Updating OLD Warhammer 40k! - No more waiting for Games Workshop
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- In this video I am making my OWN new releases. Why wait for Games Workshop when its so fun and easy to convert your own models? I made some Primaris Sanguinary Guard to defend the honour of my Blood Angels army and had a blast doing it.
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Gw releases a "new sanguinary guard box" it's just 5 assault intercessors painted gold with a blood Angel's upgrade spure
😂 Its funny cause thats what they did with death company. I made my own primaris death company with the same method too, I’ll show it off in a future video when I’m done painting it
@@EricsHobbyWorkshop I cant wait to see it thanks for the videos!
@@EricsHobbyWorkshop the death company box is great in my opinion. You get loads of spare transfers.
@@EricsHobbyWorkshop I made primaris vanguard vets for my Deathwatch from suppressors.
And double the cost!
Very nice! I would shorten the stand of the 'landing guy' - being closer to the ground would better suggest the landing intention imho.
Yeah, I agree
The height is as high as it is so the whole unit looks good together it will make sense when you see them together in a future video
While I agree the stands seem too high for my taste, they're not my models! 😁 Beyond that, it's not like base height matters at all in 8th/9th edition 40K, as Cover isn't counted the same way it used to be, so base height really doesn't matter, gaming-wise, so do whatever you think looks best for your purposes!
I'm currently struggling with how to mount some of my Orlock Wrecker models in a take-off flying position (as they seem to have been sculpted on the decent). I do prefer the clear plastic flight stands over a solid black stem, but I'm going to have to get very creative with how to make it work to get the model where I want him over the base, and when in the proccess to attach it... 🤔
This looked like so much fun broski! Those nipple transplants were a huge success, I'm loving the look of primaris sanguinariesv:-) PS I'm actually a huge fan of the overall primaris aesthetic too, but I'll still find something fun to do with this pile of small marines hangin around here...
Thanks man. My brother has a firstborn ultramarines army, so we are gonna keep firstborn units in that army and primaris in my BA. That way we can enjoy em all and the minimarines wont have to look small next to primaris in contrast in the same army
Eric: "don't expect a range refresh".
Me: *weeps in craftworld*
6 months later and it's happening.
@@mjburden8086 lol exactly what I was thinking
Oh my god it's happening
So if this is working... 🤔
Me: *weeps in Imperial Guard* 😂
@@colonelarrow8031 incoming upgrade sprue lmao
Beautiful conversions! The only sad part about this is that you didn't only do GW's job for them (updating the kit) but you had to give them even more money to do it (buying 2 separate kits).
Im not mad at GW. I’ve never been more into Warhammer than I am now. I give them a hard time because i love them lol
@@EricsHobbyWorkshop Nice, I could say the same about myself to be honest XD
Great conversion! One suggestion I have for doing the metal wire flight stand is to coil it exactly the same way, but to drill a hole through the base and push it up through, then green stuff over that. It'll give a 100% bulletproof attachment, and give you more flexibility for basing style
I know what you mean about army updates, although as a Sisters of Battle player, sometimes Christmas does come!
Great advice on the flight stand, I'm going to steal that for my hive tyrant!
🤔 I really thought that was where he was going to go with it. As he added the green stuff to the base, my brain was wondering if he should of drilled the base first or would it be better to do after.
And then he stuck the coiled loop on top 🤔
Caught me right off guard...
Love this conversion, man. I appreciate the segment on wind direction. That superglue/putty trick is a good one!
Thanks man, it was fun to make
It’s generally only the “easy to assemble” models that have Pauldrons affixed. The Assault Intercessors box has them separate.
I've been looking for a kitbash of pose changes and then this hits the table. Thanks man!
A little attention to composition goes a long way. Great conversions Eric.
Thanks man!
Outstanding edits! Your content is Fantastic! I hope you are doing good and healthy!
Thanks! I appreciate that
I really love my Tamiya extra thin, i have two bottles and in one disolved a buch of sprues and now it works like that thick but deposits extra plastic in the join and fuzes them. Real game changer when I heard about trying it.
Wow, I never even would have considered that! Does it still flow through the thin metal tube or do you have to apply it a different way?
@@rogerrange4829 Tamiya extra thin is not through a metal tube but with a little brush. Look up sprue goo on here and you find several videos
@@MrStatistx thx, I'll check it out!
