RTX 4080 vs RTX 4090 - Is RTX 4090 Laptop Worth More $$$?

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    RTX 4080 vs 4090 Gaming Laptop Comparison Timestamps:
    0:00 RTX 4080 or 4090 Graphics?
    0:21 Video Sponsor - Gigabyte
    0:58 GPU Spec Differences
    1:31 GPU Power Limits
    1:47 Power Scaling - 3DMark Time Spy
    2:17 Laptops Tested
    2:28 Battery Life Difference
    2:37 Power Draw Difference
    2:48 Performance Per Watt (Best Efficiency)
    3:00 Temperature Difference
    3:19 Clock Speed Difference
    3:26 25 Games Compared at 4K, 1440p & 1080p
    3:30 Cyberpunk 2077
    4:00 Apex Legends
    4:20 4090 Not Always Better? Microsoft Flight Simulator
    4:47 Another Strange Result - Far Cry 6
    5:02 Dying Light 2
    5:17 God of War - More Weirdness
    5:36 Hogwarts Legacy
    5:58 The Witcher 3 Next Gen + RT
    6:24 A Plague Tale: Requiem
    6:35 Control - Very GPU Heavy
    6:54 15 More Games Compared!
    7:27 1080p Average Difference
    7:53 1440p Average Difference
    8:15 4K Average Difference
    8:28 25 Game Average
    8:50 4090 Not Always The Best?
    9:04 Price Difference & Laptop Sales
    10:25 Cost Per Frame (Best Value)
    10:44 Is RTX 4090 Worth More Money?
    11:23 12GB vs 16GB VRAM Difference
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  • @ilhanbayramoglu2811
    @ilhanbayramoglu2811 Před 11 měsíci +564

    4080 laptop is basically matching my 300w undervolted/underclocked 3080ti. Awesome efficiency improvements but nvidia is greedy, so its sad.

    • @fourtysevenak
      @fourtysevenak Před 11 měsíci +35

      Yep ! the same there ,my Xmg Neo16 with 4080 performs on same level like my Desktop 12600K and 3080Ti :)

    • @Smart_boy2001
      @Smart_boy2001 Před 11 měsíci +24

      Unfortunately AMD left the laptop techs

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal Před 11 měsíci +11

      It is 4070Ti-ish afterall on desktop

    • @rob465
      @rob465 Před 11 měsíci +19

      Tried 4080 Razer 16' was not performing near my 3080ti desktop. However, my 4090 Legion 7 Pro is lapping my PC.

    • @one_step_sideways
      @one_step_sideways Před 11 měsíci +9

      Simply goes to show how garbage and inefficient Samsung's 8nm process was

  • @JoshCravesTech
    @JoshCravesTech Před 11 měsíci +362

    With how sad the 4060/4070 performance is in comparison, it seems pretty clear that while the 4080 is still pretty expensive, it definitely offers the most bang for your buck this generation.

    • @sunnyjiang6245
      @sunnyjiang6245 Před 11 měsíci +22

      Yes, but the price difference is also huge

    • @salzstange6341
      @salzstange6341 Před 11 měsíci +12

      Expensive af but I took it and got the XMG neo 16. it’s awesome

    • @JoshCravesTech
      @JoshCravesTech Před 11 měsíci +20

      @@sunnyjiang6245 yeah it’s annoying. I just hope next generation there’s a 4070 Ti that bridges that gap between performance and price

    • @jako997
      @jako997 Před 11 měsíci +16

      True but I think it depends tbh. For instance, if buy a laptop with a 4070 but only game at 1080p, then it's worth it tbh. But if you want to go 1440p and 4k then yes the 4060 and 4070 are useless. Better go for 4080 at that point. 4090 is honestly a ripoff if anything

    • @bhold7197
      @bhold7197 Před 11 měsíci +6

      i mean you can buy 4080 laptops for 2200 to 2500 dollars that is actually less than some of the more expensive 4070 laptops and isn't that much more than some of the cheapest 4070 laptops.

  • @tateetilytum
    @tateetilytum Před 6 měsíci +1

    Wow. Cazy amount of detail put into this. Thanks for all the info.

  • @Beelzebubz24
    @Beelzebubz24 Před 11 měsíci +71

    Got a 4080 Legion and it's been running like a dream. The big thing here is that I didn't see any games where the 4090 really made a playable difference, so imo not worth the price bump of an entire new console unless you're using it as a workstation too. Once my 4080 starts showing its age in the coming years I'd probably be happier getting a new machine with the latest and greatest mobile CPU and 16+ gb card rather than hanging on to a several year old machine with a 4090m.
    We'll see how much the extra 4gigs of VRAM matter in the coming years I suppose ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @cypress2647
      @cypress2647 Před 10 měsíci +8

      u made the right choice 👍
      my guess is you wont notice anything sub-optimal until 2028 and even then it will be fine for a while longer until u choose to upgrade

    • @lukenfoci
      @lukenfoci Před 8 měsíci +4

      I enjoy my 4080 Legion as well - coul dnot justify extra £650 for 4090... It wa smore than a third of what I paid for my laptop.

    • @Jona-gs7ye
      @Jona-gs7ye Před 4 měsíci

      Hi, I want to buy this Laptop too (if it’s the legion 7 Pro)
      But do you have the Intel or the Amd version?

    • @Beelzebubz24
      @Beelzebubz24 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Jona-gs7ye Intel version. Been running games at Ultra at 1440p with no problems, can recommend. Laptop was very good to me over the holidays :D

    • @MrCougar1825
      @MrCougar1825 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Nightngale already using 11.5 to 12gb of vram and the 4080 isn’t a year old yet that’s why I picked the 4090 both are great but Nvidia are scam artist they know what there doing

  • @rohanj6362
    @rohanj6362 Před 11 měsíci +34

    Amazing review!!! Best one to date. The highlights on each bar graph and the pacing and amount of testing is great. Good accessibility also. I was waiting for this review also between these two mobile GPUs. Recently had to send my Lenovo 4080 to be fixed as it’s thermal throttling on just high settings, 1440 on balanced.

