How To Apply 9 Types Of The Enneagram To Any Story - Jeff Kitchen

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  • 4:21 - Type 1 - The Reformer
    7:12 - Type 2 - The Helper
    7:49 - Type 3 - The Achiever
    10:16 - Type 4 - The Individualist
    11:01 - Type 5 - The Investigator
    13:39 - Type 6 - The Loyalist
    22:34 - Type 7 - The Enthusiast
    23:24 - Type 8 - The Challenger
    24:26 - Type 9 - The Peacemaker
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Komentáře • 29

  • @filmcourage
    @filmcourage  Před 11 měsíci +2

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  • @ccwoodlands1565
    @ccwoodlands1565 Před 11 měsíci +27

    I used Enneagrams in the last script I wrote. The challenge with Enneagrams, that I find, is writing a series scenes such that you move your hero from unhealthy to healthy in a GRADUAL and believable way. Your hero can’t be unhealthy throughout 90% of the script and then “suddenly” healthy at the end. It’s a great tool but you still need to work in gradual growth.

    • @authorharleyreid
      @authorharleyreid Před 11 měsíci +1

      In real life, you would only likely move through 2-3 three of the nine levels of development, the key is to start them slightly unhealthy, then between the inciting incident and dark moment, they would decline to the lowest level. You can then use the aha moment/critical choice and the climax to start moving them to a healthier place. For example, you could start your character at level 5, drop them to level 6 in the decline and bring them up to a level 3 or 4 during the climax, etc. That should get you a really realistic character arc.

    • @chrisdayz_
      @chrisdayz_ Před 5 měsíci

      @@authorharleyreid underrated comment here! Idk why no one replied. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 thank you

  • @justinianj569
    @justinianj569 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I've been attending Jeff's course for two and a half years now, and his method is the equivalent of having access to what Aristotle did in the Poetics during the golden age of Greek tragedy.
    The difference between Jeff's work and many of the formulaic methods out there is that his teaching is focused on learning the fundamental tools and underlying principles of scriptwriting, and not on teaching formulas consisting of tips and tricks.
    For instance, by focusing on a powerful Dilemma for the protagonist that paralyzes him or her internally, one crystallizes a compelling storyline because Dilemma dramatizes the story and keeps it centered on the protagonist.
    Then by identifying the protagonist’s personality type with the Enneagram and seeing how that type interacts with the Dilemma, the story gets deeper and more complex, while adding internal dimension to the protagonist's character.
    The Dilemma builds to a Crisis, forcing Decision and Action about the Dilemma and propelling the protagonist toward the Resolution.
    Also by reverse engineering the script using Reverse Cause and Effect, we get at the story’s essentials and keep away from the profusion of unnecessary detail that can kill a script. Taking the time to develop these tools paid off for me.

    • @filmcourage
      @filmcourage  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Thanks for sharing!

    • @justinianj569
      @justinianj569 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Absolutely. Thanks so much for putting out these videos. Jeff is an extraordinary teacher and it was through your channel that I found him. I'm really grateful for this and I hope you keep putting out more of his material. My writing has improved tremendously.

  • @julius-stark
    @julius-stark Před 11 měsíci +1

    I hadn't really looked into the enneagram until I started writing my first novel. It really helped me to flesh out the conflict between my threat main characters, as the story's theme was disillusionment and I needed my three characters to respond differently from each other.

  • @ScaryStoriesNYC
    @ScaryStoriesNYC Před 11 měsíci +3

    When I was a teenager, I had a copy of Timothy Leary's Mind Mirror, a primitive computer game based on his theories of the personality that this guy is talking about. You could answer questions about how you would behave in situations to determine who you were on the scale, and you could answer questions differently to understand how and why other personalities do what they di. It was invaluable for learning to write, and I wish I still had a modern version of it to play with. Leary was a great genius, under-recognized because of his sensationalism.

  • @whitemansucks
    @whitemansucks Před 11 měsíci +2

    This solves many problems in both story telling and game design.

