osu! Alternating or Singletapping? Which is better, and why?
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- čas přidán 20. 03. 2018
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single tappers: "my dominant finger is tired"
alternate and hybrids: no pain
me hybriding after 1 map: "well i guess my both fingers are broken now"
my dominant finger never actually gets tired, its my mouse control hand that hurts like heck cuz my aim involves flexing my arm to not overflick or overtrack in all games that include aim
just start playing 5 minute maps your fingers will build up stamina (preferably stream maps btw)
@@riks8123 my pen slips out of my hand if theres no break in the song
*how can i build up my stamina with this*
@@kamimatsuyama use duct tape or.glue or something
@@kamimatsuyama i learned to time pauses on sliders so that i can wipe my pen and fingers dry
jokes on you buddy, i singletap using 2 fingers
what a madman
A jackhammer player
AAARRRRGGGHHHH!!
woodpecker vs jackhammer
Same that happens then I try to alternate spam
As a drummer I’m already thinking about modifying kick pedals into osu clickers
your gonna get some ripped calves
That.. as a drummer too.... that’s a really good idea.
YESSRI
I used to drum and I cannot imagine using kick pedals for osu! I was already tired after drumming with it for like 2 hours so I can’t imagine streaming with this lol
That’s sounds awesome!
Goal: single tap until i become a woodpecker
y e s
Good luck
vaxei mode
I am *wood pecker*
If my jitter clicking speed went into single tapping speed I could single tap a 255 bpm stream(yes I did the math)
@@thememelords9491 bro, please go see a doctor.
i have been alternating from the start and i don't have an acc problem on jumps. Jumps are actually my strongest part.
Jason097 It depends on your rank and what jumps you are actually doing
You will be 100 times more precise with singletap
u are right I'm saying this because it helped me to singetap
Hugo Soares Nah. Rank ~500, still find alternating jumps easier.
I'm the opposite. I main single tap except on most sliders but my forte is still streaming by a long shot.
I feel like there’s absolutely no downfall in learning how to alternate, but if you’ve played for many many months only single-tapping, alternating is extremely harder to learn. One of the main problems people say alternating has is not being able to stay in rhythm, but that’s just the learning curve imo. Maybe it’s just personal preference, but I believe alternating is overall better 👌
ive been just singletapping for several months now and my brain just wont let me alternate 👌:okhand:👌
I can both alternate and single.
I agree, I singletap and I regret the fact I singletapped at the beggining of my osu! life
Linkfire Gamma you know faster maps are kinda hard with singletapping
Guys is easy to learn the alternating. You just have to play osu taiko with 2 buttons, so you alternate very often and in few hours you get used to the alternating perfectly, that's my experience
oh... i thought i was doing completely wrong thing by “hybrid alternating”
Yeah same! I’ve always alternated so its not something i have to get used to. And singletapping is harder for me
I've always alternated. It actually came pretty naturally because that's how I played from the get go. It helps with stamina quite a bit too. I can spend hours playing maps with death streams, jumps, etc.. I tried swapping to single tap at one point and it felt so unnatural compared to alternating lol.
SAME!
@@YINHE2.0yeah i alternate everything even jumps (most of the time atleast)
I just randomly started alternative tapping one day... its weird I never learnt it
Same!
what? i used to single tapping for the first month playing
Same.
I’ve been alternating since i started playing cuz I just thought that was the proper way to play for some reason. No one told me that I just assumed lmao
I started week 1 to alternate xD
I'm one of those people that have been single tapping my way up the Osu difficulty, however I am now stuck because I can't do streams. My plan is to go back to the very beginning and start with easy songs and forcing myself to alternate, to then eventually get back to the level I am at with single tapping.
MeowSaysMe Unfortunately
, i have the same issues especially with 200+ bpm I single tapped from 4 years but then when I started playing 5* and higher and those tech maps it’s really difficult to keep up with the bpm with single tapping and it’s really hard to maintain consistency and stamina as it’s really exhausting to do a 4-5 min map with like over 9 AR+ and 200+ bpm some parts are extremely hard to keep up with especially the triples on curves as you really have to start those triples and double bursts with your dominant finger so yeah, in conclusion alternating is a must if you wanna go on high levels of this game , you have to do it all over from 3 star maps up again and it’s gonna take a while.
