Gun Gripes Episode 91: "Guns and Class Struggle"
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In this Gripe, we touch on a subject not talked about often to our knowledge: The economic class struggle as it related to firearms. Much like any other commodity, the type of guns typically purchased by people is in direct relation to their place on the social ladder. If you are middle class, you are most likely not going to own a $100,000 dollar car. You are also no likely to ever purchase a $100,000 transferable machine gun either. You are most likely to purchase $1,000 rifle at some point. This is just one example, hopefully we touched on the subject well as we have come to understand the link between guns and social class. Stay tuned for more!
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When I was working on my undergrad in history, I studied a LOT of medieval European history. Feudal society basically grew up to protect people from external threats, prior to the development of Feudal lordship there was the Roman Empire, and after that fell in the west, a lot of people became suceptable to raids from the Vikings, and in the east the Byzantines couldn't protect people from the Huns and other raiders. Feudal lords were basically just warlords who demanded fealty in exchange for protection, and over time, as the Viking and Hun (and other raiding groups) raids ramped down, those feudal lords realized that they'd be unnessisary if people could defend themselves, so they created a monopoly on force. This kept these people in a position of perpetual power... and still keeps them there. That's why any man who wants to take away your right to the use of force is evil, because they want to perpetuate their power over you and make you beholden to their ability to utilize weapons.
AND he makes kick-ass knives, Mr. Will Moon ladies and gentlemen!
Awww shucks... thanks man, I do appreciate the complement :)
I was about to make a post along these exact same lines. Damn Mr. Moon beat me to it. On an interesting note. Norsemen were required to keep weapons, for defense of themselves, but also their Jarls and lands.
Makes awesome knives and knows his history too, kick ass! Maybe some day I could work my way to purchasing a knife by you but for now I'm in the zt, Benchmade , Coldsteel range but that what makes this country great , if you have a dream and work hard you can get their.
And lots of weak willed people will line up to help keep the warlords in power, and themselves in chains.
People commenting on how many were actually required to train with a longbow in medieval England are missing the point. Eric and Chad are correct. Look at the introduction of the crossbow. It allowed an untrained poor person to engage a wealthy armoured nobleman in combat. So they banned it.
You saved me the effort of typing basically the same point. Thanks.
darkblood626 Cheers.
I have a story on class that happened to me. My dad has some co-workers that are also gun owners. They all came over to my Dad's place for a BBQ and I drop by to visit and have a good time. We get to talking about guns with my dad's coworker and how I just got my SD9VE from Smith & Wesson and how I love the pistol. Well one guy starts talking shit about it and that I should have bought this expensive as hell Kimber 1911. I'd love a Kimber 1911 but I could not afford it. He goes to his truck and brings his Kimber over and claims it to be a man's gun. It was nice looking and I would love to have it but he start bragging about it and I said, "Let's shoot it against my SD9. He laughed and said he did not want to embarrass me. I called him a pussy and that got him to agree to it. Went to the gun range and we fired it and such and he still talked shit up until we went to the targets and saw my grouping was much smaller and closer together than his and how his was all over the paper. Also I told him my pistol held 15 rounds and his 7. The icing on the cake was when he dropped the 1911 and the sites snapped off and I've dropped my SD9 and not even a scratch.
An expensive gun with all the latest swag doesn't make you a good shooter. Spending time at the range does. His money went towards looks while mine went towards ammo.
never been impressed by the 1911s all decked out. to me they are more show pieces. i would rather have simple RI 1911 to use as a work horse side arm and not be afraid to drop it. btw ive owned an sd9ve and in my opinion you get more than what you pay for with that pistol.
Awesome story, hope the guy learned an important lesson that day! My friend recently bought a Tisas 9mm 1911. Very affordable 1911, priced down with RIA (which are also nice). My friend does 3 gun competition and was smoking guys with $1500 custom target model pistols with fancy sights, flared mag wells, trigger jobs, etc. All with a gun that cost him 380 bucks or so shipped, and this was in "out of the box" condition, no upgrades whatsoever.
A similar story, I bought my dad a Polish P64. My dad likes to test his reloads by shooting off a bench with a pistol rest @ 25 yards. He shot several of his pistols that day, including a very expensive custom 1911, a Walther P99, a CZ 75, and a couple others. The best group of the day was with his little Polish P64 9x18 with cast bullet reloads. It cost 200 bucks shipped.
