a colossal missed opportunity imo
Emma Stone is the real waste of talent in these movies. She was the perfect Gwen Stacy. It's infuriating now that these movies may have turned her off from superhero roles altogether when she's pretty much the biggest actress in the world these days. She's so effortlessly charming, talented and charismatic that she'd have been a perfect fit for some major MCU role. Sony is cancer
Emma Stone ya mean? Yes, great actress. Also this series had the equation correct for down time to action time. Homecoming was so erratic it's like the writers where kept up on Adderal for the entire duration of penning the script and it was a huge poorly paced mess that I cannot seem to ever finish. I once fell asleep after drinking a half pot of coffee, and just after waking up from a full nights rest, while watching the newest movie. Just painfully boring and poorly acted. Acting feels like a throwback to Tim Burton Batman years with how dialed in it is and how cheesy it comes off. When a Sam Raimi version of what you are doing is much better acted, you are not doing a good job. I like Sam Raimi and his work, just he has that cheesy campy feel with everything he does and Homecoming felt more cardboard than that.
@@caiusmadison2996 Homecoming is the best Spiderman movie yet
Rishi Joe Sanu thanks for your opinion. I have why I think that is just not the case at all, in any way. Yeah, thanks again for zero elaboration, but ya know, now I know what you think in the most general sense.
@@caiusmadison2996 Homecoming is wayy better TASM series...and it's 3rd best spiderman movie yet(1.spider verse 2.Spider-Man-2)..TASM really didn't feel like a spiderman series..Spider-Man need not to be dark and Spider-Man loosing everything he loved..Yeah it was pivotal part of Peter's life but it's not EVERYTHING for gods sake...and the small moments between gwen and peter didn't even feel real(when it's supposed to be)..Homecoming captures Peter's school life really like what Stan Lee did (which TASM failed miserably) and it's the most important part of Peter's life and Peter's character..TASM threw it in a trash bag and made him into a model(Andrew looked more like 24 than like 15 or 18 year old) High School Peter and Spider-Man is considered as one of the Marvel's most funny super hero comics...I like Andrew as an actor(overall) he's better than Tom and Toby...but screwed it up back then..but sony is building up for Spider-Man good right now..If you have it watch the Homecoming series again...
He definitely wasn't miscast. He killed it. Love Andrew's Spidey.
he's terrible.
@@final_boss1715 Good point. I hate Andrew's spidey. He's buns. He's awful.
@@raphaelrobles8104 your opinion bro. Just climb a tree
U kinda sound like Toby miguire a little bit
Conspiracy
You gonna cry?
@@Daniel-lh8dp you are trash
Rent?
Tobey Maguire*
I've never seen anything wrong with Andrew Garfield, it was the script what was garbage. They said it was easier and faster to make another origin story than a sequel to the Raimi movies, even if that meant another spider bite and watching uncle Ben death again; for me that means they took the only unused script for the first Spider-Man that didn't featured an already used villain and started filming.
Also, uncle Ben and Wen Stacy were supposed to be innocent victims, not morons with a death wish.
Are you telling me an old man shouldn't chase down an armed criminal, and that a young woman shouldn't try to fight a being powered by pure electricity?
@@NCMonefaith lmao
Blame that on Kurtzman. He’s known for writing overly dramatic scenes, even if he has to sacrifice his characters’ intelligence and critical thinking skills to do it.
@@NCMonefaith you moron if an old man chased down a criminal it's bc he wanted to stop him and did you have a problem with Anne Weying fighting Riot. Or Black Widow fighting Ultron, Thanks,and Loki
@@user-vr8ve6rt9c m8 he was being sarcastic
Gotta say love the CGI from this movies, the swinging in TASM2...the suit... *especially the TASM2 suit*
That stuff makes me more optimistic knowing that the same animators for that film will return for Far from Home.
Cyberdemon Mike It’s all subjective pal. TASM2 suit is probably my favourite mask-wise. The big eyes are aesthetically very cool but also endearing & makes him look more wholesome and less scary, something the other films haven’t been able to match
@@KaizerMan I think mask-wise homecoming suit was better, especially with those moving eyes😂 I loved that.
Cyberdemon Mike Can’t agree, TASM 2 suit was everything I wanted and so much more.