Any progress?
@Orfan Warrior streaming is obviously hard on a fundamental level, but i don't think it's unreasonable to say that having 2 fingers is obviously easier to do it than with only 1.
CheetosWarrior NW my jumps are so bad because I only practice streams even if I’m only 80k, jumps just don’t seem fun.
That’s what I did. When I started to get to 3*+ songs, I went back from the very beginning and forced myself to alternate. I got used to it very quickly.
Everyone: Use The keys to be a pro
Me who have been playing for 5 months and using mouse buttons: *S H I T*
bruh
I use the mouse buttons and keys. Can play insane maps and some above that no problems
nice
Me too and I think ima switch to hybrid alternating I think it’s better
dont have money to buy a keyboard? lmao
i started out with clicking using a mouse LMAO never again . anyway im here because singletapping recently has been hurting my dominant finger so i thought alternating could be the solution to that. even if i have to relearn from the start
How's the progress?
@Beyer hows the progess?
I alternate and I get burning pains in the center of my hand, I don’t know how much alternating will help with pain unfortunately
Lol I started with trackpad and still use that to play osu!
same lmao
Woodpecker style for days(except streams) Just because i love the reaction of others when they see you single tap triplets
Icyr3y Lmao
Icyr3y agreed, fucking love that shit.
Icyr3y what is that ? idk :/
Icyr3y single tap 200+bpm triplets?
TheTacxam it's not as difficult as it sounds, gotta jitterclick tho.
I singletapped until about 2.1k pp and decided to fully transition to alternating at the same time I switched from mouse to tablet, took me 3 weeks to learn to play with that combo but from experience I'd say you can improve faster by alternating as faster maps become way easier
Perfect time to switch, you had to re train your muscle memory to tap with your aim. Smart decision
couldnt you have improved because of using a tablet, not because of alternating?
KarliXon your such a noob I’m at 21pp
alt is cheat
@@Codyuwu ikr basically halves the bpm
This is the video that made me decide to start alternating after weeks of single tapping, and after learning how to alternate I improved more than I expected. Thanks man
The moment u played Thorugh the fire and flames so often that u instantly recognized the map in the background lmao
6:05 o_0
Kysabius Empire xdd
Wish I can do the same in school :p
my man caught me offguard with that one dude, literally almost came in my pants, this guy is a prick for not warning before
UwU
@@aitortita6081 bro whut the frick
loool i started playing osu! only alternating and with the time i switched to "hybridalternating"... i dont know it just makes me happy to see that for once i did something right feelsgoodman :,)
hmmm, I always fully alternated, and I don't imagine myself stopping. Because it seems like another effort to know when not to alternate :s I'm not ready for this ! Also, I love to think that my fingers will actually be equally trained. Which is not the case with pseudo alternating. For example, starting a stream with the weak finger is a bit harder for me. I can't imagine for a pseudo alternating person.
elie520 well my fingers are equally trained because I use both to singletap when I need to... so I don't have something like a "stronger" one but yeah it all comes down to preference
Oh okay. I didn't think that pseudo-alterrnating ppl used different finger to single tap :) Seems good then. Because indeed it feels like single tap is more accurate.
Alexander same here but... im still super shit at the game
Which is kinda sad
why is this in my recommendations
i don't even know what usu is
Its osu and its good
@@bigmansulo bud this was a year ago
@@Hikaruu yep and how the fuck do i have 4 likes
@@bigmansulo 6 now ;)
*its rising*
Am I weird I’ve always alternated even when i first started using keyboard for clicking
Same here as well
you guys are weird
Yeah idk why single tapping always felt weird for me
bit late to this but same. my thought process was if i have 2 keys to click the circles why would i not use them both at the same time lol
@@integral2017 same lol
I prefer spamming :^)
idk about that, i prefer not clicking strategy, it is better imo
Slad Meh, I use relax cheats, works the best imo
I literally spam buttons on catch the beat
Hybrid alternating is the most comfortable for me
same
when I learned you could use 2 different keys to tap I just instinctively alternated everything because it was way easier, and felt almost instantly natural to me. I was doing it basically from the start (after the very first couple maps I obviously mouse clicked) I only learned much later that the majority of people don't do this and it kind of floored me. If I tried to single tap I would probably fail every map I try lmao
this is the best video i've seen explaining tapping methods. thank you for actually showing what the different ones mean
I can single tap 500bpm watch:
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500 bpm stream or singletap
wow that's so fast
@@bommy9857 i think you can clearly see he is streaming 500 bpm
@@IbraheemKhazbak kutafix confirmed
What a fucking god
I single tap but switch fingers every once in a while on long maps, when I have a split second break. My middle and pointer finger, i'd say have the same dominance in strength and stamina level. Im currently switching over to alternating and I think that since I basically have 2 dom fingers, it will make the switch a lot easier. I've been playing for about 3 months and have 2.4k pp. Played keyboard and tablet since the start, for reference.