  • @mykytavlasov291
    @mykytavlasov291 Před 11 měsíci

    Just looking for this type of vid few hour ago, thx!

  • @HolloVVpoint
    @HolloVVpoint Před 11 měsíci +75

    Happy with the blade 16 with the 4080 getting about the same performance as my previous 3090 pc. Not sure why people hate on laptop gaming, it’s come so far and is genuinely a legit alternative if you want to go that way.

    • @ToxicatedSins
      @ToxicatedSins Před 11 měsíci +19

      Oldschoolers will always hate new stuff. Same in the cars. Same as painters hated photoshop, now photoshopers hate ai generated images... I love how laptops reached awesome results and it is time to jump from desktop to laptop portability

    • @Jeckaa84
      @Jeckaa84 Před 10 měsíci +5

      Because the haters can’t afford stuff like this. It’s hate out of jealousy.

    • @warrenlee6847
      @warrenlee6847 Před 6 měsíci

      would u have likes to get the 4090 mini led version if u could? i cant decide which to get?

    • @isakferm7674
      @isakferm7674 Před 5 měsíci

      @@ToxicatedSins old things = good, new things = bad. Seeing this mentality in 99% of all people sadly. It's an idea in psychology that people view things in their youth more favourably. Just robot behaviour.

    • @ToxicatedSins
      @ToxicatedSins Před 5 měsíci +3

      Btw got a laptop 4070, never been happier after getting a gadget. Always loved desktops and been assembling them since old good pentium II times. But I dont want to be locked on the desk again after work and I lack a dedicated space. If these factors werent here I wouldnt try it and wouldnt find out how awesome lenovo legion is. I enjoy gaming on it every time and it is an awesome time to live from the technology perspective.

  • @CarnivoryHODL
    @CarnivoryHODL Před 11 měsíci +40

    4080’s where it’s at price to performance-wise

  • @HoodHussler
    @HoodHussler Před 11 měsíci +50

    I thought the difference in performance was at least going to be 20% in 1440p but what a disappointment plus it’s way more expensive than the 4080

    • @1415gatewayable
      @1415gatewayable Před 11 měsíci +4

      Not all laptops are the same and he seems to have a problem with that laptop with the 4090 it's still way better than the 4080 in my opinion for what I wanted for

    • @HoodHussler
      @HoodHussler Před 11 měsíci

      @@1415gatewayable maybe I need to check the Asus Scar 18 or the Alienware m18

  • @ElBandito_Gaming
    @ElBandito_Gaming Před 11 měsíci +35

    Hi Jarrod! Your videos saved me a lot of money so far! (Still rocking the HP OMEN 15 2020 - "cold as ice") Thanks for your work!

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Před 11 měsíci +2

      Glad to help!

    • @MadanSingh-pe7ku
      @MadanSingh-pe7ku Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@JarrodsTechSir please suggest me whether i should buy a 3070ti with 150 watt tgp or 4050 with 140w tgp
      Please help sir
      Huge Fan

    • @ElBandito_Gaming
      @ElBandito_Gaming Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@MadanSingh-pe7ku 3070ti 150W for sure if you do not need the DLSS3.

    • @derikbarbieri8753
      @derikbarbieri8753 Před 11 měsíci

      @@MadanSingh-pe7ku3070ti if you don’t have a huge desire for frame gen or DLSS3 like he said. 3070ti will outperform in most circumstances at full TGP

    • @user-lt1bi3en7l
      @user-lt1bi3en7l Před 9 měsíci

      @@MadanSingh-pe7ku Берите 3070ti, она лучше во всем! Я очень сомневаюсь, что 4050 с DLLS3 вытащит в 2К игры, лучше чем 3070ti! 4050 (140w) замена 3060 (140w), если 4050 будет ниже 140w, то 3060(140w) уделает 4050! 4050(140w) хорошо подойдёт для FHD игр, 3070ti (150w) для 2К! На этом же канале есть сравнение 4070&3070ti, так вот в 1% прирост в сторону 4070, это полная шляпа! Конкурент 3070ti это 3080ti и то 15-20%! И значительный прирост 4080 и Всё!!! Через 2года перейдёте на 4080 и будет Вам счастья. Ноутбуки подешевеют. Так как будет линейки с 50серии. Или 4060(140w) для FHD в большенстве случаи и DLLS3 для 2К в некоторых!

  • @aaz1992
    @aaz1992 Před 11 měsíci +60

    I upgraded from a 3080 laptop to the Aorus 17H with the 4080. It was on sale for just $1990. What an amazing package! The 4090 laptops made no sense as they were all at least $1000 more

    • @Cenot4ph
      @Cenot4ph Před 10 měsíci +3

      no, they're about 500 bucks more expensive on the whole

    • @aaz1992
      @aaz1992 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@Cenot4ph That was back in March. The sales now are more attractive for sure

    • @TrashFilter
      @TrashFilter Před 9 měsíci

      @@aaz1992Bro, I even saw someone selling legion 7 pro rtx 4090 on ebay for about 1530 euros and it was like new. Craziest deal I have ever seen.

    • @joshuam4993
      @joshuam4993 Před 6 měsíci

      I got mine for 2199. You think that's alright?

    • @aaz1992
      @aaz1992 Před 6 měsíci

      @@joshuam4993 yeah! Enjoy it

  • @mohammedakeel7189
    @mohammedakeel7189 Před 11 měsíci +19

    It's either the 4060 or the 4080 for this gen of gaming laptops. The 4050, 4070 and the 4090 are way too expensive for what they offer on the table.

