Razer Blade 16 vs Blade 18 - Maybe Size DOESN'T Matter
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- čas přidán 7. 05. 2024
- The Razer Blade 18 and Razer Blade 16 are two of the best gaming laptops you can buy in 2023 provided price doesn't matter. But do you gain anything from stepping up to a bigger gaming laptop? Is there more gaming performance? Better displays? Let's find out if the Blade 18's price even matters. So think of this as a Razer Blade 18 vs Razer Blade 16 review.
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0:00 - 2 Laptops! Same Specs!
0:32 - Blade 18 Design Overview
1:16 - Size Difference
2:08 - More Ports but....
2:43 - Sponsor Spot
3:15 - Blade 16 vs 18 Build Quality
4:13 - A MASSIVE Webcam Difference
5:39 - miniLED vs IPS Sceens
7:07 - Upgrade Options
7:47 - RIP your Wallet :(
9:16 - Battery Life….something is wrong…
10:26 - Blade 18 / 16 CPU Power, Temps & Noise
11:24 - Blade 18 / 16 GPU Power, Temps & Noise
12:50 - Real-World Benchmarks
14:33 - 1080p Gaming Results
15:34 - 1440p Gaming Results
16:14 - 4K Gaming Results
17:00 - AND the WINNER IS....
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It's not the size of the laptop, it's the motion of the airflow.
that's what she said........Wesley.
The problem is everyone knows the blades have a history of random glitches and hardware failures. Shoutout to when Linus bought them for his whole team and they were in a permanent cycle of RMAing those laptops. Thank god I was too poor to get suckered into that at the time
There's no such thing as flawless laptop. Anybody who used one for 5+ years should know that. Razer is no different and the price doesn't really change anything in this regard - you pay not just for specs, but the whole package (CNC aluminum chassis included).
I agree. I had the 2019 Blade 15, within a year I had a fan rattling like a WWII airplane and 2 months later the other one started doing it. Battery started to swell after a year. Never again. Very poorly thought out laptops. The first one I got used to rock on the table because the chassis wasn't straight.
@@gabeBucur ok, is there any other brand with CNC aluminum chassis that's better in terms of QC? Cause the only brand I've seen to get remotely close is Lenovo with Legion Slim 7.
@@bugbuster8598 that's the thing, the biggest selling point of the razerblades is that chassis, and couple it with that league of its own price tag and the frequent missteps Razer seems to make, for most people there's no value there all things considered.
@@anmol3457 ok, my question though was if there's any other brand or particular model that gets remotely close to it in terms of build quality. So, is there any?
I like that monitor config setup at 17m22s. Is that angled monitor on some sort of mount to make it angle like that?
Near-immaculate video - nice work! The 4080 Blade 16 definitely feels like the winner here; especially considering the disappointing 4070 Blade 14 performance and minimal 4090 Mobile uplift.
I'm planning to get a razer blade for college. Should I get the 15, 16, or 17?
Just a little bit of context, I have horrible eye sight and I am using a custom keyboard so that means the screen will be a little further away. I don't want the screen to be too small or too big.
I noticed the 16" had lower 1% lows. Great videio!
If I was to choose out of the 16” and 18” models ….. for me I’d go the 16” for portability and limited desk space utilisation 🥰😇👍
Got a bit confused with the color coding between the 16 and 18 being inverted from the real world benchmark section to the gaming results section.
The webcam and mic difference is insane :D
Very helpful, thanks!
is it possible to shut off e cores on these laptops?
when are you going to review the Deepcool Assassin 4?
I got the Razer blade 16, upgrading from the 15 and honestly I regret not going for the 18 as the 16 is the same dimensions as 15 and it already feels too small for me even for a mobile device.
The 18 is heavier but physically isn’t much bigger in my eyes.
I do find razer's screen configuration weird , you can't take much advantage of 4k on 16inch , that resolution makes more sense on the 18inch laptop since the screen is huge. Imo they should just stick to 1440p at 165hz mini led display upto 16inch maybe that will drop the prices by 200-300 usd while also giving us slightly better battery backup.
That's probably more on the display maker themselves. 18in is a really uncommon display size so the options on the market aren't very big. 16in is a far more common screen size today so their are more options and that's likely more the reason why. Also yes the Blade 16 does have a 1440p option which is 2560x1600 so you don't have to get the 4K MiniLED model
@@crestofhonor2349 makes sense then
I love reviews man your doing a good job I wanted ask can expect next year the dual mini LED display for a laptob like the lenovo legion pro 7i 4090 it would really be great
Can you do a review of legion slim 7i gen 8.
