ASR 1 Cockpit Review Part 2 "The Setup"
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- Part 2 of the two part review series on the ASR 1 Cockpit Review "The Setup"
Intro: 0:00
Mounting Seat: 0:47
Mounting DD Wheelbase: 8:01
Mounting Pedals: 13:07
Mounting Shifter: 16:49
Driving 21:26
Final Thoughts: 25:39
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FIRST! :D
Small but importante note here, 397$ USD or 449$ CAD shipping and duties covered for all North American customers! We want to thank Barry for dedicating quality time for a deep dive testing with our newest entry-level cockpit, the ASR 1. It's definitely not built for top tier SimRacing equipement like the Simucube wheelbase, but as SRG demonstrates, it can handle pretty much anything you throw at it. We'll be around on the comment section if you guys have any questions that relate to what we do!
Any idea when you guys will have the ASR1 and some medium seat options back in stock?
@@RX120D We have 400 seats arriving mid-April! :D
@@advancedsimracing Ugh, sounds like the mid-February shipment has been pushed back then? Last I heard from you guys the word was mid-Feb.
@@RX120D *Insert broad comment about the global supply chain*
Yeah... pushed-back indeed. Sorry about the situation! Racing seats for simulation are a hot commodity.
@@advancedsimracing Just ordered one of these for $349 shipped. Unbelievable value, there is no comparable product. Thanks!
i am surprised there is still no CSL DD video on this channel, can't wait for your thoughts Barry
What u expect? Only 8nm buy dd1
@@izhangt3787 omg...
No surprise, you should learn some of these vids 😉
It's because Fanatec didn't want to pay his "production" fee.
I had the same issue with my seat and shifter bar...I ended up actually just mounting the bar out on the sides of the wheel tower rather than straight up to it. Now I have more room than I'll ever need for a big ass seat and the shifter is still within reach without strain :)
At the end of the video he says it's $397 plus shipping, but if you live in North America shipping is free on all their products. And tax free as well if you're ordering from the United States. I've ordered a couple of times from them and there's never been any tax or shipping cost. Pretty unbeatable, out of the box and ready to go setup for $397 all-in if you ask me. You can get a rough equivalent for a little bit cheaper if you order the profiles yourself, but you won't get a pedal tray and wheel mount of that quality. Overall, if it's not rigid enough for you, you can add some stabilizing brackets to the wheel uprights for not too much extra money.
Are you sure it's really free shipping? I just ordered an ASR1 cockpit from Advanced Sim Racing and they charged me a separate fee of $13.10 on top of the $467.99 I paid for the ASR1 rig. So this tells me that it is not truly free, and I live in the United States too
@@carlp214 my guess is it's a handling fee for the warehouse, which if we're being technical, is part of the whole shipping process
@@carlp214 I actually did ask them. But no business will make shipping truly free, the cost of shipping is offset in the price of the product being sold in these "free shipping" situations and any other added fees most likely are warehouse related. I'm guessing you didn't take any business related classes, otherwise you would have known that too
@@carlp214 they showed me a screenshot of the charge and said it was the only charge in their system. Then they asked me what the charge identifiers were for both charges I saw, and both are listed as SP ADVANCED SR DORVAL QC CAN 🤷♂️
@@Khans0120 Still a mystery to this day? Did you manage to investigate the charge with your credit card provider?
I have little interest in racing, but I'm sort of curious about your set ups. Your set up is a straight up work of art. Such an amazing set up. Thanks so much for sharing this. You explain it so well for people who don't quite understand what they're seeing!
Just ordered an ASR3 and they shipped it out within 24 hours lol, amazing.
How are you liking it, if you don't mind me asking?
is good ?
@@OREvilleRed hey it's amazing and very much worth the price, but I do wish I had saved up another 200 and bought the ASR 4 just for the added strength and pedal adjustability (this depends on profile depth)
Earned my sub, you can’t believe how helpful putting something like this together for a newb like me is. Thank you🎉
I bought this with the shifter arm but no support, once I find the height I want I am gonna purchase a support at the right size that fits under the shifter arm so I don't have that post sticking out. I suppose you could cut the one it comes with as well!
