New Giant Defy v Specialized Roubaix v Canyon Endurace: Which is the BEST Endurance road bike?
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If you’re in the market for a new endurance bike you are spoilt for choice. In this video I’ve picked three of the most popular and tested them to see which one stands out as the clear winner across a series of challenges that matter most if you’re in the market for a bike that is more laid back than a racer.
Specialized Roubaix www.specialized.com/gb/en/c/r...
Giant Defy Advanced www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/bik...
Canyon Endurace www.canyon.com/en-gb/road-bik...
Content
00:00 Intro
00:38 Price
1:23 Tyre clearance
2:03 Frame comfort features
3:07 Design
3:07 Handlebar differences
4:35 Mudguards!
5:33 Versatility
6:31 Geometry
7:18 Weight
8:01 Roubaix riding impressions
9:55 Giant riding impressions
11:16 Canyon riding impressions
12:35 Speed and Handling differences
13:49 Verdict - Which is best?
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The new Defy, to me, looks like the perfect all round race bike actually.
The Peak Torque and David Arthur ticks of approval - phew..... Just bought myself the new Defy Advanced Pro 0, looking forward to getting out there and clocking up some rides
@@paulw677 yeh but the prices are absurd. Will be looking for a frame only and building up with what i already have!
I could happily race the Defy, it generally feels no slower than my TCR but is smoother and more comfortable and easier to stay in the drops for longer. But this bike is flattered by the top-end kit so keen to test a mid-range model for comparison
Unfortunately it seems you can't get the Defy as a frameset for some reason, at least according to one viewer who has tried to buy one
The Defy frameset is available. Top-end frame only.
But my question is, will your recommendations change when we have a new TCR with more compliance and a 35 mm tire clearance? A bike which is fast, great for climbing and is comfortable.
I'd rather have two specialised bikes - race/climb TCR and gravel 45 mm tires than one which does some of it but not that well.
What you think David?
@@DANISHKhanahmadagree 👌
Defy has always been my favourite endurance bike. Comfortable but still sporty, the Roubax and Domane always felt more slack.
Have you tried the Canyon Endurace CF SL 7.0 or Cervelo Caledonia 5 ? Those are good ones too. I just ordered the Caledonia with 105 di2
The Best Endurance road bike is the one that I can afford 😎💯
The best Endurance road bike is one that pays me the most to ride it 😉
Why do you need an endurance bike?
@@diegoeleazar9154because i guess it's the bike that you really & truly want 🤣😂😅
If it was my money?
Preowned - Roubaix SL4
New - Domane AL2 (Rim)
People need to stop complaining about the price of the high end stuff and buy what they can afford.
A $3,500 Allez Sprint Limited 105 Di2 is way more bike than most of us could ever use, never mind a $16,000 Dogma F Super Record EPS.
Love the comparison tests you're doing on recently released bikes! The Crux vs. Grail video was very helpful as well. Like that you also tested them with the same wheels/tires which other publications don't do.
I wanted to love one of these three as my gen1 Diverge is getting on in age, but the new Defy and Endurance are a bit too racy for my needs and Specialized pricing is absolutely criminal since last few years.
When you buy a specialized bike they supply you with 2 saddles . One on the bike and The extra one is to ride you around the shop As you pay $$$$$
Great overview! Interesting that the Giant is rated best value. The Canyon Endurace line seems to offer better components at each price point.
I am very happy with my Domane SLR 7 Gen4. So comfortable and the storage under the bottle Cage is a Game changer, no ugly saddle bags or stuffed jersey pockets any more, for me one of the best Inventions from bike industry since many years.(the storage on the Canyon is much smaller, especially thinner than on the Domane).
Excellent video David !
I enjoy all your videos. I believe my next bike purchase will be the Specialized Roubaix. In the U.S. Specialized gives military veteran’s discount if you register online. Thanks again for the great videos !!!
Nice one, Dave. These head-to-head comparisons are money.
I've been waiting for a video like this. I think I'm going to order the Defy. Just need to decide on which version.
I just took receipt of the Canyon Endurace Aero with the DT Swiss deep wheels and the Di2 groupset. Based on this spec I think it was better value than the Giant. Also the adjustable handlebars were good for me as I need a slimmer bar than mast based on the frame size. The look of it also I prefer from a styling point of view. Overall very happy with it - just waiting for some good weather to take it out now!!