@Cyberdemon Mike the tasm 2 was the best movie suit and most comic accurate, reminded me of the ultimate spiderman suit with alterations, if u think it's bad u just blind. best movie suit, no discussion. Plus the fact he made it and the web shooters was a bonus too, tobey had natural Web shooters and Tom got a free suit, Andrew made everything himself.
Midnight: "I'll sound weird because im kinda sick"
Also Midnight: *Sounds Perfect*
AVI ARAD is the major problem with these movies
After Laura Ziskin died during the production of TASM1, Arad had no one to tell him when to back off
He ruined sm3
@@soos8785 And he is gonna ruin Morbius. And here's why
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Yeap, that freaking old man ruined Tasm 2 and Spider-Man 3, because of wanting to make money instead of making good movies
I think Tasm 1 is good tho
@@giorgio-analisis2096 and now he is gonna ruin UNCHARTED
@@Zombiesnyder13 is he in control of all the other movies?
I really think that Andrew Garfield play it very well and that he really loved her character, the thing that messed up everything was the plot.
Emma Stone is the real waste of talent in these movies. She was the perfect Gwen Stacy. It's infuriating now that these movies may have turned her off from superhero roles altogether when she's pretty much the biggest actress in the world these days. She's so effortlessly charming, talented and charismatic that she'd have been a perfect fit for some major MCU role. Sony is cancer
Rishi Joe Sanu yeah I agree.
When I saw her in Superbad I knew she was going to be huge
Bro, you're so right. I truly really liked Gwen. The sequel made no impact on me whatsoever until they (spolier) killed her. I was like noooooooooooo she was the only one I liked.
As for Peter himself, I was too distracted by how pretty he was lol when I first watched the film, but the video is so right about this version of Spidey being too much of an asshole. Other than that I think Andrew Garfield did a fine job! He is very likable.
@@RedVelvetUnderground333 Her awesomeness hit me in Easy A. And, god, I could cry about how good she was in La La Land.
Arunima Tiwari easy a loved it too
this aged well 0:15
It's not happening, plz stop rumours
Being called the worst Spiderman because you are too handsome to play Peter Parker:>
Also here are some good points
1 = his films are worst by the quality
2 = his uncle dies like a idiot and peter is not responsible for his death
3 = he becomes tool for revenge but movie portrays this as a hero moment for some reason
4 = villain had weak motivation
5 = his parents sub plot is just dropped at this film for no reason
6 = one oscorp guy is also dropped in this film and is never returned to again
7 = him breaking promise to captain in the same film as he gave it to him
8 = uncle ben killer plot is dropped and never resolved
With all these problems yeah he is by far worst adaption but i dont blame andrew bcs he is good actor its just that he has trash films
personally I'd love to see Andrew spidey in the venom-verse, having a more experienced spidey would be nice, Having two different interpretations of spidey would be a welcome change of pace
I think going with Tobey would be better because he is an even more experienced Spider-Man than Garfield is.
Yeah, I see Tom Hardy's Venom be very fitting with Andrew
That would have been great. *Venom* felt like it could have taken place in that universe, easily.
@@TheWorstWarlock it was meant to be in the universe, if tasm 3 went thru there would be a venom vs spiderman movie of some sort (possible titles: venom 2/tasm 4/ venom vs spiderman)
We're already getting Into the Spiderverse. There's gonna be more than 2 versions even without Garfield.
The last time I was this early Andrew Garfield was still Spider-Man
Edit: holy Crap I've never gotten that many likes...Thanks guys
Awww I just made that comment
And now I know My comment is uniorginal
I Deleted my comment since I don't wanna be unoriginal
Last time I was this early Uncle Ben was still alive so nobody was Spider-Man
Sam Winchester
That is hilarious
If you're a 12 year old little shit
Andrew was my favorite Spider-Man. I didn't realize he wasn't liked.
Me as well.
I still like Andrew best. The current guy is good too but I hated the Raimi movies
Mine too
Mnason Wheeler yeah toby is a great actor but the movies get wayyy too much credit
@Mnason Wheeler the script for the first movies weren't bad, it was just cheesy!
What's wrong with the TASM films?
The real answer is: Sony
I personally don't like the way the Sony movies look. The production design always looks super electronic and fantastical.
the sony movies? they are all sony movies!?
@@Sophie_the_Sapphic I'm comparing them to Homecoming (Marvel partnered) and other Marvel movies.