SD9VE is a better performance weapon than any fancy 1911
I still shoot a bolt action 22 that I bought with paper route money when I was 9 years old. My dad said he would get it for me if I took a safety course at the base gun range held by the NRA. It is a sears 22 that still shoots so accurately it is scary. My son can not wait for it to be his.
Dalton you make sure he gets the INNACURATE one! That way there is less chance of him trying to speed up the inheritance! LOL!
I shoulda thought about that. Thank God that 22 ammo is so hard to get
dalton vickers
LOL! Good hunting my friend.
Laurie St Lyon
Thank you very much
dalton vickers My father taught me on his model 60 up until I was 9-10 and he finally bought me my first rifle (next to a vast array of BB guns) And christmas I opened up a present and pulling back the paper I spied the cowboy, another tear and there it was. The Henry Repeating Arms Company. opened the box and my first .22, Still have it and plan to teach my son and buy them theirs. But my dads Model 60 still stays near and dear.
I loved it when he said he was young and wanted a safe full of guns. Because I am 22 and I have a safe full of guns
did you buy them all
Yes I did
Rock on man.
Its funny. here in the UK we are seen as the quintessential example of the class system. (Much of which is exaggerated) Yet as this video demonstrates, class struggle is everywhere. In fact i think it has changed in this global age. It's the global political elite and those people who preserve it and everyone else.
I also agree, gun culture, is part of what makes America who it is. We non US people have no right to tell you what to do. I totally agree with that. It's basic respect.
Much obliged to you good sir, from across the pond.
theallmightychad
No problem at all sir! :)
That's great, most Europeans are highly critical of Americans owning firearms. I think they're fools for allowing themselves to become subjects of their governments.
"We non US people have no right to tell you what to do. I totally agree with that. It's basic respect." you, sir, have just shown a great deal more common sense than even our politicians!
feralbigdog
Thank you ! :)
Early Gun/Class Struggle Example: "Saturday Night Special" laws that were against poor or black people.
From Wikipedia: "The earliest law prohibiting inexpensive handguns was enacted in Tennessee, in the form of the "Army and Navy Law," passed in 1879, shortly after the 14th amendment and Civil Rights Act of 1875; previous laws invalidated by the constitutional amendment had stated that black freedmen could not own or carry any manner of firearm. The Army and Navy Law prohibited the sale of "belt or pocket pistols, or revolvers, or any other kind of pistols, except army or navy pistols," which were prohibitively expensive for black freedmen and poor whites to purchase.[10] These were large pistols in .36 caliber ("navy") or .44 caliber ("army"), and were the military issue cap and ball black-powder revolvers used during the Civil War by both Union and Confederate ground troops. The effect of the law was to restrict handgun possession to the upper economic classes.[11]
You beat me to it. I just posted a comment mentioning the army and navy laws.
I was watching Tombstone again the other day. The basic plot is that there is a marauding gang that is regularly robbing, randomly shooting, and harrassing the generall citizenry. So the "good guy" and his buddies (some of whom are shown committing a robbery too) gets a badge and starts by disarming the honest citizen and deciding that it isn't worth using the law to disarm the known criminal. -Because that would start a confrontation. A confrontation happened anyway, and several of the disarmed public were killed in the crossfire.
I know the show wasn't historically exact, but the general points were what happened and is happening now.
I think one thing that you all left out is like with many items....starting at the lower end of the scale gives you that much more appreciation for the higher quality items. when you start off with high end you don't even know what it means it just is. when you start out at base point and you learn an item inside and out and then you grow to a better item you know and appreciate the difference.
Really interesting video. Here in the UK owning a gun (shotgun or rifle) is seen as a very upper class pursuit due to the expense and difficulty getting a licence.
That is hard to imagine. I have a license to carry a handgun that is recognized in 30 something states. The fee was 50 dollars I think.
I think the thing about there would be a gun behind every blade of grass should be something we are PROUD of still today!
Nect time i hooe they say theres 3 guns behind every blade of grass. Because all gun owners know most pro gun americans have more than just 1 gun hahaha
Awww…cute story about little Eric meeting Barry the first time. Could tell there was a little waver in Eric's voice.
The firearm is humanity's great equalizer.
Please keep these coming guys! I greatly appreciate you guys' time invested & hard work.
