We weighted the bikes in Mallorca: Canyon, Pinarello, Colnago, and more, all on the scale of truth!
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- čas přidán 22. 04. 2024
- Rainy day in Mallorca and we decided to test the group bikes on the scale. Great selection of bikes:
Canyon Aeroad, Ultimate and Endurace
Specialized S-Works SL7
Trek Emonda
Pinarello Prince
Colnago V4RS
Basso Palta
Velobuild VB-R-168
Thank you for watching,
Federico
good use of a rainy day in Mallorca! Very interesting seeing the real bike weights.
Absolutely splendid video. It’s what most road riders like to see people showing off their bikes with weights. Thank you so much.
Good to see real world bike weights that include the pedals.
What a fantastic Velobuild. Beautiful!
Oh wonderful video Federico great to see a broad spectrum of today's road bikes.....a rainy day worth spent.
Fantastic video!! Thank you Frederico for making and sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice one, its always fun to see some (very nice) real world bikes & their owners, as opposed to the showroom stuff!
Yes, it was very spontaneous
What to do if it's raining outside? Of course, weigh the bikes! Fun video, thank you Federico :) And respect for sub-7 💪💪💪
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Very interesting. Thank you Federico. Loved the Colnago.
A work of art!
Luke, bravo you legend, a man of culture.. and Mark, what a beauty
Great to see someone else representing a Pinarello Prince. I’ve just got a Prince FX and I’m super happy with it!
I really liked this video! Kudos on taking advantage of the bad day there!
Great video Federico ... rider's love to obsess over weight!
My 2020 x comp roubaix (disc brake) endurance bike weighs in at 7.5kg (size 54), so quite surprised it's on par with those great bikes. Bare carbon, nsw 353 wheels, conti str 28mm tyres, berk saddle, pro vibe handlebar, garmin rally 200 power meter pedals and a mostly ultegra di2 groupset with a dura ace cassette.
A great selection of bikes. Very interesting to see what they all weigh.
Hmmmm. My Stelbel Ti custom frame for my 6’5” frame, pedals, cages, SRAM Red AXS rim brake, Chris King BB, etc. 7.6 kg. Will last forever. Fun video!
Wait a minute. So a group of riders from the UK go on a cycling trip to Mallorca and can’t ride because it’s raining? Say what? I can understand Fed not wanting to risk his life on those rim brakes but the rest of the group? 😂
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The roads aren’t made for a lot of rain. So when it does rain in Mallorca there is a ton of surface water. Makes it much more challenging than the UK.
Why go on a trip and then add the risk?
Would a day missed be worth the trip to hospital on massive descents that have sheer drops?
@@cycling-london very true
I guess you've not been to Mallorca? The roads are very slippy here when wet, reportedly 22 riders in hospital with broken collar bones on Sunday
Thank you Fede for once again convincing me of the brilliance of rim brakes frames (:
Pros and cons, but... 😀
A great vid very interesting to compare the bikes..Pete
As always, another welcome video Federico!
Thanks again!
"RIM BRAKES" 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
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Yep - except for fast descents or rain
@@sparkvideos77 I have done both in Mallorca this week, all worked well
@@fede1275lol no
@@pennyblue6372 with the Hyper wheels I have now braking is great, my Ultimate felt amazing in Mallorca this year
Awesome video Fede!! Even when its raining there you manage to give me FOMO!! All the bikes are incredible but Luke's Colnago is redic!! 😍. But the weight of your bike given the size is really impressive even for rim break!
You would have loved it here!! Next time!
RIM BRAKE CARTEL!!!👌🏻💪🏻🤗
Fredrico you win hands down rim brake still the cream great content again.
Thank you!!
Great videos! :)
Super interesting thx! Aero bikes can get down to 6.5kg pretty cheap if you choose carefully and pick rim brakes. That's a nice combo. For small riders it makes more sense to go rim brake unless you ride in rain a lot. Here's an upgrade tip for your rim brakes. Try Campagnolo Bora red brake pads. They provide more bite and longer life, and after many years, very little brake track wear on my chinese rims. You can use one finger fewer on the levers while descending, and keep your bibs clean at the same time. Hehe.
I use Campy pads to excellent..
I would try Campagnolo pads next, so many good recommendations
@@fede1275 Try the red ones, they have multiple colors with different compounds. Red = bora. Also there's shimano or campagnolo brake shoe compatibility. For non-campy brakes chooose shimano.
