Creating The Greatest Fighting Game Guide Ever - Teaching Killer Instinct

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  • čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
  • In our latest feature, we sit down with Infil and talk about his work on "The Complete Killer Instinct Guide" and dive into why many think it's the greatest fighting game guide ever written.
    You can check Infil's guide out here: ki.infil.net/
    Support our work: / holdbacktoblock
    Twitter:
    / thebesteban
    / holdbacktoblock
    Chapters
    0:00 Intro, Origins of KI.Infil.Net
    3:22 Building the guide
    13:21 Pressure and praise
    17:58 Outro/Patreon/Coming Soon
    Video sources: pastebin.com/315TudFA
    #KillerInstinct
    #FightOn
    #BringBackKI
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Komentáře • 98

  • @Holdbacktoblock
    @Holdbacktoblock  Před 3 lety +18

    What are some of your favorite guides/tutorial content out there? Anyone we should be keeping our eyes on for a future video?

    • @saiferoth
      @saiferoth Před 3 lety +1

      The Rindoukan Bible.

    • @swknj3406
      @swknj3406 Před 3 lety +3

      @@saiferoth Infilament has an article on various bugs with the guy who made the rindokan Bible.
      ki.infil.net/words.html
      ki.infil.net/w01-bugs.html

    • @kholdkhaos64ray11
      @kholdkhaos64ray11 Před 3 lety +7

      I like Infil's the most but Dustloop/Mizuumi Wiki is also one of my favorite fighting game resources.

    • @RocketSlug
      @RocketSlug Před 3 lety +5

      Another vote for Mizuumi Wiki (now incorporated under Dustloop it looks like). Core-A Gaming's "Why Button Mashing Doesn't Work" video was also fantastic on giving a general fighting game glossary. I'm personally a sucker for anything that helps with picking a character when jumping into a new fighting game. The Guilty Gear Xrd character quiz (arctice.github.io/XrdQuizRevamp/ ) and the Tekken one (tekken-character-quiz.netlify.app/#/ ) were both fun to play around with. I also love the longer roster overviews by The Blasted Salami for Tekken and Granblue. I know a while back the JChen also did a long tutorial stream for Under-Night with accompanying Google Docs that I also thought was really helpful (czcams.com/play/PL45-KVgrSkf651n9Qui-Zc8H5rJgq4Jpu.html )

    • @Wladislav
      @Wladislav Před 3 lety +1

      Sonic Hurricane was big for me. And Domination 101 of course.

  • @Holdbacktoblock
    @Holdbacktoblock  Před 3 lety +72

    Scrupman

  • @asterhogan1
    @asterhogan1 Před 3 lety +69

    Every fighting game should have an infil guide in the game, there's really no reason after going through the game tutorial you still don't know how to play

    • @Medivh73
      @Medivh73 Před 3 lety +1

      Well tutorial just introduces you to the game mechanics. It work the same in any other genre.

    • @AdamJorgensen
      @AdamJorgensen Před 3 lety +5

      Every FG should have an Infil-style guide made by the developers

    • @eduardoserpa1682
      @eduardoserpa1682 Před 3 lety +1

      The developers don't usually know what the game is going to look like. It's the main reason why franchises like Under Night and BlazBlue got better and better learning resources as new iterations came out.
      BnBs slowly get added into Combo Trials and specific strategy bits also find their way into the game. Not every franchise changes that slowly in over 10 years, though.

    • @jasonlobo2350
      @jasonlobo2350 Před 3 lety +1

      KI training literally teach you everything even things that are in other FG games like crossups, frametraps, etc. Pretty in depth

  • @Adamzychu
    @Adamzychu Před 3 lety +6

    2:45
    "THIS IS WHY IT'S GOOD"
    This is why infil guide was so good, and this is also the thing many guides are lacking, not only in fighters. Telling you what to do, but not really why are you supposed to do it this certain way. Yeah I get that I'm supposed to use THAT move a lot, all the other guides told me, but what makes it move so good in the first place?

  • @MangaMarjan
    @MangaMarjan Před 3 lety +16

    "Why button mashing doesn't work" by Core-A Gaming is the Godfather of fighting game guides.

