HOW TO RETURN ANY SERVE | STEP-BY-STEP GUIDE
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- čas přidán 10. 05. 2024
- Welcome back to Rational Table Tennis Analysis. In this video, we'll focus on all the fundamentals for receiving any serve. Serve receiving can be tricky for many players even at the top level. I'll first explain how to read the service spin and placement, then I'll talk about the many different shot options for your return and how to make the right choice, and lastly how to return the lefty pendulum serve which is really hard to return well for many right-handed players.
0:00 Intro
0:45 Focus on ONLY the contact point
1:09 Topspin / Backspin / Float (No spin)
2:30 Sidespin [and how to receive]
4:25 Read the Service placement
5:10 Shot selection / Return options
6:08 Find a balance between attack / defence
6:43 How to return the lefty pendulum serve / right-handed tomahawk serve
8:21 Teaser of next video
8:53 Conclusion
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So helpful! The coaching is amazing! I loved the graph and the in-depth explanations. I've been having troubles with serve returns for a while now, but I've never thought of it this deeply! Thank so much, this will improve my gameplay for sure!
This is a Lot to learn in a single video ! I am a boomer and like to improve my game , you definitively help me , thank You.
If you have to watch only a single video. This is the one
This is one of the best TT tutorial videos. Thank you very much.
I hope to use all these tips and techniques during my next training and matches.
Best of luck!
Great video!!! Tqvm!!! Keep it up ❤❤
Good channel, thanks for the sharing, and clear guidelines
You should also mention listening to the impact sound of bat hitting the ball on the serve. Loud vs soft impact sound can contribute to reading backspin vs topspin serve. Also the way a server holds the bat has to taken into account on topspin, backspin & float reading. For instance I do what I call a reverse tomahawk where the bottom of the handle is at 12 o'clock, so now you have to read the bat hitting the ball from a different orientation including if sidespin is added. Thanks for the info - loved the graphic on 3 types of returns vs type of serve.
I see you have done lots of research. Thank you for sharing.
Very useful & explained in detail. I am confident now to return the different types of services in a better way without giving service points. Thank you 😊
Glad to hear!
I have learned a lot from your video. Thank you so much.
This is amazing serve return video! Thank so much 🙏🙏⭐️⭐️⭐️🔥
I will subscribe & share it to my pp friends, looking forward for another great vids !
Awesome, thank you!
Thanks for another excellent video Elliott.
Very welcome! Hope you enjoyed it!
Great tutorials 🙌😊 many thanks
Thank you this helped me a lot in a real game
Very good teaching. Well done.
Great vid. Thank you 🙏❤️✨🥇✨👌
Excellent Tips
Terima kasih, video yang sangat bermanfaat dan menambah pengetahuan saya tentang cara bermain tenis meja.
Man this was amazing could you do a video of teaching/showing differnet kind of serves too? for more variations to keep in arsenal.
Thanks! Yes I’ll try to do that over the next few months 👍🏻
@@rationalttanalysis oki doki :)
@@rationalttanalysis could you please consider underspin hook serve in your future video as it seems to be very hard for me to generate good underspin for hook/jab serve let alone disguise the serve.
The slow motion serves video will be a great video to study, if you will comment the spin and how we can judge it. Like in your first three examples. Thanks in advance!!!
sure, will do a range of serve demonstrations in the next few weeks so stay tuned!
Waiting already for the next video 🎉
Thanks :D
Hopefully it'll be out on Sunday!
I got all the three corect topspin , backspin and float
Nice bro, thanks.
Thanks a lot!
Thanx, cool tip!
Thx....love it
Thanks!
Am i the only one who did not understand anything
Good lesson
Excellent vdo
Very good content
Amazing
ADAM BOBROW!!!!!!!!
✅ for any normal side spin (right or left), just receive it with a top spin push or top spin smash.
✅ for a side under spin (right or left), just push it with a chop or hard chop.
The difficulty of the service lies on how you read it and how fast you react. Practice!
tq for this
Useful
thanks for this video. i learned a lot. can you please provide some "practice drills" you have with a partner. i just go to the club not knowing what to do.
Sure! Do you mean practice drills for serve receive or just practice drills in general ?
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Thanks a lot!
Awesome
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Thanks! This helps a lot! I was wondering: Are there some tips / tactics to return serves from a pen hold player? In practice the spins principles are the same of course, but are there some commonly played serves or ways of hitting from a pen hold player that requires some specific adjustments? THANKS!
As a penholder you have an advantage when receiving short serves as you have more flexibility in the wrist. The forehand flick is always a great short to learn for penholders when it comes to returning serves, this can apply to any spin, topspin, backspin, sidespin... so yeah, try to develop the control when returning short serves. I will try making videos specifically for penholders in the coming weeks...
thanks for your answer. I actually asked how to return from a pen holder. So I am not a pen holder, but sometimes play with penholders ;-)@@rationalttanalysis
Thank you, keep going
Thanks!
Nice
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Hi, great video, congrats!, but I think there is a mistake. In the time 2:12 of the video, the serve is float, it's not topspin as you said becase the movement of the stroke is from high to low position...are you agree?