Well done Fede , did you actually bring your weighing scales ???? Wow you must have been anticipating the incoming bad weather , stroke of genius that video, the next I can see in the future a Fede visits video seeing all your subscribers and taking about their bikes , weights and reason why they purchased the particular brand. And the bling factor of each build , I hope you actually get some riding in the bag 😂. Keep up the good work 👍🏽
Of course, it was a great opportunity to use my scale 😂😂
Dude waited all that time to smash them all at the end with his rim brake bike... Well done haha !
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Keep doing what you do Fred as its always a breath of fresh air to watch your excellent cycling endeavours & experience not forgetting your insightful & informative contents...,cheers Fred 👊🏾👍🏾
Many thanks!
Thanks for the comparison 👌I’m curious who is the fastest on Sa Calobra climb 🙂
Ed with his Pinarello, 33.28
top video
Very fun video. Had my '05 LeMond Tete de Course (titanium/carbon) weighed at my LBS. It is 8.1 kilos ready to ride. Rim brakes. Race Lite instead of Race X Lite wheels for durability. Gatorskin Hardshell (23mm) tires for the same reason. XTR pedals for the city. Didn't realize it fit so well weight-wise among newer bikes.
Nice one. I would not go fast on the Gatorskins though, bit slippery
@@fede1275 At my age, speed is rarely a concern.
Thankx for making a video like this. I compare my 8.2kg custom titanium bike with Dura-Ace Di2, disc brakes, pedals, bottle cages and computer mount, oh! and my custom built aluminum wheels. I thought carbon was suppose to be more expensive because it offers weight savings but that doesn't look to be the case. The only benefit to carbon is the aero gains but are they really gains when the majority only ride 25kph?
Not easy to answer actually
I'll stay with my 'baum corretto' 57cm Ti frame, 11sp super record rim brake and aluminum wheels at 7.3kg!
good video !!....i didnt realize that the new bikes are that heavy.....my new build s works sl3 tarmac rim brake with campy super record and roval sl55 tubulars comes in at 6.26 kilo's ready to ride except computer and wasnt built to be a weight weenie
Indeed and the bike industry would have you believe weight is not important, however there is nothing quite like climbing on a sub 7kg bike. Rim for road.
@@ridley8340 although !!....though my sl3 wich is an awsome looking bike as well, though being 13.6lbs I often do a 17 mile TT just to push myself for training, I always have a faster time and mph on my venge (rim brake ) and even my old specialized aluminum Allez elite both weighing 16-17.5 lbs for maintaning speed on mostly flat roads with a few rollers..... but..... if I put my heavier vision sl 55clinchers (gp5000) on the bike rather than my feather lite tubulars I can always maintain a faster speed equal to the Venge.....AND IV DONE THIS OVER AND OVER WITH THE SAME RESULTS....SO I WITH OUT A DOUBT BELIEVE MORE WEIGHT FOR FLATS AND SPEED AND LIGHT FOR CLIMBING
Wow, the bikes are heavy now. My canyon endurance 2018 size M with disc brakes, aluminum stem and handlebar, mechanical 105 and Shimano 46 mm carbon wheels is 8.2 kg. And that was the entrance model back in the day.
As having a one-show-bike-can-do-it-all myself (Cervelo Aspero 9.4kg) I was impressed with the Palta. Wow.
Very interesting bike
Federico you are amazing & always positive mood. By the way are you using butyl tubes or tpu ? Enjoy your rides to Majorca.!!!
36g TPU RideNow tubes, compatible with rim brakes. Love them, very fast
Some real tanks there! My current sworks tarmac sl7 weighs in at 6.7kg… darimo post, berk lupina 3k saddle, carbon ti chainrings, roval cockpit…
Very nice, but I bet it didn't come cheap 😀
Shame about weather, unfortunately forecast not great for Mallorca this week.
Question I have is how long are you all there for, because for a short break of say a week or less, is it worth taking own bikes? I've been tempted but I don't have a bike box and where I live it's not easy to find one to hire so for every trip I've done over to Mallorca( 5 times so far) I've hired a bike. Yes I would definitely prefer my own but is the extra cost/hassle worth it? Love to know opinions from you and your companions there.
Weather has not been great, but still enjoying it. I would always bring my own bike, for me it's essential to ride with my setup and with a tool I know. I rent a bike box and it works out around £50 a week, so it's manageable.
