DOMINIQUE WILKINS WON THE CRAZIEST EUROLEAGUE FINAL!
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- čas přidán 6. 04. 2024
- BasketNews Retro crew Donatas Urbonas, Augustas Suliauskas & Gytis Blazevicius watch and react to the 1996 European League final, where Dominique Wilkins was playing for Panathinaikos and where one of the craziest game endings happened.
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The ball is for panathinaikos because the clock stopped
When Wilkins came to Greece he wasn't overweight. People thought he was overweight because he was huge. The first practice was open practice for the people to see Wilkins and when he got up and got his warmup t-shirt off to change, people were stunned with his physic. He was build like a mountain.
Korfas the short guy shooting one hand was in fact one of the best shooters, Greek American btw, but already past his prime at the time
Different times, different era.
Thanks for the video.i am a panathinaikos supporter and i was 12 years old when this happened.i remember watching it at home i couldn't stay in one place ,and i was so nervous i couldn't watch the last minute.
Vrankovic alvertis yannakis oikonomoy Dominic ,all LEGENDS.
I feel old after watching this video... I remember watching it live.
I just cant describe the vibe and the feeling I had as a teenage fun of Panathinaikos during those days.
Probable i was hyped for a month or something
All Greeks have kept waiting for that FIRST European cup for at least 7-8 years, when teams like Aris, PAOK, Olympiakos kept falling short..
Everyone knew it was a matter of time but the question was whose gonna make it first.
Then Dominique came to Athens and delivered without saying anything. He knew this was his one and only job to do.
thnx for the memories ⭐☘
John Corfas the one handed shot guy was a Greek American who used to play for PAOK. All his shots were one handed, even the three pointers. He had one of the highest percentages from the free throw line at the time and he was a bulldog on defense standing on 1meter74cms.
Mad respect for you guys, as a Greek I cant but admire how you Lithuanians live and breath basketball. The chant is something I would never expect to hear in a foreign show. 😂
I was 10 years old, die hard Παναθηναϊκός supporter. I remember watching the final with my sister, screaming like crazy, woke up our parents from sleep when Vrankovic made that block 😂😂 But what I'll never forget, is that my dad took me to watch a Panathinaikos game that year. I actually saw Wilkins dunk in front of me. 😬 Still the biggest NBA legend who crossed the Atlantic.
Hi i think the main reason for Dominic coming to Panathinaikos where the lockout of the Nba 95 and 96 .Great Greek from Donatas😁😁
Byron Scott is the best that came from the NBA to Panathinaikos! EVER
The chant is: "Ήρθες στην Ελλάδα για πικνικ, Ντομινίκ, Ντομινίκ"
Nice try from Donatas though 7/10
Nice video.
Yes, that was the chant that the Oly fans were singing for Wilkins.
Dominique wasn't overweight. He was fit and his body was like a bodybuilder next to the players of that era. One other thing is that the friendly game that was packed, is a game that Wilkins didn't play well, but he managed to do an amazing follow up dunk at the end of the game that got everyone from 0 to 10 of excitement in a sec. Generally he had a rough start in order to get used to the slow pace and the short spaces and of course the zone defense of the European basketball. But after mid season he started being the Human Highlight Film and he was good and crucial in most of the games he played. The coach was a huge issue for him though...
some other notable NBA Players' that played to Panathinaikos
1996: John Salley (NBA Champion with the Pistons)
1997: Byron Scott (NBA Champion with the Lakers)
1997: Dino Radja (from the Celtics)
and not forget to mention Rony Seikaly before he joined the NBA
So much memories. Thank you guys…
At the same time there was a counter chant by pao fans towards David Rivers (point guard of olympiakos) with the same rythm, saying basically: You came to Greece for shrimp David Rivers David Rivers😂😂
It actually rimes if you sing it in Greek 😂😂
There is a clear foul on Giannakis and then the clock stopped. So everything that happened afterwards it's like never happened. They should have stopped the game.
That was the exact chant, you 're absolutely correct Donatas! The opposite chant mocking Olympiakos' legend, David Rivers, was "irthes sthn Ellada gia garides David Rivers, David Riiivers...", which means you came to Greece to eat shrimps 😆 Those were the days for us 40year olds! Basketball had become our national sport after Greece won the european champinoship back in 1987.
