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  • čas přidán 29. 08. 2022
  • Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! This time we take a look at the newest intrusion tool for computers all provided by an anti-cheat for an incredibly popular game known as Genshin Impact. How? Let's find out! Thanks for watching!
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  • @SomeOrdinaryGamers
    @SomeOrdinaryGamers  Před rokem +248

    Use code "SOG" at www.gfuel.com
    Check out the Newest Podcast episode: czcams.com/video/C8GPK424HFQ/video.html

  • @Logo1770
    @Logo1770 Před rokem +3077

    At this point I’m convinced Muta doesn’t even actually have a pc, he’s just running a VM on a Samsung smart fridge

    • @snowwhitever2336
      @snowwhitever2336 Před rokem +49

      @@Instabruh.User.. nope

    • @vitaleriof
      @vitaleriof Před rokem +74

      He defenitly seems like the guy to own a samsung smart fridge
      Also holy shit every commet under yours so far was a bot

    • @snowwhitever2336
      @snowwhitever2336 Před rokem +13

      @@vitaleriof bot bot bot bot bot bot bot

    • @LoafofSourdough
      @LoafofSourdough Před rokem +19

      @@vitaleriof ngl, I want to believe that you're also a bot replying to the bots, I believe it partly because of your name, but mostly because the bot above you also has patrick pfp

    • @aleanddragonITA
      @aleanddragonITA Před rokem +15

      The truth is that we are all part of a Matrix in Muta's Virtual Macchine

  • @luispinzon1282
    @luispinzon1282 Před rokem +1664

    Muta saying he's too paranoid and here i am realizing that his work REQUIRES HIM to be paranoid otherwise he wouldn't be able to thrive in his line of business.
    so the lesson here is to be paranoid.

    • @SpringDavid
      @SpringDavid Před rokem +101

      Be SOME paranoid, not too much, not too little

    • @Boomslayer19
      @Boomslayer19 Před rokem +74

      When it comes to internet security better over prepared then under prepared
      Paranoia is a good thing when it comes to security

    • @theorangegremlin334
      @theorangegremlin334 Před rokem +1

      I am the paranoia Barry

    • @zerrierslizer1
      @zerrierslizer1 Před rokem

      Paranoia can save you life and everything you own. *but it can also quickly get you killed or ruin your life* so all in all, be careful.

    • @blvckskull7954
      @blvckskull7954 Před rokem

      Paranoid Andy himself

  • @AshnSilvercorp
    @AshnSilvercorp Před rokem +3503

    "Anticheat is a security measure"
    *hackers exploit anticheat to compromise entire system*
    Companies: *surprised Pikachu face

    • @fox2code
      @fox2code Před rokem +138

      Weirdly it looks like the AntiCheat driver could actually used to make cheats really easily.
      Aka. "I used the AntiCheat to destroy the AntiCheat"

    • @Greg_Stache
      @Greg_Stache Před rokem +4

      Best comment! Lol so true.

    • @ZZ-pq6ht
      @ZZ-pq6ht Před rokem +34

      @@fox2code It would be ironic if a cheat used the anticheat to load the cheats.

    • @AshnSilvercorp
      @AshnSilvercorp Před rokem +37

      @@ZZ-pq6ht well... it's client-side software. If you can bork it, it can lie to the server it's working properly. It's a silly thing to try to put trust on the host system to report it's clean...

    • @blindsniper35
      @blindsniper35 Před rokem +15

      @@fox2code that's what I was thinking. from the bit of extra information he gave it sounds like this driver would be perfect to build a cheat around. You've got your kernal level memory editing and more, it's signed and legitimate piece of software.
      I wouldn't be surprised if you saw this being used as part of a commercial hack for other games. I'm going to have to look into this more because this could be hilariously bad for other anti-cheat systems.

  • @vicca4671
    @vicca4671 Před rokem +581

    Worst of all is: Whoever wants to cheat their gacha pulls can just play a self-hosted instance and be happy about it, since it's mostly single-player and whatnot. They could use any less intrusive anti-cheat if it's just to put their minds at ease.

    • @doragonmeido
      @doragonmeido Před rokem +16

      where did that grass cutting machine go?

    • @QuickDev
      @QuickDev Před rokem +2

      Its finally here

    • @figloalds
      @figloalds Před rokem +95

      The anti-cheat is not to protect the gacha, the gacha is server side for it to be compromised the entire server-side structure potentially needs to be compromised too.
      The anti-cheat is there only to prevent the user from modifying the client code, with client code modification it is possible to have infinite energy and 0 cooldown, teleport directly to chests and open them, and I don't think much else aside from that, most of the game data is server-authoritative.