Thank you for your kind words! Although the overall movement is from a high to low position, as the server contacts the ball, his wrist actually flicks upwards, therefore producing topspin. Remember it is only the contact point that matters. This serve can be deceptive at times and it is called the hook serve. I have made a video on how to execute this serve : czcams.com/video/F5SjGxqbEEQ/video.htmlsi=1nYtst1GkymbN6JX&t=35
Hope this helps! 😀
2:10 i'm a newbie in table tennis, i see the bat motion is going downward, how can it be a top spin?
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nice video, there are some errors / misconceptions in it thou coz it is not this easy in reality:
1) ur division of the blade is not true always, it contradicts the common pendulum topspin serve where u hit the ball at the end of a full wrist motion with the "lower" part of the blade at the left of the handle, so ur picture at 1:51 is wrong in that case where it is topspin and not backspin
2) the shuffle serve at 2:13 is not topspin
it is a pure sidespin serve with an added downward motion to distract the reciever and he is pushing with a very open bat-angle which is why the ball is going high, coz it has zero backspin on it but not coz it is topspin
it is impossible to produce topspin without any kind of upward motion regardless of where u contact the ball on the blade, at best it can be float / pure sidespin,
the only other way is throwing the ball high and letting it fall on ur half-opened racket on which the ball gets a slight topspin on its own from the falling speed, but that doesnt comes from any racket movement
Thanks for your comment!
Good spot for the first point! I'm not too sure about the pendulum topspin serve, maybe you're right! I need to try it out next time when I go down to my club. But I'm just wondering if you contact the lower part of your bat for the pendulum topspin, which part of the bat do you contact for the pendulum backspin?
For the second point, I'm pretty sure that serve is side-topspin. If you look carefully and in slow motion, the server did move his bat upwards before going down as the after-motion. But you're right, to produce topspin, there must be an upward motion.
Thank you... Good and helpful tutorial. What is a float serve? I don't understand. Does anybody know the german word for float serve ...???
Float serve is a serve with no spin
@@rationalttanalysis thank you for this information...!!! 🙏🙏🙏
Good video. But noone explains properly how to Return that Side spin (especially the windshield piper) serve. Even in your Table you showed, Sidespin returning Strategy is missing. u have covered only Topspin & Backspin in that.
1:30 Only applicable for shakehand grip.
This should have been a 60 FPS video. Reading a serve from 30 FPS video where the most important part often happens between the frames is rather impossible.
What is difference between push and touch?
Touch is a short push
Thank you for the lesson... Would be better the text are not in white colour
one more note for the "service placement" part: if you're watching where the ball touches the table, you're already late and will lose the point! Watch how high the opponent touches the ball! If your opponent lowers the ball to the top of the table, you get a long ball! If it is high, half high, near the chest, the ball will surely be short! It is almost impossible to serve short by hitting the ball close to the table...:) But of course, there is a technique for that too ;) If you use this tip, you have way more time to react and action: step back and attack long balls >> u MUST attack EVERY long ball in TT!
Amazing tip!
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look hard,i'm still learning..🤔
lost me at 0:38. the first serve it side/back spin not side/top lol
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First bounce location does not tell about the length of the serve. Ball bounce arc middle point does not need to be exactly over the net. It can be far on your or opponent's halves.
You can produce any spin with any part of the bat, there is nothing like: when the ball hits the top part its topspin
You can see it in minute 2:50
Yea spin definitely depends on the motion your racket is doing when contacting the ball. Idk what this guy was talking about
First one is not side topspin it's side backspin
It is side topspin!!
I think its side bacmspin
Yes
A half long backspin serve doesn’t kick forward like that, so we know it’s topspin :)
Look at the elbow, if it’s high, then topspin. Ma long is pulling upwards while doing it creating topspin
You telling us that touching at the lower half of the racket ( at the service ) means BACKSPIN. That is definetely nonsense. It depends on where to you move the racket while hitting. Upward forward then means topspin.
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The rule should be changed : 3 sec before the serve, the whole (100% of all the racket) racket and the whole full arm should be visible. In volley ball there s lots of rules about the serve as well and the ball is much slower than ping-pong.
This isn’t ping pong it’s table tennis, two different sports.
He says that if the bat contacts the ball at the bottom of the bat it is backspin and topspin for the upper half of the bat. This is not true. The ball can hit any part of the rubber/bat, the type of spin is determined by the direction of the bat at impact.
VERY SOFISTICATED//BUT THANKS!
The spin doesn't have anything to do with where the ball touches the racket - it only depends on how the racket moves. Also, in the example that you wanted us to see, it only shows the back of the player and the back of the racket - you can't say where the ball touches it.
Honestly the spin should not be allowed, few weeks ago I played with some seniors and obviously I was faster, creative and overall better as long as we played normal / flat.. but as soon as this old lady start usings those weird spins almost none of my balls landed on the table etc… it just feels not good because I am obviously more athletic, younger etc overall talented, but of course they are using spiny serves and get free points
Poor audio! Poor audio! Poor audio! You are fare away from microphone.
Also this video did not help at all.. you only made things even more complicated.. f everyone who is using strong spins and getting free points against new players etc
Thanks!
Amazing