Bianchi Oltre XR4 First Ride - Is a £13k bike that much better than a £6k or £1.5k bike ?
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- After over 8 months the wait is finally over. It's time to ride my Bianchi Oltre XR4 with Campagnolo Super Record EPS. Let me show you some of the details before I head out for my first ride and try to answer a question that I've been thinking about since we started this project. Can a £13k bike really be that much better than a £6k bike like my Specialized Venge, or even my first road bike, a Giant Defy that if bought today would cost you about £1.5k ?
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I’ve got the same bike in a 59 frame. It’s currently running Ultegra Di2 but I’ve just collected the entire Super Record EPS gruppo and will be swapping out soon. I’m also running Zipp 303 Firecrest wheels with Vittoria Corsa 2.0 graphene tires. Looking forward to completing the build and hopefully a break in the wet and cold winter weather! Thanks for the inspiration and I’m glad you’re enjoying the bike. Cheers!
That sounds awesome 👌👍
Great video! That bike is a beauty Sir Pete!
Just love your new bicycle it’s just a beautiful piece of engineering almost a piece of Art I hope you really enjoy it as you get used to riding it 👍🏻🚲
Lovely bike Peter 😍. It even sounds good 👌. Fantastic CZcams video as always buddy, and I hope that you and your wonderful pedlars have a great week ahead 👍
You don’t hear the noise on the bike but it does sound epic 👌
I know nothing of quality bikes but have found all these videos really interesting.. Thanks chaps, much appreciated.
Cheers Dan 👍
Such an amazing looking bike.the quality and technology on it is awesome. Very happy cycling to you.👍🔥✊
Thanks 👍
What a lovely bike! Enjoy it mate, you have waited long enough!
Thanks Jeff 👍
I think Your bike's great👌👍❤there's so much to like about it. Thank's for sharing the build process & riding video I thought was pretty good too. I've ridden a couple of alloy road bike's & found that the stiffness of the frame & front forks helps a lot for confidence in cornering downhill, going around tight bends & getting power through the cranks to the back wheel. I dream of one day, owning a nice carbon road bike, but for now I'll settle for my trusty Trek.
Just beautiful!
Must be a joy
It sure is 👍
Stunning bike, looks 😎. Hope you have many happy miles on it.
Thanks John 👍
Don't know much about pedal bikes but acknowledge the emotion and beauty that was conveyed on this maiden ride of this particular work of motion art.
Thanks 👍
WoW WoW WoW I love it nice one Peter 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
loving the bike, nice colour Ped
Thanks 👍
Incredible bit of kit, I am very jealous!
Thanks Will 🙏🏻
Loved it 🙂
It just looks so cool
Thanks 👍
Amazing bit of kit..., but for that kind of dosh I could do K swap in my Miata 😎. I'm still cranking on my 1981 Nishiki Comp 1 and Shimano 600 group set. Got over 45,000 km on the old girl.
Lovely looking and sounding (between the wheezes) bike!
😂😂😂
I’m glad you like it Peter… think I would want an engine in it and stabilisers…but might have to catch the bus! I did once buy a bike..august 1998..£120 from Halfords 🤪🤪🤪🤪…then released that I just cannot ride a bike so took it back the next day! Ride safe ..😃😃😃😃😃
Lovely bike. Some will never understand why anyone would spend that kind of money, which is fair enough. My non bike friends think I’m crazy but compared to racing cars, it’s good value and keeps the old ticker going. Hoping to get my new build finished March (about a year after pushing the button on ordering). Custom builds are great fun. Shame waiting times on bits just crazy at the mo.
So true 👍 Good luck with the build 👍
I normally comment on your content but that bike apart from how amazing it looks is so way over my level of cycling that I have nothing to add that in any way would reflect any intelligence that I may or may not have. Enjoy it.
Looks amazing, lucky chap. Beautifully built. Now for the podcast! Your sound was a bit off today. Still awesome 👌
That's a lovely bike. I built and rode a pair of Bianchi XL-EV2 with Record back in 2000 which were light and comfortable but had a short life because of the aluminium seat tube eventually fatiguing. It was the same type of bike that Pantani & Mercatone Uno were riding at the time.The bottom bracket area used to sway from side to side under power on the big ring. Later I built up a replica of the Bianchi S9 Matta that Backstedt won the Roubaix on. I've still got that one as my winter bike, the change from aluminium to titanium made a big difference in comfort and a huge one in longevity. I can crash it too without writing it off unlike a carbon frame. I now ride a bespoke carbon IF with Super Record and it's another level but it was made to measure. Instead of comparing group sets or grams saved the most important factor I think is getting a bike fit. I know you mention this and it's something you've done but so many people don't. It's free watts. It's more comfort. You're more aero. I like having my elbows at 90 degrees whilst in a tuck, your bars look further away than mine are. The only thing I'd probably change on mine is to get disc brakes, I've been on the far side of 60mph many times on descents in French mountains.