Yeah Venom had the same aesthetic I wasn't a fan
Well, the electronic isn't so much of a mystery since they use their own products as product placement, which I'm very ok with
@@Sophie_the_Sapphic No really
I personally feel Andrew Garfield gets too much hate from people if I'm being honest.
Nathaniel Foga I agree. His performance clearly wasn't the issue. It was the writing.
@@parkerboy795 yep since he can actually act very well
he doesn't do much different from them
Imo He’s actually a good actor in most of other films just not as Spiderman. Also they went for a dark and sinister vibe, but most of spiderman char vibe should be lighthearted fun while stopping criminals
Garfield was great, the movies were awful.
Andrew was the best in costume webhead for me. The problem was that he kept that charisma as peter parker
me seeing this in 2022 after seeing 500 fan edits of him on tiktok everyday : -_-
One good thing within the ‘Amazing Spiderman’ is Emma Stone as Gwen Stacy.
Yes
@@ruekiakiya1074 of course
Emma Stone as Gwen is like Hugh Jackman as the Wolverine : *irreplaceable*
Im envious Garfield got to Mack with her in those flicks lol
With emma being my favourite actress...i agree...the only reason y i actually watched the movies
I actually really like/love Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man
Folande Kalan that’s awesome to see that there’s still fans of Andrews Spider-Man
Amazing spiderman franchise is the best spiderman franchise till date it elevated the character more than any other film
N.I.C.K I can agree
I still don't get how people don't see how good Andrew portrayed his role. I don't care what other people say, I LOVE ANDREW AS SPIDERMAN AND I LOVE TASM!!!
got7teendan INFIRESSS MAN TASM all the way
Coming back after far from home, he could be the best if given the right tools he still the show
8:04 "so I spent a lot of time talking about my problems with Garfield's spiderman" he is a great listener
The amazing Spider-Man 2 is a guilty pleasure for me, it brings back great memories of going on Friday night to see it with my bros. I also love the way New York looks in the movie, so alive and vibrant and beautiful and of course that suit is beautiful. Tom Holland is my favorite Spider-Man and Tobey Maguire has a special place in my heart since I grew up to those movies but something about TASM 2 movie that I quite like and it’s not the story or the plot that’s for sure lol
TommyTonk Yeah they should have casted Tom Hardy earlier so that he could play in Spiderman 3
tasm are not award winning movies, but they are entertaining for me and since spiderman is the first superhero I ever loved (and still my fave) I'm happy that I can watch them multiple times and still be entertained. after all, thats the first thing a movie should be. I still give it criticism, but I can't deny that I still like them for what they're worth
One thing I really like from Amazing Spider-man films is the Suit. The spider-man suit looks very organic and real. It has wrinkles, it flutters when spider-man swings. It feel right. On the other hand, Homecoming and Civil war Spider-man suit looks too tight and unrealistic. It feels very CGI.
Look how the tables have turned after no way home
TOM is the best spider man period
can’t wait for spider man 4
I'm glad that Andrew Garfield got his redemption
In my humble opinion Andrew Garfield was a really good Spider-Man but not a good Peter Parker and that is what overshadowed everything and that skewed the criticism to his role as a whole.
IKR!!!
If they would have "dorked" him up alot more before he got his powers, then the angst (especially the bball scene) would have landed a whole lot better. He would have become the "bully" and played directly into the true meaning of "with great power, comes great responsibility".
No his Peter Parker was the best modern adaptation. Andrew acted like a modern day teenager. You can't just go by the comics because one they are outdated and the Raimi trilogy did that alot and people would trash the Amazing films for being too similar to the raimi films.
I read somewhere: Toby was a better Peter, Garfield was the better Spiderman. and Tom Holland managed to find the balance of the two.
Like Batman, there’s two facets to this character as well; and a good actor would nail both Bruce Wayne/Peter Parker as well as Batman/Spiderman
Yeah, I really didn't like his smug attitude.
I feel like the worst scene in these two films is that sequence between Spider-Man and the Rhino at the beginning of TASM2. I just absolutely hated it that Spider-Man chose to stick to the side of the truck and tell jokes instead of trying to save the people that the Rhino was running over. Guess Peter forgot about that.
To be fair he did stop to save max.