I think the best example of "class struggle" in the gun community is in Class III firearms. The $200 is no longer a burden (thanks to inflation), but the price of the weapons is insane due to restrictive laws. And collectors are of course resistant to changing the law as they'd lose money on their investment, and their deep pockets control the pro-gun lobby. I remember hearing that we allowed each Iraqi household one AK-47 for home protection.
Yeah, when the $200 tax became a reasonable amount of money they closed the machine gun registry with the stated purpose of drying up the supply of machine guns to the public. The Hughes Amendment was the biggest infringement on the Right of the People to keep and bear Arms in the history of this nation and should have been deemed unconstitutional a long time ago.
Ive heard some Title II collectors say they would gladly lose some of the value if they could add new ones to their collection.
Just what Ive heard.
brenton adams Some of them are true gun guys who would see the NFA repealed, some are investors who just like shooting who would fight to keep it. Both camps exist and I've met both kinds of guys while I was at a couple (not very big) MG shoots. Although, in my personal experience, more are the repeal it type anymore and they tell me it used to be the other way around. They're just not seeing the ROI they thought they would get after so long or stopped wanting to sell them.
What I recommend, and this came up on another video I saw about the NFA, is making sure people know about it. Many gun owners have no idea about any part of the NFA. We need to make it an issue people are talking about. Like the explosion in suppressor sales over the last few years. We need to make NFA an issue. Its been 80 years, and thirty years since Hughes. We need to bring it up again.
brenton adams That would be awesome, though, I will admit, if I dropped $60,000 on a gun, and suddenly one day the price of it dropped to under $10,000 I might be a little miffed, but that's if I was looking at it purely as an investment. Still it wasn't right for the Hughes Amendment to be implemented and forced upon the FOPA of 1986, it should be removed and immediately but it isn't going to be easy to do so.
As a gunsmith I get to meet a lot of different firearm owners. From the tactical or competition shooter to the bird hunter. I love what I do for a living, I get to work on a variety of firearms, but getting to know my customers is almost as interesting. There is a huge variety of firearms and firearm owners. Do I have a bias? Sure I do. But I've learned that what I like isn't what everybody else likes.
I really wish Gun Shop owners and employees in my area had the same mindset you guys do. Around here they lie to make a sale, get angry when you don't know what you want, and every time you leave the store with a bad taste in your mouth.
Thank you guys for being great people and helping the gun community like you do.
I'm 15 and got my first gun a few months ago for my birthday a Ruger 10/22 I can't wait till I have a safe full of guns 😁
How's that safe looking now, friend?
I appreciate you bringing up Gun Shop "snobs". I have "3" shops within a 20 mile radius of my home and "EVERY" shop I walked in to they looked straight through me as if I were made of glass.. Never asked if they could assist me or answer a question...
I finally found an individual with an FFL and now I order online through him. Wish you guys were closer. Sometimes you want to hold the firearm & get a "feel" for it. Keep up the fine work!!!
I enjoy your Gripe videos probably the most out of all the videos you guys do. I have never had an issue with the length of the Gripe videos, they are always interesting and informative. Keep it up.
Quickly becoming one of my favorite channels. Keep up the variety. I like the reloading videos, gun gripes and shooting vids.
I've been watching the channel for years, first time commenting. First off, ya'll and Hickok45 are my fav 2 channels on youtube. Love everything you do, but this video especially. Class struggle is something close to my heart so it was especially gratifying seeing you guys do this video. I'm not the typical firearms enthusiast, as im on the left in the political spectrum, but as far as the 2nd amendment goes, and the bill of rights and constitution for that matter, im a huge supporter.
actually, in England during medieval times, citizens were required to have some kind of weapon in their household, although most people weren't able to buy a good sword, but most had some kind of dagger or spear.
that said i agree with most of what you guys said about the present day :)
Eric met Barry as a kid visiting the shop. How cool is THAT? These guys were soul brothers for sure.
cesalt Eric must be younger than he looks or your story is wrong. Barry didn't work there his entire life.
WE WANT A SHOP TOUR
Great video Eric and Chad. Chicago and their Concealed carry permit situation is a prime example of class struggle. I'm sure you are well aware that the people that need these permits the most cannot afford to obtain them with all the hoops they have to jump through. It's saddens my heart.