Love my Canyon. It's a great step down from the ultimate. I'm getting older and not faster. So I love the comfort and that it still gives you the sense that you can crank and go.
Thanks David as I always appreciate your honest reviews. One comment regarding tire size as i know this is a huge discussion point these days but as all 3 bikes are endurance based who is really running a tire in excess of 32’s? Back in the day it was 25’s and the trend has clearly changed but if it’s ridden on road 32’s seems to be the sweet spot now. Any bigger and it seems to me as if a gravel bike would be a better choice. Again great review. Thanks
The versatility of these models is amazing, but it all really comes down to how and where you ride. For my roads here on Guam, I dropped the tire size down to 30s for daily use on my Defy Adv SL and I'm thinking about racing it next month with my Cadex 50s with 28s. I sold my TCR because this bike easily covers that territory. I think it will keep me satisfied until we see what Giant comes up with to refresh the TCR.
Very happy with my Trek Domane AL4 and probably gonna be for many years to come 😄
That was an awesome comparison, thank you!
Great video. I love the external cables.
Outstanding review David
Another great video David. I ride a second generation Domane SLR and just wondered if you had any feedback on the rear end comfort of Roubaix SL8 and the second generation Domane SLR that you test a while back? Many thanks.
You are brilliant 🤩 That are my choice of bikes for my next buy 😎 THANK YOU 🎉
David - what a great example of not upsetting anyone. Personally I've had my eye on the Giant Defy for a few years and I'm happy with your conclusion, but people leaning towards the Specilized or Canyon will also be happy. The future shock on my Diverge did 'bob' up hills when I was going for it - never liked it. Changed the springs and couldn't feel any difference.
I’m always left wondering how independent reviews are, given the money making possibilities of influencers.
Reviews are getting really good David. Keep up the good work.
Thanks!
I am very happy with my Roubaix comp 2020. I think it depends how your body is holding up as you get older.
It suits me having a higher front end after previously having back problems and surgery and being used to XC Racing, Getting low is a bit uncomfortable. It definitely is a fast bike anyway, especially after putting on lighter wheels. I may upgrade to the SL8 soon though, because of the wider tyre clearance and the fact that I can put mudguards on without messing around with clamps etc.
As always a great review David. 👍
Thanks Carlton. I forgot to mention but I like how the Roubaix, and the Defy and Endurace to a lesser extent, make it easier and more comfortable to ride in the drops compared to slammed race bikes
@@davidarthurit's crazy the roubaix stack doesn't actually look that high but when you look at the geo it's significantly more lax than other 2.
Years of racing hurt my back now it's endurance bikes only my current bike has a stack of 590 it's plenty fast
Interesting comparison. I have an older model Ruby, and will probably have a good look at the Roubaix (I would really like to be able to mount fenders to my Ruby, plus the bigger tires...). Defy was a contender last time I bought, but I think for me the Roubaix wins out.
I love the roubaix but I gotta say, they missed the mark not including the SWAT storage on the downtube like the diverge has.
Normally I really like the Canyon, but the new model with the tv remote door on the top tube is ridiculous.
The old version (I have the CF7) has 2 bolts for a small bag. No integrated cables. Seperate stem/steer. The only thing they had to add is mounting points for fenders and maybe 5mm extra tyre clearance.
The Canyon grizl is maybe a better allround bike than the Endurace, but for now it looks like Giant takes the lead.
Always good reviews David……hopefully you can get a Cannondale Synapse to compare too. It’s a great bike.
Thanks. Reviewed the Synapse when it first came out two years ago. Think we can expect a new version sans-Smartsense next year? I gather it's been far from popular
Great comparison review. I am looking for a new bike following the theft of my 3 previous bikes. I want something for distance and hills as I try and improve my fitness. I will try the Giant and the Specialized.
Great comparison Dave. Now the Defy Advanced has clearance for 38mm tyres it's given me pause for thought on buying a Contend AR1 (need the versatility)...but not the fact the latter is half the price with the same wheels & gears 🤔
Nice review and comparison. However when comparing the Ultegra models of the Defy and Endurace, the former is $6500 vs $5500 for the Endurace. The Endurace comes with DT Swiss ERC 1400 wheels, and the Defy the Giant SLR1. Both come with power meters. Isnt't the Endurace better value for the money? Of does it have an inferior quality frame?
