Thank you for capturing the history of Killer Instinct music through this excellent documentary. It was literally a dream come true to be a part of a project this big!
omega i freaking love you for that rap man i love back to rise so much i felt the big energy im a BIG TJ main and love his music his char and everything man thank you for all the beautiful you have done to this beautiful game
Dude. Watching this documentary gave me even MORE appreciation for the KILLERRRRRRRRR vocals on I'm Back (to Rise!), Killer Instinct is my favourite video game of all time. I listened to Killer Cuts taped to a cassette on a boom box while I would fight my bodyboard on the trampoline pretending to be Jago so as soon as KI 2013 was announced, my instant thought was "I can't wait to see who does the music and what direction they take it in" and to see the entire soundtrack given nothing but love and respect, to see the detail that went into the tracks one by one, this has been amazing. Thank you for playing your part with Combo's theme, it's one of my favourites from the reboot! Also crazy to hear Mick's first CD was Killer Cuts and then the Mortal Kombat Soundtrack, that speaks volumes to his video game music sharing influences from sounds like Fear Factory and Orbital.
I had no idea that Ali Edwards, the now legendary singer in DMC 5 for Devil Trigger and her husband were directly involved with Mick Gordon on Killer Instinct. It's crazy how connected the best music in the industry is.
That's what I thought, playing some bits, I think to myself they sound good and he goes 'these are terrible'. Welp sorry even your crap sounds awesome, good sir!
No see, when you're an experienced musician, terrible usually just means it sounded generic or uninteresting to them. At this level of skill and experience, artists rarely make genuinely bad sounding music.
"This werewolf is ripping the orchestra apart." Holy hell that is the perfect description of that theme. No wonder it's my favorite--Mick had such a clear vision of how it should sound.
My favorite track? Hands down, it's Herald of Gargos. It's got one of my best friends doing the vocals. Here's the full story, I was taking my morning poop, reading through Twitter when I saw Mick's tweet. I thought of two people, Chris and the vocalist for my band. Told Chris first, pushed him to do it because he loved the game so much. He had ZERO confidence that he'd get the gig. I'm glad he got it, what Mick said about him looking like he's never said a cuss word in his life isn't exactly true, but Chris is genuinely one of the most caring and nicest dudes that walks this planet. .
Herald of Gargos just slaps harder than most stuff I've listened too. I listen to the song on spotify, so there's a 1min break of silence before an acoustic bit.
TJ combo trailer was an absolute "alignment of the stars" miracle, a one in a lifetime event. Max comments on his videos they were working on his moves days before his trailer came out and he barely had weeks of work and they got something kind of functional to show. And the knowing now his music was a last minute crunch makes it even more epic
This is such a rad doc. Thanks so much for pouring your passion into this! I'll be watching this every 5-10 years of my life looking back on what an incredible time we all had. \m/ \m/
It's actually incredibly mind-blowing how much work was put into every aspect of this game. Even years on, it is still being talked about and I'm discovering more about what passion was poured into it. As KI is one of my favourite games of all time, I'm proud.
Yea agreed. Not gone lie when I first heard about it my expectations were kind of low but I was at least convinced I'd play it anyway no matter what, just because it was happening. When the game launched I was immediately blown away. That was definitely the most innovative fighting game of last gen.
Reminder: People tried to paint Mick Gordon as some sort of two faced asswipe based on a couple tweets removed of context and nuance during the release of Doom Eternal. A lot of vitriol was slung his way for simply saying "I wouldn't have mixed it that way" and "I probably won't be working with Id again" and all of it came from people injecting those statements with drama and angst when really he was just saying he mixed things differently and wanted to work on other stuff. That didn't stop everyone from attacking Id until they got an official statement that basically vindicated Mick of any drama, and yet SOMEHOW despite the response literally stating there was no internal drama going on and that Mick and Id had agreed on a Plan B were he not able to release tracks on schedule, the community STILL went for his throat like he'd thrown the Id team under the bus (which, reminder, the Doom community did, not Mick). And being a Killer Instinct fan this shit is so fucking frustrating to watch because you can immediately tell who only knew about Mick because of Doom. All the things they accused him of were so out of character. Even during development, he was commenting on how certain tracks like Riptor's came out a little stale because he'd allocated more time to Aganos and wished he could give them a do-over. The man is pretty humble and the first five minutes of this video reminded me of that given he goes RIGHT INTO his mistakes before anything else. Post recent events edit: I was wrong to defend Id in the slightest. Marty did literally everything wrong and Mick wasn't just innocent in this situation, he was the victim.
As much as I love Mick and his work, this is absolutely not the case. What actually ended up really burning Mick was how he effectively through Chad under the bus and then went completely radio silent while fans started making assumptions and dogpiling him instead of simply coming out and setting the record straight. Mick definitely does shoulder a lot of the blame for how that went down due to dropping what were essentially bombshells in random reply tweets and then going MIA while the internet freaked out instead of clearing the air.
wtf are you on? it's so weird seeing sensible comments on the internet. get outta here and come back if you just wanna axe some people just for the satisfaction of it. you really don't get the spirit of this whole thing...
@@CribbsTV This assumes he's at all responsible for assumptions people make or drama they create. Mick didn't fabricate anything. In what were originally private messages to fans, all he said was "I wouldn't have made it that way" which is literally him voicing a creative difference and only an asshole would assume the worst about that statement, and then "I probably won't be working with Id again", which is just stupid to assume means he has an issue with Id. Since Killer Instinct he's done 5 games for Bethesda; Prey, two Wolfenstein titles, and two Doom games. He wanted to do something else and he's not obligated to them, plus he'd already been doing stuff with Bring Me the Horizon and Atomic Heart and vocal about wanting to do something akin to Killer Instinct again. It was literally the fans who went ballistic and attacked people AND THEN took no accountability for it. It was genuinely one of the most embarrassing things the community has done. But please, tell me why a grown man is obligated to herd a bunch of internet randos who were screenshotting his conversations and theory crafting on their own time. Mick and Id did nothing wrong, this was entirely fan crafted outrage.
yea this so much. i don't believe Id software for a second either. everyone just took martys word as gospel and used it as permission to abuse and blame mick. that was over a year ago. the doom eternal ost still isn't on spotify and mick still hasn't responded. it's fishy AF.