@@Marvin-lu3hj Save him from a car flipping over that probably had at least two people in that were swiftly crushed to death.
@@joshuabell7761 If we use that logic, Batman killed in the Nolan trilogy despite claiming he doesn't kill. In these action films, cars are used as props for action instead of human lives. Plus, a film featuring Peter (known for throwing guilt at himself) would have acknowledged it if people actually died.
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It's the writer's fault.I think Andrew Garfield is a perfect spider-man....he just potrayed it with the wrong movie.Put him in the MCU I bet a lot of people would think he's perfect.
Sony was kinda rushing the film in the first place.
The complaint of him not feeling like spider man in the basketball scene is kind of a no shit moment since he hadn’t gone through the whole great power moment yet in the story
His spiderman was awesome, perfect, spot-on. His Peter not so much. But he was great nonetheless!
I agree. My biggest gripe about the Peter Parker scenes was that it seemed like he always ends up crying for one reason or another. 😕
Right he was..to me the best spiderman he's slim and tall and has the right patter..but hes to cool to play Peter
to me not the script was shit him as peter or spidey was not good because he was a ass he couldnt protect the ones he loved and was a dick to others hust harry electro well the villians while toby was more kind and feeled bad defeating killing them since he known and liked them he also protects all that he loves by giving them up tobey gave up on mary jane to dont put her in danger or aunt may harry adrew broke the promise to gwens dying dad to break it off with her and put her in danger or not hepling harry wih the shit illness as a best friend in amazing and to open in the city not carrying about well secret identy he was to close to the people
so andrew really isnt pefect tobey is way better with script and i like tom in homecoming
@@kriegermaria9923 I think that was Sony's point to make him look like that type of person. In Spiderman 1&2. if we would of got a Amazing spider man 3 we would probably see his personality change for the better now that Gwen died in the end of amazing Spiderman 2
I still think this is the best Spider-Man suit hands down.
From afar it looks cool. But up close it looks like he bought fabric from Michael’s
@@kareemsc9913 I mean that's the thing tho, it look like he made it with materials he could find. It dint just appear out of no where like Sam Raimis one or a hand out from Stark. It's not like the home made suit from Homecoming, it actually looks like a Spidey suit. Due to the time skip for TASM 2 I can understand why they dint show him making the suit but from the first movie we can assume he made it himself.
Put those hands back up
@Jason Voorhees Sam Raimis suit doesn't feel right to me. White webbings, the sharp eyes, the lack of webshooters, the Spider logo feels weird it's just preference but I don't like it at all. And that's coming from someone who spends his entire kindergarten time watching Spiderman 1 over and over again.
I don't like it. I think it's hideous
It feels like he has multiple personality. He is a goofy, playful, talkative Spider man and a silent, emo Peter Parker.
ian74747 that was the idea from the start though
a complex multi faceted character? oh no, how horrible
That’s not the problem. If anything that’s a plus. But the thing is is that he isn’t silent and emo. Hell, he’s not even nerdy. He talks to girls, he stands up to the bully, he even gets the hot ass girl. There’s no difference between Spider-Man and Peter in these movies.
Thats how the original spiderman acts, playful confident when usin the mask and shy, reserved being peter
WillFanofMany Not really nerdy though and that’s why people call him a hipster
The only ‘nerdy’ thing about him is he’s smart & stumbles a lot when he talks, but even then it’s not awkward stumbling it’s just cool intellectual-looking stumbling. A bit like how Garfield is in real life interviews like the ones with Amy Adams. Not really a nerdy powerless loser afraid to speak his mind, just someone who’s jittery when they do so & seeks solace from that by regaining power in skateboarding, listening to soft rock music & partaking in other niche hipster activities
and now in 2022 people love him
I honestly liked the first Amazing spider man.
I feel like Andrew would be a really good mature spider not high school spidey if his smugness is turned down,also his complete disregard for human life, in the truck chase scene the truck literally smashes into like 15 cars and they are visibly totalled and he doesn’t even acknowledge it,then he saves Jamie fox and acts like it’s such a big deal, there was just too much stuff that frustrated me like that personally
well the sony version have the best flash out of all the movies
at least it have that
The good news is that the same animators who did the web slinging in TASM 2 are gonna be involved in animating the CGI sequences in Far from Home.
