SLED BOGGING? FAILED REEDS! WHAT TO LOOK FOR
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- čas přidán 4. 12. 2019
- This Arctic Cat M8000 has a bog issue. Seeing worn out reeds in the engine could be the culprit of your Ski-doo, Polaris, Arctic Cat, Yamaha snowmobile lack of power or engine bog. These reeds on this sled are in bad shape. Let's take a look at them and see what causes them to fail and see how they work.
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This is actually super helpful because my sled started bogging at the end of last year and the sled has 4,200 miles on it.
Looking to find a cause of my low end big in a dirt bike and ended up here. Great description of it works, thanks
Love your socket organization there lol and of course duck tape front and center lol !!!! Keep the videos up appreciate it !
I can't help but think a zip tie on the throttle is done right after saying hold my beer and watch this ! 🤣 Good video ty
I bought a 2020 Doo but still love watching anything sled related I like how you can fix your own stuff. Keep it up man!
Thanks! I appreciate it!
even if its not the same sled the knowledge may still translate
These videos are the best. Rippin videos are wicked but these help so much
Glad you appreciate it!
Great job explaining to the uniformed how the reed valves work and why regular maintenance and inspections are important. I especially go over everything preseason so I HOPEFULLY don't have issues come up during the short riding season. Scope is perfect tool for that job!!
Glad you liked it!
@@syxxesI am not
Buying a two stroke ever again
I am going four stroke.
Great video, it’s obvious you have lots of experience and your tutorials are appreciated. Looking forward to a skid video. Would be also interested in a setup video, i.e. ski alignment, shock settings, clutching etc.
There will be a skid video shortly....! Lol
@@syxxes info on that scope of possible
The tutorials are great 👍 keep them up!!
Glad you like 'em!
Smart working proud for you 💖💯💯😎bruhh
Would have liked to here how it ran before new reeds
nice to understand the reeds
Did you get your alpha fixed up for the sled season ? Good video on the reeds !
nicely done 1 of your best,
Glad you liked it!
quite often a reed gets damaged from a backfire.. also once you get a bad reed they tend to backfire more too which makes it worse4
Great tutorial!!
So this is crazy, but went out for the first rip Thanksgiving day and the thing just kept falling on its face. I called it quits and headed home. Finally figured out that a plastic thread protector from a spark plug got dropped in the air box, sucked through the carb, and was bouncing around in the reeds. If I let off the throttle it would fall back out and it would rip for a 1/4 mile, then it would get sucked up against the reeds again and fall on its face. So frustrating, but an easy fix in the end.
Good one! xD
Digging the phazer mod. Vid on that would be most excellent. Thanks.
That's been a pretty requested video. There is a whole playlist of it up on the channel if you haven't seen it!
Should’ve posted this two weeks ago! My sled just went to the shop for this reason, didn’t think of checking them myself, assuming my bogging was clutch related. Could’ve saved a couple bucks
I've seen bog from clutch stuff too! A broken spring will be almost the same thing!
Found out what's wrong with my sled it was just plugged carb but thanks for the advice and ideas on last vid
You bet!
Well need a new track to
This was very helpful
Any idea why one of 2 of my reed valve metal stops have much less of a bend radius to them?
The o'l m8 seems to new some new bars!
They're not THAT bent. Lol
If you say so!
Anyway, nice to see you on the -14 again. Any plans on switching sleds this season?
Would this cause the snowmobile to loose rpms when in deep snow? Mine revvs high if I spin the track on the trail or roads but under load in deep snow my sled will loose rpms and get stuck, my snowmobile also misfires and the engine light comes on because it’s not back shifting gears properly I believe
Does the wiring harness go under or over the crossbar?
Good stuff! Thanks
At work “cleaning the parts room” lol
I bought a 2021 summit sport and it recently starting bogging, bogs in deep snow and once in a while throttle gets stuck and idk what is wrong with it, i don’t know much about skidoos
So could this cause the feeling of hitting the kill switch mid throttle then can clear up under full throttle?