You guys are awesome, I live in CA and you guys are right we have some of the most ass backwards gun laws ever created. But I will say that I stumbled upon a great little gun store and the owner is a very nice man who agrees that gun ownership is very important and knew I didn't have much money and worked out a layaway plan for me and held my .357 for 4 months until I was able to pay it off. As time has gone by I've avoided bigger gun stores and even better prices to make sure his gun store continues to stay open. Now my son is looking for his first gun, and is going to buy a 20 gauge semi auto from him. I am also teaching my daughters the importance of firearms and I know I'm not alone out here in CA we do have many responsible gun owners who support the 2nd amendment. Thank you guys for all of your videos, I've gained so much information and have taken so much of your advice. You will continue to have my support and that of my son. Keep up the great work. #FirearmsArentEvil #SupportThe2nd #WeAllHaveTheRightToProtectOurselves
This video makes some excellent points, particularly related to gun snobbery. I was a pro shooter (photographer), and we joked about amateurs who always had to have the newest and most expensive equipment. We knew those gear junkies usually spent more time on specs and status than on the quality of their work. The same is often true of gun snobs.
Gun folk are so nice people because "with great power comes great responsibility."
I love this episode. It really speaks the truth about how it is. Im a 20yr old Marine starting my own collection and part of me thought i was making a poor life choice by being an aspiring gun nut, but this kind of gives me a peace of mind that I can have the collection I want and the gunsmithing skills i want to learn provided I make smart choices and pursue my passion. Thanks guys and much respect from MCAS Beaufort.
Thanks for the videos guys. I always learn something and I really enjoy your topics. Keep up the good work. Gonna try to make it down yalls way after the first of the year and check out the shop. Thanks again from your eastern neighbor in South Carolina.
Those were two of my first guns in my collection my grandfather got me a high point and a model 60. Great video guys. :)
I love the gun gripes series of videos that you guys put out. My first gun was a highpoint C9. I remember out shooting the guy in the lane next to me at the range who had just bought an expensive Sig pistol and thinking, Why spend that kind of money just to miss.then I realized as I got better that the better I got at shooting, the less it mattered what I was shooting.
I was thinking this was going to be about select fire guns selling for orders of magnitude more than they should, not due to demand or market forces but regulations.
As far as cheap guns, most of the people who hate hi points are the same people who have a kimber that "fails to fire," "fails to feed," and "fails to eject"... But it's never malfunctioned.
Grab a hi point and a Norinco 870, for $300 you've got a pistol and long gun that will do what guns are supposed to do. Throw in a PAP M92 if you want a rifle, and for under a grand including a fair amount of ammo and some mags you've got 3 solidly performing guns.
A hi point may not be the best gun in the world, but it's infinitely better than the Glock/Sig/Wilson Combat/HK/MasterBlaster5000 that you haven't bought.
I own a Kimber Custom Gold Match, a couple Glocks, a Sig 229, and a new HK VP9, but I also own a Kel Tec P11, an FIE single six 22, and Marlin model 60. I had to sell all my guns, but one 25 years ago because of financial reasons, so I don't put anyone or what they own down. I do however try to let new buyers know there are better low cost options out there. I have bought two Ruger P95's this year for $250 each. These are great guns that will last a lifetime.
welcome to present day uk
So bloody true...
I cant count how many of the videos I have watched, I could watch them multiple times and they don't get old, you guys have a fan up in Wisconsin
a gun is a gun if you can shoot it respect it no mater what kind of gun it is respect it
Nerf gun?
The ducks are coming
RESPECT IT!!
Better yet, respect the people with the guns.
Caleb Whittington An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
A toy gun yes but I would hooe parents would have enough sense to tell their kids not poke out their eyes or shoot sticky darts at passing cars.
I enjoy my hi-point .45 :P
so proud of you guys for making a video on this.
Eric, here's an idea for a gun gripe: Gun shops with "No concealed carry" signs. WTF!?
Considering pro-gunners rightly point out how gun free zones are open invitations for criminals and criminals do not obey gun laws, and the many other bumper sticker slogans we see, hear and use, and assuming most gun shop/range owners are actually pro-gunners, the logic escapes me why almost any gun shop or range I go to has a sign on their front door stating "No loaded firearms" or "No concealed carry", etc.