At first alternating felt awkward because I was so used to single tapping, but after a few days of practice I managed to get the hang of it, and I'm doing way better than I used to before.
dude, i always used alternate tapping and thought everyone played like that too
Yea they do only on streams, and that’s the only thing we lower level focus on when watching pros, on streams and bursts,not knowing they single tap more than alternating depending on the level
Thx so much for the vid even though I'm late. I just started playing so I was able to switch before I became to reliant on one finger
I played single tapping for about a month, then one of my friends told me to try alternating and now i've pretty much trained myself to alternate with just about everything. The only time i don't alternate is when there is a large gap in time between jumps, otherwise, i alternate. I've become so accustomed to this, i'm not sure if i want to try hybrid alternating.
imagine being a single tapping player.
*This post was made by the mouse tapping gang*
i like how the instant the video started i immediately recognized you're playing through the fire and flames
god i love that map so much
wtf i started alternating i thought that’s what everyone started on lmao
Bwahahahahahhaha me too. I do full alternation
Me too my brain was like” well they give you two keys for a reason so this must be it”
i'm Hybrid alternating from the very beginning because i find it very comfortable and *gUcCi*
StormEX it took me like weeks to get used to it tbh
Its my first way of tapping... without knowing 🤣🤣
Me 2 tbh i started osu with hybrid alternating apparently
same and i didnt notice how important it was until i started playing dt xd
same I started this way too on my old membrane keyboard
I am using K1 for sliders, K2 for singletaps and doubletaps (if they are slow enough) and use both (alternating) for streams and triple+ tapping (if too fast for only K2).
Can this be called Hybrid Alternating?
thanks for the advice i took some tips and ive seen immediate improvment
I started 2012 singletap only now im learning to alternate since i can not singletap 260 BPM upwards consistently and its really hard but getting bettter overall is a huge sideeffect! And the satisfaction fcing spaced streams or 300+BPM jumps
I've always been playing hybrid alternative, it makes more sense to me.
I alternated since 2 star lvls and thought it would be bad ty dude
I just alternate it’s perfect for me and I started the method when I joined the game and can do cool streams and jumps with alternating. The only important thing is that you can play without thinking is what counts regardless what play style you have
When i play the osu for the first time, I thought that the alternating was common wtf😨
So am I the only one who started out alternating??? I can't be the only one
Nah I started alternating because I can't single tapping. When I first time playing osu.
Me too bro , I always alternate except for some slow bits or specific bits of songs
I've been alternating from the start it just felt more fun, i cant alternate on jumps tho so single tap
@@MeguminIsWaifu I only alternate on jumps
@@OG-yv3qb that sounds hard to do but if alternating is all you've ever done its probably not that bad
dude I was trying out alternating before but i couldn't quite understand it, I watched this video and after about 30 minutes of practice I was able to break my skill ceiling and see good improvement. Very glad I watched this amazing video
That moment you manage to figure out the beatmap playing in the background just by tapping to the beat POG
Oh wow, I started playing like 2 weeks ago and I found It pretty natural to "alternate"
I started out single tapping then got into mania and quit standard. A few months then I decided to play standard again and tried out alternating, and I actually found it way more comfortable than singletapping.
Personally i find it more comfortable too, just i lack the speed to hit some jumps and end up overtapping/undertapping, in the end its all about finger control. I don't have enough of it yet to fully alternate.