I think it’s my TPS on my 2015 m8000 has a stuttering problem and makes it infinitely harder to ride has power but touchy down low rpm’s has new ecm reeds other thoughts were power valves
Great channel bud
Thanks bud!
Have you done any videos on cleaning and adjusting the power valves? Ctec 2 if ya got it.
I haven't. It's not actually something that is super critical on these newer machines. But I could pull them out in a video.
so... any idea why my sled which is a 2007 500ss ran perfect. no problems all last year.. no problems for the first hour i was out the other day.than all of a sudden i came to a stop and it did not want to idle proper.. kept wanting to die .i brought it home right away... pulled plugs tossed them and put new ones in... seemed fine.went for another ride prob 45 min to an hour than all of a sudden rpm drop. motor had a bit of a shake to it and it started blowing smoke... i went through 1/2 my oil in that time.. it was topped up when i left home only 1/2 when i got it back... i did ride it home but really slow.. and left a smoke trail the whole way :/
I have a 1992 wildcat 700. Does my sled have reeds???
Good thing you have a video on evrything. One sled I’m looking to buy had topend redone I asked what at 3000km he said reeds failed made piston go bad it has all be done at a dealer I wonder can reed fail wreck a piston ? I guess so but could it damage the Zylinder too ? Prob can’t hurt the crank ...
Though unlikely, if I big enough reed flap breaks off, yeah it COULD happen. The most wild thing I've seen is a piece of belt fragments blow and somehow end up in the intake and get sent through the engine, and blow the rod through the bottom of the block!
Wild.
would this also throw a ECU code 18?
I thought you had v force in there ?
Awesome video was thinking about putting aftermarket reeds in my 2018 mountain cat what do you recommend?
Either V-Force or Boyesen. The Boyesen seem to be more favoured amoung the crowed though
scope brand?
Are those in all sleds
Sweet video, like the hat also.
Thanks! They will be available soon!
Fox float rebuild vids plz
I totally would. I just don't have the tools to do it.
I posted a video or my mach1 670 I'm havein a problem with a guy told me its the secondary just want your opinion with out the belt on it revs right up thank you in advance keep up the good work
I left a detailed comment on your video, bud. Hope it gives you a little insight!
@@syxxes thank you I'm gonna bring it in to play it safe before ordering anything
Syxxes Performance are the 08 skidoo 800r a good motor
Is Shawnie running whiskey rubber performance reeds on his unit this year?
He hasn't even gotten his unit this year yet xD
Does that motor have the suzuki 800 ho? because I bought mine last year (used with 3100 mi) and it ran good for about 200 miles then would constantly bog and not go over 5 grand
Yeah. Some motor. I would say it's time to check your reeds out.
My sled seems to load up. Carbs have been cleaned. After idling or slowing down in the ditch it doesn’t have good power until u get going for a little bit. Also seems worse when the sleds on its side when carving almost no power. Any ideas?
Check the jetting and make sure it's right for the altitude. Or, clutching issues maybe.
How many miles do you get when they start going bad typically?
I've seen them as low as 1600miles. This one got to 4000 though
So where is the fail part off of reed pedal??? Are you just going to leave all that material in the motor, ring grooves, crankshaft bearings, crank seals ect.
Morning Matt, 2008 Dragon 700, low mile, under 1200, has had a Boondocker turbo on her since new, was running just fine, then on the mountain, started bogging, and will shut itself off, had to get towed off the mountain. My Buddy is Fed up, want's to just unload it. On a Polaris 700 from 08, 1. Reeds, 2. tps 3. crank seals, In any event repairable i your opinion? thanks!
Probably the last thing you want to hear is that, The Dragoon is generally considered amoung the community as one of the worst sleds ever made. Unfortunately, I have never heard anyone say a good thing about a dragon. I've never owned one but the community seems to say one thing: junk.