@Art Basement I agree, I never really felt anything during those sequences in Homecoming, sometimes it just felt like he was web zipping.
@Art Basement cause there are no big web slinging scenes in that movie
nigga was still tryin to learn how to be spiderman....... only cool web slinging shots were shown in IW where he kinda got the hang of it
Allosaur Hell Because he didn’t go into Manhattan like the last two. He was just patrolling his neighborhood/Queens. And then Washington DC.
Having the best Flash is like being the tallest midget. They achieved best in a category which is regarded as unimportant. Nothing too spectacular really.
I think part of the problem is Sony chose to make the Amazing Spider-Man movies tonally and stylistically similar to "Ultimate Spider-Man" which was the main spider-man comic Marvel published throughout the 2000's. That's not to say Ultimate Spider-Man is a bad adaptation of the story or character, but it was departure from a lot of the "classic" traits and tropes that people are familiar with and typically associate with the character... factors such as portraying Peter Parker not so much as a lovable dork as kind of a "cool, techy kid" that kids bullied on occasion, or having a deeper and more prioritized relationship with Gwen Stacy as opposed to Mary Jane.
Ultimate Spider-Man was one of many reinventions of the character, and on its own has merit, but I don't think it was a wise decision to draw inspiration from it for the movie version of the character. Ultimate Spider-Man just always lacked some of that friendliness that we all recognize in our friendly neighborhood spider-man, and the Amazing Spider-Man movies similarly have the same issue.
No, you're dead wrong. It was the Raimi movies that started the "socially awkward dork" thing. Andrew's portrayal is closer to actual Peter Parker than any of them.
Tobey Maguire was the one who took from Ultimate. Garfield was pure 60s Parker in 2012.
@@ginge641 exactly, peter was an asshole before captain stacy explain why Spider-Man is not a hero
"His target all look the same, it's like he got some personal vendeta or something."
I see people complaining that Peter is TASM is irresponsible, too cocky and at first becomes Spider-Man out of revenge and not because of some selfless heroism, like YEAH, NO SHIT! THAT’S THE FUCKING POINT! He’s supposed to learn that he’s been misconstruing his selfish revenge fantasy for heroism, that’s why the Stacy scene is in her he needs to learn to actually help people, before the talk he’s being quite aggressive with the criminals but then after the bridge scene he barely throws a punch, proving that he’s learnt to save people instead of fighting them
Andrew Garfield is a good actor, I just wasn't a big fan of his take on Spider-Man
It wasn't his take though, it was the screenwriter's
For me, Garfield used his brain more and learned from his battles then Toby and Tom, which I like about him.
I like both Toby and Tom, though Tom's Peter, not willing to learn and adapt is what's holding him back for me to be considered the best.
What makes you think he isn't willing to learn? In what way? Just asking, I did not understand your point.
@@oof-rr5nf I mean if you watched him in Homecoming and Infinity War, you could see what my point is.
Throughout Homecoming, he doesn't adapt to learning how to beat his foes. Even after settling down to learn the ends and outs of his suit, he still didn't think things through when fighting Vulture or the ship part which lead to him losing the suit, though it shows Tony's hipocrisy. He didn't learn anything after he beat Vulture, he didn't learn to be more patient nor how to use his opponent's weakness to his advantage.
Infinity War just had him put on his mask infront of traffic and on a bus with cameras. He didn't listen to Tony when he was told to stay earth or else he would be in danger, though he was able to help.
@@mandalorianhunter1 okay, I see what you mean but on the infinity war, not listening to Tony is what makes his character ideal. Peter has or is supposed to have a huge sense of responsibility. Peter Parker would never settle to stay.
However, homecoming does ignore the concept a lot until the final scenes. He doesn't feel guilty or any responsibility to much of any of his mistakes.
Heck, for his debut in civil war being 6 months ( I think it was) and to maybe the weeks to homecoming, we never see him reflect back to Uncle Ben.
Even though all the other versions didn't, you can see that Maguire's Spidey did keep the sense of responsibility of his uncle, you can even see some resentment in the second movie and first.
Andrew's Spidey did reflect spidey's sense of guilt better, showcased in the Capt. Stacy dying, Curtis Connor and Uncle Ben.