Heavy aero disc brake bikes!
Cheers all, and thanks, nice watching.
Maybe on the next rainy day have a game of guess the value of those bikes put together🤟
Rim for the win
Differences would be even greater if some of the bikes weren't in such small sizes :)
I have a 2020 Bianchi Specialissima rim brake (size 53), Campy WTO 33 with 25mm Vittoria Corsa, TPU tubes, Ultegra Di2 (sorry not Campy), FSA Carbon compact bars and stem, Fizik 00 Carbon Seat post, Selle Italia SLR Boost saddle and Favero Assioma dual power pedals.
With all mounts attached it weighs 7.1kg, I'm surprised it is that high but I've fitted an 11-34 R8000 cassette which is heavy.
Great spec and great bike!
excellent video thank you👍
It rarely rains in the Spanish Pubs 😅
Wow, that soloist is a TANK! you can get an aliexpress carbon crank for 150-200 eur, and a lightweight cassette (c230g) for
I know, it looks like a nice bike though and very effective in Tom's hand
Best idea to keep to gang busy on rainy days - shall we host a London version of it?
More bikes to weight, great!!
Of course yours was the lightest 😉🤌
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Viva La Rim!!!
I see you going to disc soon amici, the rain is telling me your thoughts😂😂😂😂😂
Luckily the Hyper wheels are braking really well!
@@fede1275 yes, they do brake good, when raining not that good. But….. still rim brakes for me!! 🤣🤣🤣
Federico, may I ask you, please give your rating of road bicycle brands in terms of respect within your community. From first to fourth. Ridley, Orbea, Wilier, Basso. Thank you.
Don't have the necessary experience, but I am trying to ride more different bikes
ah ah ah grande, l'hai pesata per ultima, di la verità un pò di fierezza l'hai trattenuta dentro😃. d'altro canto i freni a disco si portano dietro grammi in più. c'è poco da fare.
ci sono indubbiamente altre qualità che si portano dietro i dischi, come frenata, e sviluppo delle ruote costante, i rim si portano dietro la larghezza delle ganasce che è fissa e lato ruota l'evoluzione si è fermata.
Assolutamente si!
All that money for that colnago and still over 7kg, crazy.
As my style guru, crocs and socks? Yes or no?
I would be jailed if I were in Italy wearing Crocs and socks 😂
Crazy the amount of bikes over 8kg, but I guess not everyone is focused on weight. I have a Velobuild 168 with 55mm rims, Ultegra R8000 mechanical, weighing around 7.8 but it doesn't have anything special on it. Planning some upgrades which should get it a couple of hundred grams less this season. Costed me around £2.2k.
I own the Velobuild. The issue with mine is the wheels are like 1900g. They ride well (at speed) and look great but I need something lighter. It’d take me back under 8kg.
I didn't buy their wheels, you are correct that they are very heavy. I bought wheels from a company called ProX who have quite a good reputation from Hambini etc. while being extremely good value. £550, carbon rims, carbon spokes, DT swiss style hub. 1400g for 55mm. I'm very impressed with their value and haven't encountered any issues after about 7 months. Used them throughout the winter here in the UK. The only complaint I would have is the rim finish, it seems to be a bit more prone to scratches which I guess is a compromise at this price point.
Should you not fit an alu forewheel on wet roads in the mountains with rimbrakes ?
I do have them for my commuter bike, would not travel to Mallorca with them
@@fede1275 Yes I understand but I thought for the time in wet Majorca you might want to borrow a cheap
alu (fore)wheel for safer braking.
@@karelvandervelden8819 But then you have to change the pads as well and that's kind of annoying.
@@rolffuchs2737 Yes you are correct.
I forgot about that.
boat anchors , may argon 18 gallium pro rim brake , saize 50 paint removed 690 grams fork 280 , wheels 40 front 45 rear tubular rims 620 grams set hubs 252 gr. tires velo flexs 530 gr. wheels 1070 grams pair , 5 .6 kg cost 7000 dollars total .
8:02- that's rear derailleur abuse. store bikes in small ring/small cog to relax any springs in the derailleurs. derp
Molto interessante il video, sopratutto la Palta mi ha sorpreso! Se ti capita di visitare Alto Adige e le Dolomiti, puoi fare un video sulle mie bici, ho due Pinarello bellissime, una Dogma F12 con freni tradizionali da 7kg e una Dyna in acciaio da 7,8 kg, ovviamente tutte due montate Campagnolo.