@@ddublu I'm not sure if that was directed at me or Cribbs, but I've loved Mick's work for the last decade and watching people go nuts over something that literally didn't happen and attack both a man and a company I loved over it was a stupidly frustrating experience, and the community was never held accountable for it. Killer Instinct (the reboot) is now old enough to warrant nostalgia and for years I've been directing newer fans of Mick Gordon's work to this game because most people think he's just "Metal Man" because of the Doom titles. I used to blast Warlord and Polemos back in my Junior year in Highschool to expose people to this music most people would never even hear because it came from a fighting game. I still blast I'm Back because it oozes the lost soul of Rap Hip Hop and more people should be taking notes from it. I don't want to hear anything about "spirit", my argument is literally about people lacking spirit in favor of vitriol.
microsoft: "YoU cAn´T jUsT uSe a HuMaN lEg BoNe FoR mUsIc!" mick gordon´s new objective: .... you can also hear it in doom eternal´s soundtrack The Betrayer
This is exactly the kind of detail i want to hear from any "big production" music producer. I'd like to see something like this from producers like Swizz Beats or Dr. Dre and of course other game music Producers like Michiru Yamane, Inon Zur, Hans Zimmer, Nobuo Uematsu, Koji Kondo etc
46:39 this is beautiful. It's like a microcosm of TJ Combo's story - looking at his own cybernetics and deciding It's not working, it's not worth it. He's running out of time, he's past his prime, but he needs to make a difficult decision. And so he "throws it all out and tries again", he rips out his cybernetics to get one more authentic attempt. That crazy gamble worked for him, and it worked for Mick and Omega too
When I heard the flute by itself in Thunder’s theme, I instantly got chills, and tears in my eyes. What did you do to me, Mick?! Lol Edit: I was listening to the Temperance & Vengeance portion and look up to see my 6 year old daughter dancing lol. So awesome!
Me too. I also loved seeing the actual singer behind that track. Thunders theme is my absolute favorite and when I heard that extra bit with the full release I fell in love with it all over again. Thats also adorable xD
Mick is from a Aussie town named Mackay. I live in a town several kilometres away, but still fairly close in the grand scheme of things. I always feel some North Queensland pride whenever his music comes up in conversation about amazing video game soundtracks.
@@Herobrinegrn1 Nah, Mackay is a LONG distance away from where I live. And I suspect he moved either to a big city elsewhere in Australia or to the US (or both) even before the last time I was there back in the 2000's.
When Mick Gordon said the reason for 2 versions of Maya's theme was because he lost the original session (56:56), I felt that! Top 10 Producer Heartbreaks
Thanks for watching. What's your favorite song from the Killer Instinct soundtracks? If you want more KI audio goodness check out "Killer Sounds", our doc on the audio production of the entire Killer Instinct series: czcams.com/video/77hYy4hlzuM/video.html
Its Polemos for me. I love it because it sounds like an epic or a grand story with many different parts and each one of them is done perfectly leading up to the insane final "climax" or "drop" of the track.
As a fan of Robin Beanland's work, I was affraid how will it be continued in KI sequel. I am fan of Mick Gordon ever since. I can imagine Celldweller's horror to continue after Mick. Did good job too. Btw for me Mick Gordon with Sonic Mayhem playing Descent into Cerberon... the ultimate epicness.
- 2:59 Robin Beanland got it right - 6:11 guitar harmonics - 10:32 the flute - 13:17 PAX crowd chant - 21:32 swedish chant - 24:44 kangling - 33:38 I don't know if you can use this - 43:14 EVO rap - 44:02 hitting emotionally and lyrically - 52:5154:09 rap lyrics - 1:05:29 mortal kombat - 1:11:56 you wanna do cinder's theme? - 1:26:50 468 voices? - 1:29:11 walking rock - 1:36:03 seriously happy - 1:43:52 you have access to a recording studio?
I said to myself while watching the last doc "Man, I could just listen to a full doc of Mick describing how he made every song" you've made my dream come true
I love Dooms OST, but oh gosh, Killer Instinct just sounds incredible. Also Mick wasn't treated too well for Doom, so it may have hampered him alot. But he did still pull off a masterpeice.
This has been a fascinating watch. Genuinely this soundtrack contains some of my favorite pieces of music I’ve ever listened to. So getting this inside knowledge is incredible to me. Thank you for putting this all together!
Village of Whispers is my favorite. The composition is very complex and it's very nuanced. Combining multiple genres is not easy, I know this from experience. And for something done so well, especially when two styles don't typically mesh well - and it's done right. That's genius.
Killer Instinct (2013) was initially released when I was about a month into taking guitar lessons. Mick Gordon's OST for it was the work I first came to know from him, and so it came as a pleasant surprise that he was gonna do the music for the 2016 Doom game (which, by the way, I'm sure we all had an inkling that parts of "Inferno" got put into "BFG Division"). I think Seasons 1 and 2 stand out as some of my favorite stuff I heard from Mick, because it was such a large collaborative effort with numerous cultures, other artists, even people from the fighting game community and the Microsoft and Iron Galaxy employees who contributed to "Polemos." I owe it to tracks such as "Hinnamatoom," "Inferno," and "Type-03" that I got into metal music. The mixing of influences from other genres and cultures was really cool to me, even before I got into bands that do the same thing, like Faith No More, Twelve Foot Ninja, Skindred, and others. I once commented on a video featuring Fulgore's theme with an inquiry on how the guitars were played so fast, to which someone answered, "Mick Gordon's best friend is his guitar," or something to the effect. I'm really glad you reached out to all these people to get their views and stories on how composing KI (2013)'s outstanding tunes went. I can do nothing else but appreciate them a hell of a lot more. I think I'll have to listen back on "Touch Me and I'll Break Your Face" to find all those sayings of "bitch."