Now, I understand there are people who are careless, unsafe and even stupid, with their firearms (like the guy who pulls out his concealed carry to show off his gun in the gun shop or range), but there has to be a better way than restricting the responsible gun owners from carrying in the places that makes the most sense for us, the places we should be most welcome carrying, in the places where are most apt to be surrounded my like-minded individuals -- our local gun shops and ranges.
hey guys i really like what you are doing and how you are promoting guns. Keep up the good work and definitely keep makin these videos
New subscriber, love the channel guys awesome stuff. Thanks for all yall do.
Proud to have started my collection in college
S&W sd9ve, Mossberg 88, Mosin Nagant!!
im from australia andi love all of yours videos keep it up guy's love from the land down under
I love you folks. Keep doing your thing!
another great video and some solid points. Keep it up guys.
You guys have a great attitude, I wish that people who work at our local gun ranges were like that. I'm not far from you either, (Douglasville Ga.) I've enjoyed your post's, very well done.
A fun fact about bow users in medieval england. The skeletons show that significant bone density differences, also things like spurs and such, were very common between the right and left side of a life long archers skeleton. Fun times indeed.
some of us in the northern counties of California are tired of our gun rights being infringed upon and are trying to secede form California. we are calling it the state of jefferson please support us on this noble venture
Great vid as always. This touched home because I wanted to place a gun on layaway recently and received the cold shoulder because I didn't have the money to buy it flat out.
Another great "Gun Gripe". Great work guys.
You guys really speak the truth. And also give great advice.
Hey Chad and Eric. Y'all want to go fishing on Toledo bend October 24-26? It'll be awesome.
Great video, love the gun gripes!
There's always layaway lol. All of my ARs I built myself and bought a piece here and a piece there when I could afford it. Took me a year to buy all the parts for my most recent AR which was about $2400 when I finally had everything to build the rifle
I have a decent firearm collection, but I shoot with people who are older than me. One friend has a lot of ARs from the top manufacturers, bunch of HK pistols, SBRs, and suppressors. His collection blows mine away. When talking one day, he said "just remember, I have been building this collection for 30 years. Trading up from lesser guns to the best". Definitely some good advice. I will get there one day ;)
I'm 17 years old and it seems like every gun store I enter seems annoyed that a kid is in their store. Iv been called a call of duty playing dork and told I should leave by a gun store owner. It's good to hear that they aren't all like that.
I can relate. I'm handicapped, so whenever I go to gun stores and gun ranges, I get a bunch of bad looks and rude comments too, even though I'm not doing anything wrong.
My question to you is what state do you live in.
Great video and very educational. 2 thumbs way up.
By far the best gun vídeos I've ever seen. We, here in Brazil, are being ataccked by dictatorialship and comunist (yes, i said comunist, crazy brazylian still suport the slavery of Cuba and old USSR), hopefully, this will help people to see the regular man not as the bad guy.
Great video gentlemen! Treat everyone with respect no matter what they carry.
The kings of medieval England actively encouraged the long bow. As to be any good, it it took a lot of training. All sports where banned on Sunday accept archery. This is one of the reasons the muskets developed because it took so long to train people.
I think this is probably one of the best gun gripes you all have made. It makes a lot of sense, and actually uses the term "class struggle" without any fearmongering. I'm a student of medieval European history and what you said is basically in line with modern thinking regarding weapons ownership in much of mainland Europe. Bows specifically were outlawed because hunting was only legal on certain forests at first, and eventually all land in England belonged to the king and feudal lords only managed the peasants for him. In France up until the Revolution there were laws about who could own and carry a sword, whereas in England it was pretty much fine even during the middle ages.
The comments that other people have made here regarding individuals wanting to take away your firearms is true. I'm an individual of the leftist persuasion politically speaking, and I can tell you for a fact that most communists and socialists have no want to take away your firearms. Firearms are ESSENTIAL to any revolution and class uprising. The people who don't want you to have them are those who would either profit financially or circumstantially from you not having your weapons. The thing that you guys repeated that really made me smile is "Just because your situation isn't as good as someone else doesn't mean you don't have any less of a right to defend yourself."
Tl;dr: Keep doing what you do.