    • @southlondontransport
      @southlondontransport Před 3 měsíci +1

      I have to agree with you on that but personally speaking the RTX 4050 has come down in price its just that its a little impractical with it's 6GB of VRAM.

  • @parabellum8506
    @parabellum8506 Před 3 měsíci

    Been watching your channel for years. Thank you for the years of valuable info! 🙏

  • @greebj
    @greebj Před 11 měsíci +12

    FYI.
    Legion 7i Pro is a +$1300 AUD upgrade from 4080 (~$4K discounted) to 4090 on a custom build, which is insane.
    There is also the recently released Eluktronics 16" Prometheus which is the chassis as the Mech 16 GP2 (which is the same Uniwill/Tongfang chassis in the XMG), minus a few features and about $500 USD off the price, with 51M-ish white styling

  • @Diablokiller999
    @Diablokiller999 Před 11 měsíci +7

    3:00 it's all physics, since Powerconsumption of transistors = frequency * Voltage² + C.
    So higher frequency at the same voltage leads to more powerconsumption, hence the 4080 draws more power in general for the same task, while the 4090 can spread the workload on more units that run slower.
    And that's why undervolting a tiny bit gives you huge boosts in temperature, noise and longer boost durations, since it's squared in the equation. Hope all people reading this consider to slightly undervolt their GPUs - I reduced my mobile 3080 to 925mV @ 1900MHz and reach desktop clocks with 100W less power consumption than the desktop chip of my card (3070 Ti) at nearly the performance for just 1hr of work.

  • @RayZ_channel
    @RayZ_channel Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks for your efforts. very useful.

  • @TabalugaDragon
    @TabalugaDragon Před 11 měsíci +46

    The difference in 4k is smaller than I expected given more cores and wider memory bus. Thanks for the video!

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal Před 11 měsíci +1

      not enough power

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@GewelReal 4080m doesn't consume that much more power than 4070m, and yet it's MUCH faster.

    • @aspeartrevis6306
      @aspeartrevis6306 Před 11 měsíci +2

      CUDA cores in graphics cards are beneficial for specific work tasks, but they are unrelated to gaming. Having 16GB of video memory requires more power than having 12GB. As a result, there is less power available for the actual chip, which can result in a loss of performance.

    • @Cenot4ph
      @Cenot4ph Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@aspeartrevis6306that's already been acounted for with lower clock speeds, other than that the power draw between 12gb and 16gb for the complete package isn't that large

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@aspeartrevis6306 wait, what do you mean they are unrelated to gaming? then what actually drives gaming performance? And if they are so niche, why include so many if them and in every GPU? It makes no sense. Wouldn't Nvidia destroy the competition in gaming if they included more the whatever cores that are important for gaming instead of Cuda? Cuda cores gotta take a lot of space on a GPU.
      And as Jarrod's tech already compared, 4090M is more energy efficient than 4080M. So, while vRAM does take some energy, it's not much.

  • @linhentus7327
    @linhentus7327 Před 11 měsíci +100

    At this point, I can surely state that this 40 series generation is basically a test from Nvidia to see if they can get more money by selling upper high end graphics cards with better price/performance than their lesser low end cards with significant price bumps. If people keep buying their higher end due to p/p number then they just started a new trend and soon will become a new norms for the market. All of their low and mid tier cards now can only be described as decoys. And the number doesn’t have to be a huge hit for them to execute this plan. All they need is a stable enough number and they’ll keep doing it and telling other gaming developers to increase their graphic requirements every year to match their high end cards so that you’ll have to purchase it just to get a 60 fps experience.

    • @ogmogly8118
      @ogmogly8118 Před 10 měsíci +21

      Game developers can’t do that because they have to meet minimum console requirements, and developers have zero incentive to make games that are less accessible to people, because they need to actually sell those games.

    • @mobgamerred8555
      @mobgamerred8555 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@ogmogly8118 agreed

  • @TheMacco26
    @TheMacco26 Před 11 měsíci +8

    Did you eventually test those two configs with their active cooling on? I wonder if the heat spread from the RTX4090 and the CPU could be removed fast enough that way not to throttle the former in those 1080p / 1440p scenarios where the RTX4080 were winning..

  • @goku6986
    @goku6986 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Hi @jarrod, as always great video, can you please make similar video for 4070 vs 4080 also. Will be more clear to decide.

  • @tekeagle2136
    @tekeagle2136 Před 11 měsíci +50

    In my opinion, 4090 is not worth it unless you need the extra vram. Then again, 12 vs 16 is not as much as a difference than 8 vs 16 with the 3080 laptop and 3080ti laptop.
    Edit: When I bought my Lenovo Legion 7i Gen 7 3080ti during Black Friday 2022 for $3050, I wasn't expecting that the price of the 4090 Lenovo Legion to be $3200 when on sale; the 4090 laptops were rumored to be at least $4000. I am still happy with the one I got.
    The 16gb VRAM is helpful when running complex 3D animations in Blender and Star Wars Battlefront II (which uses 13gb of VRAM). Runs all games I play at 60fps at maximum settings, but does struggle to run Horizon Zero Dawn at 120fps.

    • @unionofslavstanrepublics2317
      @unionofslavstanrepublics2317 Před 11 měsíci +8

      Don't forget the 16 GB RTX 3080 mobile either!

    • @sownlengoc
      @sownlengoc Před 11 měsíci +2

      rtx3080 and rtx3080ti is a huge different cuz rtx3080ti has ad103 codename, rtx3080 has ad104 codename like rtx3060ti/3070

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 Před 11 měsíci +3

      That being said, as more gamers become vRAM limited, it can be better for 4k and even 1440p in the future. And some professional applications that use CUDA need LOADS of vRAM.

    • @lsp6032
      @lsp6032 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Bought a 4090 laptop due to having to run multiple android emulators(for farming in a gacha game) and a demanding game at the same time, those emulators combined would eat up multiple GBs of VRAM, 4080m with 12gb may not able to handle such load without causing performance problems in the games I play when I run both at the same time.