Brooo shit was sick! I played the games forever waiting for a Sequel , then it came so I got xbone day 1 for KI. It was such a blessing being able to play since day 1. And see it grow from season 1, to season 2 the. Season 3. So many updates so much fun!!!
Mick seems like such a good dude, it breaks my heart that we may never get his fully released cut of the Doom Eternal soundtrack. That was by far my favorite soundtrack of his and its just stuck in legal limbo.....
Killer Instinct is still Mick's magnum opus! It has yet to be beaten by Mick or anyone else. Casey's work on DMC5 gets close though. But everyone, who was even a little involved with the soundtrack deserves all the credit and appreciation. Without them we wouldn't have KI's soundtrack as we have it today. I personally see the calm, kinda sad sounding part in Herald of Gargos as Jago fighting for crontrol.
This is absoluitely amazing, Killer instinct is hands down my favourite video game OSTs just because of the diversity of styles. It's great to see how all these tracks came about, and I'm so glad i went to that PAX panel where Mick recorded the crowd. At the time we were all confused with what was happening but then a few months later, hearing the chanting in-game was one of the coolest things ever, as a gamer and a KI fan.
So awesome to see our boy Chris featured in this documentary and having him be a part of KI history! He’s still tearing it up on vocals i our band! Go check it out and stay Metal!
Ah I love these! Seeing Gordon and the crew talk about this is VERY inspiring! Once again Thank you Mick Gordon and everyone involved on making this classic! Also Warlord is one of my favorites!
The fact that the pause / after fight menu plays the notes of the instinct when you go through the options is just the coolest thing ever. I felt like the next gen of Xbox started the moment I heard it.
This game was a passion project disguised as a triple A title. Everything felt deliberate and it also felt like there was little to no interference from the higher ups. This game was always gonna be a gamble, nothing was ever guaranteed, but god damn did everything pay off. The fact this game is a decade old and still feels new is a testament to how much love and care went into it
Fantastic video and a great accompaniment to Killer Sounds. As a big fan of KI and Mike's work elsewhere (not just DEWM) this was just a great interview to listen along to. Wishing you and yours all the best. 🤘
Everyone talks about the Doom 2016 and Eternal OSTs when talking about Mick Gordon, and those ARE amazing soundtracks, but so many of those people overlook the Killer Instinct soundtrack which in my opinion really put Mick on the map. Such a killer set of tunes that I still come back to every so often to jam out with.
Absolutely adore this soundtrack. Hilariously, I DO say that Herald of Gargos is my personal favorite, and a huge, huge part of it is those final sections of the song. The "reworking" of Jago's theme into its corrupted, unleashed state is fantastic throughout, but from the section that's more calm at the end right up until the walls come crashing down and song just goes full throttle till the end of the "Killer Instinct" combo section... that part gives me chills every time. It really sounds like someone having one final look at their life, before just letting loose and having fun at the end of the world. No more tomorrow, no more constraints. It's the perfect embodiment of someone embracing the apocalypse as a final opportunity, and I could not love it more.
Having the crowd at Pax record a segment of the audio is awesome. I had a similar situation albeit much later in the games life but, when Shadow Lords came out, I found some ways to break it horrendously with some of the buffs, consumables and guardians you could use. So much so that after sharing some clips James Goddard reached out to me and I got to personally chat with him on Skype for a couple hours. Killer Instinct being one of my absolute favorite games of all time since childhood, best gaming moment of my life. After our chat quite a few changes came to Shadow Lords and he also gave me a couple of codes to games he developed as we both had a liking for shmups. It's something I won't ever forget. Just wish I had a picture or something to put with my collection that I got to influence my favorite game.
Seriously, mick should strongly consider releasing the music in its bits and pieces. Celldweller style to see what the community can come up with as far as remixes go. Also long live the Tribe baby!
These documentaries have been awesome! I’ve been playing KI since season 3 & it still never gets old. Mayas theme is my all time favorite track in this game but it’s hard to not love em all. So cool being able to see what could have been & the process behind it all!
Man, Mick is a f-cking legend at this point. His soundtrack for Killer Instinct and Doom games are freaking iconic! And truth be told, I'm listening to his soundtrack almost every single day and it almost makes me cry of how incredible it is!
Whatever happened, ID was honestly crazy to let this man go. The commitment and amount of work he puts into the music he creates is insane. I hope they can reconcile in the future and make New Doom 3 together.
@@SalvationCode Yeah for sure. Lots of passion but more surely than not he missed some deadlines as well xD and well... That's bad. When he delivers he Delivers for sure.
@@SalvationCode Working in the industry though, he knows he has to meet deadlines. So there's only so much bullshit they can put up with. I love Mick and his music but you gotta get shit done too.
Its funny hearing Mick talking about aspects that made those tracks specific to a character cuz I remember when I first got the killercuts album I was listening to it and every track didn't had a character name assigned but you knew by the sound and arrangament to what character that track belongs. Its awesome to see and hear how he went into that process to bring it back to life with a new and more modern sound at the same time praising Robin Beanland`s work. Thats a true music composer there. My respects to Mick Gordon👏🏾
This is so awesome. Especially all of the takes that didn't work or make it into the final product. Gives a lot of context into how much testing and experimenting goes into stuff like this. And I would drop my frying pan too if mick tweeted at me asking to help with a game 😆
The amount of detail of love out into all of the music by Mick is incredible. It really shows the passion and drive he has to create something special. All of that hard work put in by him and everyone else involved easily shows in the quality of the finished soundtrack.