I have been looking for a gaming laptop to stream/make vidoes on but I dont have any knowledge of laptops. Any suggestions?
I'm really torn between getting the razer 16 with a 4080 or the HP Omen 16 that has a 4080 also. The bench marks are a little better in the Razer but the Omen costs £900 less right now. Plus I've heard a lot of bad things about Razer in terms of defects and customer service. But the Razer laptops look so good
The 16 inch is already pretty large, yet the 18 inch makes it look so small!
With the extra 2" of chassis space on the 18" I would have liked the power connection moved to the back < 50 dB noise (boost) & 12 to 15% improved gaming performance
Love your videos. You do a great job at explaining everything. And your videos are just rock solid good. I'm a content creator. Manly photos. I've used to game way more. But my 13 year old pc is just not cutting it anymore. Razer was one I was looking at a couple years ago.
where's the wallpaper from?
Hello and thank you for the outstanding review! I am looking for a 17 inch laptop that is light, reasonably powerful, and as quiet/cool as possible. I don't game, but I do photo and music editing. Ideally, there's a laptop whose silent mode hits the sweet spot. I am also open to fanless laptops, but I haven't found any bigger than 15 inch, and there's often a big performance drawback (except for the new Macbooks. But I am not an Apple fan.). I'd like a computer that doesn't have any performance hiccups as I load many webpages, office, and some photo and music editing, and can do the work very quietly and with low temps. I know I am asking for a lot... but I'd love any recommendations you may have. Thank you!
Hi, have you found it? I'm also looking for something similar.
@@navaga6701 Hi, I got Dell XPS 17. It's not light. But it's not too heavy. It has a nice, large screen (I got the mat, lower res display on purpose because I don't like reflections, I don't need touch, it saves battery, and I Don't like small user interface on 4k and think 4k is unnecessary even for pro photographers.). It's VERY quiet and cool under normal use. I have not heard the fans much at all. Keyboard is good but a bit stiff. Trackpad is too large and it registers my wrist input by mistake sometimes. Either that or the 2 and 3 finger swipe gestures sometimes have faults. But overall, nothing major. Swipe is still really great on Windows 11. You can program three finger swipe left and right to be back and forth in browsers, which is great too. Ports are good. Only Thunderbolt ports (USB-C type) (4 of them, all of which can charge the laptop). In summary, it's NOT a light laptop. It's more of a classy powerhouse that is not clunky like a gaming laptop. Battery life is good, but nothing like what MacBook pro 16 advertises (the Intel CPUs are not as efficient). But then I don't have to put up with anything Apple, which is a huge blessing for me. Love the onboard SD card reader. Hope this helps!
Razor 16 CPU temp runs really hot with boost mode it hits 100 degrees easily after gaming i see at least 4-5 cores hit the 100 degree maximum temp :(
Yeah that mini LED panel might be the best display ever put on a laptop ever, with the sacrifice of power efficiency of course.
Can you guys make a video about best usb headset under 100dolar?
Love my Razer Blade 18 RTX4090. I have had it since launch. Did the 3-year warranty. Undervolting helped a bunch. No regrets.
Can you instruct how to undervolt coz my runs hotter now.
Yea just use throttle stop. Quick google will help.@@setiop6788
I have a 2022 Blade 17 3080ti and the "wasd" gets really hot while gaming. Does this Blade 16 have this same problem?
I have the 15inch 2020 advance and sometimes when iam pushing the laptop in some games , the metal lines in the middle of the keyboard around the G or H gets very Hot if u touch it ( though not the keys them selves)
I think by repasting the gpu/cpu and increasing the fan speed u may get it cooler
Also consider reducing the gaming frame rate to somthing more reasonable to avoid putting to much stress in the gpu , if u are paranoid about battery health and etc...
How are these as work laptops for all general uses as well as photo and video editing?
Insanely good.
It’s like the most powerful laptop in existence so yeah it’ll do really well for anything
Absolutely baffling that they dont use a full-size keyboard. On the 18 there's a massive bezel around the keyboard, they could even have a numpad.
When i bought my 17" Toshiba laptop back in like 2003 it had a proper keyboard (with a numpad even) with fullsize arrow keys
Alienware is guilty of the same practice. They don't put a full keyboard with number pad on those laptops either. Not sure why as they have the space
@@crestofhonor2349they do on their new m18
then buy legion laptops
@@crestofhonor2349 Alienware has a full sized keyboard on their new M18
I think it's for aesthetic purposes. They're like the "Apple Design for Windows", but yeah they should've gone for the numpad due to it's huge size.
Does anybody know the name of the BGM at 12:20 ??