Mania is a MASSIVE help in Standard for finger control, TEACH ME SENAPI
to be 100% honest I got bored one day and was like "fuck it, I am shit at standard so let's meme around and learn mania," xd. I am only 19k on mania though ;-;
I just started roughly two weeks ago, first began with clicking with my pen, then I hovered and singletapped, then I disabled my mouse keys and kept on singletapping and when I was getting into the "normal" maps I began alternating and for me alternating is much easier. It feels as if I have twice the time for each note and now I started deleting one-star maps.
If I'm able to beat a harder map of the same song I delete the previous difficulty.
The learning phase was five minutes, because I was still on easy maps.
Single tapping is useful for starters. But the problem as the map goes harder and faster your single tapping skills is at disadvantage due to either can't catch up anymore. That's the reason alternating should be learned early, same as single tap if you want to train both type of tapping.
When i started playing osu i thought that everyone is alternating, so i learned this. When i played more i realised that everyone single taps. Lately i wanted to switch from alternating to singletapping, to go from alternating to singletapping is so hard to learn. After this video i'll probably stay on alternating, like i already said it's pretty hard to learn singletapping and it's also pretty frustating.
Same, just today I learned higher skilled players only alternate on streams and bursts and now after learning alternating I have to learn hybrid but I’m willing to try so I can be better
Old thread what ev but for me, single tapping helps me with finger control better. Ofcourse I don’t singletap all the way, i only alternate during burst and streams and that really helps me with finger control
i literally can’t alternate cause my brain gets confused and i just don’t do it when I try
same
im a mania player but ive been trying to learn how to be more consistent at alternating in standard for a while now, and something ive noticed is that playing more handstream/generally dense stream maps in mania helps a lot with gaining consistency in tapping in standard, i still normally singletap because i dont have too many issues with finger control or stamina, but i have very bad raw speed so i can only singletap up to 220bpm, so playing trilly mania patterns often helps me a lot with getting accuracy on streams and jumps too fast to singletap
As a player who played full alt for years and smthing since the beginning, I'll say that trying singletap is good because it makes the way you just tap and way you stream different, so I can now stream just a little. Full alt is still deep in my heart though
OwO updated stream tips plz
I naturally do alternating always have it feels weird to do single
I am a single tapper, and had the problem of running out of Stamina with burse streaming maps that last 8-10 mins on end, but I overcame this by training both my finders on single taping (not to be confused with Alternating) as one of my fingers gets tired, I switch my other finger to be the dominant run, and in rare times, use a completely different if both fingers are tired, and I need it for a last resort / push
Good thing I already searched for tips now imma just go with alternating. Wish me luck.
It took me literally like 2-3 hours to go from singletapping to alternating, and now i cant go back
What do you mean u cant go back? Like ur mind cant understand the one tap?
@@ackerman4421 like if i singletap my fingers just give up and either don't move or i just start alternating unconsciously, however i feel comfortable alternating so i don't really care
Not gonna lie when I turned on osu for the first time I didn't even realize you could single tap so I started off alternating XD
I used to single tap but i had to switch somehow so i just began practicing hybrid alternate taps on streams and i think it’s way more beneficial since you can tap quicker
I have carpal tunnel with my left hand in which my index finger was most affected, so i started alternating hybrid and singletapping with all my fingers in my left hand.
3:15
hey im on tv!
what
Dang you guys are weird i started alternating from the start and started to single tap cause thought it was easier to single tap on jumps so basically I can single tap or alternate if i want to willingly
Omg, good thing I found this by accident through my recommended. I used to play OSU occasionally so I'm still pretty nooby when I decided to play it more often. It's my 3rd day so I guess it's better to become familiar with alternating as well.
Something in this video that I don't think was emphasized enough was recommending whatever works for you. Everybody is different, some people can single tap super fast without much time needed training, some people can naturally alternate without having a dominant finger. Other people will require many hours to do one of or both of these things. Personally I single tap almost all maps, but have little issue full alternating if I feel like doing so. I find it varies heavily depending on the map you're playing.
I started playing 2 months ago and i always did hybrid alternation without knowing anything about the game haha.