100k nearly there!
Thanks for the video! Great insights on what to expect and some good tips for set up. Any input on whether it is best to have a stand alone monitor stand vs. the integrated ones? I would think any flex/wobble in the rig might vibrate the monitor on the integrated ones.
do you think the asr3 will have less wheel flex than the asr1? I believe the only difference is the bottom extrusion is slightly beefier. Im currently using the 8nm csl dd
Advanced Sim Racing : ASR1 is designed for wheels 0-5 Nm
Barry : Lets slap on the Simucube 2 Sport (17 Nm) 🤣
Man ASR loves to oversell their higher end products, but this is good proof even a basic t-slot cockpit design can withstand a whole lot more.
If you flip the pedal tray to the intended position (cutout towards the seat) it will lessen the flex you are seeing in the plate.
That guy knows!
@@advancedsimracing Can't wait for my ASR3 to get here!!!!
@@brandonmalo2066 How are you liking it, if you don't mind me asking?
@@OREvilleRed It's amazing, went together very easy. All pieces perfectly cut and all the hardware you could want. Rig is solid and has all the adjustability one could desire. Shipping was fast and their customer service is second to none. Put it all together @Advanced SimRacing is the best choice hands down for North America's. When you factor in shipping and conversion fees ASR is the best price. I spent months pricing out all the different chassis from many different vendors.
Good to hear, I ordered mine last night! And yeah, the shipping really did it for me. I was looking at a cheaper rig and over $300 in shipping but with ASR I was able to use that $300 in a better quality rig and not transit money.
I sim drift a lot and I was wondering where do I put my shifter and handbrake with the mounts
i love the fact that this guy speak in inches AND cm/mm. More Americans should learn both once. Its not that hard!
I bolted the Fanatec CSL DD up to this ASR1 cockpit with a side mount and I have not noticed any flex at all when using it at its rated power of 8Nm. However, I do have the supported shifter arm bolted up as well so that may be helping a little with keeping flex at minimum
I just got mine today, mine didn't come with a face plate, I only the have side mount. Is that how the CSL DD should be, or did yours come with a face plate aswell.
@Beast Nicholls mine came with the side mount and the CSL DD spacers only. If you have not mounted the CSL DD yet, use four M6 16mm (with 1.0 thread spacing which matches the CSL DD anchors) bolts with it since each side mount is 6mm thick. I used 4 M8 spacers as well since the kit has so many, on the outside of the side mount to give the bolts a better anchor point since the side mount holes are a tad too large for them to anchor securely. My CSL DD certainly is very secure on there doing this
If I want to keep the wheel as low as possible is the side or top mount better for the csl dd?
@@SpartanA31xx the side mount is better since it will allow you to angle the DD upwards slightly if needed for comfort like in a real car.
@@Khans0120 Awesome makes sense. I have to buy a mount for that correct?
Nice review. It'd be nice to see how this compares to the 6-Sigma Slim.
Looks to me like the shift/handbrake mounting arm inherently increases the rigidity of the upright(s). Obviously higher = more stiffness.
not sure if this might help anyone but the extra attachment for shifter /handbrake was mounted slightly wrong the verticle part near his elbow is supposed to be mounted on the outside of the rig not ontop and the horizontal part that the sequential shifter is on is also supposed to be mounted to the outside of the tall verticle piece that leads to the wheel this was probably super confusing but if you look at the picture on the website for the attachment is will explain beter....only reason i mention it is so people will still consider this option when i saw what an inconvience it was i was going to be to mount a shifter i was going to opt for a beter model but it has the same base width thats when i noticed the attachment was mounted slightly diffrent then intended and if mounted corectly it would give the extra clearence nessary to enjoy als they have shifter handbrake and mouse pad attachment that go on that attachment
That extra room may work better for some but his setup is an option to try. The other thing improvised on this video is the pedal plate is reversed, the folded edge is at the front of the rig on the website
so even tho the asr1 was not meant to handle dd base wheels, it still handled it nicely?