  • @soyunbonus
    @soyunbonus Před 3 lety +6

    It would be great to have a revamped KI. The gameplay is still super solid, but the visual start showing its age.
    Also props to Infil, his guide is amazing!

  • @dt6432
    @dt6432 Před 3 lety +5

    This is a GOAT game guide
    ...not just among KI guides
    ...not just among fighting guides
    ...but among all video game guides ever.
    Edit: Music next? LET'S FUCKING GO!

  • @HiImKeithTG
    @HiImKeithTG Před 3 lety +14

    Video: More KI coming soon.
    Me: cool
    Video: Behind the music with Mick Gordan
    Me: *Dies from excitement*

  • @Pokephantom
    @Pokephantom Před 3 lety +32

    Ya Infil definitely has the best guide out there no question.

  • @Itsgeestatus
    @Itsgeestatus Před 3 lety +4

    KI Made A Huge Impact On Fighting Games
    (Especially Wit Their GamePlay🎮Mechanics)

  • @eyeln9ne696
    @eyeln9ne696 Před 3 lety +8

    I have major respect for him. I have the same love for guides and creating them. However I've never had a chance to put my full effort into one. He seems like a passionate guy, and I hope he's able to continue his work.

  • @ThePeacemaker10
    @ThePeacemaker10 Před 3 lety +20

    Infil has created something truly amazing and I hope for all games to have a resource such as this one day. Great work.

  • @ShadyHitchhiker
    @ShadyHitchhiker Před 3 lety +7

    Infil guide is best guide easy.
    I've read it "Cover to cover" at least once, and skimmed a bunch since then.

  • @keithmccormack6248
    @keithmccormack6248 Před 2 lety

    The student teaches himself, the teacher removes the obstacles keeping the student from understanding the subject. Keep up the good work Infil!

  • @N1ghtslash_
    @N1ghtslash_ Před 3 lety +4

    Every night and day I pray to Lord Infil for this guide 🙏

  • @claudiomonteverdi847
    @claudiomonteverdi847 Před 3 lety +20

    Esteban, i love you but add a link to the infil guide in the description, please. Is easy to find but it would still be the fastest way to check it out instantly

  • @crowmki9688
    @crowmki9688 Před 3 lety +5

    Yeah this guide is amazing. One of the best I’ve ever seen for a fighting game, for sure. Insanely well done. I love this game and love recommending it to people, but I always bring up this guide as a resource because its fantastic and deserves all the praise in the world.

  • @noboty4168
    @noboty4168 Před 3 lety +2

    This and CoreA Gaming's guide have taught me more about how to play than all the tutorials I have ever been through beforehand. Since seeing them, I find CoinJamTV (Now Heavy Punch) and rooflemonger, KnowKami, and AutoMattock to be pretty close to them. CoinJamTV for the extreme entertainment value. Infil knew the importance of making the guide engaging, and CoinJamTV turns that up to 11. I find myself coming back to his videos and I don't even play the games featured in it anymore. Rooflemonger, meanwhile, has a similar background to Infil, also being a teacher and also enjoying helping others. His dragonball guides were invaluable for teaching me how to play. Knowkami is not a teacher like them, but has the heart of one, also taking his time to break things down and is passionate about helping people learn. Same with AutoMattock.
    Special mention, I feel, should go out to Sajam, The Blasted Salami, and Bafael for their few-minute guides that I find very helpful for getting a running start with learning a character.

  • @Neco-Ico
    @Neco-Ico Před 3 lety +10

    "Scrupman" I see what you did there

  • @gene_eggman
    @gene_eggman Před 3 lety +3

    Just picked up the game. So lucky I found this early on 💡💡💡

  • @mattb9664
    @mattb9664 Před 3 lety +4

    I'd like to learn how to finally play KI- I was playing against the computer a few weeks ago, thinking I was pulling off these awesome multi hit combos, then I realized I had combo-assist turned on. 🤦‍♂️

    • @ShadyHitchhiker
      @ShadyHitchhiker Před 3 lety +1

      No harm using the combo assist at all. It's a great feature

  • @numa2k147
    @numa2k147 Před 3 lety +3

    I have so mich respect for Infil, he helped me out so much in KI. Even though I'm still a scrupman

  • @SaruNinja
    @SaruNinja Před 3 lety +4

    damn, what a wholesome dude :,)
    really cool seeing how effective interdisciplinary experience/perspective can be!