    • @figloalds
      @figloalds Před rokem +46

      Also bypassing mhyprot2 is not hard, the game doesn't even seem to give a fuck if its running or not

    • @doragonmeido
      @doragonmeido Před rokem +8

      ​@@figloalds ik what you mean,
      you can get it playing under wine after bypassing

  • @Snotnarok
    @Snotnarok Před rokem +645

    I love when gamers say "You're too paranoid" when defending corporations.
    That's how we got here with garbage DRM, microtransactions, etc.
    People mocked paying $2.50 for horse armor in Oblivion years ago. Now?
    People are happy to pay $10-20 for a skin in a FPS where you can't even see yourself. Companies hiring people who know how to manipulate addictive tendencies and instead of blaming the corporation for all that they blame people with gambling problems
    Denuvo is now muscling it's way onto Switch apparently because "Oh it's not that bad" was said for years when it was just on PC. The DRM that eats up a chunk of your PCs performance- that companies denied and it's been consistently shown that when removed performance goes up by a measurable amount. And now it might be put on some games on the Switch- as if it didn't struggle with some games enough
    Companies keep lying to us and people keep defending them or saying it's not so bad because, for some reason, they'll listen to a corporation who's sole goal is money instead of people who have seen this happen before or actually know what they're doing.
    And here we go "it's for security" ...yeah, THEIR security, not yours.

    • @rickyaguilar7572
      @rickyaguilar7572 Před rokem +2

      Ehy does this sound like Madden... lol

    • @bullshitchannel5247
      @bullshitchannel5247 Před rokem +6

      as long as they can get profit who cares about what people say if people stopped playing and numbers starts going down they might give two or three things for free and after noticing that their games started dying they will start taking action but you know i know and also the companies know that people will not stop playing nor spending

    • @crossbolt27salt88
      @crossbolt27salt88 Před rokem +9

      YOUR SO RIGHT ABOUT FIRST PERSON SKINS. I understand spending money on skins if you can actually see them, but in the games i play like apex and cod you cant. Even in games where you see them you barely focus on it while playing. I have not spent any money in any of the games I play at all. Im fine with the free stuff and I take advantage of using prime for some of the free stuff

    • @medivh1035
      @medivh1035 Před rokem

      Well, Russia and usa will trade nukes soon. It will be great to wipe this world clean

    • @Snotnarok
      @Snotnarok Před rokem +19

      @@crossbolt27salt88 No idea, I know people get mocked by having default skins in games. "You're poor!" or you the defenders say "You gotta support the game somehow"
      Then give me something to spend money on that matters.
      This seems to be a trend a cross a few things since my brother at his job gets asked frequently "Why don't you have an iphone".
      And it's like, what do I, or you for that matter, need the latest iPhone for? You browse instagram & facebook, you don't need a $1,000 phone for that.
      So not only are companies a problem with this but people push FOMO a lot too

  • @Gijsje.
    @Gijsje. Před rokem +1717

    Lol, my mind read the title as Muta being wrong. So I clicked faster than my brain processing the actual title. Staying because.. well.. it's Muta. I don't even care about half the things he talks about. His rants just fill a very specific void in my life.

  • @Matthew-.-
    @Matthew-.- Před rokem +748

    I wouldn't say virtualization is foolproof. There's been plenty of times where malicious code broke out of containers before including with KVM.

    • @sasinmo
      @sasinmo Před rokem +59

      5:20

    • @videogamerNattie98
      @videogamerNattie98 Před rokem +111

      The reason its incredibly solid is because most viruses work on only the computer they landed on which means most of the time the extra layer of defense prevents it from getting into your main PC. Also a VM nets you ALOT of tools that can let you clean wipe it in a matter of seconds since its a separate instance you have full control over so besides the extra layer you also have more options to deal with a virus in a VM.

    • @eiboeck88
      @eiboeck88 Před rokem +80

      @@videogamerNattie98 and plus it has to be a very special virus to break out of a windows vm and infect a linux host system but even if you run linux you have to be careful what you run

    • @videogamerNattie98
      @videogamerNattie98 Před rokem +55

      @@eiboeck88 The point is while no defense is gonna be perfect unless the thing your dealing with is specialized in taking on your exact rig your not defenseless.

    • @Canzary
      @Canzary Před rokem +7

      You could call these exceptions to the rule.

  • @OmnipotentSaiyan
    @OmnipotentSaiyan Před rokem +265

    I downloaded Valorant and the anti-cheat was always active even when the game wasn't running.
    I felt like I was being compromised, so I erased it.

    • @posaiduck1131
      @posaiduck1131 Před rokem +91

      According to some reddit posts, uninstalling the game does not uninstall the anti-cheat by default.

    • @Nai_101
      @Nai_101 Před rokem +55

      @@posaiduck1131 Can confirm this is true

    • @William-Morey-Baker
      @William-Morey-Baker Před rokem

      @@posaiduck1131 that shit should be illegal...

    • @twoworldwars4633
      @twoworldwars4633 Před rokem +33

      @@posaiduck1131 true. If you want to uninstall the anti cheat, head to Control Panel, uninstall programs, and it should be labeled as ‘Riot Vanguard.’

    • @knection1986
      @knection1986 Před rokem +3

      @@posaiduck1131 Yup I just killed punkbusters off my system and it was installed last year. I have no idea what game I even used that utitlized it because I play mostly single player games.

  • @Harmonic_shift
    @Harmonic_shift Před rokem +201

    I always appreciate someone who provides their informed and honest takeaway.
    Can tell you're not deceptive and don't go outside your depth of knowledge.
    it's why I enjoy your commentary.

  • @l3thal619
    @l3thal619 Před rokem +635

    If people only knew that the driver from their razer mouse could potentially be more of a threat than anything else.

  • @jacksoncremean1664
    @jacksoncremean1664 Před rokem +16

    To be honest it's inevitable that something like this would happen
    having anything run as root creates a massive attack surface, it's inevitable that someone finds a bug in the anti cheat to exploit.