Mick gordon is one of the best at making a great soundtrack..seriously he is one of the best if you want a good soundtrack give him his freedom and help em out. The music he makes is so special to me :D hes a good dude as well
This is so fucking cool not just in the context of making music but in making art in general. I'm an animator and so much of what he talks about regarding the process is identical (talking about Mick).
@Hold Back to Block I can't thank you enough for this! I had massive goosebumps several times watching this documentary lol Mick is SO passionate about those themes, I could listen to him talk about them for many many hours! It's so much work and so much effort, glued with very very talented people, and it delivers because everyone loves KI music! Thanks again Mick, you're a legend, man!
Ever since the reveal for Killer Instinct 2013 I was in love. And when I heard the music I felt they had nailed it. One of the first games I got with my Xbox One at lunch. For whatever reason all this time I never actually looked to see who composed the music. I had no idea Mick Gordon was a part of it. But everything falls into place now. When you get that guy on board especially for some good guitar, metal, rock music you can't go wrong. He really nailed the theme song perfectly. He gets it. And the rest of the album is excellent as well. Great video and thanks for sharing. Thanks for sharing. Very cool to see this kind of behind the scenes stuff.
Excellent Documentary, Mick is an amazing artist and for me personally as a Killer Instinct OG I could not think of anyone better to do the soundtrack, to the extent I think season 3 lacked without his input. I hope Mick returns for future KI sequels
My favorite soundtrack will always be TJ Combo I’m back to rise,it just to crazy and hype. Im glad there’s a look at all of killer instinct soundtracks.All of them sounded to unique and thrilling to be forgotten.Glad the killer instinct has a future.
@@cosmozapallo4530 I have a feeling it was Mick being an artist first and meeting deadlines later. Everything I've heard is that it really was more his fault than anyone elses.
This documantry is amazing, seeing behind the scenes, witnessing the secrets of the best themes of any fighting charactors ever is a Killer (Get it, no i'll stop.) Hoping they'll make another documantry on season 3's soundtracks’. Kim Wu Tusk Arbiter Rash Mira Gargos General Raam Eyedol
I was hoping Mick would talk about Herald of Gargos, as that was my favorite track after listening to the OST version. Hits harder than the in-game version, has IMO the better updated version of Gargos' theme than the actual Gargos theme itself in season 3, and all those additions (especially that 'sad' part) set the song even further apart from Jago's theme. And the fact it was done in a very short amount of time, in crunch no less, really impressed me all the more. Sad that Mick had to leave after finishing season 2, but he left KI with a bang. Thank you for all this.
I was part of that PAX choir for Thunder's theme!
So technically, I'm part of the KI soundtrack.
Lucky!! 😪
***Napoleon Dynamite's voice***
Thank you for capturing the history of Killer Instinct music through this excellent documentary. It was literally a dream come true to be a part of a project this big!
No, thank YOU!
The man! Thanks for your awesome work, Omega!
omega i freaking love you for that rap man i love back to rise so much i felt the big energy im a BIG TJ main and love his music his char and everything man thank you for all the beautiful you have done to this beautiful game
Dude. Watching this documentary gave me even MORE appreciation for the KILLERRRRRRRRR vocals on I'm Back (to Rise!), Killer Instinct is my favourite video game of all time. I listened to Killer Cuts taped to a cassette on a boom box while I would fight my bodyboard on the trampoline pretending to be Jago so as soon as KI 2013 was announced, my instant thought was "I can't wait to see who does the music and what direction they take it in" and to see the entire soundtrack given nothing but love and respect, to see the detail that went into the tracks one by one, this has been amazing. Thank you for playing your part with Combo's theme, it's one of my favourites from the reboot! Also crazy to hear Mick's first CD was Killer Cuts and then the Mortal Kombat Soundtrack, that speaks volumes to his video game music sharing influences from sounds like Fear Factory and Orbital.
Thank You Good Sir! I’m Back to Rise is my favorite track 🔥🔥
I had no idea that Ali Edwards, the now legendary singer in DMC 5 for Devil Trigger and her husband were directly involved with Mick Gordon on Killer Instinct. It's crazy how connected the best music in the industry is.
Casey literally produced bury the light give him some more credit 😂
I can listen to Mick talk about music production in games for hours.
Same
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Literally did that lol
I've always said his technique is fascinating. He's like a scientist or chemist but he uses audio as his ingredients.
@@NYInfamous yeah and it's really interesting knowing is thought process and such
Microsoft: "Mick, we have a low budget"
Mick: **flips his phone open** i have a few ideas...
"I don't mind sharing these old version they're terrible"
First thing he proceeds to play sounds like heaven
That's what I thought, playing some bits, I think to myself they sound good and he goes 'these are terrible'. Welp sorry even your crap sounds awesome, good sir!
No see, when you're an experienced musician, terrible usually just means it sounded generic or uninteresting to them. At this level of skill and experience, artists rarely make genuinely bad sounding music.
And then the second one has that awesome
Vocal track I wish he had kept in the final version!
It's a creative curse: you may make something PASSABLE, but you know in your heart that it's not good enough for the project you're making.
Me: "Damn these sound incredible. Absolutely- "
Mick Gordon: "- they're terrible"
Me: "-Terrible. Really Terrible. How can anyone like this?!"
"This werewolf is ripping the orchestra apart."
Holy hell that is the perfect description of that theme. No wonder it's my favorite--Mick had such a clear vision of how it should sound.
My favorite track? Hands down, it's Herald of Gargos. It's got one of my best friends doing the vocals. Here's the full story, I was taking my morning poop, reading through Twitter when I saw Mick's tweet. I thought of two people, Chris and the vocalist for my band. Told Chris first, pushed him to do it because he loved the game so much. He had ZERO confidence that he'd get the gig. I'm glad he got it, what Mick said about him looking like he's never said a cuss word in his life isn't exactly true, but Chris is genuinely one of the most caring and nicest dudes that walks this planet. .
