PART P WHAT IS IT? The Building Regulations and Approved Document P.
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- čas přidán 23. 01. 2021
- In this video we will look at Part P of the Building Regulations and how it affects both the electrician and the householder.
We keep hearing about Part P of the Building Regulations, but what is it, in simple terms?
And how does an electrician, or any other tradesman comply with the requirements of Part P and what are the implications for the householder.
Does it apply to industrial or commercial work and what are your legal obligations?
This short introduction to Part P will help you to understand what it is, why it is there and how to comply with the requirements of the Building Regulations, which after all, are a statutory requirement.
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The best teacher ever this guy!! Teaches in a way you can easily take it in…..this goes for each and everyone of his video
Surely he was a teacher in the past
Thanks Adam, great feedback. No, not a teacher to start with. Started life as an electro-mechanical engineer and slowly drifted into teaching other engineers and electricians as well. It is important to me that people know why something happens, not just that it does happen. Thanks again. Dave.
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Thank you Adam. Thanks for the support.
Subscribed now! Currently on my level 3 and trying my best to become super familiar with the regs and OSG. This video was reassuring ThankYou!
Thank you. Lots more to come. Over 200 videos on the LearnElectrics.com website.
Thanks for this, you have cleared up a number of issues for me.
Thanks James, glad it was of use and thank you for watching. Dave.
Thank you. Very good presentation.
So pleased you enjoyed the video, your feedback is really appreciated.
Dave
Thank you that was brilliant..
Thank you for the really nice comment. It is appreciated.
New subscriber here 👍 what a brilliant channel to learn and understand the way electric works. I have had the unfortunate experience of using and unregistered electrician , consumer unitit moved , works done in bathroom and kitchen so all notifiable work etc. At the time I didn’t have a clue about the governing body’s for sparks , I just though an electrician with a sign written van was an electrician 😭 The sparks at the end of the works done did what I now know is an eicr and said oh this will cover it mate, as me been green behind the ears thought oh this must be the paper work you get , little did I know it’s not worth the paper it’s written on as there’s no mention of consumer move or bathroom works etc I have been told the only way to have the work (signed off certificate) is to have it redone by a proper registers spark😭😭 very expensive but live and learn I suppose. But this channel is helping me to understand the way the electric works. As you can imagine it’s knocked my confidence with anything to do with electrics electricians etc ,cheers 👍👍
Sorry to hear that but it is a lot more common than you realise.
You should have been given an EIC - Electrical Installation Certificate and that can only come from the original installers.
If you ask an approved electrician he/she can only issue an EICR - Electrical Installation Condition Report, but that is usually good enough for insurance purposes etc. A full Inspection and Test to get an EICR will take a full day depending on size of property and cost a few hundred. Don't be fooled by a quicky for eighty quid. A proper inspection takes several hours and will be anything from 6 to 10 pieces of paper. But you say you already have an EICR, if you trust their work do you need to get another. We will be doing a video on EICR soon and it will be on the new website too. www.LearnElectrics.com
Good luck and thanks for viewing our videos. Dave
@@learnelectrics4402 cheers dave 👍 thank you for your reply. Yes keep up with the videos mate be very interesting to see a vid on a full EICR . I think for the scenario I’m in I will go through the stuff that has been done and like you say get a proper trusted registered spark to re do the works , more for peace at mind for myself knowing that it’s above board and safe (with certs) and also for the time it comes to sell the property no bloody hassle 😂😂🤯🤯 cheers again 👍👍🙌🏻🙌🏻
Glad we could help in a small way. EICR video is scheduled to be done in a couple of weeks. A few of you asked so we'd best get our finger pulled out on that one.
Keep watching, lots more to come, spread the word. Dave.
Would relocating a consumer unit, without changing any circuit be notifiable?
Definitely does need notifying. The fact you take a wire out and put it back in again counts as work on a consumer unit. Thanks for watching. Dave
Hi Dave. I believe a Competent Person Scheme, such as the full-scope NAPIT one requires 2 years experience. My question is, would it matter if a person had been out of the industry for say longer than 2 years, immediately before registering for part P, but prior to that had had 15 years of experience - working for an approved contractor and then as a sole trader under a NICEIC domestic installer scheme? The person has the right qualifications according to NAPIT for full scope. Obviously they would have to brush up on things - refresh and be up to date with BS7671. Could they simply work for a few months until they get a couple of rewires under their belts to use as examples - or would they be expected to work for 2 more years before being accepted on to a scheme? Many thanks.
