I can see why people are shy about doing this, IF they watch this video. What a mess. Crazy me, I used adhesive tubeless rim tape (after wiping well with alcohol). Punched a hole through the tape with a small Philip's screwdriver for the valve. Didn't drill a thing but used a tubeless valve sized for a regular presta hole. Fit the tire onto the rim and inflated the tire with compressed air (main difference), seating the bead. Deflated the tire and added the sealant through the valve tube after removing the core and spun the wheel on it's axle for a bit while tilting the wheel from one side to another. Let it sit for an hour or so to make sure it was holding air, and it was. Put the wheels on the bike and I've been flat free and air tight for 6 months now. Nice and clean and easy. Just use compressed air and you're in business.
good video thank you. i really dont care whether i have a tube or tubeless, but i would prefer which ever way is less prone to having punctures on my mountain bike.
Either way gets punctures just as easy, the tubeless setup has no risk of a pinch flat which is when your tube gets pinched between your tire and wheel but if you put tire sealant in your inner tubes it will seal most punctures just as well as a tubeless setup.
Thank you for sharing your experience with public. It has been very helpful. I have a question to ask outside this video, if you do not mind. The gear of my bicycle, Giant brand, slips whenever I want to accelerate or go up a hill. What can be the cause? Thank you
You have an excessively worn chain, front chaining or rear cassette (multi cog gearset). After much use, chain stretches & cog teeth wear on one side. Keep them clean of built up crud using degreaser and brush & use quality light lube. I drop 24 drops of "Tri-Flow" on chain while slowly rotating gears backwards from top of chain. On my Giant Contend SL2 Disc I get 3500 miles per chain, 7000 miles per rear cassette &10000 per front chain rings. IE: New Chain: every year New Cassette: every 2 years New Chainrings: every 3 years That is the typical rate of wear on a typical road bike. This can vary greatly due to conditions. If you ride more or less miles just adjust that formula. I'm a home bike mechanic & avid cyclist with 9 bikes in my garage....
My inner rim valve hole is around 8mm. I checked that Stan drills it with 3/8th of an inch drill = 9.525mm. Is 8mm big enough or do I still have to drill?
Depends on the type of compressor a little 12v doesn't cost much a larger compressor that can give a good blast of air that's a different story. Then you are 100 plus u.s.
Cause Britain, apparently, doesn't have Harbor Freight Tools, Walmart, Home Depot & Lowes all competing to put a nice affordable air compressor in their hands ! I've got 3 types in my shop. Here in Texas most any guy has one...completely normal equipment.
Al. With regards to punctures, there's abit at the bottom of the page saying "the sealant you put inside the tire will fill small punctures" i take it does that by centrifugal force so does that mean the sealant stays as a liquid and nevers solidifies?? or will it start to solidifie after a year or two?? thanks matt
+Steven Fitzgerald Very much "in theory". In practice, with road wheels, resp. tires, you have a much higher inner air pressure and a much lower volume. Both disadvantages. And on the road you do not try to ride with the lowest possible air pressure in order to increase traction and minimize rolling resistance, do you?
smartest man alive that I say I'm says leave the freaking tube in put the sealant in it like slime this will help seal the tire and it's double protection not just relying on the tire itself
I don't get this very well :S I though that tubeless system is without inner tube and here he put inner tube and than tubeless milk. How will this work? I have normal rim and wanna put tubeless system...
It wasn't an inner tube, it was a special strip - a bit like rim tape - with the valve built into it. I'm not keen on Stan's though. I just did a conversion using an Orange Seal kit which uses a thin rim tape and separate valves.
Tubeless have a different bead, the sidewalls are slightly thicker, and some even have an extra layer or weave of material within the rubber layers to add stiffness and puncture resistance to make up for the lack of a tube which would normally provide structure and stiffness.
Yes you either do "Split Tube" where valve remains part of tube assembly OR you cut valve from old tube & screw it tightly in valve hole using stem nut (presto type) or if Shrader valve preferred buy a specialty externally threaded shrader valve. On my 26 x 4 fat tire conversion I just used Schrader valve tube 24" split tube - it effectively makes a "Stans Rim Strip" like video shows but you're laying tube across rim edge to aid in tire bead seating / sealing. Make sense ?