Thanks for this. Really interesting 👍
Love the bike absolutely beautiful 👍
Thanks 👍
Beautiful bike
Bianchi oltre xr4 great job!! After all 🇮🇹 Italian job! For me Bianchi Sprint!! Petros from Greece 🇬🇷
Πέτρο κάνε και ένα Ελληνικό review!!
Hi Ped, lovely bike. You have certainly done the right thing with Campag. Very difficult choice between DI2, however for a one off personal build Italian bike Campag is a treasure. Trust me, the Boras just get faster the quicker go. You will find it easier to maintain a 20+mph. Enjoy it.
Love the whoosh sound from the wheels, 👍🚴👍🚴
So do I 😜😂
Very nice - Power-meter is a must on that bike for structured training and improvements.
I’m getting a WattBike for that 😜
Great bike and video. Looking forward to the electric bike stuff.
Got an ex demo unit XR4 Disc (pristine, has about a hundred miles) with Dura Ace Di2 and Vision 55 SC wheels for about 5500 pounds.
It’s astonishing how stable and planted it feels even in strong gusts. The freewheeling also caught me by surprise. It just rolls so effortlessly.
But at the end of the day, it’s not leaps and bounds above my 2016 Merida Reacto Team with Dura Ace 9000 and Campagnolo Bora Ultra 50 tubulars. That bike is also wonderful and it’s really hard for me to justify the extra 3500 grand for the Oltre.
However.
The Oltre was the first bike in years that felt perfect and like a superbike. Not even my former Trek Madone SLR comes remotely close to this feeling. Some things are just not quantifiable. :)
They sure are 👍
What is your Strava? Recommend you get some Garmin Rally SPD-SL pedals for power/cadence measurement.
Love it
Mr Petrol Ped, great video!! From one cyclist to another - Fitness: a little different creating a bike review vs a car review. I've been cycling for about 5 years on a 2nd specialised Roubix. It was such an interesting vide because I'm at the stage of...... Upgrade again or by New
Great…N+1 😜
Was in Alpe Duez in the Summer, a young Dutch lad rocked up with a brand new Bianchi with electronic shifting but it was misbehaving, the bike shop there had no mechanics that could help fix it - he was almost in tears - hope you have more luck with your bike…….
Nice, I have a 1998 Mega Pro XL - triple-butted boron steel, in the Mercatone Uno colour scheme.
Ooo nice 👌
Beautiful … bianchi and campag as it always should be ❤
Thanks 🙏🏻
That bike looks absolutely stunning with its unique colour and it does have a matching hefty price tag 🏷 you must secure that bike and don’t bring it to London Richmond park. Pedal power combined with petrol power makes this channel distinctively unique and I am loving it.
No chance of me coming there 😳
Nice one ped, so chuffed for you. You must be a fit lad to cycle and talk to camera as well as you did.
Love the bike PP- what pressure are you riding on the 28mm tyres? I would say we are pretty much the same size (although currently I’m somewhat heavier 😳) but your bike looks pretty much the same dimensions as my road bikes. I’m a bit old school and although I swapped to 25mm I still put circa 7 bar in my Conti’s. Love both the car and bike shows, picked them up after seeing you on the electric car show from mid Wales.
Wow over 15000.-€ Just got a Harley for a bit more 😉 my planed Canyon will be around 8-9k so quit a bit cheaper… it’s great to see You enjoying it, it’s a beautiful bike and yes as long as You enjoy it that much it’s worth every penny 😎
I've got an XR4 rim brake which I rode for the first time on the road yesterday, I've also got a Noah Fast, both Di2, so one is about 5. 5k the other 9k. Yesterday 110km. 1000m climb at 34.5 kmh, I've done the same ride on the Noah at about the same speed, difficult to compare speed due to temp wind speed etc. The XR4 feels really plush, agree it dampens out all the ride vibration but it's not lazy, it feels really responsive just like the Ridley. One comment ditch the sequential changing it'll slow you down. Mine weighs 7.4 kg without pedals. BTW I didn't pay 9 for mine I got it second hand from a lad who could nt ride it due to injury but it's basically brand new. It's not about the cost it's about the value you derive from it
Spot on. Google XR4 pink yellow. I’ve always wanted that one on rim if I ever moved away from4 Emondas. My disk Emonda horrid. Went straight on turbo. Piece garbage. Zero feel. Dead as a dodo.