Good luck with it!
@@syxxes totally fine, AND yes to 800 dragons, but I'd the 700 is just as bad then he is stuck with it! Thanks for your honest opinion! It confirms everything!
Whats torque on both them clutch bolts?
51ft/lb for the drive. I don't remember the driven. It's nice and snug with blue lock-tight.
This is excellent. Thanks.
You bet, man!
I love watching your videos, ik you have 2016 M8 which is exactly what I have and your 4 yeat review is why I bought it. I am having issues with ECU code 16 and bogs down alot, is this the fix? I don't have the space or tools to do this myself just yet as I am 16 but wanna make sure Ik what it is before I take it into the shop so I know what needs to be done and don't end up getting charged for something it didn't need. I do alot of the work myself and cleaned power valves recently but it didn't do too much. Thanks!
Hey would bad reeds foul plugs?
Would that cause low speed bogging on a crossfire 800 ho? Usually stops bogging after I pump the throttle a bit and am running over 5k rpm, and then seems to run fine with lots of power. Always just a start moving bog.
Did you figure it out?
@@adamcarlsson9931 Ended up doing a compression test and found one piston was only running 50 percent. Tore it apart and it had been melted and badly scarred. Don't know why yet, but obviously some major mechanical failure. Still can't rule out bad crank seals. Maybe something in the crankcase broke and went up into the piston though. I did however observe extreme heated spark plugs.....very white on the ends.
@@rydstallion75 although I’m not a expert, to my knowledge white spark plugs mean it wasn’t getting enough mix oil.
@@feidhlimmarion1499 Interesting, I'll look into that.
What happened to the alpha one?
random 24 it was a demo
Hey man, is it possible to install them upside down or could they go in either way?
These ones are not directional.
@@syxxes how do i tell if mine are or not? It's an 99 xc 500
@@gala83filmstaylorg7 you just have to look at them and see if they are symmetrical or not
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My 12 f800 has oil in the air box is that normal?
Yea pretty normal. You can do the check-valves but I recommend wiping out the oil and going riding.👌
I was wondering also thank keep it up
Syxxes Performance thanks for the reply
Nigel riding this year?
Nigel disappeared
Would these reeds be in an 94 carberated engine?
Yes, as long as it's not a Rotax Engine. Some Rotax engines of that era use rotary vavles.
@@syxxes I’m sorry but I am not sure what the difference is or how I would identify what type of engine I have if it helps I have a 94 Polaris Indy sport sks
@@IsaacN588 that'll be a reed valve
@@syxxes alright Thankyou, and where might these reeds be located cause I have a really bad backfiring issue and power loss
I don't have a sled but I have a 2 stroke waverunner. I rebuilt the carbs and did notice a few reed pedals lifted up so I flipped them over. My question is will a bad reed make the top end feel flat. It does have some bog if Idle for a bit and punch it but it feels like there is no power after 3/4 throttle.
Bad reeds will cause that issue for sure. Depending on how bad they are it might not idle well, or it feels like its governed past a certain point on the throttle
@@syxxes it did both. I tuned it so the bog was not as bad but it felt just like u said governed. It was a brand new top end and both carbs were rebuilt. I just couldn't get it to tune right last year so I stoppedridingit. I'm going to pull the reeds out when I get home amd check them out. Thanks for your time amd quick reply
@@jeffbryner5355 good luck!
I remember being a cat guy dealing with clutching and reed issues seems like a lot of maintenance videos on the cats. Fun breed high cost of longISH term ownership.
Yeah, she has some miles on 'er. Funny how everything kinda starts to go at once. lol
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Collab with cboystv
Seems like the thing to do!
@@syxxes ostacruiser man
Its been an arctic cat problem for long time ...cheap part ...there are many other sleds that do not have premature wear of reeds !
Yeah, I've been through a few on a number of different sleds.