Guys another perfect explanation and comparison of two really nice laptops! Thanks! 😎👍
Practicality and personally I'll pick the 16.
why you havent show close one by one in video? Size matter, because im thinking about 17,3 and 18 laptop
I'll bet the privacy shutter is missing on the Blade 18 becuase the bigger camera is just slightly 'deeper' and so doesn't quite allow space for it...
I wish you would use newer games as benchmarks. Getting 600+ FPS for some of the games benchmarked is laughable. What we really want to know is what can these laptops squeeze out of Cyberpunk 2077 with Path Tracing and RR? How does Alan Wake 2 stack up with its Path Tracing. Using games released 5 years ago as a "benchmark" for a laptop released today doesn't really answer these questions. A good example is Jedi Fallen Order. That game is old man. You *should* be using Jedi Survivor as a benchmark. Just like games/hardware today, reviewers seem stuck in the past. It's time to jettison older titles for benchmarks and start using new tech. Or at least including new tech. Great video none the less.
looking forward to 27" laptops
You should done the blade 14 too
Mercury White looks soooooo damn good! Wish more gaming brands went that "Macbook style" route. As of today, the only brand that gets remotely close in terms of design and build quality is Lenovo with their Legion Slim series.
Gaming laptop companies are being too safe with their laptop designs Asus' Strix laptops being the exception. They need to be more creative with their designs and colors.
@@niko1even if by "more creative" you mean more RGB stripes and wacky printing on palmrest then I say loud "fuck no!".
@@bugbuster8598 nope, I only mentioned the Strix series because the way they molded the plastics on it is extremely creative. Sure it may seem like it's all "RGB stripes and wacky printing," but the engineering behind all the plastic molding is just extremely cool. It's something that when you look at, you immediately recognize as a strix laptop. What I mean by creative is adding those sort of unique twists to designs.
You remember the XPS 13 plus with its futuristic design? That's the sort of uniqueness I'm looking for.
@@niko1even ok, you got me with that XPS 13 line hah
Too bad they nerfed the Legion Pro 7 compared to last year's Legion 7... And the Blade 14 with an RTX 4080 would have been perfect, however, it doesn't exist yet...
Forget the laptop reviews.........ad placement was smooooooooooth
As a 13 inch MacBook air owner, I can 100% confirm that size matters...
Especially when you need to fit source code on your screen.
Yes I have a MacBook don't shame me I needed something completely silent and decently fast...
Who invited macbook user?
@@william58215 Who invited an imbecil only to complain about Apple?
"Does laptop screen size matter?" Not if I'm using assistive technology such as a screen reader just to browse the Internet, but I would still prefer a desktop. Even with a magnifier, laptops hurt my back since the screen is too far away from me. That is, unless I put a laptop into tablet mode, put it on top of the foldable table stand, put my mouse and keyboard beneath the stand, and then use my laptop as a desktop. Yes, this defeats portability, but turning a laptop into a desktop with a foldable table and keyboard/mouse helps with my visual disability.
Currently, I use my LG 42" C2 TV as my PC monitor that is attached to the VESA arm. My monitor is in front and top of the keyboard and mouse. But if only there's an electric standing desk with a depth of 16" or less. 12" from front to back would be nice for me as I have a monitor arm with 2 USB ports and the USB ports are too far back for me.
After owning the Blade 18 and 16 side by side I returned the 18. While the 18 was larger and I liked the larger display size, the 18 panel just couldn’t compare to the mini led in the 16. The blacks were horribly muted on the 18. Also the 16 has great HDR support as well.
Welcome to mini LED vs IPS.
I have an Asus M16 Zephyrus with a mini-LED, and couldn't imagine downgrading the screen.
I'll take a 18" 240 hz mini-LED any day though -- or in the future, 240 hz OLED.
18" is probably the ideal hardcore gaming desktop replacement for a tax-optimizing semi-nomad like myself.
The M16 Zephyrus' 16" is feeling OK, but it's such a size downgrade from the 27" desktop monitor I am accustomed to, so 18" should be much more acceptable.
That said, I could just put the laptop in tent mode and bring my desktop 27" Asus AQDM OLED without the stand. Considering doing that in the future when relocating.
Still tho, a 18" obviously has better cooling and that would be quite handy.
Perhaps I will pick up a 18" in 2024-2025 with a 5090 GPU and great cooling.
Budget R.I.P.
I’m
On the same
Boat. I have a blade 18 4090 since launch and just ordered the Lamborghini model 16. Unsure which I will keep.