Thats awesome ,i f*cking love Herald of gargos,send your friend my thanks and congratulations
I'm glad he got it too, because he KILLED it! Herald of Gargos is a damn good track!
Herald of Gargos just slaps harder than most stuff I've listened too.
I listen to the song on spotify, so there's a 1min break of silence before an acoustic bit.
@@Herobrinegrn1 it's 99 seconds
@@chupasaurus Ah, thanks
TJ combo trailer was an absolute "alignment of the stars" miracle, a one in a lifetime event. Max comments on his videos they were working on his moves days before his trailer came out and he barely had weeks of work and they got something kind of functional to show. And the knowing now his music was a last minute crunch makes it even more epic
This is such a rad doc. Thanks so much for pouring your passion into this! I'll be watching this every 5-10 years of my life looking back on what an incredible time we all had. \m/ \m/
This OST is legendary, just like all your other work Casey! Anything you and Ali touch is solid gold.
It's actually incredibly mind-blowing how much work was put into every aspect of this game. Even years on, it is still being talked about and I'm discovering more about what passion was poured into it. As KI is one of my favourite games of all time, I'm proud.
Yea agreed. Not gone lie when I first heard about it my expectations were kind of low but I was at least convinced I'd play it anyway no matter what, just because it was happening. When the game launched I was immediately blown away. That was definitely the most innovative fighting game of last gen.
"I want to represent. I wanted to do the best I could" that's. An understatement. Still listening to TJ's theme all the time and still loving it
Reminder:
People tried to paint Mick Gordon as some sort of two faced asswipe based on a couple tweets removed of context and nuance during the release of Doom Eternal.
A lot of vitriol was slung his way for simply saying "I wouldn't have mixed it that way" and "I probably won't be working with Id again" and all of it came from people injecting those statements with drama and angst when really he was just saying he mixed things differently and wanted to work on other stuff.
That didn't stop everyone from attacking Id until they got an official statement that basically vindicated Mick of any drama, and yet SOMEHOW despite the response literally stating there was no internal drama going on and that Mick and Id had agreed on a Plan B were he not able to release tracks on schedule, the community STILL went for his throat like he'd thrown the Id team under the bus (which, reminder, the Doom community did, not Mick).
And being a Killer Instinct fan this shit is so fucking frustrating to watch because you can immediately tell who only knew about Mick because of Doom. All the things they accused him of were so out of character. Even during development, he was commenting on how certain tracks like Riptor's came out a little stale because he'd allocated more time to Aganos and wished he could give them a do-over. The man is pretty humble and the first five minutes of this video reminded me of that given he goes RIGHT INTO his mistakes before anything else.
Post recent events edit: I was wrong to defend Id in the slightest. Marty did literally everything wrong and Mick wasn't just innocent in this situation, he was the victim.
As much as I love Mick and his work, this is absolutely not the case.
What actually ended up really burning Mick was how he effectively through Chad under the bus and then went completely radio silent while fans started making assumptions and dogpiling him instead of simply coming out and setting the record straight.
Mick definitely does shoulder a lot of the blame for how that went down due to dropping what were essentially bombshells in random reply tweets and then going MIA while the internet freaked out instead of clearing the air.
wtf are you on? it's so weird seeing sensible comments on the internet. get outta here and come back if you just wanna axe some people just for the satisfaction of it. you really don't get the spirit of this whole thing...
@@CribbsTV This assumes he's at all responsible for assumptions people make or drama they create.
Mick didn't fabricate anything. In what were originally private messages to fans, all he said was "I wouldn't have made it that way" which is literally him voicing a creative difference and only an asshole would assume the worst about that statement, and then "I probably won't be working with Id again", which is just stupid to assume means he has an issue with Id. Since Killer Instinct he's done 5 games for Bethesda; Prey, two Wolfenstein titles, and two Doom games. He wanted to do something else and he's not obligated to them, plus he'd already been doing stuff with Bring Me the Horizon and Atomic Heart and vocal about wanting to do something akin to Killer Instinct again.
It was literally the fans who went ballistic and attacked people AND THEN took no accountability for it. It was genuinely one of the most embarrassing things the community has done. But please, tell me why a grown man is obligated to herd a bunch of internet randos who were screenshotting his conversations and theory crafting on their own time. Mick and Id did nothing wrong, this was entirely fan crafted outrage.
yea this so much. i don't believe Id software for a second either. everyone just took martys word as gospel and used it as permission to abuse and blame mick.
that was over a year ago.
the doom eternal ost still isn't on spotify and mick still hasn't responded.
it's fishy AF.
@@ddublu I'm not sure if that was directed at me or Cribbs, but I've loved Mick's work for the last decade and watching people go nuts over something that literally didn't happen and attack both a man and a company I loved over it was a stupidly frustrating experience, and the community was never held accountable for it.
Killer Instinct (the reboot) is now old enough to warrant nostalgia and for years I've been directing newer fans of Mick Gordon's work to this game because most people think he's just "Metal Man" because of the Doom titles. I used to blast Warlord and Polemos back in my Junior year in Highschool to expose people to this music most people would never even hear because it came from a fighting game. I still blast I'm Back because it oozes the lost soul of Rap Hip Hop and more people should be taking notes from it. I don't want to hear anything about "spirit", my argument is literally about people lacking spirit in favor of vitriol.
