BPD & Avoiding Sadness | MARSHA LINEHAN
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- čas přidán 13. 04. 2017
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Marsha Linehan gives a quick note about how she handles her BPD clients' inability to tolerate sadness without help.
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Allowing myself to experience sadness it is the best things that has ever happen to me for it is very therapeutic.
Me too, that’s why I talk about it on my channel constantly but people are scared of themselves and their sadness
i landed in the mental hospital 3 times so tell me how is it therapeutic
I was diagnosed bipolar which I call manic depressive, along with ptsd. Today my therapist used the term "borderline personality disorder" and when I asked her if it was a diagnosis of me, it was at the end of our session and that we would talk about it next week. With regards to sadness leading into an abyss, that is totally accurate. My depression was so deep and dark that no human yet has been able to help me out of it. I have gone into the abyss and emerged. For others, perhaps they cannot escape, which I could see leading to suicide, something I have tried twice. That said, I firmly believe that if a person can allow themselves the possibility that there is hope despite all evidence to the contrary, they can emerge from the abyss with insight and strength very few people do. Please be patient with yourself!
I love Marsha Linehan. She gives me hope that I can one day help others like me who have BPD, like she did. I still remember getting diagnosed right after my 15th bday and finding her story in my own research online. Almost 10 years later and she still inspires me.
How did they diagnose you at that young age?
Hope you're doing well :)
Yep....
I can handle anger....my sadness goes way to deep.
Yes to this...sadness, grief...overwhelming --anger I can become exhausted and talk myself down...so anger is a choice.
What I think it’s interesting is I’ve heard/read people with BPD experience answer but not sadness as much. I have BPD but am the exact opposite, I experience extreme sadness but don’t experience anger much because … I’m trying to avoid and not experience anger. Trying to live in a balance 🙏🏻
This short video is somehow therapeutic for me. I can't tolerate sadness.
Because it validates your experience! 💜
This is so true!! I have been in a deep depression for 2 months now so I finally contacted a therapist. I met her for the first time this week and she was able to validate me and pull me out of it- something I’ve tried SO hard to do myself and almost got there but then spiraled back down. I’m not a cutter and I got sober 13 years ago- the drink was my way to numb my depression. So when it happens now it’s not very manageable
This came up in my suggestions and after watching it I could directly connect it to my daughter.
She always said - happiness will never last, at the end there will always be sadness.
I love this woman ❤❤ Facing my sadnness lately has had a powerful effect on me; I realised its value, and learnt not to fear it. It was difficult, but I gave it space.
It takes courage from the therapist, that´s for sure.
These videos are really helpful, thank you so much for creating them!
Ty Marsha
You save lives
sadness grows to points its not worth looking at the sadness any longer
interesting...say more?
Jes i wanna hear more
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change
I wouldn't even begin to know how to avoid sadness. I can't even imagine except maybe compartmentalizing?
Does the opposite happen? As in, all people feel is sadness, but maybe what they're actually feeling is anger? Or something along those lines?
That's such a good question. I wish I knew the answer. I'm guessing, yes. If anger is a feeling one struggles to tolerate, perhaps one moves too quickly to sadness.
Empaths tend to prefer sadness to anger...
Anger is often identified as a secondary emotion. There may be times when thoughts and myths prompt other emotions or an emotion, and anger could potentially be a secondary emotion due to that. With my experience working with clients with BPD and there is sadness the secondary emotion is anger. However, I do believe people can just experience anger and no other emotions have to be attacked to it.
Anger and shame are important emotions to. They form our boundaries. If someone is crossing your boundaries your anger should step up to let them know you have boundaries. This mirrors shame. If you cross others boundaries and they get angry you should feel shame and adjust to not cross their boundaries.
Good 👍🏼 video
That is exactly what sadness feels like. Lost in the abyss.
I doubt anybody could get me out of the abyss. I'm in too deep.
I have explosive crying that is unsettling. I don't think most therapists can deal with that.