My brother just got into Warhammer, and he went with Blood angels. I might do this for him as a gift.
Awesome conversions! I get a real Birdmen vibe (from Flash Gordon - specifically the 1979 movie) so that in my mind they all sound like Brian Blessed. Cheers!
I wish i sounded like Brian Blessed, hes so awesome lol
always dig seeing the sculpting/converting-related projects you've done! Nice change of pace from the terrain and you clearly have a knack for it! Great work!
Damn! First Henry Cavill, now we´re getting hobby tips from Tom Hardy? Sign me up!
Haha, so I'm not the only one who saw the resemblance!
Editorials: Well said!
Conversion tips: Spot on
Conversion results: Excellent
Comedic relief: Aces
High-Fiving the Lens to close the show: Yeah!
Cheers!!
The Black Templars are proof that GW isn't opposed to doing some chapter-specific Primaris sets. They gotta give BA some more love! Would love some Sang Guard, better DC, Dante... and I'm one of those people that would love to see truescale terminators. The BA Assault Terminators is my all time favorite set, they're so detailed. Love them.
Heroic proportions, that's for sure. Useful info - that and watch the wind direction - and oil on your hand -and...and... and... You are a wealth of hobby tips, and a pleasure to watch.
I thought I subscrided to enough hobby youtubers already, but your humor is top notch, so I had to :D.
Hahha nice
Kitbashing is my favorite part of the hobby, really did enjoy this vid! These "primaris" sanguinary guard are looking so much better!
Tbh it looks like an assault intercessor in the recruit/indomitus box, not the standalone box, which is greatly explain why in this video, it be more of a “monopose” and require a lot more of cut, saw, sand than normal.
@@p_serdiuk well I can get that, but it's quite unfair to buy a cheap stuff and ask for the same quallity of the expensive one, isn't it?
Just did that for the Death Company using assault intercessors and old DC kits I had since 6th Ed. Was pleasantly surprised that the jump pack fit this well without any work
I have primaris DC too, you can see em in my desert outpost video at the end. The old kits have so much character
I thought the title was a reference to Lionel Hutz, and thus that the video was going a different route.
"Updating OLD Warhammer 40k? - No, more waiting for Games Workshop!"
Lol i read that in his voice
Genius comment.
Xenos players have been struggling to get updates for years, especially Eldar, Tyranids and Orks. But it seems even Space Marines aren't getting the updates needed. Which is crazy considering how often they release new Marines.
I think orks are getting love soon. Eldar needs it bad, i agree wholeheartedly
New boys and snaggas are coming bro
"This one was made by a team of writers."
Also, I defnitely agree with you on the smoke plumes, but I also don't like having them supported by something that isn't terrain where possible. To fix this on my Screamers of Tzeentch, I'm going to make some half-destroyed obelisks and arches and just just have the screamers posed like they're flying over them. I'm going to try to have them attached to the structures at the tip of the wings or the base of the tail so that it looks less candid.
Everythings a tradeoff. If you have your modes flying over items on their base all the time, they bring those items to every battlefield which has its own issues woth suspension of disbelief
@@EricsHobbyWorkshop True, but since completely removing that would mean just having a black base I figure I'll go all in with their attached terrain. Kind of like each is a mini diorama. (I do much prefer your wires to the GW clear stems tho)
Agree with you 100% about mini-marines.
These conversions are well thought out and exactly how I've done lots of Primaris conversions.
Nicely done and made me almost go buy some Sanguinary Guard even though I play Imperial Fists.
Modelling for disadvantage! Sounds like me and my Blood Angels! Good job man, I love it!
its cool to have lore to explain the primarisification but "they look cooler this way" is also a totally acceptable reason :) great kitbash!
looks good, great idea and over all cool stuff happy to see more videos from you Eric, i was just about to say the same thing on the topic that first borns can be upgraded to primaris, its part of the official lore and its awesome )
Absolutely gorgeous work my friend, this inspired me!
That bud was DOPE!!! They turned out INCREDIBLE!! Epic poses.
Drill a hole in the center of the base and run the wire up the middle. This allows you to flip the model over and fill the base with epoxy or glue, and maybe press in a metal washer to add weight to the base. Also, given the other players I've talked to, the reason to use boxed poses and stands is that they tend to result in models being closer to the table and easier to place behind cover.