My Fairlight Secan is my favourite endurance road bike at the moment!
I am running 32mm Conti 5000 S TR with full guards and its doing a great job on commuting to work.
Still tempted by a Defy for summer though!
Was hoping to replace my 2017 Defy with one of the lower models but disappointed by the colours. Think I’ll upgrade my bars and stem with this new Dfuse model till next year. Also it appears that the Defy is available as a frameset in other countries but not in the UK. Sure the Defy would sell really well as a frameset in a neutral colour.
It always seems to me that many of of us buying an Endurance bike want to be able to dial in comfort levels with a fully adjustable cockpit. The integrated cockpit and only 15mm of spacers on the End-yer-race making it fairly inflexible despite the nice adjustable width handlebar. It would be great to cover more on this point. Are the stems available in different lengths and rises. Can handlebars be changed. How many mm of headset spacers can be fitted. The new Cannondale Super Six Evo seems to have got this right. 0 to 55mm of headset spacers. Independent bar and stem and the conceal stem available in both positive and negative rises with a variety of lengths. All this while maintaining hidden cable routing.
How would you say the comfort is on the Specialized Roubaix compared to your Fairlight Strael? I get it's carbon versus steel, but curious on how different they are.
Hi David, do you reckon it would be possible to review the Scott addict? No the rc, but the endurance version. Thank you for the great work.
Defy looks, components and most importantly the ride quality would be the one I would go for 😊 Pete 🚴🏻
How does the fairlight strael, you reviewed a few years ago compare?
I feel like what we considered pros and cons came to rider preference. I've ridden each of these, was a specialized dealer for years. I went with a canyon Endurace Ltd. Did a few changes to get it to 7.2kg , I prefer mechanical being I ride distances and dont care for electronics failure. I also swapped wheels for vision SL 55's. Also going with the Ltd model it eliminated the top tube compartment completely making it a splash lighter. Bike came at 7.8kg so I did well.
Great insights, thanks. Decade long Giant Defy rider here, it’s a toss-up between Defy and Endurace for my new bike next year.
Would love to see how the Domane and RoadMachine compare.
Some great deals on the Giant TCR now. With 30mm tubeless tires it is plenty comfy enough.
True the TCR is very comfortable for a race bike but it's not as comfortable as the Defy with the same tyres due to the seat post and handlebar. Then there's the difference in geometry which you can't replicate on the TCR. But granted if you want a decently smooth race bike and can live with the geometry the TCR is awesome. It's why I have one!!
Good work Dave
And what about Merida Scultura Endurance? Did you ride this one? What is your opinion in comparision between these three? Thanks!
Great summary. Giant certainly seem to deliver if not exceed on best product for price
Its a great video and I love David's reviews, but the pricing is off - comparing apples to oranges here. The Enduraces are usually $500 to $1200 cheaper than the Defys for similar specs.
The Specialized Roubaix is the clear winner for multiple reasons: No PressFit BB, best in class tire clearance, best design & engineering and carbon layup, best built in suspension setup.
also is the clear winner in the ugliest bike award. i'd take the Defy any day of the week over the roubaix (& that horrible company specailized).
Totally agree, I have the 2020 and this new one has all the upgrades I wished for. Especially the tire clearance.
I own the '24 Defy. I can run Maxxis Rambler 700x38 on my ENVE AG25 gravel wheels, which is rad. The Canyon is esthetically appealing but those frames are kinda meh. The Roubaix, is atrocious looking and the suspension gimmick is nonsense IMO.
WRONG, for multiple reasons. and Giant knows how to do press-fit BB's and create a literal perfect blend of true versatility and near race bike performance.
I was coming here to say that the Spesh is clearly not even in the race here. More expensive, ugly design, useless future shock. I guess different strokes for different folks
All fantastic bikes but the Defy wins it for me. I’m pretty sure I’ll be getting the Advanced Pro 0 but I’m quite intrigued by the Look 765.
I got the Adv Pro 0 few weeks back and it is really nice, can’t go wrong with it!