  • @P-C-Principle
    @P-C-Principle Před rokem +8

    I just started on my cyber security classes and it’s cool to be able to understand what muta is talking about

  • @user-df4kf6fg7h
    @user-df4kf6fg7h Před rokem +22

    *Looks for a video to listen to, while running the Genshin dailies*
    The video:

  • @figloalds
    @figloalds Před rokem +126

    This a good topic. I am an avid Genshin Impact player, but I'm also very careful with everything that I execute on my computer. Almost all software I install come from Steam, Microsoft or Adobe.

    • @SpeedKing..
      @SpeedKing.. Před rokem +33

      Please get in the car sir, hands behind your back

    • @SHAdow98V
      @SHAdow98V Před rokem +10

      Same,i haven't downloaded anything off of the internet in like years,all i download and install on my PC is from "trusted" sources such as Steam,Epic and so on,even Genshin i downloaded form Epic not off of the internet tho that's a whole different thing since oyu download the installer first,point being i too stay away from untrusted sources and while i've only had to deal with ransomeware once in the past(was so dumb i could get out of it and unlock everything alone so it was a pathetic attempt on their side) i still take precautions cuz hey you can never be too safe imo.

    • @HedgClan
      @HedgClan Před rokem +2

      I’m a little more careless
      Sure I google to see if the site I’m downloading from is safe or not (it took me a while to see if vimm’s lair is safe, because it looked suspicious at the time, but after a while I got used to the looks of a site from the 90’s and it’s my go to rom site) and I check the url to see if my connection is secure so what I’m downloading is actually from the website, but still sometimes I don’t even research.

    • @stargazing209
      @stargazing209 Před rokem +3

      Don't torture yourself, play anything else but that

    • @whyareyouhere6274
      @whyareyouhere6274 Před rokem

      Just a question, but how grindy do you think genshin is? I heard it's a nightmare

  • @Endless_Nights2
    @Endless_Nights2 Před rokem +32

    It's always a good time when I catch Mutahar early.

  • @sykotes
    @sykotes Před rokem +54

    i find it interesting that these games all have these kernel level anti cheats that run completely separate from the game checking that nothing is modifying any parts of the game or packets or whatever mean while servers in minecraft like minemen club run with completely server side anti cheats that are so good at picking up anything from mild movement modifications to slight inconsistencies in clicks meaning it is extremely difficult to bypass while no ac is actually present on your computer

    • @AkkoGaming
      @AkkoGaming Před rokem +14

      And then there's hypixel "watchdog" that teleports you if you dare to jump onto a carpet

    • @sykotes
      @sykotes Před rokem +7

      @@AkkoGaming watchdog is aids i swear people lag back less when hacking on hypixel compared to playing legit

    • @KingButcher
      @KingButcher Před rokem +1

      This is a result of players self hosting their servers + the server code/archictecture being open through things like forge/paper; Something genshin impact can't do if they want to make any sort of profit as a company

  • @john_toss
    @john_toss Před rokem +16

    If only youtube comments section were “anti bot”. I’m tired of the spam comments

    • @Matt-md5yt
      @Matt-md5yt Před rokem +2

      I know what you mean. just annoying crap as usual in CZcams HQ

  • @TheG_Boy
    @TheG_Boy Před rokem +26

    this dude is really tech savy i dont understand half the things he says but it sounds important

  • @KarimBilal1
    @KarimBilal1 Před rokem +22

    Can you talk about the drama going on in the warzone scene about how ACTIVISION seems to be ALLOWING CERTAIN PEOPLE (streamers) TO CHEAT intentionally.

  • @voidomega4211
    @voidomega4211 Před rokem +10

    Love how you specify stuff it really helps me figure out stuff when watching your videos more

  • @amfrog
    @amfrog Před rokem +3

    Well that was very informative, and a wee bit scary.
    I will definitely check thrice.
    Thank you for your hard work, Muta.

  • @tek1645
    @tek1645 Před rokem

    Man I just love watching your videos on random topics, from tech to games to etc

  • @LNDFHACKER
    @LNDFHACKER Před rokem +70

    If i understood correctly. If a driver is signed, windows will give kernel level permission WITHOUT PROMPTING THE USER. Is there a reason for this to be the way it is? I dont think its ok to give permission to something even if it is signed and not malicious if the user doesnt want to, after all it is the user's computer so the user sould hace the choice.

    • @jacksoncremean1664
      @jacksoncremean1664 Před rokem +7

      that's just how drivers work
      it needs root access in order to work

    • @IDKWtsIt2U
      @IDKWtsIt2U Před rokem +10

      There's no GOOD reason, that's why it's seemingly universally disliked.
      There's a whole rabbit hole regarding game companies collecting user data and interactions for AI research - But that doesn't even cover an explanation for this level of access, since most game companies collect user data without needing anything outside of the game engine itself, let alone system drivers or kernel drivers.
      It really boggles the mind how many software companies think they own your hardware though.

    • @LNDFHACKER
      @LNDFHACKER Před rokem

      @@alexandergreene461 windows could offer a "remember for this driver" checkbox.