Guys, with all respect, Panagiotis Giannakis also had very athletic body. Strong, durable. Very consistent in defence also.
I think this case is sad but very simple. The clock has stopped, so according to rules Barca must start her offence from out of bounds with 4,9 seconds remaining. We can say it is unfair (although i prefer to say very unlucky) because they had an open fast break. The basket should not count because the clock stopped before the fast break. I am not sure about the block though. It is obvious that with todays rules the basket should count but i dont know what the Fiba rules back then were saying (actually here in Greece there is a huge argument about this). Finally, it is very unfortunate to say that this clock mistake was very common back in those days and it had happened again in the last seconds of another Euroleague final (Batalona vs Olympiakos 1994). In my view, PAO was better at that final (there were some controversial moments against both sides because of the two refs as you correctly pointed out) and they won it fairly.
did you even noticed the clock stopped exactly when it was finally clear the spanish guy got the ball alone in the fast break..!? and started counting again when panathinaikos was set on def...!!? now, you can't tell me this was a clock malfunction, there's a hand involved there.... a greek team had to win one at that point, and we all saw how greek b.ball evolved after that (the market was already very big, arenas was fuller than anywhere...) and yea the rule was the same. don't know about previous mistakes, but job was already done and almost everything goes to hell cause giannakis steps on a wet spot... that simple
@@georgemarco11 With all the respect but manipulating a game by stopping the clock doesnt make sense (too much digging i believe). If you want to fix a game then the refs should take over. The refs didnt do a great job for both sides, probably because they were only two and they tried with some bad calls to control the game. For me the most important thing are the teams, Pao played better in that match except for the last minutes. I strongly disagree about Greek basketball. Greek basketball was already at elite level in Europe from the 80s. Both Greek clubs and national team had great achievments (Aris going to final four, eurobasket 1987 etc) and as you said the market was already big. Just because a Greek team didnt win a Euroleague (they actually won other Europe cups like Saporta before that one) doesnt mean that Greek basketball was not already succesfull. That 1996 eurolegue was not only the beginning for Pao and Oly to conquer but it was the epitomy of a huge effort from Greek basketball that started from the 80s.
@@kostaschatzidakis8289 yea, no logic when in panic mode...
@@georgemarco11 Exactly
@@georgemarco11 According to your logic, then whoever stopped the clock clearly benefited the Spaniards since they have unlimited time for their attack...plus the clock resumed as soon as the ball seemed to reach Spanish hands again
The guy shooting free throws with one hand was John Korfas. 1.78 m tall.
Back at the 80s the Best Greek Basketball Clubs located at Thessaloniki.
Teams like Aris and PAOK running all the Greek Basketball Leaguewith players like Galis, Giannakis vs Prelevic and Fasoulas.
Those Teams created the glory Greek national team of 87 and 89.
Aris try to capture the Euroleague Title at 3 F4 and PAOK at 1 F4.
It was at the Early 90s that the Clubs from South, Olympiakos, and Pao, take the Lead of the Greek Basketball.
Fiba had to say sorry to Barcelona a few years later for that last vrankovic block. Although if we want to be fair, the shot clock should expire before Barcelona got possession to begin with.
I would also like to check whether there was a foul on giannakis before he fell down. In any case, the organizers sucked.
Not exactly, they apologized because they couldn't repeat the last 4.9 sec. Based on the FIBA rules both the block or Barcelona's basket never actually happened.
@@yanni2737μαλακιες λες
Fiba said sorry for all the referee mistakes, not just the block against Barcelona
You need to stop watching tsoukalas... Enough with the fake news
Based on the FIBA or today's Euroleague rules, the match should have been stopped when the clock froze and played from the side. So in reality, neither the block or Barcelona's basket ever happened.
great video guys👍
Great videos guys congratulations
John Corfas the one hand shoot guy was one of the best 10-15 shooters in Europe back at the time and less than 1.80 meters
Thank you for the video guys!Great analysis.The game should have ended long before of what happened at the end but that would spoil a beautiful story.Stojan will always be our hero!
