"Democracy Is Work" - Julia Ioffe On Why The Ukraine Crisis Is A Wake Up Call For Americans

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  • čas přidán 24. 02. 2022
  • Julia Ioffe knows what it's like to live in non-Democratic Russia and thinks Americans should view this crisis as a glimpse into this country's future if Democracy is not protected here at home. Read more of Julia's work at www.puck.news. #Colbert #PuckNews #JuliaIoffe
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  • @nojolie
    @nojolie Před 2 lety +2183

    When she said ‘ukraine hasnt experienced democracy for that long and look how hard theyre fighting for it’ i almost started crying

    • @SilentKnight43
      @SilentKnight43 Před 2 lety +85

      That was indeed a poignant statement.

    • @unorthodox_funbox
      @unorthodox_funbox Před 2 lety +55

      Forreal and we got these idiots in the US taking advantage of their democracy

    • @undeadly1103
      @undeadly1103 Před 2 lety +35

      i actually did

    • @wonderfulfable
      @wonderfulfable Před 2 lety +90

      That statement hit hard. And democracy should not be taken for granted.

    • @tw-ym8zr
      @tw-ym8zr Před 2 lety +12

      watching Bald and Bankrupt on youtube ...... interviewing babushka's, exploring old soviet buildings... worth it

  • @Cisssana
    @Cisssana Před 2 lety +8

    Julia, we are fighting not even so much for democracy, but for survival.

  • @Ring0fSaturn
    @Ring0fSaturn Před 2 lety +475

    "Democracy is work, it's vigilance, it's being educated, it's being a savvy consumer of media, it's voting, it's paying attention." Julia Ioffe. Thank you.

  • @LuboMirtchev
    @LuboMirtchev Před rokem +36

    Watching this in 2023. It amazes me that even informed experts like Julia had doubts about Ukraine's success as it has transpired since then. Ukraine taught all of us a big lesson!

    • @OriginalPuro
      @OriginalPuro Před rokem

      Replying to this in 2023.

    • @f0t0b0y
      @f0t0b0y Před rokem

      That and Russia sucks ass at war. 🤣

    • @move2003ny
      @move2003ny Před rokem

      fair point, but in the first month of the invasion all the experts, political and military, thought that Ukraine had no hope whatsoever. To be honest, even now a Ukraine victory seems very far down the line, if it happens at all. The current frontline reminds of the western front of WWI. Plus, if NATO countries don’t hurry up and China starts supplying the Russians, we might be in for a nasty surprise

  • @blakeforland8238
    @blakeforland8238 Před 2 lety +1503

    We should always care about the suffering of others, no matter who or where.

    • @sunseeker9581
      @sunseeker9581 Před 2 lety +11

      Should but dont

    • @blakeforland8238
      @blakeforland8238 Před 2 lety +11

      @@sunseeker9581 Unfortunately,

    • @frozenrose84
      @frozenrose84 Před 2 lety +2

      this! yes! Thank you!

    • @johnhopkins6260
      @johnhopkins6260 Před 2 lety +5

      If we don't fix it, someone else may fix it for us... regardless if we like the outcome.

    • @iguacu3517
      @iguacu3517 Před 2 lety +7

      A nice platitude, but also part of the thinking that pulled us into some terribly ill-conceived wars since WWII.

  • @junheceta268
    @junheceta268 Před 2 lety +926

    Julia Ioffe's analysis is both insightful and incisive. I particularly like how she does not sugar coat the gravity of the situation but still offers a realistic ray of hope.

    • @az..0N3
      @az..0N3 Před 2 lety +2

      It's very tough believing anything from American media even if it is coming out of a Russian born.

    • @verlorenish
      @verlorenish Před 2 lety +16

      @@az..0N3 Oh but you will blindly follow Rupert Murdoch's lies through Fox News right.

    • @yc9185
      @yc9185 Před 2 lety

      @@verlorenish inbox me 👆👆

    • @toofunkyT
      @toofunkyT Před 2 lety +1

      Watch the Putain files on CZcams

    • @az..0N3
      @az..0N3 Před 2 lety +2

      @Jairo Siordia Not sure why you think I would even watch fox news 🤔 All the mainstream media from USA is full of rubbish!! Always following the narrative that benefits corporates or weapon manufacturers

  • @shichiroku
    @shichiroku Před 2 lety +20

    Just finished watching her on Frontline. She has a new fan. Incredible insight.