    • @lsp6032
      @lsp6032 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I had chosen legion pro 7i with 4090 during the EOFY sale, especially since it was cheaper or at least have similar proce than many 4080 laptops(scar 18 with 4080 and ge78 with 4080 are the examples)

  • @petrkupka2372
    @petrkupka2372 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I like what you are doing, those comparisons are really helpful, I am only missing OLED Gaming. It is nice to have FPS, but if the picture/game looks shitty...the best would be to take the Zephyrus G14s - ROG and PRO with 4070, they both have amazing screens, but each is different and might have a diff. perf. due to diff. cooling systems.

  • @cargo4067
    @cargo4067 Před 3 měsíci

    Love the Amon Amarth shirt. Great taste!

  • @ramakrishnamishra8179
    @ramakrishnamishra8179 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Was waiting for this

  • @andreabassi5012
    @andreabassi5012 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Hi Jarrod, thank you for your invaluable work. Could you do laptop gpu comparison: 3070 vs 4070 and also 4050 vs 4070. Thanks, good job!

  • @harpxeal3869
    @harpxeal3869 Před 11 měsíci

    Hi Jarrod, love the videos. Are you planning on reviewing the lenovo legion slim 5i anytime soon? Been looking at the i7 + RTX 4060 model but was holding out for a review video before i made the decision.

  • @danielwallace9153
    @danielwallace9153 Před 11 měsíci +5

    The price percentage increase against performance percentage increase comparison doesn't work for laptops since the total price of a laptop encompasses many things which do not directly affect performance

  • @afmedwards
    @afmedwards Před 11 měsíci

    Good video thanks. Any plans for Dell m18 r1 review please?

  • @dsamurai3585
    @dsamurai3585 Před 11 měsíci +5

    It's a pity i had to do this piecemeal by myself when i was buying my legion 4080. Glad i made the right choice. Thanks Jarrod.

  • @marius2361
    @marius2361 Před 11 měsíci +9

    You mean is the 4080M is better than the 4070M? Because that is what those GPUs should be called.

  • @EncikBeruang8698
    @EncikBeruang8698 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Hi Jarrod, can you do a review on Acer predator 18 with RTX 4080? the pricing is so tempting. but would love to see how is the performance compared to others. Would appreciate if you are able to do a review on this laptop. Thanks!

  • @howiepince3910
    @howiepince3910 Před 7 měsíci +10

    I went from a Alienware r5 with a 3070 to a x16 with a 4080 and are pushing nearly twice the frame rates overall. Keep in mind the gap in time was only 1 year in the models. Glad I seen this video and see that a upgrade to the 4090 from a 4080 just isnt worth the cost for 90% of gamers. Loving this new x16 that I bought on marketplace being only a couple months old with a full warranty for $1900! Games even at 5120x1440 on my Samsung G9 ultrawide place smooth as glass!

    • @hab1b1
      @hab1b1 Před 6 měsíci +1

      can you link me to exactly what you bought?

    • @Demour77
      @Demour77 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Would love to hear what store you found it at : )?

    • @joffy9373
      @joffy9373 Před 4 měsíci

      On a scale from 1-10, how happy are you with it? what are the cons fo far? I am so torn between picking the x16 for a sleeker and smaller laptop or the scar 18 which seems to "have it all". Honestly the beiggest complaint I hear is the screen, is it that bad?

    • @hab1b1
      @hab1b1 Před 4 měsíci

      i know someone who got the 4080 alienware m version, works great@@joffy9373

  • @ravta_ette6192
    @ravta_ette6192 Před 8 měsíci +8

    I really love your reviews. But it would be even more amazing if more videos focused more on real time render tests with various software for the creators as well ,since nowadays even an RTX 4050 or 4060 can let anyone game comfortably 😔😪😢.

  • @Flip89
    @Flip89 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Do you think the lenovo pro 7i is worth it with the 4090 or should i just get the 4080 model or a completely different laptop

  • @Krenisphia
    @Krenisphia Před 5 měsíci +1

    Both of these laptops crushes my full desktop rig from 3 years ago.

  • @MattGadi
    @MattGadi Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks for this comparison! I have a question, do you think the 4GB memory difference is worth the expense for durability in the future? I am asking because I have a laptop with 4070 and 8GB memory and I want to upgrade because I always get memory bottleneck playing at 4K,
    Thanks

  • @tkirk3660
    @tkirk3660 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I'm upgrading, currently have a 3060, main reason is to edit/upload drone and other footage. Also will be gaming on it, can't decide on 80 or 90

  • @samiulhasan1124
    @samiulhasan1124 Před 11 měsíci

    dear jarrod, i am a true fan of you channel and always a well-wisher from bangladesh. i recently even ordered a laptop lenovo legion 5 pro which i found from your gaming deal website. absolutely love your content. Just a small advice, your videos are very informative, but they can get a bit monotonous to watch with all the benchmarks and all. I will only watch them whole if I'm buying that specefic laptop; otherwise, I skip. My advice is when showing the laptops gaming benchmarks, please show the game footages too. this will definitely help with cutting down the monotonous tone and make watching your videos more enjoyable. Also, a visualization of the difference in performance is more effective somehow, I felt that watching some other videos which does this.
    All the best and please keep making more videos. your comments and judgements are very trustworthy and please never lose that.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Před 11 měsíci

      I hope you enjoy your Legion 5 Pro! I have written about why I don't show game play here: jarrods.tech/why-i-dont-show-game-play-for-benchmarks/

  • @ScusiEKO
    @ScusiEKO Před 11 měsíci

    Omg nice. Hope you do a full review of Neo. Maybe I want to buy Neo 17 e23 with Oasis. But I’m not sure if the watercooling it’s worth. I’m often play games at several friends, and I hate the fan noices. Are other gaming notebooks with 4090 better?