Although, Holland's Peter does represent his age in innocence. No kid really learns the value of their elder's words until a major screw up so Peter may still be finding that meaning to his uncle's phrase. However, we never really see him pondering or have a call back to his uncle. Even the worries of his aunt flipping don't feel like it's worry for her but worry to be prohibited to wear the suit.
Maybe we will expand and explore more of this aspects in the "far from home" movie but yeah, those are my cents
Also, watcha breakdown video of the fight between doc Ock and Spiderman in Spiderman 2. You will see Toby's Spiderman did learn from his battles far better than even Andrew's.
@@creepermineh That is not really a sense of responsibility as much as it is him making it a point that if the universe ends or his neighborhood is destroyed then what's the point of him being a hero.
I want this because I read the Ultimate comics sense middle school, but I didn't read volume 2 until 2009. In that volume, he tries to go up against kingpin without thinking and he ends up beaten where his idenitity is revealed, but they didn't know who he was so they couldn't do much. Once Peter learned that he shouldn't stop using his brain which lead to him defeating The enforcers, Electro, escaping Kingpin and exposing him to the world.
Also I think you meant Civil War lol and yeah that's what I gathered from the movie. Yeah I watched the train sequence anaylsis video and I agree. I love all the Spidey's and I can't wait for Far From Home, can't wait to see Peter and Fury build a relationship together.
@@mandalorianhunter1 yeah, I've read ultimate comics too. That's why I say Tom Holland's Peter doesn't know the weight of his uncle's words yet just how the Peter it's based off of was cocky during his first fights versus kingpin.
Yeah I meant civil war lol xD
And yeah, I mean, the argument does hold truth. You can't be a hero of a destroyed town. But I feel he also did it out of a sense of responsibility, to contribute to the prevention of extinction than just be a little cure (which he wouldn't have been since he was meant to go poof either way) by helping the locals. He wanted to be an asset since he had power hence the responsibility
But it is true, Tom's Spidey still feels fresh and not committed for the right reasons, atleast to me. But he is just starting out and like his ultimate counterpart, he is still at that point of innocence and just exploring the fun aspects of his powers.
Maybe...he is still learning to cope with Ben's death hence his lack of reflection and constant avoidance of regular responsibilities and just having fun with his powers while hopefully doing good.
It's been only 7 months since someone so close to him died. Maybe he is just coping wrongly and we will see him come to the realization he needs to be be better from the trauma of infinity war
The basketball scene is literally not only peak Spider-Man but also peak Parker. Even since the Ditko days Parker’s always had a chip on his shoulder so tht scene played out jus as it should’ve.
I have to disagree with a lot of your points for TASM 1. Although I think TASM 2 had problems, it was anything but ruining his character.
As for your point of TASM, Peter acting awkward and nervous only appears when he interacts with Gwen atleast, and those were the only times we see Peter placed in situations that makes him awkward. So I don't think it's far to judge that he wasn't awkward enough just cuz we haven't seen enough when we did see him with said portrayal. Also, I actually don't understand how his smug assholish attitude develop overtime, when that literally dies off after Peter finally realises the power of responbility and becomes spiderman post the bridge rescue scene. The basketball scene and the scene with the car thief, aren't moment when Peter finally becomes the hero we know. So his smug attitude makes sense. The way he abuses his power for his selfish needs that's what Pete needed to understand to embody the concept of responsibility.
Similarly, in TASM2, we see him giving up the love of his life. Even tho it's contrary to what both want for themselves. And Peter "stalking" Gwen whether he was only making sure she is safe or he wanted to see him is only human. I understand that back and forth, but who wouldn't when there's two people who is madly in love with each other. Sadly, took gwen to fall to her death to understand the stakes of his action. These are the reasons why I love TASMverse is where they tell stories of a character that is flawed and human and only tries to do the best he can and learns from them. That's what spiderman stories should do, is to teach us audience and the character the concept of "responsibility" and the stakes one should bare. But for that to happen, Peter should make mistakes, should be selfish, be the embodiment of his own conflict... cuz otherwise how would the character grow and learn.
He lets everyone die 😪
To many people for sure
@JPC viral
Yeah, you said it brother! I couldn't have said it better myself. That isnt spiderman. Someone needs to stop that menace!!! 😡
J. Jonah Jameson was right.
@@TheRealComicStacks
I WANT SPIDERMAN!!!!!!