    • @S0ulinth3machin3
      @S0ulinth3machin3 Před 2 lety

      Agreed. That's one of the best interviews (if not the best) on this subject that I've seen.

    • @migueljaquez4455
      @migueljaquez4455 Před rokem +1

      I seen d Frontline interview.... I loved d way she described the way Putin sees our presidents.... actually right on d money.... I hope d whole country sees this documentary... especially d Trump lovers

  • @tetiana7868
    @tetiana7868 Před 2 lety +246

    Julia, you've underestimated Ukraine, "We'll lay our bodies and our souls for our freedom" that's what our anthem says. Every Ukrainian soldier, every Ukrainian child, every Ukrainian civilian knows these words. Our servicemen have kids and mothers behind their backs. They will never give up fighting. The motivation is absolutely incredible here, we protect our land and now we want revenge, for every killed baby, for every killed person. Ukraine will win. We are grateful to everyone for support!

    • @Turnpost2552
      @Turnpost2552 Před 2 lety +6

      Death is easy, its living that is the hard part. Live for your family, don't fight for another meaningless hatred of just one man desire for power.

    • @derekd1510
      @derekd1510 Před 2 lety +7

      @@Turnpost2552 Silence you coward! The WORLD will fight for the freedom of the Ukrainian people. Already foreign fighters from every western country are flocking to Ukraine to support the brave Ukrainian Resistance and WE WILL NOT STOP THERE! Poo-tin's END is NEAR and the end of the Soviet era along with him. Freedom for Alexi Navalny and for all the Russian people as well.

    • @maxmcgloin
      @maxmcgloin Před 2 lety +22

      Julia has covered Russia and Putin for 15 years can you blame her for being a pessimist. Keep up the fight Ukraine, Bless you all.

    • @genciduraku4340
      @genciduraku4340 Před 2 lety +18

      Great words Tatiana ! Ukraine 🇺🇦 will win this war and show all the world the true spirit of Ukrainian people. High respect from Albania 🇦🇱 for you and your cause!

    • @klyxrasta
      @klyxrasta Před 2 lety +12

      She did not underestimate Ukrainians, nobody really did, except USSR lover Putin. By telling her "best" case scenario she was aiming for the least amount of deaths, infrastructure damage and disruption to everyday lives both for Ukrainians and rest of Europe. Her dream scenario can be argued for both sides whether it's really a "best, best" case scenario, especially now when we see how much Ukraine has been destroyed, lives that you nor I will be able to bring back, all the memories lost. But it is not my business to talk about these things since i have no relations with Ukraine. Only for you to judge how much you have lost and if it, in the end, will be worth it. I can only guess that there is no point stopping now since so much has already been lost. It would make all those loses irrelevant.
      However we were all surprised by how unprepared Russians were for this war. That is the THING that we overestimated. We knew Ukrainians would fight back, anyone would if we really take in to consideration all the aspects that lead to this war. Let me paint you a picture - someone gives you 8 years to prepare after they take 1 room of your house with zero retaliation from you and after 7 years starts to transparently prepare to take the rest of your house. Trust me anyone would fight tooth and nail, so nobody underestimated you guys. Most of us are still baffled by Russian army. Their biggest threats were their army, their military power, tactics, strategy, all sorts of political and military manipulations. And now people don't even know what to associate Russia with... maybe incompetence, ineffectiveness and being brutally outdated. If you asked me in 2021 who would win if a full scale war begins (A war where all parties are aiming to gain something valuable and by that I mean minimal, highly strategic use of nuclear weapons... so you are left with more than post-apocalyptic wasteland) I would hesitate and think about Russia... If you asked me the same question now I would laugh and ask you war between who?
      I would not say we were surprised by Ukrainian efforts. It's just that Russians were unsuccessful for the most critical first week of this war and because of that Europe's, as always, sluggish decisions actually made some supportive impact. And the longer this war stalls the more impact is being made. And this complete failure of Russians boosts morale and retaliation strength of all defensive parties involved.
      I'm not saying Ukrainians are not fighting hard enough or not sacrificing enough for their country, they certainly are, as expected. But their army soldiers are not some crazy top of the line war machines that nobody on this planet could replicate. It is plain and simple complete failure by Russians. COMPLETE Fiasco. Failure is not even terrible enough word to describe how utterly big this FUCK-UP is.
      I'm sorry but history will emphasize more how Russians failed and how much they were overestimated than Ukrainians fighting back like anyone else would. Tell me honestly do you think Poland wouldn't fight back if they were not in NATO and EU and let's say Belarus and Ukraine were under Russia? And 8 years prior took idk 20% of south Poland and after 7 years brings in whole military arsenal next to its border to take rest of the Poland away
      Now I would have been surprised beyond measure if Ukrainians went to war after Russia took Crimea in 2014, but we both know how that went. I sure as fuck hoped you would not give rest of Ukraine away the same way today. So what we all estimated from Ukrainians in response to this "special military operation" came to fruition. Слава тобі.
      Russians took Crimea with no retaliation cause they sent in troops and said they were not there, cause troops simply didn't have insignias or anything. And you guys were all baffled and didn't know what to do. You increased the budget for military and never ever wanted to be embarrassed like this again. Now Putins plan was to start a full scale war and call it "special military operation" and hoped you would yet again be baffled and not know what to do. But you proved him wrong and were prepared this time. And that was to be expected! Only one that underestimated you was Putin. Not Julia, me, Biden, Poland or anyone else.
      Just keeping it real here. Fuck geopolitical occupants and USSR lovers!