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Před 11 měsíci +1

      I will be doing a review on the Neo 16 showing games results with and without the Oasis.

  • @doganaydogan1178
    @doganaydogan1178 Před 3 měsíci

    @3:58 Have I heard correctly? Are these results withous DLSS or FG ON? Raw performance?

  • @MusicHavenSG
    @MusicHavenSG Před 11 měsíci +31

    Frankly the 4080 Mobile is already more than enough for today's games at least for years to come. If the game does stutter, just down the settings or resolution.

  • @swiftskill3046
    @swiftskill3046 Před 6 měsíci +4

    RTX 4080 best choise.
    Video cards in frames per second are very similar, with the 4090 model having only an 8% difference, which is not significant. It is not worth overpaying for the 4090

  • @anthonyarkadia9760
    @anthonyarkadia9760 Před měsícem

    I just purchased the Legion Pro 9i fully maxed out and I love the hell out of this thing.
    I bought it from B&H Photo, it was a custom order and the buyer backed out so I got it on sale price for only $4300.
    Let me tell you, this lappy moves along very nicely.
    I wasn't really looking to buy a new laptop either, but when i.seen the deal I had to grab it!

  • @isaacwolfe5280
    @isaacwolfe5280 Před 11 měsíci +2

    This is off subject a bit but I would be curious to see how performance works with the iets gt500 or gt300 cooler pads. I think these are the best cooling pads at the moment but the comments also say they are the loudest if cranked all the way up.

    • @cypress2647
      @cypress2647 Před 10 měsíci

      seems like a lot of sussy accounts/bots saying the gt500 is great, spamming it everywhere basically.. But I personally bought it and tried it and it seems good so far. Its quieter than my room fan which is on 24/7, so I really dont even notice its on.

  • @vishwasamukherjee8499
    @vishwasamukherjee8499 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I was just about to close CZcams but saw your vid and here I am lmao

  • @ctsperformance1755
    @ctsperformance1755 Před 11 měsíci +3

    my 4090 XMG Laptop reaches 24.5k casually in Timespy graphics, clocking at 2610 Mhz. Crazy machine.

  • @petersonr3320
    @petersonr3320 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Hey, can you compare the 165hz displays of the legion 5 pro and the legion pro 5. The brightness seems to be different but is it the same panel with a diff backlight or is it a completely diff panel (with diff resp. times and diff color accuracy)

    • @wz-fv2ix
      @wz-fv2ix Před 11 měsíci +6

      Wtf legion 5 pro and legion pro 5. 😂😄

    • @archerjay2267
      @archerjay2267 Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@wz-fv2ix 2022 vs 2023, looks funny 😅 but lenovo really did that

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Před 11 měsíci +2

      Any testing on displays I've had in laptops can be found on my website: jarrods.tech/list-of-laptop-response-times/

  • @prateekgupta7544
    @prateekgupta7544 Před 11 měsíci

    Jarrod can you tell which is better, MSI GF63 4050 vs 4060 (125 dollars hike, tdp 45W)? in my country only these 2 models available

  • @jeremymatthew6626
    @jeremymatthew6626 Před 11 měsíci +15

    I have an msi titan gt77 with a 4080 in it. On release, the 4090 was marked up an additional 500 dollars on most retailers from MSRP or close to $1500 total. Nice to know I’m only missing out on about 9 frames in most games I play, given that 4k on both GPUs are going to most likely not be played without DLSS or some settings dialed down. I connect to a 1440p higher refresh screen at home anyway. Which I still think is the sweet spot for laptops for a while. I think the 4090 isn’t worth it for most people. It is probably worth it if you are getting a cheaper model than the msi titan - and don’t care about micro LED screens, mechanical keyboards, and the massive cooling solutions some of these laptops offer at the higher price tag. Thanks for the vid!

    • @jeremymatthew6626
      @jeremymatthew6626 Před 11 měsíci +5

      With that said a 4080 over a 4070 is massively more worth it! It seems like the wins for this gen are the 4080 on the top end and 4060 on the mid tier in performance leaps.

    • @jeremymatthew6626
      @jeremymatthew6626 Před 11 měsíci

      @@ifuckinghatebarking Probably not. Unless they're like me and constantly need mobility. If I was home more I would invest said money into a desktop.

    • @OledBurnInKing
      @OledBurnInKing Před 11 měsíci

      ​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​@@ifuckinghatebarking I need more than 12gb of vram so the 4090 is something that I would be getting since I'm already gaming with ray tracing in native 4k with hdr on, v sync off and motion blur off, unlimited fps if it's available in the game and dlss off. I cranked the graphics to there highest settings while using as much vram as possible for every game that I play lol. If there was a mod to force a game to have ray tracing even if the game never had ray tracing I would apply ray tracing every time. I really hope more games use unreal engine 5 but have the graphics intensity of crysis remastered with can it run crysis mode. Crysis remastered with can it run crysis mode in every graphics settings as my reference when I game in 4k with rtx enable, dlss turned off as well and experimental rtx boost enabled. I really hope new games looks exactly visual fidelity and quality like the gran turismo movie in native 4k with hdr, dolby vision and ray tracing. If more games has a graphics settings can it run crysis mode, I would enable it every time. I love 4k and high fidelity visuals when gaming and watching movies. I wonder how the games would look like with 4k with ar and vr without needing a headset like 3d tvs without needing the 3d glasses but with vr and ar instead. Like headset less version of ar and vr but in 4k when gaming and ray tracing. Like it would feel like you in the space suit and you are on mars but you are gaming in 4k instead without needing to use a vr and ar headset since it would a version that does not need a headset to play games in ar and vr since its headset less version. You basically just need a 4k tv and very powerful pc to make the game feel like you are actually part of the game and you can interact and be part of the action happening in the game. For example, when someone is passing a basketball in a game and the basketball pops up on the screen, you feel like you are actually touching the basketball and you just wanna grab the basketball and shoot the basketball. It would be like 4k realism mode like having motion activated sensors built in a pc or 4k tv. You would be making the mimicking the motions of a game and than the actions happen in real time but in a video game settings. I'm leaning towards the eon-17x gaming laptop since it has the Intel i9-11900k desktop cpu in it with 4 nvme ssd slots and a removable battery with 2 power bricks with each power brick being 280 watts each. I just wish the eon-17x has a 4k mini led display with 1,000 nits and a 4090 while having an updated Intel i9-13900k desktop cpu instead of the Intel i9-11900k desktop cpu for using msi afterburner. The only thing that I like about the msi gt77 titan is the 4k mini led display but the lack of a desktop cpu is what I'm after on a gaming laptop.