This is a great topic. I'd like to add that most people who look down their noses at some of the guns you mentioned (the Mosin Nagant in particular) really have no idea what they are talking about in the first place. I didn't get to start my gun collection until I was about 40, and then it was the guns I inherited from my dad and grandfather. I somehow tripped across a Mosin Nagant topic on a forum somewhere, and my first thought was, how can a $99 gun be taken seriously? After some research and watching some videos, some of yours were in there, I was sold. I went to our local great pawn shop here in Oklahoma City and picked up my first 91/30 hex receiver. I've since added about 5 more to the collection, and in a SHTF situation, you can bet your a$$ I'll be bringing a couple of those along. Great video guys, keep up the good work.
Excellent gun gripe. Hit the nail right on the head. Thanks
Medieval England though, you where practically required to have a dagger or be trained on a full strength longbow from the age of 7 at one point.
I know this video is 7 years old but the message still applies today. I have noticed that some gun owners try to be in a certain group or click so they buy certain brands to be in a certain social status. If it wasn't for credit cards or bank loans some people wouldn't be able to afford those firearms. I personally will not put a firearm on credit. I certainly could but it's not that important to me and I find it more satisfying to save up for the gun I want and when I get it I tend to appreciate it more.
This was a good Gun Gripe thanks guys.
i had a 12 bore bolt action Mossberg with adjustable choke loved that gun
Great video guys.. really love these.
Very good topic guys. The only thing I would add is no matter what it is you can afford and buy, be proud of what you have. This should be true in all areas of life. Truth be told, although I have three safes filled with all kinds of cool guns, pulling out my old Mosin m44 and my Ruger p95 are some of the best days at the range and they bring back some great memories and stories. Love what you have and let dreams for the future drive you.
first rifle I ever got was an FN FAL, first shotgun was a 870 marine model and my first handgun was a Beretta 92FS Inox
At the I go to the long range is dominated by high priced shooters, 338's and 5K plus rifles. People who are "certified" get priority. If I want to shoot I have to go on a rainy day. I asked how you get "certified" and they asked what do you shoot? So there is a kind of class system.
I want to see them do a AR-15 build, the goal is to make the ultimate AR-15 mutt and keep $700-1000. I know there are ARs selling already at this price point ,but are they using the best parts for the money to make the most you can get quality wise ad still be in the price goal. It needs to be functional not over doing it with mods, but still using good parts with a good reason each part is chosen. Im kind of liking the RF85, Anderson arms is using. There is just so much AR stuff out there to choose from and it becomes a headache.
The way that you described getting a gun collection is the exact same thing with my guitars and legos. I used to buy $50-$100 guitars and now I'm buying $500-$1000 guitars.
I'm 17 and my friends think I'm crazy because I don't even have a car yet because all my money goes to buying new guns haha.
I'm sure that the attempted "melting restriction' was to prevent polymer/composite frames, which means heavier to carry and conceal...
hey mna. I was the one who called you about the mosin ammo i bought i thought went to my nagant last week, lol. whats up man. just want to say you guys are awesome.
Hi Eric and Chad! Love y'all's Gun Gripes and videos! Quick question, what kind of camera and (applicable) shotgun microphones/lapel mics setup do you guys use when you shoot your videos?
I live in California. Our "roster" of approved handguns is unconstitutional. We've had "sse" single shot exemption so it's easy to still get any off roster pistol. January 1st that goes away. Governor jerry brown passed a law to get rid of sse so after jan. 1st it's back to the list of "approved" pistols. SO LAME!!!
Has anyone tried to take this to court? The only reason the politicians in this state pass such stupid laws is because we let them. I haven't gotten around to registering to vote in this state since I moved back. I need to get on that.
purplemutantas
You were OUT of California then came BACK? You're beyond saving.
Yes. The great people over at the calguns foundation have and are in lawsuits with California over these unconstitutional laws. They just got the 10 day waiting period overturned "to a extent" starting next year. It's hard when were outnumbered 10 to 1 by commie liberals who are gun snatchers. I'll just keep buying the firearms I can and stocking ammo. Sucks when you feel like a 1 man army and your fighting with your back turned! Come on Californians, get your shit together, stand up and fight these people for your rights! Not just 2a but all our rights!!!
Tyler Ford ..so true
*****
Yup no more private party transfer anymore without a background check.....Hella lame!
Hey Eric, great channel and I loved this episode. Now I want to call you out one a promise from 10 shows ago that you said you would make a top 5 military handguns at a later date. It's later now.