From what I've read, the Stan's mixture will actually block new holes in the tire. You would of course need to top up the fluid in the tire afterwards.
Turn your tires inside out, place inner tubes into them, and pump the tubes up just enough to fill out the creases in the tires. If it's sunny out, leave them in the sun to warm/soften them up, or use a hair dryer. Let them cool off, deflate the tubes, pull them out, flip the tires right side in and place them on the rims. What this does is open/widen the tires out towards the rim bead better, closer, and tighter so they hold the air and seal. Beforehand, make sure your tire beads are clean and even by gently (but firmly) sliding a fine piece of sandpaper, steel wool, or 3M green pad around them, inside and out. Some tire beads have small manufacturing irregularities (flashing) that will inhibit sealing in a tubeless application.
If the bead wall naturally does not sit against the rim wall, how are you supposed to air it up? That is the part that all these videos skip over. “Add soap and water then just air it up” ...but it’s not air tight. Do you wait an amount of time after adding the sealant?
To get tires to seat and seal: Turn your tires inside out, place inner tubes into them, and pump the tubes up just enough to fill out the creases in the tires. If it's sunny out, leave them in the sun to warm/soften them up, or use a hair dryer. Let them cool off, deflate the tubes, pull them out, flip the tires right side in and place them on the rims. What this does is open/widen the tires out towards the rim bead better, closer, and tighter so they hold the air and seal. Beforehand, make sure your tire beads are clean and even by gently (but firmly) sliding a fine piece of sandpaper, steel wool, or 3M green pad around them, inside and out. Some tire beads have small manufacturing irregularities (flashing) that will inhibit sealing in a tubeless application.
@@KingZoneOne Fuck, how am I going to be able to carry all this stuff plus lunch in my back jersey pockets! I've heard of a much simpler system using an inner tube. I'll get one of these instead.
Foxicus Foxity Gaming must clean the baby powder some manufactureres use on the rubber to mais it last for decades in stores : some how l think this is the principal reazon he used water/soap .
If you have one, yes. They didn't use one because they don't have one. However, you won't have one out on the trails or highway if you do have to swap tires.
If tires are set up correctly and fairly tight, the tire/rim interface creates the seal. No soap gets in. My ghetto tubeless set ups work so so well theyll hold air without sealant for several days. Always inflate 1st without sealant! Saves money, mess and frustration! Also ensures you have a good reliable set up.
RollinRat Agreed. I always inflate without sealant and no core. Them install core and reinflate and wait. Then remove core and inject sealant through stem. Gives the bead a chance to acclimate to the rim especially if either the tire or rim aren’t actually tubeless compatible.
If you do it right, keeping fluid in tires and properly inflated, your friends will be the ones begging for your spare tubes! The only thing tubeless cant seal up is big tears in the tire. Dont ride lightweight XC tires unless you race!! Ive run ghetto tubeless 15 years with NOT ONE FAILURE besides ripped sidewalls. I frequently ride on trail with more rocks than dirt.
Hi MBR I have successfully gone tubeless got the bead first time on both wheels. But is it normal to lose some pressure over time say a few weeks to a month?
hello hun A tubeless setup cuts off some weight on the wheels, which will allow you to accelerate the bike easier since there is less rotational mass. Going tubeless also allows you to run lower tire pressures without risking pinch flats; this gives you better grip in slippery and loose conditions. And finally, the sealant you put inside the tire will fill small punctures. Larger rips will mean replacing the tire, but you would have to do that even with tubes.
There's always a critic...mountain bike tyres inflate fast and without any effort with a track pump as was used in the video ...I, m guessing your a novice or maybe don't even ride a bike .....
Yeah so when you claim it's time to inflate the rim it was already inflated as you can see in the video, I call bullshit, did you end up using a compressor?
+Blake Reichelt - I see what he's talking about -- at 6:17 it looks like the tire is already inflated. Great video, I can't wait to try this on my bike. One question, I hear that a benefit of going tubeless is reducing rotating weight on the wheel - does two cups of sealant actually weight less than an inner tube? Just for argument's sake, if tubed and tubeless wheels weigh the same, are their other benefits to going tubeless?