  • @Super121830
    @Super121830 Před 2 lety +2

    Infil's KI guide is one of the best game guides out there. I can't play KI because my PC is pretty old, so with this guide as source material I did a homemade KI board game which I play with friends whenever we can meet, we all are pretty big KI fans and I'm glad they enjoy such a different take on KI, all thanks to this in-depth guide. I'll always be grateful to Infil for taking his time to do it.

  • @Wr1terTyp3
    @Wr1terTyp3 Před 3 lety +2

    It's an excellent example of instructional design.

  • @okanut
    @okanut Před 3 lety +7

    Infil's guide helped me so much! Thanks for making this interview!

  • @justApplay
    @justApplay Před 3 lety +2

    That Shadow linker break trainer is sick. Didn't notice it the time I read the website to learn the game. Pretty neat.

  • @GDPanda69
    @GDPanda69 Před 3 lety +6

    these are always so well done, great work!

  • @ezrawalker
    @ezrawalker Před 3 lety +1

    Don't play KI, but I love this insight into the process of making the guide. Very cool to hear how intentional he was in terms of choosing the format.

  • @SRC267
    @SRC267 Před 3 lety +9

    Bruh dis sick yo

  • @vaibhavkoneru878
    @vaibhavkoneru878 Před 3 lety +1

    im glad ur back

  • @CaptainFram
    @CaptainFram Před 3 lety +1

    this is awesome stuff!

  • @Guito93
    @Guito93 Před 3 lety +1

    Jesus, when I first read the KI guide, i couldnt believe you could kinda play the game in tge website! The breaking leassons are SO GOOD! Great video man =D

  • @AnonyMorshu
    @AnonyMorshu Před 3 lety +1

    18:01: Hype is real. Hoping to hear some insight into what went into Fulgore's sound design.

  • @stephengonzales9313
    @stephengonzales9313 Před 3 lety +1

    Damn this guide is amazing

  • @iloveTSA
    @iloveTSA Před 3 lety +1

    This dude is awesome!

  • @shaideyfresh1
    @shaideyfresh1 Před 3 lety

    Great vid!

  •  Před 3 lety +1

    Just earned yourself a new sub :)

  • @navco90
    @navco90 Před 3 lety +2

    Bring back KI already 😭

  • @ggrinky11
    @ggrinky11 Před 3 lety +2

    #playKI #makeKIStronger

  • @Brian_F
    @Brian_F Před 3 lety +8

    First

  • @vaderwalks
    @vaderwalks Před 3 lety +1

    And then he went on to make a comprehensive dictionary for fighting games in general. The FGC definitely doesn't deserve Infil.

  • @benjaminbernal4729
    @benjaminbernal4729 Před 3 lety

    best guide ever

  • @erikgarza9239
    @erikgarza9239 Před 3 lety

    Best KI resource

  • @ripamoramee14
    @ripamoramee14 Před 3 lety

    YO LET'S FUCKIN GO!
    BACK TO RISE!

  • @Oekten36
    @Oekten36 Před 3 lety

    I love your guide. Would love to See it as a book. If you Do so please publish it also in germany :)

  • @synkadus
    @synkadus Před 3 lety

    inspiring

  • @Blackwindzero
    @Blackwindzero Před 3 lety +1

    dewd needs a patreon

  • @JD-cg3dh
    @JD-cg3dh Před 3 lety

    #BringBackKI

  • @kpitalone7361
    @kpitalone7361 Před 3 lety +3

    Excellent video, by the way does anyone know what happened to KI sequel for Series X?
    #BringBackKI

    • @ggrinky11
      @ggrinky11 Před 3 lety +1

      you can play KI on series X. Also I would encourage the hashtag #playKI. KI never left the community is going strong and we have a surge of new players.