I felt like you were talking to me when you addressed young people because im 18 and i cant wait till i graduate college and can fill a gun safe of my own
I live in The Netherlands, we aren't able to have any weapons or you have to undergo a long long training, i took the time to do it though, but there are still very strict rules...
Always always always enjoy "Gun Gripes".....
Great vid & topic !
i feel my wallet catch fire every time i see that wall behind them.
Great info and great gripe!
Hey guys, I just wanted to say that I love your videos and that you guys make a clear and excellent point every time you make a video. We need people like you so that I can show my liberal friends that guns are not evil, but that they are multipurpose tools, and that the person's intention is what makes a tool a weapon or a useful instrument. I enjoy your commentary on different brands and I really do appreciate how you picked up and kept going when Barry passed. May he rest in peace. God bless you guys.
Ps. My username is a satire so anyone who reads this please realize I am not about any swag or yolo lifestyle
Great vid! Guys! Greetings from Texas!
Great video! All I can say is that everyone starts from somewhere; my first rifle I ever bought was a $80 Mosin-Nagant... but it didn't matter to me; I was proud of buying a firearm at whatever price point. I'm not the best shot, I hadn't gone shooting in a few years (got into my compound bow) and I'm VERY rusty, but having gotten married and turning 30 in this world we live in, I am on my way back in. This relates to the video because last night I was fortunate to attend my CC class with my XDm .40 while the gentleman next to me was with his Hi-Point .40. No one judged him for his "inferiority", at least visibly, but personally I felt proud that another individual was making the conscious choice to accept personal responsibility for his safety. I just wish that more young people of my/our generation would turn off the Call of Duty and pay attention or do likewise; nothing wrong with video games, but there is more to life than sitting passively in front of the TV. The same can be said of voting on Tuesday; I wish more people would stop being passive and doing nothing; if you don't actually go out and vote, you have no right to complain about the election and the results that emerge from it because you abstained from your moment to speak up...
cant wait for the next one
Keep them coming!
Great video, great topic
well done really liked the video.
Hey, you guys forgot to mention King Bloomberg and his personal traveling police force while he campaigns against us having guns. There's Class Warfare in a microcosm right there.
California does not currently have a melting point test. However, Hawaii, Illinois, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and New York do. California is just currently considering adopting one.
can we get a gun gripes about the debate between practical accuracy vs accuracy and how folks complain about a gun that doesnt group at 1 moa or less.
Is that really even a debate ? Who complains about guns not begin accurate enough for general use ? Unless its a target rifle its all user preference.
A local pawn shop where I live has 40 or so M57 Tokarev's for $179.99 I just bought mine 4 days ago I carry it every day I love that gun for that price it sure beats a hi point and personally I prefer the Tokarev to a Glock because simply its all steel and more durable and I like owning pieces of history.
+Scott Selsing I did some math and found it hard to believe, 250000 rounds would take almost three days to shoot if you fired a round every second.
themanwiththekx first of all it was over a decade and it had well over 250,000 the guy wrote a book on it. i don't remember what it was called but, he sent out to prove springfield XD was just as good or even better than glock. so he bought a glock he shot the damn thing alot then he had his firearms class students shoot it. now i know u r just trying to make me out to be a liar saying it was all in one day. and it wasn't. if u looked it up on google or sumthing im sure it would pop up. glock shoots over 250,000 rounds with no failure or any replacement parts...
themanwiththekx the book is called clash of the titans... look into it im am not shitting u 250,000 rounds with out a single fail. and the author was trying to disprove how reliable it was
I'm not saying the glock is a bad option it's one of the best but its not a one size fits all personally I prefer metal to polymer and I prefer the feel of the tokarev over the glock and the tokarev is much skinner and more powerful than the 9mm glock counterpart when compared to a tokarev in 7.62x25
+Scott Selsing I'm sure there were some failures. The odds that a glock shot 250,000 rounds without a single failure are probably astronomical lol
I love these gun gripes.
one thing i noticed lacking in the discussion was the fact that many of the upper class can afford to pay for their own bodyguards who with the way security contractors are treated today can actually carry newer full auto weapons. admittedly very few private contractors have access to them here in the US but they still have it
SCCY CPX2 is on my want list! Right after the S&W Shield 9mm
My first gun was a 12 gauge Stevens Model 67. It still works fine.
I chuckled when u brought up Johnny Cash one peace at a time that's how I got my ar15 bought a lot of the little parts over time and put it all together