    • @syahrezank
      @syahrezank Před rokem

      Because it costs a ton already to buy a simple signature from microsoft defender

    • @clocked0
      @clocked0 Před rokem

      @@LNDFHACKER How would you handle giving permission to mouse drivers in one of those pop up menus without a usable mouse (Driver inactive until you give it permission to run)
      With a keyboard? Requires one too.

  • @daviddesrosiers1946
    @daviddesrosiers1946 Před rokem +134

    Kernel level anti-cheat is crap. It's universally bad.

    • @elecbaguette
      @elecbaguette Před rokem

      wow really?

    • @Boomslayer19
      @Boomslayer19 Před rokem +18

      Pretty much giving any program that power is dangerous

    • @daviddesrosiers1946
      @daviddesrosiers1946 Před rokem +5

      @@Boomslayer19 Exactly why I don't do it. At best it makes the rig run like crap. At worst, it's an unspeakable vulnerability.

  • @reverendstumpy9676
    @reverendstumpy9676 Před rokem +4

    Muta got some bounce to that one section of hair. Be the bounce hair, out there for the world & riding the waves.

  • @ChungusTheLarge
    @ChungusTheLarge Před rokem +1

    Modern OSes need a configurable sentinel. Something that can (fairly) easily setup event listeners and take action based on event log history. As soon as the history diverges, alert user and/or end process

  • @alt666
    @alt666 Před rokem +31

    once again im happy i love single player / offline games

    • @EnaTenkiyoGamer
      @EnaTenkiyoGamer Před rokem +2

      same

    • @freecomkcf
      @freecomkcf Před rokem +1

      not like you're safe there either, just replace anti-cheat with anti-piracy

    • @alt666
      @alt666 Před rokem

      @@freecomkcf I just won't play new games then. It's not like anything actually good has been released in the past 3 years.

    • @Khronik_
      @Khronik_ Před rokem

      @@alt666 u rite.

  • @Nixxee
    @Nixxee Před rokem +3

    I will never get sick of the ".. but Muta..." moments

  • @mossy229
    @mossy229 Před rokem +58

    Catching sog early is always a great treat!

    • @SLZeroArrow
      @SLZeroArrow Před rokem +4

      @YeaMan You rarely post twice, huh...

    • @EnaTenkiyoGamer
      @EnaTenkiyoGamer Před rokem

      ​@@SLZeroArrow I would just report them. Deleting their comments myself would count as feeding them.

  • @WrathOfNolla
    @WrathOfNolla Před rokem +1

    Muta going full Bill Murray in "Kingpin" with the hair vibes today

  • @sparkyfolf9487
    @sparkyfolf9487 Před rokem +1

    There's also a thing that happened with VRchat where within seconds after EAC was added hackers already bypassed the anti-cheat, and are yet again using noclip and crashing users.

  • @Randelia
    @Randelia Před rokem +9

    Speak the truth Brother! So tired of people downplaying kernel level access.

  • @Lippeth
    @Lippeth Před rokem +248

    *pinches nose* But Muta, the level of paranoia and distrust I've developed since watching your videos has increased tenfold. And I'm now both generally more secure and happier for it. Thanks!

  • @s1l3nttt
    @s1l3nttt Před rokem

    I always love when you talk about linux. I started using manjaro when you made your QEMU video, it was the best thing that happened to me since forever, thanks bro

  • @DR_ZUKA
    @DR_ZUKA Před rokem

    Well looks like my morning will be writing up a threat assessment on this. Thank you for spreading awareness.

  • @dsouthmonster
    @dsouthmonster Před rokem +13

    The only thing I worry about hearing this is if running any game that uses easy anticheat is better off not on my PC and if I should Uninstall. I think the only thing I have is MultiVersus but it makes me feel like I should just leave it strictly to my Playstation for that and not PC. Feels extra to worry about that but at the same time if it's root really goes back to them fixing their system to not let this happen I'm a bit afraid of it in general until they do so. I get that they can only do so much it's the bad people who cause this and make these scenarios happen but the whole kernel thing is terrifying I use windows 11 and it's protections to check my system so far so good but YIKES computers are scary. Lol

    • @ShadowBaofu
      @ShadowBaofu Před rokem +1

      You'd have to do your own research, especially because that kind of information isn't around. Personally, I don't play any games that have anticheat.

    • @dsouthmonster
      @dsouthmonster Před rokem +2

      @@ShadowBaofu There's so many games that use it.

  • @alexhndr
    @alexhndr Před rokem +75

    Welp, looks like Bronya would have to work OVERTIME now to fix this.
    Fucking hackers...

    • @GoodlyPenguin
      @GoodlyPenguin Před rokem +14

      Bronya as in from Honkai Impact?

    • @alexhndr
      @alexhndr Před rokem +11

      @@GoodlyPenguin The one and only

    • @GoodlyPenguin
      @GoodlyPenguin Před rokem

      @@alexhndr The Bronya will save the people from the hackers!

    • @theunderstatement6842
      @theunderstatement6842 Před rokem +5

      someone better give her a homu happy meal in exchange for her hard work

    • @RoyalSouls
      @RoyalSouls Před rokem

      So from my understanding is it unsafe to download honkai impact on my phone?

  • @randomstuff-qu7sh
    @randomstuff-qu7sh Před rokem +1

    I guess this is part of the reason for those legal disclaimers common with most software: that they aren't responsible for any damage to your system or hardware (except when forced to take responsibility by law).