I can see why people are shy about doing this, IF they watch this video. What a mess.
Crazy me, I used adhesive tubeless rim tape (after wiping well with alcohol). Punched a hole through the tape with a small Philip's screwdriver for the valve. Didn't drill a thing but used a tubeless valve sized for a regular presta hole. Fit the tire onto the rim and inflated the tire with compressed air (main difference), seating the bead. Deflated the tire and added the sealant through the valve tube after removing the core and spun the wheel on it's axle for a bit while tilting the wheel from one side to another. Let it sit for an hour or so to make sure it was holding air, and it was. Put the wheels on the bike and I've been flat free and air tight for 6 months now. Nice and clean and easy. Just use compressed air and you're in business.
It's nice you show the cheap and the expensive way. When Al wants a break from the bike business, he can be a matrimonial consoler.
Thank you. Your video helped me a lot
Thanks best demonstration yet
Thanks for the video; very informative.
Thanks for that. Very helpful.
Yes, it's so easy a matter only of iniative. Thanks Al.
Great video! Thank you
Would love a link to this rimstrip/valve combo you use...
thank you, can't wait to try it.
Why did you have to drill a hole in the rim? Couldn't you use the existing valve hole in the rim?
A tubeless valve is slightly larger
Man i swear he is sponsered by soapy water. All he used all video😂
Great video! I like the all white background. These guys make it look easy. Keep ROLLING. Later
good video thank you.
i really dont care whether i have a tube or tubeless, but i would prefer which ever way is less prone to having punctures on my mountain bike.
Either way gets punctures just as easy, the tubeless setup has no risk of a pinch flat which is when your tube gets pinched between your tire and wheel but if you put tire sealant in your inner tubes it will seal most punctures just as well as a tubeless setup.
Nice tutorial man.i really need this.thanks alot.keep it up.100% happy🤩🤩🤩😍😍🥰🥰👏👏👏👏😘😘
Thank you for sharing your experience with public. It has been very helpful. I have a question to ask outside this video, if you do not mind.
The gear of my bicycle, Giant brand, slips whenever I want to accelerate or go up a hill. What can be the cause? Thank you
You have an excessively worn chain, front chaining or rear cassette (multi cog gearset).
After much use, chain stretches & cog teeth wear on one side.
Keep them clean of built up crud using degreaser and brush & use quality light lube.
I drop 24 drops of "Tri-Flow" on chain while slowly rotating gears backwards from top of chain.
On my Giant Contend SL2 Disc I get 3500 miles per chain, 7000 miles per rear cassette &10000 per front chain rings.
IE:
New Chain: every year
New Cassette: every 2 years
New Chainrings: every 3 years
That is the typical rate of wear on a typical road bike. This can vary greatly due to conditions.
If you ride more or less miles just adjust that formula.
I'm a home bike mechanic & avid cyclist with 9 bikes in my garage....
Can you do this with a wire bead tire? Most all tires i have seen used for tubeless set ups were foldable.
My inner rim valve hole is around 8mm. I checked that Stan drills it with 3/8th of an inch drill = 9.525mm. Is 8mm big enough or do I still have to drill?
Is it possible to wipe the inside of a regular tire with a thin coat of silicone to make it more impervious to leaks before using Stans?
Does your rim use schrader valves before?
Are you Cliff Clavin’s son? A compliment.
I don’t think your suposed to drill into your rim because you want a tight fit for the valve
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will this work on single walled rims
Didn't thought that would be possible! But what is the benefit? Is it lighter? Will it handle all kind of puncture?
yep
you can already inflate the tires with less air, and that it is positive in some extremely uphill passage!! tires have more grip!
i am going to get Stan's No Tubes standard kit on saturday and try it
Another video I watched yesterday shows adding glitter to the Stan's NoSeal liquid.
That turns out to work fairly well.
seth's bike haks?
Where can I get the kit you are showcasing? Specifically the rim strip. Thank you
Basically will it seal any thing else besides running over thorns ?
is there any weight loss by using this system?