1:34:38 Holly schnikies, even without the backings Erikas voice still gives me chills
microsoft: "YoU cAn´T jUsT uSe a HuMaN lEg BoNe FoR mUsIc!"
mick gordon´s new objective:
.... you can also hear it in doom eternal´s soundtrack The Betrayer
This is exactly the kind of detail i want to hear from any "big production" music producer. I'd like to see something like this from producers like Swizz Beats or Dr. Dre and of course other game music Producers like Michiru Yamane, Inon Zur, Hans Zimmer, Nobuo Uematsu, Koji Kondo etc
46:39 this is beautiful. It's like a microcosm of TJ Combo's story - looking at his own cybernetics and deciding It's not working, it's not worth it. He's running out of time, he's past his prime, but he needs to make a difficult decision. And so he "throws it all out and tries again", he rips out his cybernetics to get one more authentic attempt. That crazy gamble worked for him, and it worked for Mick and Omega too
When I heard the flute by itself in Thunder’s theme, I instantly got chills, and tears in my eyes. What did you do to me, Mick?! Lol
Edit: I was listening to the Temperance & Vengeance portion and look up to see my 6 year old daughter dancing lol. So awesome!
Me too. I also loved seeing the actual singer behind that track. Thunders theme is my absolute favorite and when I heard that extra bit with the full release I fell in love with it all over again.
Thats also adorable xD
This guy's the next level of music genius. For real.
Mick is from a Aussie town named Mackay. I live in a town several kilometres away, but still fairly close in the grand scheme of things.
I always feel some North Queensland pride whenever his music comes up in conversation about amazing video game soundtracks.
Have you ever seen him IRL before?
Just wondering.
@@Herobrinegrn1 Nah, Mackay is a LONG distance away from where I live. And I suspect he moved either to a big city elsewhere in Australia or to the US (or both) even before the last time I was there back in the 2000's.
@@TheGohanSkywalker Oh, understandable
1:34:16 And so the comment I left on the Village of Whispers upload all those years ago was validated~♥
Luv all of you guys! #BringBackKI
Hinamatoom should be in musical Hall of Fame, its so powerful sounding that its simply a treasure
When Mick Gordon said the reason for 2 versions of Maya's theme was because he lost the original session (56:56), I felt that!
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What an amazing video! Supreme victory!
Thanks for watching. What's your favorite song from the Killer Instinct soundtracks? If you want more KI audio goodness check out "Killer Sounds", our doc on the audio production of the entire Killer Instinct series: czcams.com/video/77hYy4hlzuM/video.html
Hinamatoom
Probably Omen’s theme
I'M BACK TO RISE
Its Polemos for me. I love it because it sounds like an epic or a grand story with many different parts and each one of them is done perfectly leading up to the insane final "climax" or "drop" of the track.
The Tiger Warrior.
Maximilian Dood sent us all over! Thank you for supporting KI and showcasing the absolutely amazing hard work that went into every aspect.
This was fantastic (saw it on Maximilian's stream). KI has one of THE BEST soundtracks, and it's awesome to see how truly inspired it was.
Is the stream up on CZcams?
As a fan of Robin Beanland's work, I was affraid how will it be continued in KI sequel. I am fan of Mick Gordon ever since. I can imagine Celldweller's horror to continue after Mick. Did good job too. Btw for me Mick Gordon with Sonic Mayhem playing Descent into Cerberon... the ultimate epicness.
mick is a god, and most of his non doom work goes unappreciated, thank you for this
KI 2013 has got to have one of my all time favorite soundtracks. It's so good.
- 2:59 Robin Beanland got it right
- 6:11 guitar harmonics
- 10:32 the flute
- 13:17 PAX crowd chant
- 21:32 swedish chant
- 24:44 kangling
- 33:38 I don't know if you can use this
- 43:14 EVO rap
- 44:02 hitting emotionally and lyrically
- 52:51 54:09 rap lyrics
- 1:05:29 mortal kombat
- 1:11:56 you wanna do cinder's theme?
- 1:26:50 468 voices?
- 1:29:11 walking rock
- 1:36:03 seriously happy
- 1:43:52 you have access to a recording studio?
Dude, the kangling sounds like someone's suffering being played from beyond.
I said to myself while watching the last doc "Man, I could just listen to a full doc of Mick describing how he made every song" you've made my dream come true
Esteban you’re the GOAT. Thank you for getting everyone their just due in what is one of the best game OSTs of all time
I love Dooms OST, but oh gosh, Killer Instinct just sounds incredible.
Also Mick wasn't treated too well for Doom, so it may have hampered him alot. But he did still pull off a masterpeice.
This has been a fascinating watch. Genuinely this soundtrack contains some of my favorite pieces of music I’ve ever listened to. So getting this inside knowledge is incredible to me. Thank you for putting this all together!
Village of Whispers is my favorite. The composition is very complex and it's very nuanced. Combining multiple genres is not easy, I know this from experience. And for something done so well, especially when two styles don't typically mesh well - and it's done right. That's genius.
TJ combo's theme was so sick...
Killer Instinct (2013) was initially released when I was about a month into taking guitar lessons. Mick Gordon's OST for it was the work I first came to know from him, and so it came as a pleasant surprise that he was gonna do the music for the 2016 Doom game (which, by the way, I'm sure we all had an inkling that parts of "Inferno" got put into "BFG Division"). I think Seasons 1 and 2 stand out as some of my favorite stuff I heard from Mick, because it was such a large collaborative effort with numerous cultures, other artists, even people from the fighting game community and the Microsoft and Iron Galaxy employees who contributed to "Polemos." I owe it to tracks such as "Hinnamatoom," "Inferno," and "Type-03" that I got into metal music. The mixing of influences from other genres and cultures was really cool to me, even before I got into bands that do the same thing, like Faith No More, Twelve Foot Ninja, Skindred, and others. I once commented on a video featuring Fulgore's theme with an inquiry on how the guitars were played so fast, to which someone answered, "Mick Gordon's best friend is his guitar," or something to the effect.
I'm really glad you reached out to all these people to get their views and stories on how composing KI (2013)'s outstanding tunes went. I can do nothing else but appreciate them a hell of a lot more. I think I'll have to listen back on "Touch Me and I'll Break Your Face" to find all those sayings of "bitch."
I love the direction they took for Orchids theme, one of my favorite characters of all time and this theme is just beautiful in that.