  • @leolavender6457
    @leolavender6457 Před rokem +1

    I love the sneaky little reference to the Twitter drama he went through earlier though

  • @sinjin8576
    @sinjin8576 Před rokem +279

    I'm ok with anti-cheat...what I'm not ok with is lazy as fuck corporations who release marketing anticheats that are built by some entry level tech as their graduate product rather than made by professionals.
    Most of the anti cheat systems used by big companies are DOGSHIT I'd rather deal with actual hackers than have a system that cripples my frames to sub 30 frames or boots me from a game because I use fucking logitech hardware.
    These technologies are either antiqued and havent seen a real update in decades or are programmed by fucking 5 year olds, either way they suck hard and I've abandoned more than 1 game because of how their decided anti cheat actively ruined said game.

    • @ExeErdna
      @ExeErdna Před rokem

      Yup plenty a game have BS anti cheat where I could play it before take a break then never again. They're not protecting shit because you still have bots, spam, and cheating. Lazy ass corpos pocketing all that Advertizement money can't buy extra servers for the day 0 load or an "anti-cheat" made by a dumbass

    • @JameyJoeshuaOfficial
      @JameyJoeshuaOfficial Před rokem

      rip

    • @raresmocanu1743
      @raresmocanu1743 Před rokem +17

      Folks make kernel anticheats for their graduate project? Goddammit I'm gonna have a hard final year.

    • @I_quit_trolling_now
      @I_quit_trolling_now Před rokem

      I’M BETTER THAN MUTA

    • @OGrat
      @OGrat Před rokem +8

      EAC.
      Recently, VRchat, a fucking social platform game with no real usage of a anti-cheat software has removed all mods.
      You can pretty much see the anger.

  • @thetechguychannel
    @thetechguychannel Před rokem +4

    Mutahar rockin that gamer hair like a true chad

  • @O-P-96
    @O-P-96 Před rokem +7

    10:50 quick question about that: how do you check your event log specifically for that anticheat? Do I go the Win + R route, and if so what should I check for, or do I have to use something else?

    • @idlemobu
      @idlemobu Před rokem

      Did you find out how to do it?

  • @Lukmendes
    @Lukmendes Před rokem +1

    It took me way longer than I'm willing to admit that I didn't understand the "dislike it if you dislike it" line Muta says at the end of the video, until now lol.

  • @wednesdayPrepper
    @wednesdayPrepper Před rokem +135

    muta’s hair, muta’s beautiful unkempt hair is the hair of a man that is clean-out of fucks to give, and I love it

    • @HogartHughes
      @HogartHughes Před rokem +4

      i thought that said armpit hair

    • @bbear2695
      @bbear2695 Před rokem

      if a female showed up with unkempt hair we would be sending anthrax to her grandmother.

    • @Glitter_H_Hoof
      @Glitter_H_Hoof Před rokem

      @@HogartHughes just as true

    • @printisdead1983
      @printisdead1983 Před rokem

      I swear for a split second i thought he hqd a side pony tail thingy gping on lol

    • @deepg7084
      @deepg7084 Před rokem +5

      You can trust a man with bed head, for he has shown his true self. - Aristotle

  • @nemu9922
    @nemu9922 Před rokem +15

    I do not understand most of the big words, I just like Muta's voice

  • @SOLDIERSecondRateRaven

    New drinking game: do a shot every time Muta says "of course"

  • @Fiction_Supreme
    @Fiction_Supreme Před rokem

    "I used the stones to destroy the stones" moment right here.

  • @jwalster9412
    @jwalster9412 Před rokem +11

    Anti cheats are a false sense of security. Anti cheats will always have something that dipasses them, unless the company that is making the anti cheats also makes hacked clients and cheating software, and know exactly what they are up against.

  • @civicrider5556
    @civicrider5556 Před rokem +3

    In honkai impact 3rd terminology,
    Be careful, herrscher of corruption is on the loose

  • @mod.ts76
    @mod.ts76 Před rokem

    I found your channel from that first valorant video a couple years ago. Cheers!

  • @1cncguy
    @1cncguy Před rokem

    That thumbnail 🤣 looks like the Curry was to spicy!!

  • @hitime.
    @hitime. Před rokem +3

    Just fyi.
    This bug is due to a bad launch anticheat. The new file which is fine since 1.1v or newer.
    You have to use that specific file so hashing it and blocking the hash is a possibility. Mohi-hoyoverse did fix it but the problem is Microsoft still hasn't revoked the certificate

  • @MarkWIXX
    @MarkWIXX Před rokem +6

    I don't mind anti-cheats as long as they're only on when the game boots up. Anything else is over-reach.

  • @CBeesy
    @CBeesy Před rokem

    Your new "BUT MUUTA" bits Crack me the fuck up lmaooo

  • @Overlord99762
    @Overlord99762 Před rokem

    Muta's hair be looking like an Italian military Bersaglieri helmet

  • @BackwoodSpiritAnimal
    @BackwoodSpiritAnimal Před rokem +8

    I really wanna try Riot's upcoming fighting game but if it has kernel anti-cheat as well I'm not trying that shit

  • @nicolay5448
    @nicolay5448 Před rokem +20

    As always, how could this Possibly go wrong

    • @ThatDragonGirl
      @ThatDragonGirl Před rokem

      @@Instabruh.User.. what content?