  • @dreamcatcher5502
    @dreamcatcher5502 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I find this helpful to overlap with the character types.

  • @chancelewis6514
    @chancelewis6514 Před 27 dny

    This video was very helpful thank you once again guys 😀

  • @justinianj569
    @justinianj569 Před 10 měsíci

    Thanks so much for putting out these videos. Jeff is an extraordinary teacher and it was through your channel that I found him. I'm really grateful for this and I hope you keep putting out more of his material.

  • @phoenixr6811
    @phoenixr6811 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Interesting never would have thought of this☺️🤔

  • @nickybjammin7629
    @nickybjammin7629 Před 11 měsíci

    Yes! good stuff 🙌🏼

  • @subramanianramamoorthy3413
    @subramanianramamoorthy3413 Před 11 měsíci

    Master Jeff Kitchen points are great to hear.
    His hands are bigger than his body while he talks

  • @filmcourage
    @filmcourage  Před 11 měsíci +4

    What do you like about this video?

    • @dreamcatcher5502
      @dreamcatcher5502 Před 11 měsíci

      I like the breakdown of each type. It would have been more helpful to relate them to multiple movies with each type. I have no idea who the robot, father or son are. Very confusing.

    • @filmcourage
      @filmcourage  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Thank you for the comment. More info in these videos here (as it relates to a group of videos we did developing a story idea). bit.ly/3KB6hyr

  • @Kiki-alienmom
    @Kiki-alienmom Před 11 měsíci

    Which book from The Enneagram Institute was he reading from?

  • @jaysonp9426
    @jaysonp9426 Před 11 měsíci +1

    You'd be better off using horoscopes

  • @Hosenanzugtasche
    @Hosenanzugtasche Před 11 měsíci

    If you ever wondered why so many characters are hard to relate to, it's because of quackery like this. There is literally not a single tangible thing about the enneagram, it's astrology.

    • @AmethystWoman
      @AmethystWoman Před 11 měsíci +1

      I think when you walk out of the movie theater and it doesn't fit or hasn't made character sense, it's because they DIDN'T follow the Enneagram and it has made their characters very unbelievable and flawed in an.unnatural way. If you really study and know the enneagram, you would see that it absolutely works. Don't bash what you don't understand or don't wish to know.

    • @BlaZay
      @BlaZay Před 11 měsíci +3

      First of all, it's just a tool, not a gospel. Second of all, it's very easy to find overlaps with pretty much any character archetype in it. A Heart, for example, will most likely be a type 2 or 9. A Mentor could be a type 1 or 5. A Lancer might be a type 3 or 8. This allows you to use a given type as a skeleton for a character, and its various declinations to flesh it out in a way that inspires you while preserving an internal logic to it. Third of all, characters are always more grandiose with their traits than real people, so this makes classifiers like the Enneagram all the more interesting and effective in that context.

    • @Fangtorn
      @Fangtorn Před 11 měsíci +2

      Of course you can't actually divvy up the entire human race into a handful of personality profiles, but purely as a character tool, it's useful.

    • @authorharleyreid
      @authorharleyreid Před 11 měsíci +2

      If you are not relating to so many fictional characters, it is probably because of bad writing. The truth is, enneagram is used by writers, even on a subconscious level but of how they read people - it is even used when casting for reality TV shows (where most of the contestants will be 9s and 6s, with a few 7s thrown in to act as villains) or chat shows (where pretty much all chat show hosts are 6w7 - David Letterman, Conan, James Cordan, Ellen, Oprah). When a character feels off, or is unrelatable, it is usually because the writer has not got their motivations aligned with their character type - for example, they might have a type 9 character but types 9s are more likely to go with the flow and have things happen to them, so in order to move the story along, sometimes writers will force them into a different type so they get action (Ted Lasso is a good example of this in season 2) - however, it feels wrong to the reader (they usually do not know why, but they know it doesn't quite fit). If you actually take the time to look at the enneagram, or even get yourself typed, I think you would be surprised how acurate it actually is as a personality typing tool.