Thanks for this Peter 👍
How jel?….. WELL jel!… love it - congratulations!
👊
NIce. I have a lowly cube. Have to say I don't like going out without lights fear of having an accident, had a nasty motorcycle crash before.
Maybe do a feature on lights Pete?
We’ve done a podcast on that very subject 👍
czcams.com/video/GzsrYjfB2s0/video.html
Fantastic bike. Hope you're going to do an EMTB Rail video. Free wheeling resistance will feel a little different! 😅
We sure are 👍
Hi, watched the other one first. Question, how often will you have to replace the chain from stretching it, because it has to be thinner than lots out there because your setup with the gears. Very nice bike and looks great.
It’s more about the massive amounts of power I’m putting through the cranks 😂😂😂
By my experience the 12-speed chain lasts for around 5000 km (non racing), same as the 11-speed predecessor. The chain is super-narrow but made from high-strength steel.
@@einundsiebenziger5488 TK’s
Great video Ped. I think you could easily be a new presenter on GCN :-)
It's all been said below but it's a lovely bike and a great series on its build journey.
I have seen wheels with ceramic bearings and thought "wow! They are expensive! Are they really that good?" Sounds like I have my answer.
Just wondering, with the shift up lever on the hoods, is it close to your hands and easy to catch? Might of just been the angle.
All the GCN guys are proper riders 😂
Thumb shifters are out the way enough 👍
About time for a one year long term review mate.
Good point 👍
@@PetrolPed I hope it's been good mate, mine is absolutely 💯 fabulous 👌
Great series of videos. I live in Edinburgh and spoke with Paul a few weeks ago regarding a potential custom build Bianchi. The main issue I'm wrestling with is whether to go with the Specialissima as a more all round road and light weight climbing bike, or do as you have done and go full aero with the xr4. I'd be interested to hear whether or not you considered the Specialissima, and what ultimately dictated your decision to go for the xr4?
I just love the look of an aero bike so it was always XR4 for me. Both stunning bikes though :-)
A question, maybe for Paul (who incidentally, sold me my first proper bike, and got me hooked). I appreciate, and agree that weight isn't everything, but as you say yourself, a bike of this quality is about every little detail adding up, and I suggest weight is as much a factor as for example ceramic bearings. I have just ordered a Scott Addict Ultimate, RRP around £11k (SRAM Red, Zipp 353, Quark Power meter...) with a spec weight as configured of 6.7kg. Trek's Emonda is similarly under 7kg. You say the Bianchi is "a little over 8kg". Where is the extra weight, when compared to say the Addict, or a top spec Emonda? I guess I just don't understand the extra 1.x kg.
Stunning bike! Love the noise of the carbon drone on the highspeed pass. A compact 32T and a 32T, are you intending of hitting the Alps again?? or there's the newly tarmac "unofficial" steepest road in the world (Bamford Clough). A "practical/daily" car review on the way there and an attempt just to finish by a club cyclist would be great to see.
Yep. Hope to get to the Alps next year 👍
@@PetrolPed What's the smallest cog? 11T as you might find you're spinning out at 55 km/h plus (with a slick bike and your weight you'll easily hit that speed on negative gradient).....got to think of the KOMs
Stunning looking bike , ( expensive but worth it )you only get what you pay for
good to see you out on the bike and feeling that great new bike day feeling ( check Francis Cade for tips on filming on bikes) i now have two bikes - one mechanical rim brake dura ace and the other sram etap disc - always takes me a while to adjust when i switch bikes they behave so differently. Can see you need to work on your core stability 😜ha ha. PS are you on Strava?
Yeah this was the first 10 miles. Will take time to get used to 👍
That’s a good looking trick piece of bicycle engineering. The Bianchi bikes are as far as I know the only make that has a factory color. A color that makes it immediately recognisable. That’s great brand recognition.