  • @chemento0712
    @chemento0712 Před 2 lety +735

    Imagine Americans having to be told this by a born Russian. Kudos to Julia Ioffe!

    • @supernatural5354
      @supernatural5354 Před 2 lety +3

      Be told what?

    • @chemento0712
      @chemento0712 Před 2 lety +26

      @@supernatural5354 Just listen to the interview...

    • @jsatish1974
      @jsatish1974 Před 2 lety +14

      I did not know America is a democracy. You guys disenfranchise colored races and enable the nazis to decide who should run your country. The best part is you guys preach about equality, democracy to others. Effing hypocrites.

    • @yc9185
      @yc9185 Před 2 lety

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    • @Eidelmania
      @Eidelmania Před 2 lety +19

      @@jsatish1974 India is ruled by a far right religious fundamentalist who inspires bigoted attacks against religious minorities. Who the hell are you to lecture us?

  • @ultimomos5918
    @ultimomos5918 Před 2 lety +271

    You can see she's on the verge of tears here. So much needless suffering and death...we can do so much better and yet we fail, time and again. Here's to hoping that reason and mercy prevail.

    • @angela1984a
      @angela1984a Před 2 lety +11

      The only thing that can stop this is if the Russians rise up and gets rid of the Dictator Putin.

    • @stevekluesner4430
      @stevekluesner4430 Před 2 lety +3

      Hard to believe that Putin couldn't find more constructive ways to exercise his influence , opportunity and abilities isn't it . Looks like the indication(s) of a sick mind in action to me .

    • @anadd6195
      @anadd6195 Před 2 lety

      She doesn't seem to be at all. But it is nerve-wracking for sure.

    • @ultimomos5918
      @ultimomos5918 Před 2 lety +8

      @@anadd6195 look at her body language, she's very clearly attempting to remain composed. It's really not very hard to see

    • @MikeOxlong-
      @MikeOxlong- Před 2 lety +3

      @@angela1984a ...and he is more acutely aware of this fact than anyone else on the planet. The only question that remains is will he put the bullet between his eyes himself and allow the world to continue, or will he press on through bringing all that comes with it (as he’s been threatening now for more years than I care to remember)? Because it’s all about him, his legacy, and the fact he still to this day believes the fall of the USSR was the worst thing that could have ever happened (oh, and the fact that he never bluffs, ever) - I’m leaning towards the latter...

  • @dukeon
    @dukeon Před 2 lety +195

    Julia Ioffe really knows her stuff. She’s lived and worked in Russia as well as the USA, and she gets it. I always enjoy her articles in The Atlantic and many other outlets (including PBS’ Frontline).