Cheers, I had this very conversion in mind. Not convinced of the flying stands but you do a good job with them.
I dont always agree with your decisions, but you’re very determined and dead-set on your beliefs and I respect that
I like what you said about having cloaks and banners flow the same way. I sculpted cloaks for my Necrons to flow one way for this very reason.
Love the re-posing! I know you said no to an exhaust 'stand', but adding a bit of dust kicked up by the landing guy (maybe a doughnut of fluff with a thin matte varnish spray to lock it down) might take up some of the space and sell the 'landing' motion. Also, if you weigh down the bases, you can bend the wires to move the apparent center of gravity of the mini closer to the rim of the base. This can give the minis a more kinetic 'off-balance' look rather than appearing to hover. Thanks for the great video!
I remember the chatter before gw unveiled the concept of primaris marines but there were a few leaks and people were just calling them truescale marines and pointing out how much better they looked next to imperial guard models to have the space marines be half again as tall.
Hate Primaris with a passion, love your conversion job. Well done, sir!
That's an awesome look to those models, nice one Eric!
awesome. kit-bashing and conversions are my favorite part of this hobby
always wanted to do this, now, with the sanguinary guard updated, this vide jumped straight to my head, definetely copying the first pose and 3D printing a spear for another one :D
I love the minimarines! Very nostalgic bro here!
You might want to try using paperclips instead of black wire. It is more subtle to the eye from a distance (and quite francly even up close) and although thin, it is hard enough to hold the miniature where you want it to be (unless mistreated of course).
Love the new Sanguinary Guard look, much more menacing and worthy of the reputation they carry with them to the battlefield. Great job!
I agree, the proportions of Primaris is so much better. I have a box of Sanguinary Guard and I wish I was capable of doing as you have done without fear of ruining two units in the process.
Large Acrylic Rod 3/16ths and a heat gun to bend into cool shapes for more dynamic pose and/or different mounting. I use magnets to attach for storage/transport. Attach with green stuff and super glue.
Love it man - such dynamic poses! I love your explanations and delivery as well, thank you for the video!
Would love to see your take on "primaris" terminators
Isn't that just aggressors ?
I just put my terminators on higher bases to give them more stature, but i would love to do some larger scale ones
Pete The Wargamer did a video on this, but agree would be good to see Eric's version
@@silenthillfan01234 Terminator Heads on aggressors would look ok …. Probably …….. but amazingly expensive.
@@coalitionofrob436 You could 3d print the heads.
for jet pack dudes ive never liked theflying look anyway, id just have them posing as if jumping to take off or landing maybe have one in the air.
Same! I like the way the ork stormboyz are done.
Agreed. I’ve also used barrels and small walls on the base so it elevates them and makes it look like they’re coming down
@@coalitionofrob436 if you get one of the hollow skulls from the citadel set and cut it up it looks good as if the flyer is crushing it as he lands.
and there are all sorts of bits, from body to buildings to rubble, all with the added part of no weak flying stand.
I used to agree with you, but i did a test model with a regular intercessor and it just didn’t look special enough standing on the ground
@@EricsHobbyWorkshop yeah i get what you mean, especially with a pose thats not meant to be flying
Some art history tip: The heroic proportion comes originaly from the David of Michel Angello.
Some friends are 3D printing some minis and they are putting magnets in the union with the arms and shoulders so can change weapons and some positions. Something like that can fix the "wind blowing" with banners and capes too.
Great work as always.
not sure... for me the link to socialist (and fascist btw) realism is much stronger. but maybe they got inspired by michelangelo, that's true...
Michaelangelos David is NOT in the heroic proportions shown in the video (9 heads tall). In fact, the opposite - David has an exaggerated large head to adjust for perspective when viewing from below.
Some art history tip: The heroic proportion comes originaly from the David of Michel Angello.
thats not a tip at all - just a normal sentence ;-)
@@EricsHobbyWorkshop you are right. I was convince otherwise. Guest that the book i studied was some how manipulated to fix that way.
@@christianpuchert9578 english not my first lenguage, so words mix-up sometimes.
That Cyberpunk-like track that you use in videos is badass and so fitting for 40k content.
I love converting stuff. I actually converted that new Blade master model for Custodes. Since I collect the army already. Most of the pieces to make him are very available and I decided to make the 2 handed sword bigger out of 2 shield guard swords.