Does it work for road?
Why do i habe to drill? Is the already for the valve existing hole not big enough?
so, any standar rim can go tune less? or not
I dont get all these english guys thinking compressors are expensive. A good manual pump costs more. The tubeless kit itself costs more.
I was about to say the same thing.
Air compressors are quite expensive here in England. You can't get a really good air compressor for under £150
Depends on the type of compressor a little 12v doesn't cost much a larger compressor that can give a good blast of air that's a different story. Then you are 100 plus u.s.
Cause Britain, apparently, doesn't have Harbor Freight Tools, Walmart, Home Depot & Lowes all competing to put a nice affordable air compressor in their hands !
I've got 3 types in my shop.
Here in Texas most any guy has one...completely normal equipment.
what? a giyo pump is like 15 quid, a compressor is like 200
Is the tire normal or is it tubeless Ready?
is that your grandfathers drill?
Al. With regards to punctures, there's abit at the bottom of the page saying "the sealant you put inside the tire will fill small punctures" i take it does that by centrifugal force so does that mean the sealant stays as a liquid and nevers solidifies?? or will it start to solidifie after a year or two??
thanks
matt
From what I've seen it takes a long time to solidify so this process isn't recommended for rarely used bicycles.
Can i put motorcycle tubeless valve?
Great video, In theory, could this be done to a road wheel?
+Steven Fitzgerald yes
+Steven Fitzgerald
Very much "in theory".
In practice, with road wheels, resp. tires, you have a much higher inner air pressure and a much lower volume.
Both disadvantages.
And on the road you do not try to ride with the lowest possible air pressure in order to increase traction and minimize rolling resistance, do you?
smartest man alive that I say I'm says leave the freaking tube in put the sealant in it like slime this will help seal the tire and it's double protection not just relying on the tire itself
Looking for a good cummuter rim and tire. But would like to go off the path once in a wile. And help would be great. New to biking.
How to
ReMove the trail king tyre in wide rim with sealant
_Tia
Can you do that process with Maxxis CrossMark tires, not tubeless can you convert them?
Yup.. !!
Sorry .... Does this work the same for road bikes
if only it was actually this easy hahaha
Yes I just tried and failed using stans no tube
I don't get this very well :S I though that tubeless system is without inner tube and here he put inner tube and than tubeless milk. How will this work? I have normal rim and wanna put tubeless system...
It wasn't an inner tube, it was a special strip - a bit like rim tape - with the valve built into it. I'm not keen on Stan's though. I just did a conversion using an Orange Seal kit which uses a thin rim tape and separate valves.
Does the soapy water affect the sealant any? Do you have any numbers on how much weight this saves over conventional tire/tube/sealant? Thanks.
pbodymathis
weight isn't important if one can avoid a flat tire.
How well does this hold? especially since the rim isnt designated tubeless.
the rim strip seals it because of the air that is pushing on it,
whats rhe difference between a tubeless tyre & a regular one?,is the bead/sidewall thicker or???.
Tubeless have a different bead, the sidewalls are slightly thicker, and some even have an extra layer or weave of material within the rubber layers to add stiffness and puncture resistance to make up for the lack of a tube which would normally provide structure and stiffness.
Rotor ?
Can this work for big guys I weight 270
hey can I use motorcycle tyre's tubeless sealant for my cycle tyre to make my cycle's tyre tubeless.
Yes
Every time i watch these vids it reminds me of the construct from the Matrix,
Can't beat a bit of soapy water on the rim ;)
Can you use non tubeless valve for non tubeless rim conversion
Yes you either do "Split Tube" where valve remains part of tube assembly OR you cut valve from old tube & screw it tightly in valve hole using stem nut (presto type) or if Shrader valve preferred buy a specialty externally threaded shrader valve.
On my 26 x 4 fat tire conversion I just used Schrader valve tube 24" split tube - it effectively makes a "Stans Rim Strip" like video shows but you're laying tube across rim edge to aid in tire bead seating / sealing.
Make sense ?
Wouldn't it be better to ream the valve hole rather that drill it?