It would be nice to watch the Buckler (Virtus) game against Real with yours comentary.I think it was a rematch of the 1/4 finals in 1995-96 when Arlaukas scored 63 points and had 11 rebounds without a single three-pointer. The game is very important, Real Obradović is on the bench and point guard Pablo Lasso :) The Italian bascetball league was stronger than the Spanish and greece one at that time. Virtus, Timsistem with Carlton Myers, Stefanel with Tanjević,Bodiroga,Beneton with Rebrača,Henry Wiliams...
Are you kidding? Alvertis is one of the best shooters ever legendary player, Yiannakis amazing defender scorer does everything... They would be great in every era
Donatas slaughtered the chant💀😆
Donatas did good job in general! ))))) Dominique didnt participate in the last game of the greek final series, but in previous games he had good performance and some 2 crazy (almost) b2b dunks in Olympiakos's stadium (PAO fan here, 15 years old when the final took place)
Back to 90’s I was 21 years old ! And I remember the game like yesterday! Also I remember the song Dominique Dominique you come in Greece for picnic Dominique 😂😂😂😂😂❤A was the basketball in Greece like celebration back in those days 😂😂
I actually preferred hoops back then. Except the 30 second shot clock. My lasting memory of Wilkins in Europe is the famous 4 point shot by Sasha Danilovic over him in Game 5 of the Italian Championship in 1998, Virtus vs. Fortitudo.
How the fuck you even know about Dominique pic nic chant....lol
Best basketball content here.
Nice video guys.
Just a small comment, Barca’s basket could not have counted at the end. You can’t count a basket with no shot clock. The most fair thing to do would be to give the ball to Barca with 4.9 and inbound from PAO half.
Edit:spelling
The hero of the game was Stoyan Vrankovic. Last second coast to coast block
Thanks!
lol at "part time basketball players".
Economou was probably the best Greek offensive player for a couple of years during mid to late 90s, while being a great cutter, with great insticts for offensive rebounds despite his lack of athleticism. Good shooter, great footwork, fakes and generally excellent offensive IQ.
Alvertis has been one of the best catch and shoot shooters Europe has ever seen and his shot was essentially unblockable.
Giannakis in his prime was battling with Galis for scoring titles in Greece, but even while he was 300 yo he was still a serviceable traditional point-guard, a great defender and one of the best hustle players.
Vrankovic, while he was probaly a top-3 defender during that era in Europe, would probably be the one whose game wouldn't translate well today. He had a good hook shot but nothing more than that and he was too passive offensively despite being tall as hell. Fasoulas for example had a much better offensive game while providing great defense too.
The rivalry in fans chanting throughtout the previous years was all about who was gonna take the 1st european championship between the 2 greek teams. They went to the final 4 a couple of times before and Olympiakos won the semi against PAO but lost on the finals. So when Panathinaikos went to the final for the first time everyone knew this was the opportunity to be the first. Noone really cared when they lost the domestic title without dominic, it was all about Europe from that year.
Dominique won the euroleague in his first year with Panathinaikos, now Kendrick Nunn will win it in his first year.
I think Pao will make the Final Four, I don’t think they’ll win the Final tho.
No illigal stop cause the rules were clear back then..... It has the ball to going DOWN to basket for the stop to be illegal and the 2 points be counted
If you don't know John Korfas then you don't know enough about European basketball. Back to school ASAP.
I think Giannakis was found before he lost the ball.
Do you guys know when the ball coming off the backboard first started to be called a goal tend? I vaguely recall in old times the rule only to check if the ball was on the way down or not.
Wow! Championship block! Didn't know that about this game.
The right way is 'irthes stin ellada gia picnic Dominique Dominique'! Greetings from Greece (Aris fan)!
Malcovic had the name that he disliked american players. Deyan bodiroga was in barcelona and after that he declare if you can win them join them on press
the biggest NBAer who crossed the Atlantic.
Even if the stop from Jankovic was illegal, the shot should never have counted.
Even if you ignore the fouls on Yannakis and Korfas , Panathinaiko's 30 seconds were over when the clock got stuck but the horn never blew giving the ability to Barcelona to have a fast break on an empty court in 5 seconds.
If we go with today's standards and do a forensic analysis on the game, Barcelona would have had to score on a 5 second attack against a set defence.
Instead they were given a fast break on an empty court with the timer not running.
and he also lost the craziest serie A final
The block was legal vre murwdiades
Vrankovic took rebound at 36.5 sec, so at 6.5 the shot clock should have been stopped and Barca has the possession out of bounds in a 5 against 5 situation. So if the basket had been counted, panathinaikos would be the team that would have been stolen. Thats the only truth about this game.