You are enjoying yourself, by doing your own poses and models. You're an Artist.
I don't collect models or paint. I came into 40K when I was checking out the art in White Dwarf at WHSmiths. I never new about the Lore for years, even after playing Dawn of war games.
I then saw the Picture of the Emperor fighting Horus, then began reading and learning online. Awesome stuff.
I'm happy to see you make new models.
Just as a major suggestion with the use of wire that way, drill through the base and push the wire up through the base with the coil underneath it. You'll get a bit more stability out of it and it allows more options for the basing.
This hits close to home as a World Eaters player, the Khorne berserker models are the same models from 1996 just updated plastic.
You can hide the wire base with smoke plumes made of cotton and give it a dash of dry brush to simulate dust/smoke.
I've enjoyed watching your progression to a recognized and respected builder among your peers. Always looking forward to what you'll introduce next.
I remember when the sanguinary guards came out.
I got to paint the promo models for the local game store. Gave them a cool paintjob. Got to keep the bits left over.
Damn.... that those are considered old now....
Perhaps i'm getting old :P
This is great. You think like I do and as an illustrator, you completely understand why the new proportions are better. Now I just have to decide whether I'm doing the same thing with my new box of Sanguinary Guard. I can't tell if I wanna go to the expense. But I hate that cartoony kit! It looks older than it actually is.
great video, and the end result on the models is also stunning
Sick conversion man, you turning me into a Blood Angels fan!
Man, thx! Just got my first Blood Angels Combat Patrol. This was a great Inspiration when I want to make my army bigger. They look great! Realy like the one with the sword.
Nice looking Sanguinary guard models. Like what you did with the flying stem it looks like it will hold the figures in the air a lot better than the plastic stems where the model drops off if you touch it by accident.
As a disc golfer, I can tell you with certainty that the wind can blow 8 directions at once.
Dude! What you are doing is what I have been doing for years, I am 100% for this video, but your humorous clips you added in like the zoolander ..... perfect. Made me lol, for real.
It's worth pointing out here there are two different type of heroic styles you are talking about here. The heroic proportions generally seen in art, especially comic books is the one that is about 8 1/2 heads high. 28mm heroic scale, is kind of then opposite. Heads, hands and hand held objects are made bigger proportionately to the body to make them more easily recognizable because they are small miniatures generally viewed from ~half of your body height away (when on the tabletop.)
It's brilliant sculpting ! Well done !
Primaris are a nice idea for releasing 'true scale' marines. It's their lore that makes no sense and is the main reason why people don't like them. The second is their armor looking new and hi-tech in contrast to the utilitarian used future of the classic marines.
Thats only really the "phobos" guys though. The basic primaris armor just looks basically the same as any other marine armor mark to me
_It's their lore that makes no sense and is the main reason why people don't like them._
I'd say, the reason is nostalgia, and the lore make no sense is excuse made up to justify their dislike of Primaris, there's so much more lore that make no sense what so ever, and yet they accept it because it's how things used to be.
@@jeans4484 Biggest glaring issue: they got readily accepted into every chapter without question. Including the super secretive and intolerant ones like Dark Angels. How in sweet Emperor's Anus?
Just something to consider that I’ve been looking into. In Age of Sigmar, the Stormcast Eternals have a ton of units that feel like they are made for kit-bashing , or just flat out using them as a replacement (looking at you prosecutors). Also could use something like Knight-Azyros, Knight-Venator, Celestant Prime, or even Sigvald for the Sanguinor or Dante.
You should look into them, I dont currently have any Sanguinary Guard, but will be using Stormcasts to kit-bash them when I do.
I like the scale to. Sold my Crimson fists army to start over with Primaris. Great work!
Awesome conversion work! Conversions are one of my favorite parts of the hobby (which is why I like Necromunda so much), and this is an Ace project. Also, thanks for not leaning too hard onto the GW criticism; that's one of the thing that turns me off about the scratch-built community in general.
And I totally agree with you concerning the Primaris versions of classic units; that's clearly the direction both the products & the lore are going. There's still a place for the old style/scale SM kits, but they almost certainly won't be making any new ones that way...
It's funny, I hate building.. It's a chore since I want to paint without building first, BUT I obsess over conversions. Love them and made completely new minis out of parts
Just getting into the hobby and stuff like this is really motivating. Brilliant stuff.