I like the real estate of larger screen as it gives you more immersive gaming experience but the mini led sure does look nice. I remember testing both models and remembering the 16 having trouble pushing out 4K gaming at decent FPS.
hey, i just wanted to ask you how has your experience been with the blade 16, as for my first gaming laptop i too am looking for a really good option, i just wanna know did you face any issues with you blade 16 and if so what were they, i really like the blade 16 and wanna but the i9, 4080 combo so yea.
2024 Blade 18 has MiniLED option now and 4K
It’s hard to keep up why do they switch the colors 😭 14:54
Yes the size does matter. The Blade 18 is not there for people who want more performance, it is for people that need a bigger screen. Even if the performance was actually lower than the Blade 16, there are a group of people who the screen size is more of a priority. A bigger screen is more immersive and in games where that matters often the frame rates and resolution is already adequate. The webcam is an important upgrade for gaming while interacting with other players online that is why this doesn't mess around with a privacy shutter.
is the:
Blade 18
i9-13980HX
64GB DDR5 RAM
2TB Storage
RTX 4090
QHD+ 240Hz 18" Screen
The best powerful laptop on the planet to date?
In terms of reliability would you go for Alienware, Razer Blade, or Asus ROG Zephyrus?
Definitely the rog
Asus for sure
You should do a comparison of Zephyrus M16 and Razer 16. Especially the screens, considering both have mini LEDs and have 4090s
We need a Razer Blade 14 vs 16 review.
Sounds like out of these two the 16" with 4080 is the way to go.
Razer laptops fascinate me. They cost around $1000 more for same specs compared to most other brands, yet they still manage to sell product.
A Salt Bae tomahawk steak cost $1000 yet people still pay to eat that. And it literally becomes sh¡t the next day. Never be afraid to charge more because there will always be people buying. Nvidia seems to have been taking notes from Razer now
If the 18 had the same panel tech as the 16 I would be all over it. As is I think I am skipping this gen in favor of holding on to my razer 17 3080ti.
why does razer charge so much for the hardware? it seems other laptop companies have more reasonable price jumps as you go from 4070-4080-4090.. razer is charging more for the jump from a 4070 to 4080 then an entire desktop 4080 card costs
Eber didnt mention razers famous battery bloat issue. I think this is not a good buy for normal consumers.
They fixed that issue a while ago and they have a 2 year battery replacement warranty
Aside of 2 year battery warranty, batteries are easy to replace. I'd worry more about stuff I cannot replace myself.
@@RadaSmada What do you mean by 'they' ? Only thing 'they' could do is to change the supplier, if this aging is inherend to puch-tech-'cell' then what they 'fixed' is added a 80% charging limiter.
He did a Linus at 2:40
I feel like people who can afford these ultra-premium hardware can definitely invest in a good monitor too. I definitely won't mind the extra cables and dongles.
it's related to the portability, not the utility
Can someone please answer this for me? because no one ever seems to want to talk about it. I’m willing to shell out for the 18 inch why in the hell am I being saddled with the inferior screen at higher cost Razer, Alienware and asus all do this and for the life of me I cannot figure it out and it baffles the hell out of me
Probably there is no one producing the 18" mini-LED screen yet. You do know they source it elswhere? And you do know that they 'requested' volume is pathetic considering how screen manufacturer has to change 'cutting ratio' just for small batch?
$5000 and still doesn't come with 4TB SSD?
Where...is...the...Zephyrus G14 review!
Well built chassis won't compensate for lack on battery that aren't reliable
There's like two to three gaming laptop models with good battery life and none of them game well on battery.
@@bugbuster8598 that is not the issue, you won't play on battery, is that many people have reported swollen batteries
@@fejotore 1. This issue is not exclusive to Razer laptops. My AERO 15X got swollen battery after two years. Same story with any other issues and other brands.
2. Negative comments or reviews will always be more common than positive ones for obvious reasons - if everything works just fine, people won't waste time writing reviews on Reddit.
3. Battery can be easily replaced. Personally, I'd worry about internals I can't replace myself.
The biggest difference with the 4080 and the 4090 is the temperature. The 4090 is on average about 7 degrees celsius cooler than the 4080, which is quite significant.
the mic on the blade 18 is so much better then the 16
This guy complaining 3kg is heavy for a laptop and calling it a desktop replacement, a true desktop replacement would be the 18 inch monsters of the past from Alienware and Clevo
Yes
It seems like the 16 is the no brainer winner. Too many sacrifices for 2 extra inches.
I wish my ex girlfriend realized this
The Mercury (white) option cost a whopping $1200 extra! not justifiable.