Lucky you
I’ve been full alternating since the start lmfao
how long did it take for you to fully master it? by fully master i mean never ever missing a note because your fingers got confused.
@@BattousaiHBr idk my fingers just know, it's like a second nature for me
@@Amesyy but how long did it take to fully learn? do you never accidentally miss patterns with alternating doubles and triples? or doubles and quadruples or weird patterns like that.
@@BattousaiHBr probably as long as it took me to master 3 stars, as I already said I've been full alternating since the utter start so there wasn't really a learning curve for me.
@@Amesyy i think you might be misremembering...
One thing that's rarely mentioned: full alting tech maps is very, very satisfying. It's a feeling that's specific to full alt, quite similar to how you feel when you start properly reading patterns or hitting jumps or streams.
Your brain will tingle
I think that it's best to pick up alternating right on the start of playing osu. I personally picked up alternating when I was playing like 2.9 star maps and yeah at the start I couldn't keep the flow, it felt weird and had a really shit accuracy percentage until recently. Now I can't relate with any of the cons you said about alternation. But I don't know if a bad learning curve is really an argument because it's mainly from a perspective of someone used to singletapping I think alternating players could say the same thing about single tapping
Alternating is better. Higher skill
cap in my opinion when it comes to acc and fcing songs while alternating than single tapping. There are also songs that are pretty much impossible to single tap that are only made possible through alternating and really fast dt maps that require alternating. Single tap fast bpm for rsi 😂
YSoAggressive well almost everyone in top 50 is a single tapper xD
Shiek lmao. Everyone in top 50 are playing alternate, except Emilia, azerite, fils, hvick and few other players.
John Doe Firebat. Vaxei, Mathi, Cookiezi, Rafis? And more. They just alternate on high bpm Jumps or when they are tired.
Shiek and that proves that they are not only singletap players ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
??? They singletap more than they alternate
conclusion: just press the damn key
iv been playing for 3 days now only single tapped notices massive fatigue on 4 star runs trying out alternating hybrid, taking abit to get used to but man im noticing a difference right away, thanks for the info
I'm glad I was playing full alt since day one. Being a pianist makes osu very easy sometimes
In my experience if you're actually used to alternating, accing jumps is just as easy as while singletapping, maybe even easier because it requires practically no stamina no matter what the speed. What's difficult is complex rhythms and stream stamina.
@MYKOLA NECHYPORUK I had that same problem. Practice on low stars so you don't end up spamming. Work your way up till it comes naturally.
it took me years to master alternating between sequences of doubles and triples, what a fucking demonic pattern.
regarding stream stamina, i think that's a problem for all styles.
When I started I did single tapping but when like 1 week passed I decided to do alternating, then that was when I realised: I cant get back to single tapping, like at all
Yup it's so hard lmao
Same, though after learning to alternate, I preferred alternating over single tapping.
I mainly single tap at the slower parts but when it's something like a stream I alternate. I also alternate every so often as a counter balance to slowing down.
I’m really new and I started using alternating or at least to the best of my ability, and it’s way easier especially when a bunch of taps are lined up
Why did alternating take me like 1 week to adjust lmao, I didn't even have to learn it, but now singletapping is super weird to me
RozumariSama Rank?
14k
lucky u
i was ,,hybrid alternating" form the very beggining (after i stopped clicking mouse)
For me it was natural to alternate tho i still singletap some double or triple circle bursts
Just my own playstyle as a beginner (like 1.3 million rank)
I believe the best way to Alternate is to hold down the button you pushed regardless if it is a singletap; therefore, when you need to jump, you just need to alternate to the other finger whilst letting go of the already-pressed finger. This emulates single-tapping on both fingers; however, this style is mostly applicable to low-star beatmaps. When doing bursts, it'll often be easier to mess up due to the shittapping of not building a conscious 2-tap switch or 3-tap switch or even 4-tap switch or even letting go at the end of a burst where you move onto a slider.
I only have a couple dozen (if maybe) hours on osu! and I started by single-tapping. But idk if I pushed myself too hard or I have bad wrists but quickly, as I progressed to high 3/low 4 stars, my wrists started to develop some problems. That's when I decided to learn alternating. My suggestion to you, if you have the same issue I do, is to alternate. It helps in the future and doesn't strain your wrist as much. Also, try to not tilt your wrist upward 90 degrees, try to do the opposite.