This was CRAZY COOL. I don't personally enjoy the primaris marines as much but DAMN those guys look great
I'm a maker not a gamer, so apart from building & painting some orks [to accompany my scratchbuilt ork buggy, I'm not really into Warhammer Lore - but these adaptations are superb little sculpts and will look phenomenal painted up. Great one Eric
Genius kitbash my friend! I really liked the chest peice transplant idea. Thanks for all your effort and inspiration.
Came across your channel because of the 40K scale Imperator and the next recommendation is this. I’ve been playing Blood Angels since Rogue Trader, so anything about them gets my instant attention.
Your Sanguinary Guard to Primaris conversion is not only the easiest I’ve seen it probably one of the best looking. Sadly it’s going to put even more money in GW’s greedy little paws as I’ll have to buy both kits, again. 😄
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Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. The painted squad will make an appearance soon in an upcoming video :)
The thing about the wind... I can relate. Again a great video.
For the base, try drilling a hole through the base, and poking the wire through before putting the model on it. That allows for more freedom for base decoration.
What an amazing job! They look fantastic!!! I'm never brave enough to do this kind of kitbash. Also love the editing in this video. Awesome
I'm so glad that primaris marines are now much more customisable.
When using flying models I like to have each of them lower to the ground than the last because it makes the appearance that they are flying, but they still look like they are engaged with other models when charging
i hope they never stop making the original guards what a awesome kit
They look great man! Only feedback I could give is maybe cutting the toes that were touching the floor off and rotating them so that they are straight like the raised foot - just bc they're flying :)
Never thought about the wind effect before. So much for that piece of blissful ignorance.
BTW - Love the flight stands
That only matters if you are displaying these in a diorama. I guarantee nobody playing with minis actually cares
My first and last conversion of 40K was a gang leader of House Cawdor in Necromunda back in the day. Removed an auto pistol and added a bolt gun to a miniature that had a chainsaw as an offhand. Guy I knew took 1 look and his judgement was "Dodgy conversion". The shame was ever lasting.
That conversion is dope! If I ever decide to do blood angels, I'll try. The only think that bothers me are the feet, they still look like they are on the ground
Glue qaurters to the bottom of the base with the rods, counters the top heavy Really well.
Can't wait to see these painted up.
Just did something similar with my White Scars Vanguard and Deathwatch Veterans. Looks really awesome for Killteam and surely also for bigger games.
this is the exact stuff i want on this channel
vegetable oil is an interesting idea. I have started to use vaselin, that i can apply very thin. I made some greenstufmodls to recast more purity seals i like and i just use a brush to work with vaselin as my moldrelease when pressing the greenstuff into the mold. I love how you made the conversion and it is very inspirational^^ Not being afraid of changes and showing how easy it can be to adapt things is nice.
Really great work here! The attention to detail is great.
I probably would have made the stands just a bit shorter, but that's just my personal preference. Can't wait to see these painted up!
Great work. I think 3D printing may help in the future to get some 'flying feet" to convert primaris legs and feet to make them look more relaxed while flying.
Also I still like old scale marines. I believe it's the fantasy scale with somewhat goofy proportions that caught my eyes when I began the hobby 15yrs ago. When I got back in the hobby after a break, the primiris where out, but I still have a soft spot for old kits of SM, guards, eldar, etc. I also think that it's not the scale that make primaris better looking, it's the monopause !
i love old figures but it's true, nowadays they are out of scale. nice job as always
I totally understand the conflicting wind direction issue, but Mephiston is beautiful, my favourite BA mini.
Very nice looking! This is pretty much the same idea I used for my Vanguard Veterans. Those jump packs are just too good for other chapters not to steal lmao
Wow, you absolutely nailed these! Fantastic work - I can't wait to see them again in a future video.
That looks great! Well done!
I have a tip too, you might want to check out "sprue goo" - basically sprue melted in plastic cement. I find it to be a way better gap filler than for example greenstuff. And it also doesn't suffer from that thing old greenstuff does sometimes, when it dries and becomes a bit brittle. Easy to find a how to make it video for it. :)
I purchased clear plastic rod from the local Hobbytown. I then cut them down and make my own rods with no bubbles in them.
This is so genius. Makes me want to have a shot at building a Blood Angels army again.