I had a defy 2020 advanced 2. Nice bike but a bit boring. Sold it due to financial reasons. Bought a 2015 canyon endurance cf 10 second hand. The canyon is a far better bike despite being 5 years older. Nearly 2 kg lighter, faster, better on the hills, more fun to ride and more comfortable.
Would love to see a review of the Scott Addict (Endurance) bike
Giant ticks two important boxes for me. First, its cockpit geometry, based on an easing of the TCR geometry, is an easy fit for many different rider builds. Second, it achieves its "endurance" ride the old-fashioned way, with no fancy technology. Just slacken the angles, extend the stays, and raise the head tube a little.
David, I really like your vids and consider u an excellent source for reliable and accurate info. I almost always agree with u except for this time. (I know u have a soft spot for Giant btw) with that said I think the Giant is incredibly mediocre, despite their carbon quality being excellent. They lack the much desired compliance tech that the others have so IMO they r kind of “yesterday” in terms of technology. I think the TCR was amazing back in the day, but they haven’t done much since.
I still respect the hell out of u tho, and will continue to enjoy ur channel👊🏼
Awesome video! Love the way you discuss technical differences, and also your impressions and personal perspectives!
Quick question - I have a Diverge. As far as I can see, the new Roubaix has very similar geometry and now comes with the same wheels (Roval Terra CLX). I know it is a bit lighter, but is it any faster / feel much different than putting 32mm tyres on a Diverge?
Thanks, and a good question. I reckon with the same wheels and tyres there'd be little difference in riding speed and power required. I might try putting some 38mm Pathfinder tyres on the Roubaix for a chuckle
Interestingly enough I am waiting for my new Giant defy 2024 advanced pro 0 👍🤩
Buyers who want a more sporty ride with the Roubaix can drop the spacer count & ditch the hover bars. Makes a major difference in the ride.
I did that for my 2020 Roub. I love it. It's a big comfy sofa compared to my old carbon road bike.
It's the first bike I can comfortably ride a century on.
What would you choose between the Roubaix SL8 Comp at $5K vs. the Defy Advanced 1 at $3500? Both have 105 Di2. Is the Future Shock worth the $1500 premium?
I don't know what is going on with pricing in the UK but in Canada, the Ultregra di2 equipped / carbon wheeled Canyon is c$750 cheaper than the similarly equipped Giant. So how is the Giant a better deal??
Can anyone tell me what light is that in 5:21? Looks super sleek.
Very happy with my Giant Defy 2022, which came with SRAM Rival eTap as standard, and only cost £2,800.
Just about to get a new to me SL7 roubaix for long distance riding. Hopefully it's a good ride!
Hey David, I always love your reviews. I bought a canyon endurace and I'm finding theres a lot of flex in the stem. Especially at speed the handlebars seem to rotate more than the front wheel by say 10deg either side which gives me a lack of confidence over about 35km. I felt like I was on the verge of some speed wobble. Did you find this?
Hi, can’t say I found that issue but maybe you’re more powerful than me? You must be pulling on the handlebars with a lot of force??
Great review, thanks David. I've been thinking about a new Roubaix and your review helped convince me that is the right choice.
Glad I could help!
Go for it you wont be disappointed. The front end damping is fantastic no matter how rough the roads get around here.
Love the new Defy but now i really want a Fairlight Strael. Interested how they would compare
@davidarthur Great video. In future will you make a similar video for gravel bikes?
Thanks and yes keen to do more comparison reviews like these. Any specific suggestions?
@@davidarthur Video like the best " race" gravel bike or best gravel bike for adventure, best bike with the same spec, or endurance vs gravel, race gravel bike vs adventure gravel bike in bikepacking😆.
David, can you compare the defy with an aethos?
Out of the 3 I'd choose the Defy.......but with my own money I'd go for a Cervelo Caledonia
Why? You don’t want to be bored to death by one of these three?
@billfrigo7602 Really? How much $$ is on the line when you ride with your mates? Why ride a Grand Tour replica when you don't ride anywhere near fast enough to take advantage of even the marginal aero gains? Boring??? Any of these bikes, in the right hands, can maintain with any uncomfortable race replica you care to name. Wanker.
@@billfrigo7602 say what? the Cervelo Caledonia is a sluggish near dirt bike (re. slow) compared to these new upper-end Defys.
How about the BMC Road Machine?