I have their AS4 with dbox motion and it is great!
Thanks for the comment Chris!
Sweet!
Just thought I'd say that 4:30 on just made mounting my new seat on my rig 100x easier than it would have been had I gone in blind. Thanks!
Barry is the dad we all wish we had
At the time of writing this, the ASR 1 is actually only $350 with free shipping in North America. What a deal.
If I could buy this, or the NLR GTTrack for about the same money, which would you recommend? I know the GTtrack is supposedly a higher end product but this seems more sturdy and its 2 years newer and made in North America
I'd definitely get this. I have a Next Level F-GT, which uses very similar materials/design to all their other products. It's okay, but definitely feels cheap and there is lots of flex. The GTTrack is just their wheel stand with a seat added on. The seat is basically just a low quality "gaming chair" bolted to a metal bracket. I think it's overpriced for what it is.
@@dlugsch I settled on a Sim Labs GT1 for about the same money shipped from puresims. Thanks for the input though!
@@Shakshuka69 great choice! ASR and Sim Lab seems to be about the same quality
@@dlugsch Thanks! Check out Rigmetal if you want a US made 8020 rig for way less money. Would have gone with them if they had stock.
I am glad to hear you bought the 8020 instead of the GTtrack. I had a used one for a while, the chair is garbage, looks fancy with the seatbelt, but it’s flimsy with not much support. The adjustment is definitely not as flexible as any aluminum profile rig.
I wonder if there would be flex in the pedal tray if it was installed correctly?
care to elaborate on that statement? seems to be installed the exact same as the images on the manufacturers website...
@@sicphuker It's installed facing the wrong direction, needs to be turned 180 degrees.
i definitely want to see the pedal tray moved to the correct position. i think the folded lip would help with the flex
I had to double check the site and he def has it backwards :O
While it certainly might not fully eliminate the flex caused by maximum pressured applied on such a heavy duty pedal set (which is not the goal of the ASR 1 either), it will help for sure! It's made be reinforced at the front end with the bent steel shape.
Anyone have a simucube 2 pro on their as1 ? If so how is it ?
I have a VRS DFP on the ASR1, and it does have some serious flex at really high loads. BUT. It is usually not noticeable, and really fun. I think its slightly less than "sufficient", planning on purchasing more aluminum or hardware to make the rig more stable.
The pedal tray is backwards
is the ASR 1 sturdy enough to handle a simagic Alpha mini?
In the video he mounted a Simucube 2 which outputs 17nm which is more than the simagic Alpha mini (10nm) so it should be okay. You will still see some flex but less than what Barry shows in the video.
Sure is!
@@advancedsimracing on the website it says ASR 1 is recommended for 0-5NM, ASR 3 for 5-10NM, I assume that you mean the ASR 1 can handle better than it promotes? ASR1 is good enough for the CSL DD in your opinion?
@@sixx1095 well you yourself saw how it handled a wheel base with over twice the strength of a CSL DD. But yes usually these rigs are designed to withstand a bit more than the recommended use. The ASR 3 isn't much more expensive and you can get a rig that is more future proof than the ASR 1 in case you ever upgrade your wheel base.
@@DavidGarcia-oi5nt I do see it, it's surprisingly sturdy honestly, super impressive.
Nice cockpits shame they dont ship internationally
Hi, please, what is the brand of the shifter that you are using on the video please ?
he says the brand in the video...17:42
@@BadWallaby thanks
@@djwillx974 No Problem :)
Is Trak Racer junk ?
No, most of their products are pretty good. They've been having some issues with missing bolts on their profile rigs but I hear that's been ironed out.
This rig seems like a budget king to me. Unless you just have the cash for a P1X and it doesn't hurt your wallet, why buy anything else?