Magari, mi piacerebbe molto. Sono stato lì solo a sciare
Big tyre on rear for grip when descending????
More tyre = more grip or at least more control to brake with confidence into hairpins
that persons Tarmac SL8 chain is a tad too short and leaving it in both big rings at the same time!! oh no
During my weight weenie days I was able to get my titanium rim brake bike to 6.98kg fully ready to ride. Size 54 with 50mm wheels. Todays bikes are definitely alot heavier. My main bike is easily 8.68kg. I tend to stay away from going weight weenie as the cost just isnt worth it 😅
But it's still nice to ride a lightweight bike 😀
@@fede1275 it absolutely is!
8,6 kg
Merida Reacto 4000 size M, 105 groupset with stages power meter, elite 60/88 wheels, prime Primavera 38cm handlebar, carbon 3D saddle and gold chain😁
Very nice!
Mine goes slightly better, Merida Reacto 4000 disc 2020., CW Expert 440mm carbon handlebars, 320mm aero carbon seat post set with a Specialized S-Works Romin II carbon printed saddle, full mechanical Ultegra 8020 hydraulic groupset with PD-R8000 peddles & last but not least Prime 50mm carbon rims "Black Edition" layed in with latex tubes wrapped up in 28mm Continental Gp5000s black chilli compound race tires.., myself weighs 98kg & my bike only weighs in at 7.625kg., 👊🏾👍🏾
What is the height for the lad riding the colnago? Would love to know….also does anyone have his socials?
Check him out on Instagram @lukemichaeljames
Fezzari Empire Pro??
First time I hear about them?
I'd bought one and it's very lite. There's a lot of plus's with their new carbon frame process.
I'm old enough to remember when Trek Emonda was a lightweight climbing bike of their range
But I guess the majority of riders wanted other features
@fede1275 you can still get much lighter disc brake bikes that are aero too. Looks like Trek just can't be arsed with the Emonda these days
Anything over 7kgs really is not lightweight. It is pretty easy to build most bikes below 6.8kgs these days. My SWorks SL8 is 5.85kg and my Factor Ostro a touch under 6.
Yes, I would add that nowadays you need £££££
@@fede1275 Not really. My mate just built a rim brake Cannondale with Lightweight tubs for1100 Euros, and it weighs 5.9kgs. An easy way to lose weight is to ride tubs; my wheels are below 1kg. Changing pointless steel bolts for alu or ti is cheap and easy. Shimano cranks are heavy and crack - there are better alternatives, etc. etc.
@@CyclespeedTours of course, I was referring to modern disc brake bikes, it's expensive to make them light
@@fede1275 everything i mentioned above applies to modern disc bikes. Another one - swap the discs; Shimano are heavy and not amazing.
that colnago with those wheels would cost a bomb!
Needs a mortgage!
I would love to see bikes over 10kg. Mrrr
Almost 8.2kg for the Emonda SLR 6!!! My SL6 with ugly mechanical Ultegra Disc, a slightly lighter wheelset and saddle is 7.85kg.
Benchmark for a modern rim or disc road bike is max 8kg IMO. Anything above that and you should look into some quick easy/cheap modifications like TPU inner tubes and minimalist bar tape. You can save 300g alone with those small changes.
I was disappointed when build Giant Propel 24 in size L, and get 7,1 kg. In general most of these bikes are heavier than my gravel 🙃
It seems however that weight is not an issue for some
your bike is the best, nothing beats a light rim brake bike.
It works really well for me definitely
3:21 bar knocks knocks on top tube, 3:28 Ed rubs poor top tube to cheer it up, all good but don't do that again Federico - just don't 😁
I blame the loose headset
That Colnago…..big money spent
Bunch of wusses! 😂 part of building skills. I don’t go to Mallorca these days, the last three times it’s pissed it down, better to ride in the uk if it’s wet at least the roads are designed to be wet. The Mallorcan roads are sketchy when wet - you just need to ride accordingly! The main problem there is hotels are not geared up to dry out clothing and shoes overnight. I remember going to Mallorca in 2007 and it rained for a whole week, still go 500 miles in. We were all on rimbrakes obvs back then and the types were nowhere near as good and the stupid ones didn’t reduce their tyre pressure, still running around on 110 psi then! I think I dropped mine to 85 psi but that was on 21mm tyres.