    • @greebj
      @greebj Před 11 měsíci

      yeah but still, a 4090 in many other models is still less than GT77 4080 and all the cooling in the world can't fix the crippled TGP and board limits that prevent enthusiasts from getting enthusiastic and extracting maximum performance out of the hardware

    • @1415gatewayable
      @1415gatewayable Před 11 měsíci +3

      I'm sorry that you went with the 4080 the 4090s clearly better especially for long-term I honestly think you made a huge mistake especially with that beautiful laptop screen definitely made for playing in 4k. Remember not all laptops are the same but the GT MSI is the best. And I don't know where you're getting only 9% difference maybe in the games that you play specifically

  • @futurez1988
    @futurez1988 Před 11 měsíci +8

    Waiting for 4070 vs 4080

  • @SebastianChaconCarpio-dk7bt
    @SebastianChaconCarpio-dk7bt Před 11 měsíci

    Can you review the Asus ROG SCAR 16 and it's mini led display and give thoughts on if it's worth having it instead of a 4090? (Legion Pro 7i with 4090 costs less then the SCAR 16 with mini-led and 4080)

  • @NoobieNetcode
    @NoobieNetcode Před 11 měsíci +4

    i got a Lenovo legion pro 7 gen 8 4090 for £2.6k quite happy with it :)

  • @themanwithsauce
    @themanwithsauce Před 10 měsíci +3

    If you really want the RTX4090 performance, consider waiting for a deal on HP's omen 17. I had a brand new laptop, shipped to my door, for around 2600$ after all the discounts. COnsidering how many manufacturers I've seen only ship 4070s, let alone 4080-s in that price range, you can't go wrong if you're a few generations back and looking to upgrade.

    • @Cenot4ph
      @Cenot4ph Před 9 měsíci

      i see so few people considering after market service, while pretty much all laptops i've owned needed 1 or more servicing rounds.
      On-site is pretty much a necessity in my book

  • @CouchMarine42
    @CouchMarine42 Před 7 měsíci +7

    I bought a strix g18 with a 4080. I was having a little buyers remorse, and was considering returning it and shelling out the extra money for the 4090 which would be more than $1,000.
    Glad I came across your video, $1,000 to get 10%. More performance is not worth it at all

    • @Obie327
      @Obie327 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Exactly my thoughts on this. I recently got MSI Raider E78 HX with the RTX 4080 on sale. (17 inch model) 32 gigs of DDR5 5600 and 2 terabyte m.2 storage. I remember hearing that the 4090 model was power and heat limited in most chassis. I run a 2k display and it's perfect with the RTX 4080 and 24 core 32 thread Intel 13050HX CPU.

    • @joshuam4993
      @joshuam4993 Před 6 měsíci +4

      I agree not worth 1k.
      I got my Lenovo 4090 for 2199 though. Which is only 200 more than most current 4080 deals so I don't feel too bad

  • @616lichking
    @616lichking Před 7 měsíci

    Is the 4 C difference in temps significant in laptop temp ? Planning to get 4090 over 4080

  • @user-qj4mu3fr6p
    @user-qj4mu3fr6p Před 11 měsíci

    Can you please suggest me which laptop should i buy?
    Nitro 5 with rtx 3070 TI or asus strix g15 advantage edition

  • @kb8582
    @kb8582 Před 10 měsíci

    Can you do a test on how manual fps limitation affects the temperature an noise on gaming Laptops. With a 4090 and 4080 for example

  • @PlatinumPaladin915
    @PlatinumPaladin915 Před 7 měsíci

    Glad I am getting a venerable Laptop with a 4080 :) Great Info Jarrod!

  • @sewalidoloi
    @sewalidoloi Před 11 měsíci

    Hi will you review the Zephyrus g16/14 lineup?

  • @GringoEpicGaming
    @GringoEpicGaming Před 11 měsíci

    Hello I have a little problem with choosing what will be better Lenovo Legion Pro 5-16 i5-13500HX 4060140w vs Laptop LENOVO LOQ i5-13500H card 115w.
    or maybe there is something else to think about ? :) Thank you for your answer

  • @willia451
    @willia451 Před 11 měsíci +8

    Good video. And timely since I'm shopping for a high end gaming laptop right now. For me. The extra 4GB of VRAM is worth paying extra for the 4090. I don't want to be doing this again anytime soon.

    • @johnrecker
      @johnrecker Před 10 měsíci +1

      12gb vram will be enough for quite long

    • @joshuam4993
      @joshuam4993 Před 6 měsíci

      That's why I got the 4090 for 2199 bucks. 16gb let's me stretch my legs. I can almost max everything out especially textures and not worry

    • @dignifiedgamer
      @dignifiedgamer Před 6 měsíci +3

      ​@@joshuam4993bro which model of laptop you got for 2199 bucks and what are your laptop specs and where did you get from? Is it a black friday deal, if so where did you buy?

  • @hardtoplay8111
    @hardtoplay8111 Před 9 měsíci

    Did you use rt in tested games, especially in cyberpunk? And, if yes, what settings exactly?