For me the reson you buy a 8020 rig is becuse that will be your last rig. You will never need more. But that pedal flex is not okay, compared to some competion. GT omega had the same problem
Hey
Hi!
I had ASR6 but moved to GT1 (a lighter rig). ASR uses very good quality channels, almost as good as Simlab. But the primary advantage of Simlab is the fasteners. Miles better than ASR in terms of quality fit and finishing. Simlab has a very tight tolerance level, which makes their products still top choice for any sim rig. Even the GT1-EVo can handle any DD very well, zero flex. The only advantage ASR has is the price. But if anyone can get a Simlab rig on black friday, no better deal than that.
ASR uses the spring ball T-nuts, just like Sim Lab. They also use very similar, channel-locking corner brackets...You just moved from a P1-X level rig, to a much smaller rig in the GT1. Why? By the way, I have a GT-1 Evo from Sim-lab. They're great. But I'd rather have an ASR6.
Lol no dude just no, go watch Barry's GT1-EVOs review video to see how much flex there is in the uprights when he uses the Shifter. Also you gotta factor in the absolute butt rape that is Sim-Labs shipping, which is free with ASR.
@@DavidGarcia-oi5nt Simlab shipping is expensive to US, I agree. GT1 Evo has a DD mount that is rock solid for a DD wheel, not sure what you are talking about.
@@DavidGarcia-oi5nt Sim labs shipping free to North America through Grid Engineering now
Which fasteners? Part number please. Thanks
Sim Lab still the Best.
Overrated, ASR is as good if not better than SimLab, their rigs have their owns drawbacks. The ASR 3 is the one that competes with the GT1 Evo, and it hasn't been reviewed on this channel yet. Their ASR6 performed as well as the P1. ASR is a no-brainer for anyone in North America not wanting to pay exorbitant shipping/duties fees on a rig without sacrificing quality. The ASR1 is also not advertised as a DD wheel, so the top-of-the-line equipment he's using in his review is not what's recommended to be used with the product to begin with, and it still handled it very well for the price point of the rig.
We love Sim-Lab, but we feel very comfortable in debating that point ;)
This is the most ridiculous pedal set EVER.
So over engineered, so huge, and plus totally unrealistic to me…(that moving heel plate…wtf)
I mean, why using this on an entry level rig?
The only problem is that Simlabs gt1 is still cheaper and better :/
Enough of your nonsense. The GT1 Evo is $50 USD more expensive than this rig, and the GT1 Evo's price does not include shipping and duties . The appropriate product to compare it with is the ASR3, which hasn't been reviewed on this channel. The GT1 Evo also has flex when using a DD wheel, so your statement is false on all accounts.
@@Maverick09925 Most people including me who use a GT1-EVO can confirm that it has absolutely zero flex, even with a Simucube Ultimate with 50% FFB. Simlab is very very high quality. ASR is very good but still not at Simlab level. For the price ASR isnt bad.
By the time you include shipping to where I am (Canada), its nearly double the price of this cockpit for me...
@@alahad4723 SRGs review of the GT One begs to differ, the plate was bending under the load of the mounted DD. In any case, I don't get how you can come to the conclusion that ASR is inferior to Sim Labs unless you've tried an ASR rig. Both the ASR3 and the GT One are built with almost identical pieces. You've just got a bias (along with most people) towards Sim Labs due to them marketing their stuff via streamers on twitch/youtube who promote the hell out of the brand.
@@alahad4723 No flex, really?
czcams.com/video/KHdBvBNMoB4/video.html
Lost me at the glove wearing
1000 Dollars for 16 Alu pipes. 🤣
397$ USD actually, shipped to your door anywhere in North America. The only reason we can offer it at this price is because we buy extremely large volumes of Aluminum from a U.S. mill that is cut here in Montreal, Canada. We have a 1000$ option however (ASR 6), if that's what you are looking to invest in your SimRacing chassis... :D
Lol mate, show me where this is being sold for $1000? Also these aren't pipes whatsoever, they're aluminum extrusion profiles and the best rigs are made out of them.