1. at 5 seconds where Giannakis falls he is fouled and the shot clock expired anyway so the play should have been whistled dead; 2. on the block, yes it does touch the backboard, however the fiba rule at the time was even if it does and the ball is still in an upward trajectory, which it was, the block was legal so it's not goaltending and 3. the game clock stuck at 4.9 seconds for what seemed an eternity. In conclusion Pana would have had more grounds for appeal than Barca so the right team won despite this comedy of errors
Ήρθε στην Ελλάδα για γαρίδες, Ντεϊβιντ Ριβερς, Ντεϊβιντ Ριβερς,
Regarding the last sequence, before the goal tend, Vrankovic was fouled.
Of course the block was illegal but no time=no game!!!!
Το Ελληνικό λειτουργούσε. Μαλάκα γέρασαααααααααααααααααα!!!
For those wondering the final block is valid. No basket. The ball has zero chance of hitting the basket after the board. Barca player got scared of Stojan and short shot it. A simple replay from behind the basket shows that clearly.
LOL :D :D
Panatanaikos was great at center line with Stojko but Olimpijakos had Fasulas,Tarlać.Arapović,Welp and Savraseno on the centar.Duda at Oli and on bench,Maljković at PAO bench.
These type mistakes are happening still. Think about Sergio Llull travelling just before his last shot at the last year's final against Olympiakos
Artic
What traveling??? 😂
Watch F4 semi final 2010. Partizan-Olympiakos…
Donatas, nice greek chant there, mate. Absolutely correct ;-)
this win,was not inspiring to noone in Greece apart from PAO fans or oly fans next year,the revolution of basketball had already happened in 87 and the 80s Aris team,it was not such a big deal winning the euroleague for Greek clubs as you must consider that the greek teams had to compete in the best league of the 90s,it was kinda like calcio in football.
I' m not a Pao fan by any means, but I don' t think that 1996 Pao would have been destroyed by 2024 Pao ; they' re teams from different eras, so if these teams faced each other with rules such as 30'' shot clock or hand-check rules that allowed harder defense and true physicality then the 1996 would have most likely won. The 2024 would be faster, I give you that, but it' s not like they'd have a larger rotation either. Plus , take a look at the personalities, Giannakis ,Dominique, Vrankovic, Alvertis on the on hand, just Nunn on the other.
Βro I am a Panathinaikos fan and I can ensure you today's team would destroy 1996's team.It's on a totally different level.It's called evolution.
Rumors said that the last block is still legal…
Eddie Johnson =>Olympiakos, David Rivers=>olympiakos, Roy Tarpley=>olympiakos
Biggest theft in euroleague history ,that trophy was Barcelona's trophy.
Modern days panathinaicos would beat this panathicos by 40 points, dumbest take I have ever heard. Just look at jokic and doncic, "superior" athletes dominating nba, lebron 40 years old still top 10 players in nba as he qlwas 20 years ago
The video makers do not know , they are prejudice because they are young. They praise Alvertis who they know and say nothing about Yiannakis who was 10 times more legendary in European basketball.
true title
panathinaikos stole the trophy and next day fiba was apologising to barcelona
You are wrong my friend before the stop they foul at gianakis and after that the clock stopped so the ball had to be played from the side don't twist the truth , this is well known so no apologies tbh if someone deserves it is PAO and was winning the whole game for 10-15 points
@@user-lr7pj2ey3y So you put in discussion a what if scenario!and a foul that was not called....... Right ....sorry to frustrate you and your green feelings...
Stolen title is the conclusion no matter what alternatives you bring up with your imagination.Everyone knows that even Pao's fans accept it when they are in their day of honesty
Since when facts and truth are alternatives and have colour it is what it is and you can't speak for PAO fans because if you were they will told you the same thing so think whatever there a lot of videos who explain for you to understand since its to complicated for you rules are rules and its the last thing that i say it's the first time and the last that i respond to a message in CZcams and now i realise why i did it everyone is so stubborn and can't accept facts or different opinion
That was a theft!
Really...?While the clock was stopped for about 10 seconds during Barcelona's offence? Lol
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