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Před 9 měsíci +1

      If RT was used it will be mentioned on the graph.

  • @ttkttk7463
    @ttkttk7463 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Nice review, now i will immediately order the 4090 laptop........in my dreams!

  • @sutv6754
    @sutv6754 Před 6 měsíci

    I am not a gamer but a video editor only. Video and Photo. Have you a video on these units when it's comes to adobe premiere? Like your channel a lot. I learn a lot. Thank You.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Před 6 měsíci

      You can see how all laptops reviewed performed in Premiere here: jarrods.tech/best-laptops-for-adobe-premiere-pro/

  • @MafiaBeats1
    @MafiaBeats1 Před 11 měsíci

    I need a laptop for gaming
    Can you please suggest me which one should i buy?
    Nitro 5 with rxt 3070 TI or asus strix g15 advantage edition

  • @poidem_domoi
    @poidem_domoi Před 8 měsíci +1

    sad that you didnt try to do the test in blender, cinebench and davinci for examle. it would be interesting, what would happen there.
    btw, dont you think it would be nice to make test in Unreal Engine 5 when comparing laptops? I guess it would be an interesting test!!

  • @ashikrawal9354
    @ashikrawal9354 Před 11 měsíci

    Tech things aside your t-shirts are dope \m/

  • @aminalqadi2k
    @aminalqadi2k Před 11 měsíci +1

    I love watching your videos! But what do you mean by “Average” & “1% Low”!?

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Average is the average FPS the game gets over multiple benchmark or in game runs.
      1% low is a way of showing the dips in performance, this video explains it well: czcams.com/video/l6WgbfG_z-k/video.html

  • @ashwanibhola3766
    @ashwanibhola3766 Před 11 měsíci

    This review was interesting to see, thank you! Btw, when I got my 3070 laptop last year with 8gb of VRAM, I was upgrading from 2gb and thought I was pretty future proofed for the next few years. Fingers crossed 🤞

  • @monstarmedia8869
    @monstarmedia8869 Před 9 měsíci

    Hey I want ask About legion pro 7i 2023, I want use 4TB SSD on second slot M.2, is that compatible for that laptop? I was ask The costumer service of Lenovo before but they said "just follow the recommendation"

  • @Diamondragan
    @Diamondragan Před 8 měsíci

    Much appreciated.

  • @muchaluchaartworks4849
    @muchaluchaartworks4849 Před 11 měsíci

    Have you tried the omen 17 rtx 4090?

  • @theguard1
    @theguard1 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Pretty much what I figured (based on the differences between 3070Ti and 3080Ti last year). Glad I went with the 4080 Legion Pro 7i!

    • @tkirk3660
      @tkirk3660 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Are you enjoying that laptop? I have my eyes on one but I've always had ROG

    • @theguard1
      @theguard1 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @tkirk3660 yes it fantastic! Wish it still had a fingerprint reader like previously but the screen is better and performance is phenomenal

    • @bobocop69420
      @bobocop69420 Před 8 měsíci

      Still holding up well? Kinda torn between that and the 4090. Those Legion laptops look sick spec wise.
      @@theguard1

    • @theguard1
      @theguard1 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@bobocop69420 yup! Make sure you undervolt (I have a light one going with -111mV on the P-cores and -94mV on the E-cores and it doesn't exceed 87C). Performance jumps way up too! All in all, this is a fantastic laptop and still love it

  • @thiagoalbertins
    @thiagoalbertins Před 11 měsíci +48

    A comparison between 4060 and 4070 would be great!

    • @tntbuffalogaming
      @tntbuffalogaming Před 11 měsíci +1

      THIS!

    • @kalaichelvan
      @kalaichelvan Před 11 měsíci +7

      It's about the same difference between the 4080 and 4090 10-15%

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal Před 11 měsíci +4

      same vram. save money and get 4060

    • @Mu-zw5bm
      @Mu-zw5bm Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@GewelRealEven if the difference is "only" 150usd?

    • @youngheart777
      @youngheart777 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@kalaichelvanyou are pushing it 5-10%max !!! Even in the best conditions if the 4070 had 10gb ram ok but 8tb nono . Simply save the money those 5-10 fps wont matter for the price increase !!!

  • @retricsbyfaddyy
    @retricsbyfaddyy Před 11 měsíci +1

    Hey Jarrod,
    Love your channel buddy
    Hey I was thinking of you could pull-up the legion pro 5 (Ryzen 9 7945x rtx 4070)
    With another laptop in the competition. I'm a hard fan of legion, but being a fan shouldn't get you to buy something that underperforms compared to other laptops of the same price. Your comparison might help not just me but a lot of people out.
    I just hope the latest Legion Pro 5 (Ryzen 9 7945x : RTX 4070 ) stands the best out of other laptops in the price range.
    Thanks Jarrod
    Love from Kolkata
    India

    • @howiepince3910
      @howiepince3910 Před 7 měsíci

      He has a video comparing the 4070 vs 4080 laptop gpus ans states not to buy a 4070 as the 4080 is like 40% faster overall.

  • @h1ghken
    @h1ghken Před 11 měsíci

    Strange my overclocked msi delta 15 seems to perform alomost as well as the 4080 in some games in

  • @martinhristov1808
    @martinhristov1808 Před 10 měsíci

    Can you please do the results with mobile RTX 4080 at 4k without ray tracing and with frame generation and dlss enabled at ultra settings? Can it reach stable 60 fps?

  • @Giraffe_king64
    @Giraffe_king64 Před 11 měsíci +1

    could you review the msi-katana 15

  • @bhold7197
    @bhold7197 Před 11 měsíci +14

    I just got the asus rog strix 18" 1440p 240hz 4080 i9 13980hx and it is a monster. and it was "only" 2500, which is a lot but is actually surprisingly cheap considering most 4090 laptops are 4000.