Not true. I just configured a B16 w/ the 4080 and Mercury white is only an extra $300. What you probably saw was a pre-configured or auto-configured version w/ the white that bumped up the price that much but there were other upgrades as well
Excellent comparative analysis of the Razer Blade 16 and 18.The only problem was the omission of the poor QA and QC that Razer has historically with their laptops.
Ain't paying 2k plus for a 4060 laptop
That's business or coach(economy) class. These are really easy questions. lol
I had the 18 inch a year now and I am already moving back to my MSI 18 the keyboard is terrible
To be honest in my opinion blade 16 is better because it has better display, maybe it is smaller than blades 18 but I rather 16 because its miniled and also it will fit in your backpack not like blade 18. They also pack the same performance so blade 16 is better
Agaaaain. Size mattersssssss
The deal breaker for me is the lack of number pad. Come on, Razer! There's plenty of room. No excuse!
Wonder if Eber did experience any of the issues the wide community that early adopted this laptops has. Wonky MiniLED (flickering, not turning on when on certain mode, scaling), the ghost trackpad and some other bugs. I dont know if i got scared with all the horror stories on Razer’s reddit about reliability and bad customer support, but this time. i would just get a MBP 16 as a laptop and stick to desktops for gaming.
It's social media effect - negative feedback will always be more common than positive one. It's obvious people enjoying their time with a laptop won't waste their time to share their thoughts on it on Reddit or any other platform.
4 inch is enough, IF that can LAST LONGER .
Size doesn’t matter
Unless it’s too small
Its how you use it 👑 king
"Size does not matter" but price does😂
Has anyone tried these for machine learning purposes?
No, but a 4070 Desktop. Accordingly, I think that RTX 4000 is fast and efficient for machine learning. You just need to install the right combination of driver and Nvidia libraries (CUDA, CuDNN, TensorRT) in suitable versions for your software. Some combinations of libraries work, others don't. Some are 5.3 times faster than others. So trial and error on the installation may be needed. --robert jasiek
see..!! how impactful 2inchs iz 🗿
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Speakers are better on the Blade 18 also
Sometimes being poor and cheap saves me a lot of time. I can skip to the part talking about price, see I ain't EVER gonna buy one, like the vid and move on
now with the m2 and apple's new game port engine... this 5k laptop is almost a rip off. right now, razor needs to cut the price in 1/2.. even then i would recommend getting the m2 max
Nah this is still far better for gaming than the M2 Max is. GPTK isn't perfect and performance isn't the best in many games. Plus most multiplayer games don't work because of anti cheat. Still way too expensive
Do you think the mac can even come close....let alone provide a satisfactory experience for gaming😂
No. Game Port Engine and M2 chips mean literally nothing until higher-ups at Apple finally realize gaming can be profitable. It's the whole "Apple culture" that holds them back, not hardware or software.
$3800 dollars lol what a scam
Nice laptops but too overpriced and they overheat
Asus rog strix scar 18(2024) 1100 nits)
Blade 18
razer blade 16 is the best
no numpad and 16:10. i hate it.
Can you please stop using the goddamn inches for indicating the size? So annoying, just use what the whole world is comfortable with: centimeters. Other than that a lot of very useful information! I wonder if silent mode means that the fans stop at least when youtubing on battery or is it not the case?
a huge miss putting these front speakers, shoulda used the extra space to put a full size keyboard. Without a full keyboard it wont be a true destop replacement, sadly.
4080 not 4090
Those fingerprints are horrendous 🤢
My ex girlfriend said size matters
Honestly the Blade 18 is like the most portable thin and light desktop replacement atm. Still, it's your money so anything goes 🤷🏻♂️.
So Blade 18 is the one with less portability, worse display, smaller battery, basically no performance advantage and higher price.
Damn, it must be a tough decision! No? 😅
The Zephyrus M16 performs very low. Although very misleading set of games, some abobe 400 fps, not convinced even in CSGo it may matter
The Zephyrus is still 'fast enough' more than likely and a more manageable MacBook Pro 16 weight
It’s usually only about 10-15% behind the Blade 16 at least in my tests
These are more expensive than my Dell Workstations…
Windows Laptops still have a lot to go to catch up with the MacBook Pro’s
Not really. They have different use cases
Wake me up when I'll finally be able to play any game on MacBook at stable 60+ framerate.
@@bugbuster8598macbook is the best laptop for gaming
@william58215 Says nobody ever.
@@william58215 you joking, right?
Razer? Lol no thanks. They have the worst quality control out there. Doesn't matter how well it looks on the outside. Its on the inside where they are built like trash. That's why they put a fan on the battery hoping it won't bloat. And their software is pure garbage