    • @joshuarichardson6529
      @joshuarichardson6529 Před rokem +1

      @@ThatDragonGirl It's a spambot. This comment is pasted in EVERY comment thread on the site.

  • @UnwellGaming
    @UnwellGaming Před rokem

    0:07 orb around muta. looks like hes not alone.

  • @GAMERZEROZ1
    @GAMERZEROZ1 Před rokem

    Thanks for the heads up on this happening.

  • @ReanuKeeves69
    @ReanuKeeves69 Před rokem +5

    If there's one thing we can all agree on, it's how humble Muta is

  • @RealRed01
    @RealRed01 Před rokem +228

    Warzone has one of the worst anti cheats. Hey Muta could you do a video on how Blizzard Activision doesn't ban blatantly cheating "Pro" warzone streamers. I would love to see your insight into these streamers who play tournaments and win big amounts of money while the anti cheat avoids them completely. These people are shady individuals who makes millions. Just a cool video Ideal I'm sure everyone would be interested in. I do a little cheater hunting in Warzone and hate the fact these people exploit such an easily exploited community such as COD. You talked about how shady some of these world records are before on the podcast, but I'd love to hear about how exactly Activision is whitelisting said players.

    • @RealRed01
      @RealRed01 Před rokem +11

      @DONT READ MY PROFILE PICTURE NOOOO I READ IT!!!

    • @svowny
      @svowny Před rokem +7

      oh god lord please spend more time on gaming community insted of going 'AcTiVisIoN AnTi CheAT SuCk' do you know that csgo anti cheat suck when it come to detect cheat ? and streamer getting away with up until got caught ?

    • @BeachioSandschannel
      @BeachioSandschannel Před rokem

      @@_hermannlakehunt_7278 >:(

    • @pricklycats
      @pricklycats Před rokem +8

      Most of the people you think cheat don't. Cod isn't a hard game. Warzone has been a thing for 3 years. I think you just can't comprehend how good some people have gotten at warzone over the years. Some people are more talented than others, that's life.

    • @Frozander
      @Frozander Před rokem

      Bro you're just a bot. Literally 99% of "exposed warzone cheater" videos are faked and disproven time and time again.

  • @lifedisconnected3549
    @lifedisconnected3549 Před rokem

    Muta can you make a setup tour of your system or could you give up tips on how we can secure our system on budget level as well ?

  • @indeepjable
    @indeepjable Před rokem +2

    i am going to construct hardware-level anticheat that formats the entire device to only play one singular game exclusively and once only in its entire history bricking and frying the entire device after that one singular run

    • @KlNGMAKER
      @KlNGMAKER Před rokem +1

      congrats you made a console

  • @NyrinTriball
    @NyrinTriball Před rokem +60

    I knew you were right all along, and this is exactly why you should run VMs for games like Genshin to keep yourself protected.

    • @lav4239
      @lav4239 Před rokem +16

      U dont even need to have genshin installed tho

    • @EpicBoss-
      @EpicBoss- Před rokem +3

      Since its on android, couldn't you just use bluestacks?

    • @kelcozi
      @kelcozi Před rokem +15

      @@av_kay5059 i believe this person means virtual machines!

    • @timjack4650
      @timjack4650 Před rokem +6

      It isn't about the game at all . "mhyprot2" is the old driver , they already switch over to "mhyprot3". This incident happen because Microsoft forgot to revoke certificate of the old version , made it still a "trust" driver.

    • @NexuSYT1906
      @NexuSYT1906 Před rokem

      @Nyrin Triball as someone who doesn’t know a thing abt vms could you tell how we could play on a vm? Or install one

  • @stan2531
    @stan2531 Před rokem +3

    When is the someordinarygamers and oompaville moby huge trebuchet collab happening

  • @Zippofanatic77outdoors
    @Zippofanatic77outdoors Před rokem +2

    Didnt know this thanks for bringing me up to speed !

  • @BC-wg5pq
    @BC-wg5pq Před rokem

    Thanks ,Muta great information, always good

  • @ZachPlum
    @ZachPlum Před rokem +3

    I would much rather deal with cheaters in games than anti-cheat most of the time

  • @anactualalpaca7016
    @anactualalpaca7016 Před rokem +3

    man it feels like the only way to not get hacked nowadays is to just not own a computer of any kind lmao

    • @Rahul_Sastry
      @Rahul_Sastry Před 9 měsíci

      Own a computer and do not play any games which require this much access.

  • @romevang
    @romevang Před rokem +1

    Muta's hair getting a little fluffy =P

  • @chaserseven2886
    @chaserseven2886 Před rokem

    Top tier thumbnail the most thumbnail I've ever seen

  • @corruptedpoison1
    @corruptedpoison1 Před rokem +3

    As long as there's games on pc there will always be a couple hackers. Just like piracy. This is one of the only downsides of open platforms like pc gaming.

