I love the confidence Marsha has in the patient's ability to come up with answers for herself. Also reminds her of what they have already talked about. Marsha identifies the core of the problem being ruminating.
I had a DBT therapist coerce me into "ECT consultation" because the therapist didn't know what she was doing, wasn't in consultation (She yelled at me, "I wouldn't need consultation if it wasn't for you!"). She ended therapy with no warning because her life was out of control (she told me her colleagues filed a complaint against her because they were racist and her daughter was having trouble at school because the teachers and other students were racist and her husband was cold and distant and she felt all alone).
The annoying thing about bpd is their tends to fault everybody but themselves especially their closest ones, and playing victim in every drama their made.
8:50 the client brings up a good point. She talks to the patient later, instead of addressing the initiate suicidality? Sounds damaging and potentially life threatening. Also she admitted to going into this with a passive aggressive, and covertly hostile attitude.
@@cherrynado are you a therapist, or do you have some bad experiences with someone with BPD? Are you BPD yourself? Why are you generalizing? Lots of people with BPD get really suicidal and do attempt. Some succeed. Even if they are doing it for attention, my guess is the attention is to get help. At any rate, I’m sure it's not always for attention.
My perception is that she is in fact addressing the suicidality. In this case, the suicidality is not caused by a major depressive episode, but rather it seems to be a consequence of rumination around ideas of worthlessness, helplessness and paranoia. So if the rumination is prevented or halted, the suicidality/self-harming behavior will likely not surface.
Dude. This disorder is about maladaptive responses to stressors. Those responses create further stress, and then the person responds again with a maladaptive response and the cycle continues. DBT aims to break this cycle.
Or is it a major part of a Personality Disorder to always take on the victim stance when they are not always the victim?? Maybe you should do research that isn’t on tic tok
Honestly, I don’t see victim blaming, all I seen in the video is Marsha refocusing the client on what she has control over. You can ONLY change what YOU can control. If you have a therapist that lets you focus on everything you can’t control (other peoples behaviors) than you have a bad therapist because nothing in your life will ever change.
I don't see where she is blaming here - for me it looks like Linehan is trying to empower that Lady. Assisting in shifting her attention to gain awareness of everything that led to the incident and trying to make her realize all the other options she has. Such a gift! That Lady unfortunately is refusing to take her advice - and then blames Marsha for not helping her. She makes a victim out of herself(at least during the excerpt), which is sad because she could take responsibility for herself and live a life worth living and be proud of herself when she handles hardship. I would ask why one would ever choose to be a victim but I know from experience how much work it takes to come out of that.
@@matthewcook9531 Yeah but it's shit. I've went to DBT for a year and it's a load of money-making quack! It may help people with mild anxiety but other than that, it's a joke.
@@BloodAndGutsTV it really depends on whether YOU as a patient are willing to change and learn and put what you are learning into everyday practice. Some people end up repeating DBT a second or third time and I assume it’s really up to the patient whether they are ready for change or not. It’s totally okay if you aren’t open and ready for it but I hope you are someday
@@BloodAndGutsTVif they were treating anxiety with DBT then maybe they were a quack. It usually is the tool for BPD; CBT or maybe solution focused approach is something for more appropriate for anxiety
I LOVE to see how Marsha assumes competence in her client, that she can come up with a better solutions and strategies 👏
I love the confidence Marsha has in the patient's ability to come up with answers for herself. Also reminds her of what they have already talked about. Marsha identifies the core of the problem being ruminating.
this actress nailed this performance! Learned so much!
Actress?
She really did!
Thank you so much for uploading these
Fantastic acting job. I feel as if I know this person.
I had a DBT therapist coerce me into "ECT consultation" because the therapist didn't know what she was doing, wasn't in consultation (She yelled at me, "I wouldn't need consultation if it wasn't for you!"). She ended therapy with no warning because her life was out of control (she told me her colleagues filed a complaint against her because they were racist and her daughter was having trouble at school because the teachers and other students were racist and her husband was cold and distant and she felt all alone).
The annoying thing about bpd is their tends to fault everybody but themselves especially their closest ones, and playing victim in every drama their made.
Wish we could see the rest of what was cut off + the Q+A that followed 😕
Does she address akathisia caused by psych polypharmacy which causes people to be suicidal?
8:50 the client brings up a good point. She talks to the patient later, instead of addressing the initiate suicidality? Sounds damaging and potentially life threatening. Also she admitted to going into this with a passive aggressive, and covertly hostile attitude.
@@cherrynado are you a therapist, or do you have some bad experiences with someone with BPD? Are you BPD yourself? Why are you generalizing? Lots of people with BPD get really suicidal and do attempt. Some succeed. Even if they are doing it for attention, my guess is the attention is to get help. At any rate, I’m sure it's not always for attention.
My perception is that she is in fact addressing the suicidality. In this case, the suicidality is not caused by a major depressive episode, but rather it seems to be a consequence of rumination around ideas of worthlessness, helplessness and paranoia. So if the rumination is prevented or halted, the suicidality/self-harming behavior will likely not surface.
oh boy, where´s the rest of this? I mean, just when things were going to her more important feedback about the self-harm behavior, come on, now.
The absence of self responsibility is the first issue I see.
Dude. This disorder is about maladaptive responses to stressors. Those responses create further stress, and then the person responds again with a maladaptive response and the cycle continues. DBT aims to break this cycle.
Yes the incapacity of holding own responsability is an issue for borderline human beings😢
Why’s her full name? For both people
is this staged?
Yes
I don't like the doctor 😕
She's too aggressive with it like calm down bro she cut herself open
Marsha's basically victim blaming.
Or is it a major part of a Personality Disorder to always take on the victim stance when they are not always the victim?? Maybe you should do research that isn’t on tic tok
Honestly, I don’t see victim blaming, all I seen in the video is Marsha refocusing the client on what she has control over. You can ONLY change what YOU can control. If you have a therapist that lets you focus on everything you can’t control (other peoples behaviors) than you have a bad therapist because nothing in your life will ever change.
I don't see where she is blaming here - for me it looks like Linehan is trying to empower that Lady. Assisting in shifting her attention to gain awareness of everything that led to the incident and trying to make her realize all the other options she has. Such a gift! That Lady unfortunately is refusing to take her advice - and then blames Marsha for not helping her. She makes a victim out of herself(at least during the excerpt), which is sad because she could take responsibility for herself and live a life worth living and be proud of herself when she handles hardship. I would ask why one would ever choose to be a victim but I know from experience how much work it takes to come out of that.
@dinahn6955just curious could you explain how that’s not a good sign?
I don't think the doctor knows what she's doing...very harsh and uncaring attitude...it's like she's trying to antagonize the patient.
Marsha Linehan? She literally wrote the book on treatment of borderline personality disorder
@@matthewcook9531 Yeah but it's shit. I've went to DBT for a year and it's a load of money-making quack! It may help people with mild anxiety but other than that, it's a joke.
@@BloodAndGutsTV yes, because it isn't supposed to be used for patients with anxiety, it's originally for bpd folks (no gatekeeping tho)
@@BloodAndGutsTV it really depends on whether YOU as a patient are willing to change and learn and put what you are learning into everyday practice. Some people end up repeating DBT a second or third time and I assume it’s really up to the patient whether they are ready for change or not. It’s totally okay if you aren’t open and ready for it but I hope you are someday
@@BloodAndGutsTVif they were treating anxiety with DBT then maybe they were a quack. It usually is the tool for BPD; CBT or maybe solution focused approach is something for more appropriate for anxiety
The person acting as the client is not very good