Yes but reamers are far less common vs drill bits.
Using a file afterwards = same result
What the benefit from going tublees when you pop the rim you need to buy a whole new right
From what I've read, the Stan's mixture will actually block new holes in the tire. You would of course need to top up the fluid in the tire afterwards.
Can i go tubeless even my tires are not tubeless ready?
anyone tried the ghetto tubless method using a 20" bmx tube on a 26" wheel?,just curious to know if it actually works :D
it does. just put it on the rim so it seals every hole and pour your sealant in
I tried to do this on my wtb 29er laser disc rims and could not seat the tires at all. Back to my inner tubes after a few tries.
John Cruz ... /... , did you wash-off the baby-powder with water and soap , as we can see on this one trailer ? Just curious .
Turn your tires inside out, place inner tubes into them, and pump the tubes up just enough to fill out the creases in the tires. If it's sunny out, leave them in the sun to warm/soften them up, or use a hair dryer. Let them cool off, deflate the tubes, pull them out, flip the tires right side in and place them on the rims. What this does is open/widen the tires out towards the rim bead better, closer, and tighter so they hold the air and seal. Beforehand, make sure your tire beads are clean and even by gently (but firmly) sliding a fine piece of sandpaper, steel wool, or 3M green pad around them, inside and out. Some tire beads have small manufacturing irregularities (flashing) that will inhibit sealing in a tubeless application.
If the bead wall naturally does not sit against the rim wall, how are you supposed to air it up? That is the part that all these videos skip over. “Add soap and water then just air it up” ...but it’s not air tight. Do you wait an amount of time after adding the sealant?
Spencer Smith ... /... , ¿?.
... isn't the sealant already inside the tire ... ( ?)
To get tires to seat and seal: Turn your tires inside out, place inner tubes into them, and pump the tubes up just enough to fill out the creases in the tires. If it's sunny out, leave them in the sun to warm/soften them up, or use a hair dryer. Let them cool off, deflate the tubes, pull them out, flip the tires right side in and place them on the rims. What this does is open/widen the tires out towards the rim bead better, closer, and tighter so they hold the air and seal. Beforehand, make sure your tire beads are clean and even by gently (but firmly) sliding a fine piece of sandpaper, steel wool, or 3M green pad around them, inside and out. Some tire beads have small manufacturing irregularities (flashing) that will inhibit sealing in a tubeless application.
@@KingZoneOne Fuck, how am I going to be able to carry all this stuff plus lunch in my back jersey pockets! I've heard of a much simpler system using an inner tube. I'll get one of these instead.
What are cons of tubeless
will this work on regular non tubeless tyres?
It should, I'd be surprised if it didn't.
Foxicus Foxity Gaming must clean the baby powder some manufactureres use on the rubber to mais it last for decades in stores : some how l think this is the principal reazon he used water/soap .
Why u so clean
What do you do with the tyre levers? 😂
Right this video is a joke.
i use only duct tape. works fine
What is it you put it on the white gum.
Dimitrije Ilic water and detergent to wash-off the baby powder off the tires .( I guess ).
Can I use car air compressor?
If you have one, yes. They didn't use one because they don't have one.
However, you won't have one out on the trails or highway if you do have to swap tires.
Doesn't all that soap residue interact badly with the sealant solution?
That's what I was thinking. I would suggests limiting the soapy water to the bead areas of the tire only, and not the inside (where it won't dry).
Sloshing soapy froth looks cool for the camera, but a very, very small amount makes it into the tire. Non-issue in my experience...
If tires are set up correctly and fairly tight, the tire/rim interface creates the seal. No soap gets in. My ghetto tubeless set ups work so so well theyll hold air without sealant for several days. Always inflate 1st without sealant! Saves money, mess and frustration! Also ensures you have a good reliable set up.
RollinRat Agreed. I always inflate without sealant and no core. Them install core and reinflate and wait. Then remove core and inject sealant through stem. Gives the bead a chance to acclimate to the rim especially if either the tire or rim aren’t actually tubeless compatible.
You will need Tubeless rum tape!
Is that alcohol based?