I'm playing Alternating style
Alternating . Boom were done here.
What I have been trying to learn is single tapping but use my middle finger halfway through then when I can, switch to my index finger so I don't continuously miss at the end
You can also add additional weight to your altarnating fingers for training and play Rocky beatmap
I sometimes alt but i mostly singletap (even on jumps)
Bro... I've been alternating from the begging and im actually trying to learn how to single tap. Here you are telling me alternate is better. I feel like a clown.
Just hybrid alternate.
I started playing Osu July of 2018 and I was using mouse only up until around February of 2019. I naturally was only single tapping until I got to bursts and streams but the fatigue was just awful and there were maps where I just couldnt single tap fast enough. I wondered if I should start practicing alternating. By sheer coincidence this video comes up in my recommended box and after watching I decided I should approach this "hybrid alternation" playstyle. It was a serious struggle and it was only up until around August I got alternating down and I could even do long jumps while alternating. Of course naturally id get better over time, but as I was practicing alternating, my skill and accuracy was sky rocketing. In a matter of just a couple of months I was at like 400k and then I hit 200k. Now having this playstyle more polished, Im only 4k from being a 5 digit. So I credit this video to vastly helping my improvement and overall enjoyment of the game. So for that, I must thank you :)
time to do stream practice maps with single taps only and learning the art of the woodpecker
singletapping fast parts and alternating slow parts for me
Siru I do the exact opposite of that lol
jfjdikqkalapncjcofo lmao same
ive used alternation since day one. the really good thing about it is that you always have one free finger to tap the next circle when the other is busy recovering from the last one
usually I will alternate on sliders so my main finger does the slider and I leave off on the non dominant one , for jumps I will just use one finger or if I'm losing pace I'll occacionly hit the second to catch up for the lack of speed for the first finger, when it comes to going into a slider if i notice that it would start on my non dominant finger than i will just tap one extra so i break alternating but i get the favorable stream setup, and for streams just alternate
I only alternate on fast tapping parts, although I can only alternate if I start on my middle finger or else ill mess up if I start with my pointer finger. Problem is my middle finger get's tired fast so I have to alternate to rest it half way through if there's not a lot of smashing parts where I have to alternate. I lose track of how many taps I need to do if I start fast tapping parts with my pointer. Another problem I have is I can't figure out sometimes how many times I have to tap when a lot of circles are stacked, most times it's only 3 times but when it's more than that and they start to create a line across the screen I just start spamming without knowing how fast I should be tapping.
When I started I found single tapping way too hard so I just decided to alternate. After strickly alternating for about a month I developed an alternate but single tap for the spaced streams or close tech jumps method and it just works for me.
I have been alternating since i started osu and i never knew it any other way xD
I would say as a full alternate player, alternating is also much harder to learn triples and streams.
This is because single tappers just keep clicking the rhythm they did before the streams and when streaming they just alternate fingers with the exact same rhythm of their dominant finger, so it is very easy to know how to click twice as fast.
However for alternate players we don’t have a finger for speed reference, we just have to click what we think twice as fast alternation would be, which is pretty abstract.
True, but I think learning to stream at the proper pace is important anyway for playing maps with variable bpms and tricky maps in general.
I learned how to play by alternating, and sometimes if a map does not have an equal amount of k1 and k2 numbers I will keep on trying untill I get it even and balanced, as all things should be...
i'm glad i thought of hybrid alternation before i got too far into osu.
I actually single tapped with both my fingers so learning alternating was pretty easy 😄
commenting 2 years later, i started playing standard more (mainly osu!mania player) and have no problem single tapping and/or alternating. So I think that mania helps, for those that struggle learning it
I found this video because I literally perfectly split my fingers up no matter what and I've just learned that way for about a month. My friend told me I should use both fingers when I play so ever since then I just switch back and forth. Now that I'm playing more 5 and 6 star maps everything is a lot harder to read. I don't know if it's because I have to get accustomed to the difficulties, or if I'm just being inefficient with the way I tap. Nice video, thanks for the insight