Oh hell yeah, I've been excited to see this! Any chance of interviewing Celldweller about the Season 3 music in the near future?
Oh yeah! I'd love that!
YES!
That would rule too
I think Celldweller and Atlas have some videos about their work for season 3 on their channels. I’ll drop a link if I find them
God damn legend this dude. Thank you for bringing me to tears with those tracks. Remembering the announcement back in 2013. Crazy times.
Brooo shit was sick! I played the games forever waiting for a Sequel , then it came so I got xbone day 1 for KI. It was such a blessing being able to play since day 1. And see it grow from season 1, to season 2 the. Season 3. So many updates so much fun!!!
Mick seems like such a good dude, it breaks my heart that we may never get his fully released cut of the Doom Eternal soundtrack. That was by far my favorite soundtrack of his and its just stuck in legal limbo.....
Killer Instinct is still Mick's magnum opus!
It has yet to be beaten by Mick or anyone else.
Casey's work on DMC5 gets close though.
But everyone, who was even a little involved with the soundtrack deserves all the credit and appreciation. Without them we wouldn't have KI's soundtrack as we have it today.
I personally see the calm, kinda sad sounding part in Herald of Gargos as Jago fighting for crontrol.
Damn he’s good. Thanks for all the work you do Esteban, killed it as always
Killer Instinct is among the few games that I never turn the music off, I absolutely love and adore this game to this day
This is absoluitely amazing, Killer instinct is hands down my favourite video game OSTs just because of the diversity of styles. It's great to see how all these tracks came about, and I'm so glad i went to that PAX panel where Mick recorded the crowd. At the time we were all confused with what was happening but then a few months later, hearing the chanting in-game was one of the coolest things ever, as a gamer and a KI fan.
So awesome to see our boy Chris featured in this documentary and having him be a part of KI history! He’s still tearing it up on vocals i our band! Go check it out and stay Metal!
Ah I love these!
Seeing Gordon and the crew talk about this is VERY inspiring!
Once again Thank you Mick Gordon and everyone involved on making this classic!
Also Warlord is one of my favorites!
This is why i believe mick on the Doom Eternal Soundtrack, he cares deeply for his craft and would never want to turn in poor product
Mick Gordon, the guy who juggles deadlines, combo breaks crunch time into last minutes masterpieces
1:52 I actually burst out laughing, it's like Daytona USA x Killer Instinct
I kinda wanna hear that full version now.
I. LOVE. EVERYONE. IN. THIS. DOC.
Thank You HBTB. You have mastered your craft, and brought so much to people like me who love this stuff.
"I'm not interested in you I just want to talk to your wife"
"Could you give me like... 11 bitches"
Mick out of context is truly something
The fact that the pause / after fight menu plays the notes of the instinct when you go through the options is just the coolest thing ever. I felt like the next gen of Xbox started the moment I heard it.
This game was a passion project disguised as a triple A title. Everything felt deliberate and it also felt like there was little to no interference from the higher ups.
This game was always gonna be a gamble, nothing was ever guaranteed, but god damn did everything pay off. The fact this game is a decade old and still feels new is a testament to how much love and care went into it
It was an XBLA game, far from AAA in terms of budget, better in terms of a game.
Inferno is such a masterpiece of jolting adrenaline-inducing video game music, that last part does exactly what Mick remembers from his childhood.
Mick Gordon: "These old versions are REAAALLY BAD."
-proceeds to show 15 second clips of absolute bangers
Fantastic video and a great accompaniment to Killer Sounds. As a big fan of KI and Mike's work elsewhere (not just DEWM) this was just a great interview to listen along to. Wishing you and yours all the best. 🤘
Everyone talks about the Doom 2016 and Eternal OSTs when talking about Mick Gordon, and those ARE amazing soundtracks, but so many of those people overlook the Killer Instinct soundtrack which in my opinion really put Mick on the map. Such a killer set of tunes that I still come back to every so often to jam out with.
Absolutely adore this soundtrack.
Hilariously, I DO say that Herald of Gargos is my personal favorite, and a huge, huge part of it is those final sections of the song. The "reworking" of Jago's theme into its corrupted, unleashed state is fantastic throughout, but from the section that's more calm at the end right up until the walls come crashing down and song just goes full throttle till the end of the "Killer Instinct" combo section... that part gives me chills every time. It really sounds like someone having one final look at their life, before just letting loose and having fun at the end of the world. No more tomorrow, no more constraints. It's the perfect embodiment of someone embracing the apocalypse as a final opportunity, and I could not love it more.
Having the crowd at Pax record a segment of the audio is awesome. I had a similar situation albeit much later in the games life but, when Shadow Lords came out, I found some ways to break it horrendously with some of the buffs, consumables and guardians you could use. So much so that after sharing some clips James Goddard reached out to me and I got to personally chat with him on Skype for a couple hours. Killer Instinct being one of my absolute favorite games of all time since childhood, best gaming moment of my life. After our chat quite a few changes came to Shadow Lords and he also gave me a couple of codes to games he developed as we both had a liking for shmups. It's something I won't ever forget. Just wish I had a picture or something to put with my collection that I got to influence my favorite game.
Mick Gordon looks like the cool teacher everybody likes to pass time with
Seriously, mick should strongly consider releasing the music in its bits and pieces. Celldweller style to see what the community can come up with as far as remixes go. Also long live the Tribe baby!
These documentaries have been awesome! I’ve been playing KI since season 3 & it still never gets old. Mayas theme is my all time favorite track in this game but it’s hard to not love em all. So cool being able to see what could have been & the process behind it all!
Man, Mick is a f-cking legend at this point. His soundtrack for Killer Instinct and Doom games are freaking iconic! And truth be told, I'm listening to his soundtrack almost every single day and it almost makes me cry of how incredible it is!
With Mick talking so in depth about his process here, you can definitely see what happened with the whole Doom Eternal situation.