It's up to the assessor at the time and how they feel you are working etc. This is how it worked with me. The initial decision "to try you out" would be made by the head office in Mansfield in conjunction with the area manager and based on all your experience and whether they think the gap is outweighed by the previous experience together with recent activities. The area manager would then phone the field assessor and inform them that "Fred has been out of the game a while but see what you think" You would certainly need 18th edition, they may ask for an Inspection and test qualification or similar, they may suggest that you attend one of their in house courses before being assessed.
Phone them up, they are very friendly and will do their best to help you. Every application for membership has its own unique points and Napit are a good scheme provider. they may ask to see old qualifications, don't send originals, make colour copies or email them. Hope this helps. Dave.
@@learnelectrics4402 Thanks Dave for your prompt reply. I understand how you would want to observe and get a feel for things on the day of the assessment - that's a good approach. When you say "to try you out". Do you mean to try you out as in letting one on to the scheme in the first place? or to try you out on the day of the inspection? Many thanks.
On the day of the assessment. Every assessment includes a practical assessment part, on the day, where we ask you to test 2 or more circuits that you have installed. Depending on the assessor they may suggest approval and full membership or membership subject to you doing a, b, c etc. and possibly a second visit. Talk to Napit, some of them will probably still remember me. Make sure that before the assessment day that you have everything ready, all paperwork available as per the videos of mine. Being organised and impressing the field officer with your professionalism from the off is a good thing. Don't worry about the assessment, they are there to help you become a member, not to stop you. And everybody is as nervous as a pig in a sausage factory on the day so you're no different.
Good luck. Dave.
Superb video, new subscriber.. 👍
Thank you for your encouraging feedback. We try our best. Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the subscribe.
Lots more to follow.
Dave
@@learnelectrics4402Hi Dave, that's great, looking 4ward to more content, I'm slowly going through your existing videos, appreciate your knowledge and ability to pass it on so well. 👍😊.. What do you think to these domestic installer courses like Tradeskills4u.
Choose your training provider very carefully. Visit them before parting with any money. You want a centre that has test boards and practice boards for you to work on. How good are the instructors, are they from an electrical trade background or just "teachers". we don't make recommendations or advise as such, but you need to sure of what you are getting for your money. You are paying for expertise not just how to pass an exam. That's my thoughts. There are some very good centres out there. If you already have electrical skills and other qualifications plus sufficient time in the trade you may only need to do 18th Edition to join a scheme, check with the likes of NAPIT and NICEIC for their requirements. Phone them up. be pro-active before you spend any money.
@@learnelectrics4402 Hi Dave, thankyou again for your advice there, I've no prior electrical quals, other than pat testing nearly 20 years ago.😬 I'm in my 40's and after a change, wish I'd done it years ago, is there a way to direct message other than through CZcams. Regards and thanks
We are just transferring web hosts and we will be setting up a contact page in learnelectrics.com. Give us a few days to sort it out. It sounds like you may be best starting from basics if you have had a twenty year gap. I really urge you to visit a centre and discuss in detail the way forward. When it is covid safe obviously. Meanwhile, keep watching the videos, they are all on topics you will be taught.
Only one problem, trying to find an approved electrician to certifie some one else's work is extremely hard as they will not. Take on the responsibility if something goes wrong,
Say you are asked to certify someone's work say a bloke you know down your local pub, you go to the job you do all the tests visual checks and then you sign it of and issue the required documents, but didn't tell about the two new circuits in the garden shed didn't and a week later it all go's up in flames, you are now in deep doo doo because you cirtified the installation as be safe. Now who in there tight mind is going to put them self in that situation.? Great video mate as always very interesting. Thank you
Yes, absolutely right. Even though the third party notification scheme has been running a few years now there are not that many electricians that will take it on. Most prefer to certify just their own work.
@@learnelectrics4402 and rightly so. May I say I wish we had you when I was at college maybe I wouldn't be the moneing oldfart I am now. Isn't it lovely getting old LOL
Sean, that last comment of yours actually means a lot to us. We must be doing something right and we really do appreciate your comments. Stay lucky my friend. Dave
@@learnelectrics4402 your welcome mate keep up the good work
The Moor I watch the the better my brain works can never learn to much.
@@seandempsey9396 Learn to spell, no wonder your an electrician
Northern Island ???
Northern Ireland and Scotland have their own rules which are very similar to Part P. thanks for watching. Dave.