I ride a 2004 TREK Madone 5.2, which is basically Lance Armstrong’s TDF bike from 2003. I spent quite a bit of money on the bike at the time and have found no reason to replace it until recently. The combination of precise electronic shifting, hydraulic disc brakes and ceramic bearings may be the motivation I need to give myself a retirement present.
One of my reasons to avoid Campagnolo has been the freewheel noise. Too loud, actually so loud that to avoid it, I’d have to keep peddling 😁. What is the freewheel noise on your bike like ?
Love the bike, is it a 61cm frame still? Trying to judge by the head tube?
Yep 👍. Great spot 👌
@@PetrolPed probably one of the better looking big frame bikes, for me at 6ft 5 it is hard to find a bike that doesn't look like your riding a gate. Thanks for sharing..nice to see one in that frame size at last
Hi Peds 👍👍
Hi 👋
Not quite sure on the seat height, bit of hip rocking?
It’s perfect 👌
I built up my dream bike a couple of years ago, with quotes of £12,000+!!!
I eventually built it up by shopping around, eBay, etc for under £8,500!!!
I had a Colnago C60 with Campagnolo Super Record EPS, Bora Ultra tubular
wheels, silk tubulars, Look pedals(upgraded to Ti ceramic!), Deda Alanera in-
tegrated bars/stem, Selle Italia carbon saddle, Campagnolol Super Record
bottle cages, etc!
It is a real looker with plenty of jealous faces!
Unlike you, I also spend on the clothing, too, with over £4,000+ spent on top
end hand-made kit from Italy & Spain!
Nice 👌
Does a bike this expensive still crunch gears??
When will you do a longer term review of this beautiful bike?
I need to get that sorted. Absolutely love this bike 👌👍
@@PetrolPed i have a very similar bike, same colours, same groupo, handlebars etc i just decided to stick with rim brakes.
Is it really more aero than a venge? he was follwing a car at the time.....
Great looking bike still think tan wall tyres would of made it look even more stunning
... would've* - short for "would have" ! - made ... Should be obvious that "would of" makes absolutely no sense!
@@einundsiebenziger5488 Grammar Police....what does your comment have anything to do with the bike?
Pretty certain there is a chap who rides a Bianchi on the roads near to where I work.. Wonder what set up he's got..?? It's a lot of money for a bike, but you can see where the money is spent and it looks awesome.
what is your height and what is the size of the bike?
I am 6’3” and the bike is a 61cm 👍
How did you last 2 weeks without riding it!
Work, holiday and rain 😂
I am so slow - I only just realised you are Petrol Ped because you pedal a bike 🥺 - doh !
Great to see someone has the same ratios as me and is proud of it ! There are so many of the bits on your bike that I can agree make the difference- frame stiffness, tubeless comfort, great wheels and bearings - even if my rear hub wakes up the neighbours on a Sunday ! - they all add to the mix. 😎
Stunning bike, but perhaps better to the talking to camera when coasting downhill 😉😂😉
I wanted to be able to get out of the saddle…I regretted that decision 2 minutes into filming 😂😂😂
Just seen title Sunday Cycle PODCAST. I can answer the question in the title. It’s a ten percent racier better feel 8k-16k over a circa Ultegra 2.5k bike day Decathlon pre Covid prices . I own SLR Emonda 9000DA and German AX lightness. Isn’t over 6 kilo it’s epic and wasn’t too dear, kept build cheap-ish. Base was a 3k used bike and groupo and then 1500 for german wheels…. I also own ALR Alu Emonda on 105Shim and old 2k 2013 Bontrager wheels. The latter my winter bike rides 2kph slower due to winter tyres and heavier c.2 kilo. Winter bike feels rides plush supple still rides sporty amazing. The SLR rides super darty feels faster. Is faster. In real world they’re both ace. I love winter bike so it’s kinda pointless having a summer bike. Snappy / sharp / fun spritely / responsive is how I’d sum up summer bike. It really is so close now tho.
Thanks for this 👍
2 mph faster would be huge ! If I could get an uplift of 2mph on my averages then it would be £13k well spent. It certainly sounds fast. If it feels faster it probably will be. Reduced rolling resistance, a stiffer frame, with some improved aero must add up to some extra speed. The psychological effect of riding something that nice, must be worth an extra 10% 😁. I’m liking the new Ribble Ultra. I’m getting very tempted, your videos are not helping me resist
Hi Pete 🙏🙏
Hi 👋
Great bike, never had all that tec when I rode many moons ago. Perhaps you'd like to donate it to Geriant Thomas he had his bike nicked this morning outside a coffee shop in the South of France.