Whatever happened, ID was honestly crazy to let this man go. The commitment and amount of work he puts into the music he creates is insane. I hope they can reconcile in the future and make New Doom 3 together.
@@SalvationCode Yeah for sure. Lots of passion but more surely than not he missed some deadlines as well xD and well... That's bad. When he delivers he Delivers for sure.
@@SalvationCode Working in the industry though, he knows he has to meet deadlines. So there's only so much bullshit they can put up with. I love Mick and his music but you gotta get shit done too.
Its funny hearing Mick talking about aspects that made those tracks specific to a character cuz I remember when I first got the killercuts album I was listening to it and every track didn't had a character name assigned but you knew by the sound and arrangament to what character that track belongs. Its awesome to see and hear how he went into that process to bring it back to life with a new and more modern sound at the same time praising Robin Beanland`s work. Thats a true music composer there. My respects to Mick Gordon👏🏾
Here for the spinal theme lol
The passion is heart warming in the most…punchy of ways
This is so awesome. Especially all of the takes that didn't work or make it into the final product. Gives a lot of context into how much testing and experimenting goes into stuff like this.
And I would drop my frying pan too if mick tweeted at me asking to help with a game 😆
The amount of detail of love out into all of the music by Mick is incredible. It really shows the passion and drive he has to create something special. All of that hard work put in by him and everyone else involved easily shows in the quality of the finished soundtrack.
God Hinnamatoom is so POWERFUL dude lol I love it so much
Mick is a rare breed man. Such love and passion for the craft.
Mick gordon is one of the best at making a great soundtrack..seriously he is one of the best if you want a good soundtrack give him his freedom and help em out. The music he makes is so special to me :D hes a good dude as well
2023 and Hinnamatoom It's still my favorite track in the game. Thanks, Mick ❤
This is so fucking cool not just in the context of making music but in making art in general. I'm an animator and so much of what he talks about regarding the process is identical (talking about Mick).
Love Mick Gordon and his Killer Cuts!
@Hold Back to Block I can't thank you enough for this!
I had massive goosebumps several times watching this documentary lol
Mick is SO passionate about those themes, I could listen to him talk about them for many many hours! It's so much work and so much effort, glued with very very talented people, and it delivers because everyone loves KI music!
Thanks again Mick, you're a legend, man!
I dont know why but herald of gargos was my favourite from that season
That track is freaking insane !
Ever since the reveal for Killer Instinct 2013 I was in love. And when I heard the music I felt they had nailed it. One of the first games I got with my Xbox One at lunch. For whatever reason all this time I never actually looked to see who composed the music. I had no idea Mick Gordon was a part of it. But everything falls into place now. When you get that guy on board especially for some good guitar, metal, rock music you can't go wrong. He really nailed the theme song perfectly. He gets it. And the rest of the album is excellent as well. Great video and thanks for sharing. Thanks for sharing. Very cool to see this kind of behind the scenes stuff.
Temperence and vengeance is insane, it brings me to tears
Excellent Documentary, Mick is an amazing artist and for me personally as a Killer Instinct OG I could not think of anyone better to do the soundtrack, to the extent I think season 3 lacked without his input. I hope Mick returns for future KI sequels
I've sunked thousands of hours into Killer Instinct and these documentaries offer something new to my favorite game of all time. Thank you ❤
My favorite soundtrack will always be TJ Combo I’m back to rise,it just to crazy and hype. Im glad there’s a look at all of killer instinct soundtracks.All of them sounded to unique and thrilling to be forgotten.Glad the killer instinct has a future.
that leg bone sounds like death. That sad guitar in omen's theme now it holds more weight
even though this doc is nearly 2 hours long, i’ve watched the whole thing twice already LOL i absolutely love this look behind the music of KI!
Imagine having the right to brag you were one of the voices singing in Hinnamatoom, my friends wouldn't hear the end of it.
Damn, he did an amazing job with KI soundtrack, and not only that, but he gave A TON of credit to all the contributors. Phenomenal job, man!
Hope Mick's ok, there was quite a kerfluffle over his mess with the Doom Eternal soundtrack
i hope he comes back
What is a kerfluffle? Sounds like a German pancake.
@@cosmozapallo4530 I have a feeling it was Mick being an artist first and meeting deadlines later. Everything I've heard is that it really was more his fault than anyone elses.
Love all these KI docs so much!
What an incredible accomplishment this game is
I'm just glad this video exists
That bone flute sounded like a demon in agony...damn x.x!
This documantry is amazing, seeing behind the scenes, witnessing the secrets of the best themes of any fighting charactors ever is a Killer (Get it, no i'll stop.) Hoping they'll make another documantry on season 3's soundtracks’.
Kim Wu
Tusk
Arbiter
Rash
Mira
Gargos
General Raam
Eyedol
Mick, please say "Bone Xylophone" more frequently, I adore it.
I was hoping Mick would talk about Herald of Gargos, as that was my favorite track after listening to the OST version. Hits harder than the in-game version, has IMO the better updated version of Gargos' theme than the actual Gargos theme itself in season 3, and all those additions (especially that 'sad' part) set the song even further apart from Jago's theme.
And the fact it was done in a very short amount of time, in crunch no less, really impressed me all the more. Sad that Mick had to leave after finishing season 2, but he left KI with a bang. Thank you for all this.
I dont know how many time i see this vídeo but i keep getting hyped every time, this is just an amazing love letter to vídeogames
MICK GORDON YOU BLOODY LEGEND!
🔊🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Your Music was KILLER!
Watching this in 2023 and this was amazing. I have always loved KI music since the 90's . And this was just one of the best videos I have ever seen .
God I could just listen to Mick talk about his craft for hours on end. The documentaries are fantastic, so much insight!
Please Mick Gordon gives some of that genius to Mortal Kombat one of those days.
So impressed with utter respect they gave native Americans in that Thunder theme. The work in that track alone is astonishing .