Haven't tried a Canyon bike yet (the shipping and import taxes to S. Korea ughhh) but as someone that has owned past iterations of the Roubaix, Defy, and a Domane, the Roubaix has always been the most comfortable, Defy the most well rounded, while Trek has been the fastest. If I had to choose one today for everyday riding, I'd go with the Giant.
Thanks for the comparison👍 Is there a way, to put a Redshift stem (with integrated flex/suspension) on the Defy? ...or maybe even better on the Canyon Endurace? (would be too short for me anyway, although, one have to pay quite a bit for this one-piece carbon handlebar, just to throw it away immediately, haha)
Not that I know of I'm afraid - might as well just buy the Roubaix
I was waiting for the new Endurace but the top tube plastic cover is a dealbreaker. Now saving for a Defy.
2024 Endurace CF is out without top tube box, but top tube bag holes. (much better),
what about trekking bikes for long distance travel? I got a road bike with flat bards (and bar ends for comfort) street fighter style, and I prefer flat bars to drop bars. Also I find typical road bikes devoid of enough easy gears. Light trekking bikes exist and they are 1X drivetrain (my fav) while having similar cassettes compared to MTBs, so you can find trekking bikes with 11-46T or 11-51T sprockets. These type of bikes get very little love, yet they can be amazing. The Riverside 920 from Decathlon and the Canyon Roadlite 6 (gorgeous bike) are very good examples of fine trekking bikes. You can fit almost any kind of tyre on those, too, from 35mm slicks to 38mm gravel, etc.
I love my Giant Defy completely agree with you.value for money is great
Saving money for the defy as my n=1 race and comfort bike. Race bike because I don't want to have a race bike with at least 30mm of spacers and 90mm stem. The defy with some 50mm deep carbon wheels is fire.
For the easy days and rainy days, some 36c tires on a 2nd set of wheels.
And if I want to go light gravel I can even swap the stem for a shorter and inverted one to get a higher position (still working on that given the hidden cables).
Since the brake hoses don't run "thru" the stem, you could still swap stems easily at the minor expense of seeing a little bit of exposed hoses when you switch to "gravel" mode. I do like your idea of using the Defy as a race bike, though. I might try mine at an upcoming race next month.
@@danaponik5276 the detail with this Defy is that giant moved to a d-steerer shaped fork. I'm not sure that steerer accepts any stem. I'm going to figure that out with a giant bike store near me.
@@PedroPrego good eye! There's a few companies out there that make a shim to fill that D-gap if you want to use a regular round OD2 stem.
@@danaponik5276 that's very good to know. Thanks!
Love my 2020 roubaix expert. So plush and very fast.
I think you can buy a Fairlight Strael and replace the rigid stem with a suspension one to get a Roubaix for a fraction of the price
The top of the line Roubaix with Sram Red or Dura Ace is much higher in price, making the top of the line Canyon more attractive. I would have liked to have seen the latest Domane slr7 compared. It has only one spring rate up front and the iso speed decoupler on the seat post. The storage location is also better. It may be due for an update as well
I doubt the Domane will be getting an update soon! The current model is 2023 and was released late 2022.
@@deangough4167 yes it’s too soon for an updated Domane and the Synapse as well, but looking forward to their updates. I have a Synapse RLE1 and I would like to see better cable routing and a more comfortable seat post
I want the ride position of the Roubaix without the FS or exposed cables. I like the Defy but it’s too low for my back.
As a novice rider that occasionally commutes, it would be cool to see a comparison of the aluminum endurance bikes. I also wonder if it's worth the upgrade to carbon for a bike that is mainly used for commuting.
For commuting probably not.
There's no need for a carbon commuter especially if it's going to be locked up against a pole or bike rack etc.
@zoozu2067 yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking. It would be nice to have a carbon bike, but for what I do, it just doesn't seem practical.
All great bikes, not sure any of them would disappoint- I’d be happy with any of the 3, I know that….
Which giant defy model is in this comparison?
Does bmc road machine have a chance against the defy?
Nice video
Nice review like others you have done recently. Would have liked some info on angles, trail and wheel base with your view on how that affected handling. For me an Endurance bike is not just comfort but confidence at speed on poor surface in all weathers. Before considering these I am looking at BMR Roadmachine and Look 765 Optimum. Realise you can't test everything but a follow up vid in the shed comparing what else is out there would be interesting.