I do not want to say my triban's kilos to make you jealous.
WOW- weighing bikes with pedals!!! What a shocker. Absurd how people still show weights without pedals - as if riders would ride without pedals.
I can see it both ways: here it's better to show the weight with pedals as the bikes are ready to ride, however I would prefer manufacturers to list weight in a standard medium size without pedals for equal comparison.
A LOT of expense invested in those bikes! and all the extras! Wow you guys must be loaded with cash!
The Velobuild fully build DI2 and a Hambini bottom bracket wasn’t much over £2.5k
3:50 that bike 105 not dura ace
Only the crank is Dura Ace
I mean, I ride in the UK all year, the only days I leave it are snow and ice, PUSSEYS LoL 😂
Fede.... "the best of the best" comment.... nope...... #nosuperrecord
I'm not sure I'm feeling the last one though
Pinarello Prince? More like Princess 👸
Because it's white? So Mathieu van der Poel is a princess on a princesses' bike and shpuld ride at the Tour de Femmes?
Love how everyone makes excuses when their bikes are heavy
Even more excuses when we are slow up the hills 😂
Mallorca with rim brakes = aluminum wheelsets
Yes, I remember riding in Mallorca 18 years ago with high-end alloy wheels (Shamals I believe). I never once worried about braking.
I know, but I also want light wheels and aero for hitting the rolling roads
Fair enough Frederico. Maybe some carbon wheels with alloy brake tracks (although they can be heavy)? Anyway, keep up the good work. If you run into a big Canadian group, it's probably my friends. I wish I was there. Ciao!
“Im running tubeless and a waded chain” 🤦♂️
rim brakes the lightest, no surprise and you still have both kidneys
Must be great paying thousands more for an extra Kg or 2 in the disc brake bike 😂😂, I know what on I would pick going up hill
I'm the same, but a lot of riders want other features discs provide
so.............disc brakes bikes are heavy. if you ask pogacar he would go back to rimbrakes.15 years ago bikes were 6.5 kilos
Pogacar is definitely old school, like Froome. The others I'm not sure
@@fede1275 money says what they must love.froomey has been victimised for his standpoint
Over 8kg is criminal for a carbon bike, especially how much they cost these days. My titanium is 8kg+
So there ARE people buying overpriced Pinarellos with 105 lollll
Colnago and pinarello with shimano... is sooooooo wrong......#nocampagnoparty
Yes, but I'm not too sure about the latest Campagnolo offering
SRAM HRD hydraulic force CX1 is lighter (carbon construction: total rubbish) than SRAM rival and 100x less reliable. It’s probably the worst groupset ever made. I’ve replaced mine twice! And it’s very expensive. It’s also horrible to bleed and impossible to repair. Stick with the cheaper stronger reliable RIVAL or even better buy Shimano!
The cost to weight ratio is absurd. All the cope about better braking and wider tyres just shows how the marketing men have swayed the gullible. Go look at cycling press reviews of the original 7800 group and praise for the the braking power now rim brakes are somehow 'unsafe' for the masses 😂
It is really annoying how rim brakes are now viewed as something dangerous. I accept the majority of riders now want integrated cables, wide tyres and discs, to allow less effort on the levers and the ability to ride carbon wheels without wearing them out. Each system have its own features that should be understood and explained properly.
@@fede1275 I must be in a tiny minority then as I'm on the lookout for a lightweight frame with external cable routing like the older lugged Time frames. Rather have ease of maintenance over aero. I can't imagine some neatly routed cables are the difference between being dropped or not in a chain gang.
@@Mafacracer yes, we both are in the minority
Nothing wrong with rim brakes, just keep your distance from the guys on disc on the descents! If specced correctly rim brakes on carbon work great even in the wet. I was in the Dolomites in 2022 and we had quite a lot of rain and also hot days. No issues with heat or braking in the wet, worked very well in fact. Best spec for rim/carbon is Bora wto set up tubeless, and with Campag red brake pads. I was the only one on carbon/rim brakes on that trip that didn’t worry about heat or braking. I was 79 kegs at the time so. It light. Come on- man up!
Your bike, with top spec will weigh 6.4kg, while not one of those "modern" disc bikes go's under 7.1kg. Such Bs
I might do some more tweaks soon
Ugly, heavy, overly complicated, over priced bikes
Got a heart attack at 3:20 for the top tube crack