@ Young Potatoes I am hoping they do a long arc with Tom Holland...have that moment where the character grows from angst riddled teenager to a man that understands what it is to truly be a hero. A man that understands the responsibility that comes with his power, accepts that burden, but would never shrug it off or forsake it. I WANT SPIDER MAN TOO!!
I really loved his version of Spidey 🤷🏻♀️
We don't need the emoji. Those are for spastics
@@satnav1980 now you just presumed that most people are spastics. Also change your name before insulting others
Tom Holland’s Spidey is a douche canoe.
@@satnav1980 Your judgement on people based on how they comment makes you look like you petty
@@devjoshi12 *you're
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His spidey is good but not his Peter you're too ignorant
exactly..
Anyone else here after No Way Home?
Revisiting everything Spider-Man ever lol
Yep
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The problem with Garfield’s Spider-Man is that he’s the most irresponsible superhero ever and Spider-Man’s whole character is about responsibility.
Yuya Sakaki arguably he’s more responsible than Tom Holland’s portrayal.
Robbis here's the thing. Tom Holland's just left Middle School in Amazing Spider-Man 2 he is an adult.
Yuya Sakaki doesn’t matter because responsibility is always the main foundation of his character. Even when he is 15 he understands this after his uncle’s death.
Robbis but he does learn responsibility at the end of Homecoming by refusing to join the Avengers
@@nolandavis1129 He's not supposed to learn about responsibility later. He's supposed to learn about it after his Uncle's death. That's the whole theme about his origin story.
I just want to say. THANK GOD!
They changed this spiderman.
Oh and if not Hipster. Peter Parker is not a cool kid. He gets bullied, he struggles in his day to day life, he gets bullied but is likeable because we somehow relate to these struggle.
That's what the Sam Raimi trilogy wants you to think, but in the comics, Peter was nerdy before the spider bite, but became more confident and charismatic after becoming Spider-Man, picking up girls with no problem and standing up to Flash.
@@bodd-energon5502 You haven’t seen the OG SPIDERMAN CARTOON. You should see 1994 Spiderman Cartoon series
@@bodd-energon5502 Also, HE NEVER EVER SKATEBOARD-ED
I just wanted to get my opinion out there, Andrews role is my favorite. Reason being, he sold the depressed teenager to me. How could you possibly be as happy as Tom Holland's role of Peter, when the whole world is going to shit. Don't you think you'd be at least a little sad and depressed if you were the reason the world was still existing?
I rest my case
wait wait... but I kinda liked this interpretation... he's not exactly a nerd, although he's nerdy... he's not particularly a hipster, though he is hip.... but he is more of the sarcastic emo loner kid that simply never made many friends. Probably because of his anti-social personality. I think he was written to be more relateable to loner kids these days.... And I know what you mean about the smugness... but also remember he's kinda a broken boy from the loss of his parents, the feeling of responsibility for his uncle's death. He's kinda naturally got a negative outlook on life so it makes sense. The guilt thing in TASM2 was an interesting concept... I just wish they could have ironed it out a little better. Emma and Andrew had AMAZING CHEMISTRY and I loved watching them together. #TeamGwenForever My only issue with the movies was some of the script/plot choices, the actors being too old (set it in college at least), and killing Gwen exactly like in the comics.
The loss of his uncle is never a focus in either of the two movies...it was always about his parents, mainly his father.
@@NCMonefaith ah, but it was part of his characterization. he wanted revenge. It was important enough for me to remember.
@@ohifonlyx33 for like 2 minutes. Then he went back to crying about his parents.
FINALLY
@@NCMonefaith For almost half the movie man. Watch it before saying shit.
I liked the Amazing Spider-Man
I actually think he's the best spiderman. His spiderman is as quippy as the comics, he helps the little guys IN THE MOVIES, the movies show his relationship with NY, him and Gwen have the best spidey-romance to date, both act like actual humans.. it's just. Great
"Garfield was never going to be perfect Peter Parker. But he could have been so much better"
Well, that aged well.
Sorry to hear you're sick. I hope you are feeling better now.
I think that Garfield was wasted potential and I blame Sony for the bad scripts and reshoots/cuts, he did the best he could do with what he was given.
No Way Home, for me at least, has completely redeemed Andrew Garfield for me and showed me that he can actually be a good Peter Parker and Spiderman