  • @ravenisnotev1l485
    @ravenisnotev1l485 Před rokem +8

    he was right all along

  • @speing
    @speing Před rokem

    Even though i have 0 clue about whatever you talk about, i love when you upload

  • @zacharylindahl
    @zacharylindahl Před rokem

    Your "but Muta" voice is my favorite part of your episodes

  • @Jobroski47
    @Jobroski47 Před rokem +53

    Anticheats are helpful in keeping a fandom alive but can backfire horribly

    • @blackroberts6290
      @blackroberts6290 Před rokem +23

      truly a certified VRChat moment

    • @Jobroski47
      @Jobroski47 Před rokem +6

      @Guy Whose opinions will offend you Fortnite and warzone be like

    • @Jobroski47
      @Jobroski47 Před rokem

      @@Instabruh.User.. then give me a shout out if it's "better"

  • @PriestessOfDada
    @PriestessOfDada Před rokem +3

    But Mudahar, how many people are going to know how to isolate drivers in this way? Or even audit their systems or logs for that matter?

    • @asmephestoh
      @asmephestoh Před rokem

      I genuinely need to be handheld to check that shit

  • @acespades9981
    @acespades9981 Před rokem

    You know it's a good video when Mutahar comes back and the hair is going a little crazy or standing up. 👀👀

    • @acespades9981
      @acespades9981 Před rokem

      Mutahar's hair state will radiate the same energy of the video always

  • @felixcorona13
    @felixcorona13 Před rokem

    The thumbnail looks like muta trying to stay sleepy while going to the bathroom at 4 a.m 🤣

  • @mhavock
    @mhavock Před rokem +13

    Guys/Gals, its a good practice keep your gaming vs other stuff isolated. If you don't want to have 2 separate machines (1 for gaming and 1 for work), then have 2 isolated installs of windows on your system (1 for gaming , 1 for other stuff) . For example, some people have 2 SDD/HDD, and you can choose which to boot off on startup, and block the other drive or even unlplug its power so it cant be accessed. Also, some USB3 SSD drives are fast enough for running and OS, for example on your main system you can have windows, but have a usb 3 SDD with a Linux for non gaming.
    As an alternative, have your non gaming stuff run in a virtual machine (eg VirtualBox) that is stored on the USB 3 SDD. (Most people wont be able to virtualize their gaming due to GPUs are not easy to virtualize without some work.)
    Don't bother trusting antivirus...
    Assume everything is malicious or has bad flaws (maybe non-intentionally); But still be able to enjoy everything.
    Happy computing!😀

    • @thedragonofdojima4157
      @thedragonofdojima4157 Před rokem

      Well fucking said.

    • @firebreather190
      @firebreather190 Před rokem

      wish they taught this shiz in school or something

    • @bidenssugardaddy6098
      @bidenssugardaddy6098 Před rokem

      What does two separate machines mean? Two separate routers? Idk much about tech

    • @thedragonofdojima4157
      @thedragonofdojima4157 Před rokem

      @@bidenssugardaddy6098 okay so it’s basically, a thing called virtual machine think of it as a system within a system. It can basically protect you from simple viruses, without doing any harm to your actual computer. Like right now my main OS is Arch Linux, and I made a Virtual Machine or VM for short that runs Windows 10. You can search it all up it’s cool stuff, you can also go back to mutas old videoes he explains them well

    • @bidenssugardaddy6098
      @bidenssugardaddy6098 Před rokem

      @@thedragonofdojima4157 ill definitely look into that stuff. Just want my banking to be protected when I switch houses soon.

  • @Kolt461
    @Kolt461 Před rokem +3

    Ironic how VAC is the worse anti-cheat, but is actually safer overall lmao

  • @R0ck4x3
    @R0ck4x3 Před rokem +1

    It's almost as if giving kernel access to programs that probably don't need it is a terrible idea or something, someone's bound to exploit that access eventually.

  • @axxo1337
    @axxo1337 Před rokem

    I think it's something that happens to any kernel driver from now and then, it's not an anti-cheat specific thing.

  • @delon85
    @delon85 Před rokem +27

    Muta: I was right all along
    Normie: But Muta

  • @tyisafk
    @tyisafk Před rokem +31

    This is why I always advocate for cloud based anti-cheats, I get the fact that the driver is separate from the game, but why not just eliminate the problem entirely?

    • @ashtiboy
      @ashtiboy Před rokem

      vaule vac anticheat is one of them that also comes with built in mod frendly whitelesting support even for thirdparty mods long as theere whitelisted too

    • @ashtiboy
      @ashtiboy Před rokem

      also fully opsional for steam games too you don't even have to use it ether if you don't want to.

  • @coryyoung7544
    @coryyoung7544 Před rokem

    For awhile a long time ago you could just use game guardian and parallel space on genshin to change drop rates and cost of pulls but mess with your stats in any way,shape or form you'd be guaranteed a perma ban next time you play.

  • @subatomicmolecules
    @subatomicmolecules Před rokem +1

    Hi muta! Keep up the amazing work

  • @unterhau1102
    @unterhau1102 Před rokem +4

    Bro I was literally just playing genshin on my pc 💀

  • @DashieTM
    @DashieTM Před rokem +34

    Waiting for these "pro" gamers to come out of their bedrooms to call for ring 0 anti cheats again, lul.
    Perhaps a proper AI driven server/userspace anticheat is necessary. Preferably open source for better security.