  • @henrih137
    @henrih137 Před 3 lety

    #BringbackKI

  • @St_Heresy
    @St_Heresy Před 3 lety

    More KI. All the KI

  • @JuKe6
    @JuKe6 Před 3 lety +3

    The hero us filth casuals need!

  • @ivansotelo4622
    @ivansotelo4622 Před 3 lety

    Excuse me guys, do you have someone doing spanish subs for your videos? i really love this channel's quality, and i would love to help widening the range of viewership

  • @evilweevle
    @evilweevle Před 3 lety

    A wild Ricky appears!!!

  • @fighterzam6573
    @fighterzam6573 Před 3 měsíci

    is the game up to date? with the recent balance patches?

  • @ShaunInce123
    @ShaunInce123 Před 3 lety +1

    It ain't easy, being a Scrupman.

  • @EPSTomcat11
    @EPSTomcat11 Před 3 lety +1

    What is “rushdown” and “zoning”? I didn’t find an explanation of these concepts in the guide.

    • @naejimba
      @naejimba Před 2 lety

      Rushdown is a character that is fast and focuses on offensive pressure to overwhelm the opponent. They often have confusing setups (which causes the opponent to make a mistake) and has the tools to capitalize on those mistakes. Zoning is a character that does better fighting at range and has tools that prevent the opponent from getting close (where zoners are VERY weak).
      In general, a rushdown character does well against a zoner, because they have good mobility and can easily close the distance on the zoner to attack them where they are weakest. Zoners tend to do well against grappler characters (slow characters that want to get up close to do huge damage through command grabs) since the grappler has such a hard time getting to them. Grappers tend to do good against a rush down character since they usually have more health and since the rushdown character needs to get close to an opponent to do damage they put themselves in risk of a command grab that will do massive damage. Hope this helps.

    • @EPSTomcat11
      @EPSTomcat11 Před 2 lety

      @@naejimba - Do you play Shadow Fight Arena by any chance? You just described Hong Joo (zoner), and Ironclad (Rushdown).

    • @naejimba
      @naejimba Před 2 lety

      @@EPSTomcat11 , no but these are archetypes that you can find in just about any fighting game. =)

    • @EPSTomcat11
      @EPSTomcat11 Před 2 lety

      @@naejimba I’m sure, yes. You should give SFA a shot btw. The only mobile (wireless) true human PvP fighting game out there at the moment.

  • @JPVersus_
    @JPVersus_ Před 3 lety

    Guys, where did Scrupman come from?

    • @paleposter
      @paleposter Před 3 lety +3

      the tekken player Knee fired back at another Tekken player TheMainMan for something he said. He probably meant to say "Scrubman" in reference to his name and being a scrub lool

  • @vaibhavkoneru878
    @vaibhavkoneru878 Před 3 lety +1

    my computer is so doodoo i cant play ranked ki

  • @ZeludeRose
    @ZeludeRose Před 3 lety

    he's not will smith??

  • @isolex_
    @isolex_ Před 3 lety

    Ki wins again

  • @vaibhavkoneru878
    @vaibhavkoneru878 Před 3 lety +5

    scrupman

  • @finallyanime
    @finallyanime Před 3 lety

    ....dude lol real fg players don’t mind long content I wish people would stop being so adverse to making normal content. Just make sure it’s to the point...sick site though. I’m definitelyy gonna take some notes

  • @SkylarEmelio91
    @SkylarEmelio91 Před 3 lety +1

    Leave that Scrupman stuff at home and continue to push the content we love you for pushing rather than stirring the pot

    • @Holdbacktoblock
      @Holdbacktoblock  Před 3 lety +12

      No

    • @SkylarEmelio91
      @SkylarEmelio91 Před 3 lety

      @@Holdbacktoblock Childish.

    • @tanyaharmon6739
      @tanyaharmon6739 Před 3 lety +4

      Sounds like a scrupman argument to me

    • @hunterdavis9941
      @hunterdavis9941 Před 3 lety

      @@Holdbacktoblock I would say leave it out just because it dates the video, give it 5 months to a year and more then likely no one will know why you said it like that just think it's weird.

    • @peerlessneedle4272
      @peerlessneedle4272 Před 3 lety +2

      TMM is now Scrupman for life