Sounds like I need to add a bucket, sponge and some soapy water to my saddlebag of tools + spare tube.
If you do it right, keeping fluid in tires and properly inflated, your friends will be the ones begging for your spare tubes! The only thing tubeless cant seal up is big tears in the tire. Dont ride lightweight XC tires unless you race!!
Ive run ghetto tubeless 15 years with NOT ONE FAILURE besides ripped sidewalls. I frequently ride on trail with more rocks than dirt.
skipped the most important part- popping the beads
Can I do this with my 2017 trek marlin 5? I was told that I couldn't because the back wheel rim was quite narrow. Anybody help?
Humble Anarchist I have a 2019. Did you find answers?
The rim is already have a hole, then why did you have to drilled the rim ?
+Dũng Lê Văn He only makes one side of the hole bigger for better fit.
Tzu-Wei Huang ... to enlarge ...
the previous valve was thinner than the one in the rubber band , he is using now.
Hi MBR
I have successfully gone tubeless got the bead first time on both wheels. But is it normal to lose some pressure over time say a few weeks to a month?
greasemonger29 yes it is. It's smart to check air weekly
Markus Bouman
Cheers bud🚵♀️
Is that a tubeless rim?
Is not a sure way but it is cheap. Because there is the probability of broke the valve or its gummy base and there is no come back jejej
I know that the point of the video is a how to,...but what is the point of tubeless anyway. The tire will still puncture and go flat.
hello hun A tubeless setup cuts off some weight on the wheels, which will allow you to accelerate the bike easier since there is less rotational mass. Going tubeless also allows you to run lower tire pressures without risking pinch flats; this gives you better grip in slippery and loose conditions. And finally, the sealant you put inside the tire will fill small punctures. Larger rips will mean replacing the tire, but you would have to do that even with tubes.
Way too much soap/water. I don't even use that much fitting motorbike tires. Now you just have an excessive amount of water and soap inside your tire.
It doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of benefit to going tubeless over just putting something like Slime sealant in your regular tubes.
johnnybikesalot
Pinch flats and more grip.
Weight. I tried this exact suggestion and found the rotating weight to be monstrous.
ok the video
This is probably the longest and most pointless way of installing a tubeless tyre .
Is there a better way please point it out to me im new to bikes but my road bike tires are always going flat
Good luck replacing that in the mountains.
Gerald Ander Lee
You can still put a tube in it.
Its for weight - weenies
Kristof Vandermeeren No it’s not. You should check your information before posting nonsense.
TUBELESS WITH A TUBE????
There's always a critic...mountain bike tyres inflate fast and without any effort with a track pump as was used in the video ...I, m guessing your a novice or maybe don't even ride a bike .....
You should have kept the background music going.
No, it's annoying and distracting. If anything, reducing the echo would be best.
You have inner tube and heavier tire. But it's tubeless. LOL
Anton Lallinec l think it's a rubber band with a valve. Copy .
Horrible guide never drill through any part on a mountain bike
I'm guessing you're not an engineer or a machinist.
Yeah so when you claim it's time to inflate the rim it was already inflated as you can see in the video, I call bullshit, did you end up using a compressor?
Blake Reichelt We don't have a compressor Blake.
+Blake Reichelt - I see what he's talking about -- at 6:17 it looks like the tire is already inflated.
Great video, I can't wait to try this on my bike.
One question, I hear that a benefit of going tubeless is reducing rotating weight on the wheel - does two cups of sealant actually weight less than an inner tube? Just for argument's sake, if tubed and tubeless wheels weigh the same, are their other benefits to going tubeless?
Do not have to lie! This crap maybe work only for new tire.
Mountain Bike Rider why not use the old inner tube ?????
Has the baby powder influencie to avoid the sealant action ?????
dude, how can you have gray hair and brown beard? Freak of nature? Usually it is way around.....
Raw metal will be corroded with stans sealant !..
Good thing rims are made of anodized aluminum. No corrosion.
It's for weight saving? LMAO!
Might as well remove the brake pads as well because a pair weigh about the same as a tube 😣
Tubeless my ass
does it works with butted rims ??