Hi, i would like to hear you about Focus paralane 8.9
How about Roubaix vs Diverge on gravel
For me, I’m looking for a “racy” bike with geometry that fits me. The Look 765 Optimum is what’s got my attention. But out of these 3, I’d choose the Defy
The 765 is a little on the heavy side
I have a 2023 Endurace CF SLX 9, and while I like it I don’t love it. Thinking about selling it actually.
I'm surprised at the assessment of the Roubaix. I test rode one and found it to have a extremely aggressive, low and long geometry compared to my 2011 Defy. With riser bars but a drop stem and back set seat post it seemed to be made for racers rather than normal riders.
I agree, i used to have a 2011 Defy and my 2020 Roubaix is definitely more aggressive than that was.
I drive with both redshift and suntour saddle post. The redshift only makes a difference going downhill but the suntour is king😊
would you recommend it for doing 100-mile rides on the road
@@redauwg911 not for speed and responsiveness
i REALLY wanted to see Trek's Domane in this comparison, actually considering it together with the Giant and the Canyon... Dammit Trek, should have sent him one!!
love to see a BMC Cevelo and merida in the mix
That one piece handlebar/stem combo on the Canyon, what were they thinking - tech/aero focus that creates other issues in pursuit of a little extra speed. Great group test review David, let’s have some secondhand comparison tests, price points and tech on new bikes is getting a bit daft
Trek Domane is my choice. A real shame that they didn't send you a bike to test.
Hi James, I ride for speed and climbing but can you test bikes that are made for these trials....... Compare endurance versus road bikes , trek, specialized,canyon, Orbea, Cannondale bikes under 7K Thank You!! Robi :))
How relieved Dave must be he didn't include the Vitus Venon in this list given the situation with Wiggle/CRC 😬
If the saddle suits me, if the gears are to my liking, and the frame has the right size it's rather all the same for me which bike i would ride.
As i would only use an endurance bike on the road, 32mm clearance is enough.
As the canyon has a one piece handlebar I wouldn't buy it without trying it out first, and i don't like that top tube tool compartment.
The specialised is a bit too much gravel bike, and I prefer having a special gravel bike rather then switching wheel sets, so the giant defy it is.
Could you do a review on the new Lauf Úthald?
I'll see what I can do
Can’t decide between a Giant Defy Advanced 1 or a Trek Domane SL6. Anyone got any horror stories of what to avoid.
My opinion is the brst bike for this category is Pinarello X
What about the Cube attain? Easily in that league yet cheaper.
Shame not having a Domane for a direct at-the-same-time comparison. One aspect that every bike reviewer is missing though is whether the wider tyre clearance of this latest generation of endurance bikes is gained from more outwards flare in the chain stays so you do not have the clearance to mount a 54 tooth Shimano front chain ring (you also need the front derailleur mount to allow a higher fitting for the wider diameter). Personally I just want a performance road bike with endurance geometry (stack / reach ratio 1.5+) not an all-road or gravel bike so wider tyre clearance increasing frame weight and restricting gear selection is a negative.
The Canyon has a 52/36 chainset, which even I thought was too big for the target consumer. Probably worth checking with the brand direct to ask this very specific question - I try and cover most bases in my reviews but I have to consider length and viewer retention
@@davidarthur that's a fair response David and thank-you for taking the time to comment. Canyon customer service reckon you could fit a 54/40 to an Endurace but the impression I got is that was more from the position that there's nothing to say you cannot. I am wanting someone to size up the spacing - I reckon I could tell from looking at the frame with a 52/36 fitted and I am not a professional bike reviewer like yourself. In the context of finding new content for CZcams that is not the same as all the other reviews it is a perspective you could consider in the future. One additional point when you are thinking about the "target consumer" is why do you think there are CFR, S-Works and Advanced SL 0 versions of these bikes and who is buying them - you might find a few of them being ridden to places higher up the Strava leader boards than you would expect.
I really wanted the Canyon, but I couldn't get past the lack of adjustability in the stem.
Seems like the more expensive a bike is, the more that you're confined to a small amount of adjustability.
Would you do a gravel comparison
I think I could be very satisfied riding a Defy.