    • @jeremymatthew6626
      @jeremymatthew6626 Před 11 měsíci

      Yeah thats a really solid laptop for the money

    • @meshlol
      @meshlol Před 11 měsíci

      B&H photo is selling the lenovo legion with the 13900h and the 4090 for $2699

    • @bhold7197
      @bhold7197 Před 11 měsíci

      @Joseph Maxwell ya i needed the 18" screen though and there aren't any 4090 laptops with an 17.3 or 18 screen that r cheap. also kinda wierd they didn't pair the best i9 with a 4090 but ya for 200 more that is a pretty good deal

    • @meshlol
      @meshlol Před 11 měsíci

      @@bhold7197 I'm using a 34" ultrawide as my main monitor and the laptop as a second screen, etc.

    • @allstargaming2500
      @allstargaming2500 Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@meshlolIf legion pro 7i with 4080/4090 has Mini LED then definitely it is a must buy this year. However Jarrod said lenovo will be adding the Mini LED last year but still they haven't. Also there is a new screen option for Slim 7i gen 8. It would be nice if he reviews it with the new display option.

  • @CuriousGeorge1111
    @CuriousGeorge1111 Před 7 měsíci

    For the same performance/$, I go for more performance. Because more. Very informative. Thanks, Jarrod.

  • @kallekallenen4346
    @kallekallenen4346 Před 11 měsíci

    Is this XMG based where? I was thinking about ordering one but is it a good and quality manufacturer?

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Před 11 měsíci +1

      They're based in Europe. They are a Tongfang reseller. If you're in the US the equivalent brand would be Eluktronics

  • @054_pramitdas4
    @054_pramitdas4 Před 11 měsíci

    Can you make gpu comparison video of Mac mini m2 pro vs it's Nvidia equivalent?

  • @chicharitotan17
    @chicharitotan17 Před 10 měsíci

    which monitor should i buy for the 4080 version?

  • @NoSmileification
    @NoSmileification Před 4 měsíci

    The game benchmarks are without DLSS and or FG correct?

  • @Ar_Pachauri
    @Ar_Pachauri Před 11 měsíci

    Can you do a review for the Dell G15 (2023) i7 variant ?

  • @GatoPaint
    @GatoPaint Před 11 měsíci +1

    sicke! cant go back I’ve already spent money 😂💀 waiting on my legion pro 7i with 4090 I got it with a 300 usd discount 🎉

  • @djroxstar278
    @djroxstar278 Před 11 měsíci

    Where's the acer predator Helios Neo 16 review waiting for it pls

  • @solsky6595
    @solsky6595 Před 2 měsíci

    Here with Aorus 17X with 4080 12GB VRAM. IT IS the problem already. For Ratchet and Clank - very high textures causes intensive stuttering. loweeing just to high resolves all issues. Desktop 4090 allocated 16/24 vram easy and is super smooth. Its not a new game already. It will get even worse later in 2024. Outstanding notebook review channel, thanks!

  • @williammathies2998
    @williammathies2998 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Thanks!

  • @likhithlucky7853
    @likhithlucky7853 Před 10 měsíci

    Could you please tell me how to do power scaling test

  • @newsunalliance
    @newsunalliance Před 8 měsíci +1

    This sounds like Blair Joscelyne from mighty car mods 😂😂😂🔥🔥

  • @romanbellic810
    @romanbellic810 Před 11 měsíci +8

    Since the 4090 mobile is comparable to the 4070 Ti desktop in performance, does this mean the 4080 mobile is comparable to a 4070 desktop (non-Ti)?

    • @fourtysevenak
      @fourtysevenak Před 11 měsíci +1

      4080 Mobile is on Par with Desktop 3080Ti , 4070 Desktop should be a little bit faster then

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@fourtysevenak 4070 desktop is usually around 10GB 3080

  • @MadanSingh-pe7ku
    @MadanSingh-pe7ku Před 11 měsíci

    Sir please suggest me whether i should buy a 3070ti with 150 watt tgp or 4050 with 140w tgp
    Please help sir
    Huge Fan

  • @lghbtsl
    @lghbtsl Před 11 měsíci

    Amon Amarth? Awesome. Do you like Arch Enemy?

  • @niebuhr6197
    @niebuhr6197 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Imo it's a waste, 4090m is just an experiment.
    This chip should be 200w of board power to be balanced and deliver a worthy step over 4080m. Hopefully in 2024

    • @fourtysevenak
      @fourtysevenak Před 11 měsíci

      Nvidia will place a TI behind the name , generate much profit with our idea and you´ll get nothing :)
      Jenssen , Take Over :)

  • @GivSadds
    @GivSadds Před 11 měsíci

    Please review Asus Tuf A15 , ryzen 7 7735HS & rtx 4050

  • @preetomsahaarko8145
    @preetomsahaarko8145 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Please make a detailed review of ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 (2023), mainly of the most popular model having RTX 4060 GPU.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Planning on it. I should finally have one arriving soon.

  • @gmiblessed
    @gmiblessed Před 11 měsíci +5

    31% more cores for 15% more performance. How does that compare to Ampere scaling wise?

    • @DeepteshLovesTECH
      @DeepteshLovesTECH Před 9 měsíci +1

      175W is not enough for the 4090 mobile (4080 desktop with G6 memory).

  • @gauravsharma3765
    @gauravsharma3765 Před 11 měsíci

    Which laptop gpu is best for gaming (1080p and 4k) rtx 4060 or rx 6800m ?

  • @Real_Minecrafter
    @Real_Minecrafter Před 10 měsíci

    I'm thinking along the lines of the strix 18, where the 4090 version is 1500 more, but do consider that is does have twice the ram and storage

    • @deadlyslayer271
      @deadlyslayer271 Před 4 měsíci +1

      You can usually upgrade the RAM and storage on a lot of laptops for way cheaper than $1000 though.