    • @valletas
      @valletas Před rokem +5

      Open source and companies go as well as bread and motor oil
      Companies HATE to make anything about their products open so i doubt something like that will ever happen unfortunally

    • @sheshin
      @sheshin Před rokem +1

      i've always thought in this day and age, server side anticheat should be really easy to do, i mean, if a server reads obvious things like a player flying or taking 0 damage that should be an instant and permanent ban, no questions asked, no negotiations, too much of a punishment for "false positives"? fair enough, have them instantlt suspended then and have a human, not an AI, analize the case, it should be a no brainer most of the time if it was that blatant, but of course paying someone to enforce the anticheat eats the profits so just install EAC to keep investors happy

    • @DashieTM
      @DashieTM Před rokem +2

      @Watcher You could say the same for operating systems, yet linux is the most secure system.

    • @DashieTM
      @DashieTM Před rokem +2

      @@sheshin These edge cases can indeed be handled rather easily.
      Some other things can't be done with server side alone unless some heavy hitting AI is behind it. -> wallhack etc.
      The client needs the information where another player is before a potential encounter. However this means the information is technically there to be seen, which is what people exploit.
      For a long time, games would just send these positions all over the map, which is obviously bad, but these days proper games only send the info when 2 players are close to each other.
      There is however still the small remaining bit that either the userspace variant or the server side variant needs to handle.

    • @DashieTM
      @DashieTM Před rokem

      @@09f9 just sad to see only this being pursued. Well there is valve, but they are the masters of doing everything at once and therefore never doing it 100% :/
      (Simply not enough people for that)
      Perhaps they decide to go open source with their stuff at some point, who knows.

  • @DeckedSpring67
    @DeckedSpring67 Před rokem

    Consider using hugepages, specifically 1gb size hugepages to improve performance on libvirt.

  • @GarGhuul
    @GarGhuul Před rokem

    “I won’t say that I told you so, but I did tell you.” -Micheal Caine as Alfred.

  • @ghostassassin1107
    @ghostassassin1107 Před rokem +4

    Tower of Fantasy, on the other hand, has problably fuck all in the way of anti-cheat as hackers have been running rampant. Maybe they fixed the issue by now. It's been a couple of weeks.

    • @riokolza1782
      @riokolza1782 Před rokem +1

      It does have an anticheat, called "ksophon.sys"...also kernel level software. But yeeeeah apparently it doesnt work too well, lol.

    • @dann5295
      @dann5295 Před rokem

      It could also be that you just aren't aware of the cheaters in genshin, since its mostly a single player game.

    • @wibs0n68
      @wibs0n68 Před rokem

      @@dann5295 Iirc back then you can hack the game to gain advantage on Abyss floor, never heard about currency manipulation though.

  • @hzzzzz1
    @hzzzzz1 Před rokem +76

    I am literally playing Genshin while I am listening to this video. Let me get this straight. Is the Anti Cheat itself compromise and these hacks happen at random or do we need a third party file installed to hack the game for pulls?I get but don't get the situation. I do not open any files or download anything out of the ordinary. I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary and my computer boots up fine.

    • @knection1986
      @knection1986 Před rokem +89

      Genshin themselves won't give you this bad driver. If you download something that has this driver in it then it could theoretically modify genshin's anti cheat and then mess with you that way. Just watch what you download off the net pretty much.

    • @sparkyspinz9897
      @sparkyspinz9897 Před rokem +16

      Basically the anti cheat has access to your system. So if hackers can get into it, they them can get access. The anticheat is doing anything to you but it leaves the door open so to speak

    • @hzzzzz1
      @hzzzzz1 Před rokem +25

      @@sparkyspinz9897 Ah okay. So basically it is by luck my system is not compromised. It can happen any moment. So is it best to uninstall? I read that Mihoyo knew about this long ago but refused to patch this. I am trying to decide whether to uninstall or leave it there as I do not add anyone or even accept anyone to join my server.

    • @hzzzzz1
      @hzzzzz1 Před rokem +9

      @@knection1986 Cool! I don't download shit and check administrative privileges'. I basically play and get off and touch grass lol. I have battlenet too. Most of my work is encrypted as well and passwords don't autofill. I just want to enjoy the few minutes I get on and move on. So pretty much don't download any mods or hacks for games and you should be good. Right?

    • @chenchen6150
      @chenchen6150 Před rokem +19

      @@hzzzzz1 just a little note : you are play a game that it took them 5 patches later just to implement 2fa , during that 5 patch period thousand of player especialy high spender account hacked because there was a 3rd party software hack them by joining their world or join their target world. Till this day many player are understandably paranoid and only accept play with close friend world.

  • @creaturerecords
    @creaturerecords Před rokem

    funniest thing was that the studio marked this vulnerability as will not fix lol

  • @Snjeguzica
    @Snjeguzica Před rokem

    What's a good software for virtualboxes? My interest in them has grown from watching muta but idk where to start. Only prior experience I have is using oracle vm virtualbox to do some basic stuff in debian in college.

  • @gamamew
    @gamamew Před rokem +48

    All security and antivirus companies must flag all those shit kernel level anticheats as threats, also flag the dns websites-IP addresses of those games as malware hives.... and problem solved

  • @Gavin-dj3kn
    @Gavin-dj3kn Před rokem +5

    "I was right all along".... So just a normal day I guess

  • @alejandrohaynes81
    @alejandrohaynes81 Před rokem +1

    man mentioned Genshin once and youtube thought that was what the vid was about 🤣

  • @Donald_Dump420
    @Donald_Dump420 Před rokem

    Dude that was really interesting. Really had me like woah!