And the police returned it to him later that day.
No way. Didn’t know that 😮
Pretty decent, but not as comfortable as the RR Ghost you recently tested....
😂😂😂
Trying to talk and pedal up at hill at a good pace without sounding out of breath ... impossible ped !
I tried 😂😂😂
I don't know about anybody else, but I feel cheated, Pete rides in leg & arm warmers so we can't see his tarantula limbs & no record of him donning the lycra. 😉
That's the negatives out of the way, other than your aero bike has ROUND water bottles. C'mon mate, lift your game, or were they empty? 🤣
Now on with the good stuff that I picked up on.
Ceramic bearings throughout the complete drivetrain? 😳
The single lever electronic control shifts both front & rear derailleurs for PERFECT transition throughout the ratios. WHaaaaaat. And you want to know what gear you're in?
The tubeless tyres run at lower pressure, & in my opinion should contribute to a more comfortable ride, while also ACTUALLY lowering the rolling resistance. How good is that?
All control tubes & cabling are COMPLETELY invisible, unlike traditional inner tube cable routing. How much aero difference it makes is debatable, but it definitely looks stunning.
USB charging port, hopefully, USB C, accessed at a bar drop cap. Nice.
Your legs didn't splay when pedalling, full credit to Paul & the fit kit. 👍
Your arms have a nice slight, but aligned bend to them, again credit to Paul & the fit kit.
The front "compact" chainrings weigh fractionally less BUT mean the rear gear cassette can be smaller too, again giving a slight weight reduction.
Enough, I need another feast of Petrol Ped goodness. Catch you later.
I think we get the answer after 1 second of video here just looking at his hoodie. £13K is a 700% uplift of the actual cost so feel free paying for it people.
Name suggestion - NICOLETTA
Why?
B from Bianchi
O from Oltre
XR - obviously
equals
BOX_R
A bike always has to have a girls name, and the best recent female British boxer is Nicola Adams.
The Italian (because SHE is Italian) equivalent to Nicola is NICOLETTA.
You're welcome.
Love this but she’s already got a name…Bella. As in ciao Bella 😜
With that chainset you certainly need more excercise
I can't believe you don't have a power meter for that kind of money.
I don’t want to be consumed by the numbers 👍
It’s the same with cars would you rather drive a Mazda or Ferrari? :) simples
Where’s the Power meter??!!
It’s one of the best things I’ve bought for my bike. Riding to Power numbers is a game changer.
That bike 😍
Haven’t got one yet 😬😜
but have ridden one before, it is undoubtedly a beautiful bike
In light of COP 26 I think you've now invented another channel that could be called 'Pedal Ped' ☺
😂😂😂
A proper racing cyclist would never have the front ring changer and the rear derailleur mechanism working together. Coming towards a short hill it is more efficient and much less chance of losing your chain to just leave the big ring and just cross chain if nessassary until over the top, a racing cyclist has enough power with the large rear cassette range to not change the front derailleur usually, especially a time triallist. On longer ascents use the smaller chain ring if needed. All the aerodynamic benefits of this expensive bike can be trumped easily on a cheaper bike with clip on time trial bars. On that bike you look like a parachute collecting air as a recreational cyclist usually does.
Hello mate
Hi 👋
pls buy a powermeter ;-)... No cadans sh*t on the crank (that's soooo 1996 ;-)) The Oltre is one of the best bikes (geometry) pls stay on the right side of the road... 🙂.... gr Hans B&T Bikestore
I would only buy a power meter if I was training for an event based on my FTP, which as yet I’m not. Other wise it’s totally pointless 😜👍
13k for a bike Jesus h Christ
Was wondering why a cycling channel carries the word "petrol" in its name. Then, the words the presenter uses to describe the bicycle parts such as "gear changer" (which is usually known as the shift lever), explains that he obviously mostly deals with automotive matters.
This is a car channel that also loved bikes 👍
20 miles per hr average ,your be on the tour soon
Yay! No! Not the Lycra! 😂🤣😎👍 sounds like you need an oxygen tent ⛺️
😂😂😂
16:00; post coital zoom alert
😂😂😂
😂
$17,000 USD for a push bike? Bwahahahah.. Laughed so hard some pee came out.
You know you're wealthy when you can spend that on a deadly treadly.
Someone’s bike sounds awfull
Does a bike this expensive still crunch gears??