Thank you for this. Wishing you well. -P
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Sería maravilloso tradujeran el contenido del canal al español y otros idiomas, para difundirlos con mayor facilidad.
estoy de acuerdo...dices, con subtitulos, o psicologxs hispanohablantes?
What is it when you cant get out of sadness? Could that lead to self-harm or suicide?
I do not understand something! I hear a lot of therapists...the idea of "plain old therapy" in general being about forming an attachment, or NEEDING the help of a therapist to heal from feeling like you need someone, something external. I'm being told needing external objects to base my self esteem off of is false self...yet I need an external object to heal it. Legitimately confused
In DBT therapy, the therapist provides a safe partner to explore the feelings with, in an environment they will not be invalidated in, and to guide them in case it’s too intense. I’m not sure if that helps, but wishing you peaceful healing.
Any suggestion [text, link, article, talk] to find your way out of sadness without a psychotherapist, please?
DMT is the answer.
Really good friends who see your struggles, are patient, and beat you over the head when you need it. Good luck.
@@FromThe3021 How did it help?
@@IamavoyagerIt didn't. I've done a bunch of psychodelics, and imo unless you have an undergrad in philosophy, you probably aren't going to be doing enough self work for it to be fruitful.
Philosophy. That's what helped me. A lot of Carl Jung, he talks about certain archetypes, certain pathological types of behaviours. I'll always remember the story of the 25 year old women, who just wouldn't budge. She was completely subsumed by her schemas, delusional thinking and was dead set on killing herself. She did. Something about Jung's account of it, his recount was of more defeated sadness than anything else. I genuinely felt like I was failing myself, my best friend who died, my parents, the self that deserves to be out there, vulnerable and acknowledged.
I learned about philosophy. And started to do my autobiography, so I can remember the past and properly figure out what's happening.
If there's an event that triggers you as you relive it, that's where you start. And keep doing that till you can't no more. Get passed all the delusional thinking. Coping mechanisms. Schemas and projection outwards.
If you hit a wall, that's where I sort of got stuck...
I came to find out a couple months later after having a fallout with a friend, that I probably have BPD or PTSD. So I'm good to go again. Baby steps. Small walls forward. It's taken 8 months, but I'm on the right track for once.
What did I do for this?
What if you can’t seem to experience any emotion at all?
Then you don’t have BPD! Our diagnosis is centered around severe depression (suicidal ideation) and extreme anger due to splitting, coupled with anxiety (fear of abandonment). We are a giant ball of emotions. The fewer your range of emotions- that means you’re emotionally unavailable (childhood trauma)
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Why can they not get out?
I have experience and my answer is: the sadness leads to a despair which is so overwhelming and endless, it is like an unbearable physical pain that one feels can only be ended by killing oneself. Why does this happen? Most likely because my mother had major depression for decades, so her sadness essentially WAS endless and she never modelled appropriate self-soothing or emotionally regulating behaviours. There are many theories about early childhood development you could delve into, some even with credible research. Or maybe brain chemistry idk *shrugs*
In Myself (borderline)sadness can become despair or a black hole of emptiness very easily.
There's no empathy without sadness.
This is not accurate. Narcissists get depressed often and they don’t have empathy. Empathy is regard for OTHER people’s feelings. So if you see a narc cry- it’s because the tears are for their self.
@@kateashby3066 Depressed is not the same thing as sadness. Yes, there are also different reasons which people might cry... Also, there are different kinds of depression. There's existential depression and then there's chronic depression. Both narcissists (of a certain type) and victims of narcissists (if seriously hurt/impacted) experience the latter kind (which has less to do with conscious being in a fucked up reality and more to do with being, or having been, seriously fucked). Sorry if a bit crude but that's the most concise way of putting it.
Also, grief for some part of oneself that might've been lost (yet alone the whole) is a valid reason to cry.
Isn’t that. A cult
Say what?! 😂