    • @ThatSingingGuy
      @ThatSingingGuy Před 2 lety +6

      She was generally insightful, but she was way off base on the Syrian refugee crisis being the thing that "gave us Brexit." That pot has been boiling for a lot longer. Small mistake, but a superficial understanding.

    • @tiararoxeanne1318
      @tiararoxeanne1318 Před 2 lety +5

      @@ThatSingingGuy You're right that Brexit is the result of many things accumulated. But I think she meant Syrian refugees was the "last straw", not the only reason that caused Brexit.

    • @dudeshiya
      @dudeshiya Před 2 lety

      Good Lord! Julia is really a hell of an imaginative lady. Tbh, this show is really for the mass. Very misleading and political. How about being neutral and looking at the two sides of the coin? And educate the public as for the real reason behind this invasion so that we can prevent such things from happening again in the future. Without true education -- and further misinformation -- invasions like this will happen again. And people like Stephen Colbert and Julia will indirectly have blood on their hands cause they have the reach to really inform. How about being truthful for once? I guess that will never happen on this show and these people ... They are too concerned about making money and name for themselves.

    • @karo1922
      @karo1922 Před 2 lety +4

      She knows half of the stuff. For me ( a person born in post USRR period in one of the satellite countries), she is pretty much focused on russia and has very limited knowledge about other countries from that block. The fact that she disregard the subject already shows that she shares russian perspective.

    • @klyxrasta
      @klyxrasta Před 2 lety +1

      @@ThatSingingGuy way off base? :D That refugee crisis is what tipped the pot over. It was one of the many last straws. And this could be a last straw for other countries. But only those that are further away from Russia.

  • @bricology
    @bricology Před 2 lety +86

    Also: Thank you, Stephen, for giving her plenty of space to talk. I appreciate that you could've thrown in more witty banter, but it was so important to let her continue to fully express her thoughts.

  • @Lexomm1
    @Lexomm1 Před 2 lety +73

    We take democracy for granted, as a right, when it's a responsibility, a duty, do be well informed, and reasonable when participating.

    • @yc9185
      @yc9185 Před 2 lety

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    • @elroythegreat1590
      @elroythegreat1590 Před 2 lety

      Well informed, do you also watch the View?😳

    • @trainingxtrish
      @trainingxtrish Před 2 lety

      @@elroythegreat1590 sir, is that your only response? Your prejudice (pre judgement) and ignorance are astonishingly disheartening. Or do you only watch Fox and OAN? See how stupid that question is? Either add an educated comment (because you’ve read many sources) or STFU.

  • @mortenBP
    @mortenBP Před 2 lety +69

    "Look how hard they are fighting for it" (Democracy). That was the most important line I drew from this.

    • @yc9185
      @yc9185 Před 2 lety

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    • @zitools
      @zitools Před 2 lety

      good gods will somebody already inbox them.

  • @whatsilviadid3993
    @whatsilviadid3993 Před 2 lety +113

    WOW, when she said Russians have never experienced democracy and Ukrainians have only experienced it for a few decades and look how hard they are fighting for it is a total eye-opener.

    • @robertmeis887
      @robertmeis887 Před 2 lety +13

      In world history, democracies are actually extremely rare. Democracy is NOT the natural state of human societies (autocracies are) and must be vigilantly maintained and defended.

    • @seanmoran2743
      @seanmoran2743 Před rokem

      Ukraine is run by oligarchs- she is being dishonest

  • @davidbrook7121
    @davidbrook7121 Před 2 lety +28

    Julia Ioffe has a beautiful heart. Brilliant, soulful, compassionate, wise. A valorous woman.

    • @user-zm5wo1ip5m
      @user-zm5wo1ip5m Před 2 lety +2

      As a ukrainian I felt all her compassion in her "best case scenario"! You can take girl out of russia, but you cannot take rashism out of her.

    • @davidbrook7121
      @davidbrook7121 Před 2 lety +1

      @@user-zm5wo1ip5m - Slava Ukraine!

    • @skymaster4743
      @skymaster4743 Před rokem

      Lol. She is a notorious warmonger doing the bidding of neolib-neocon axis in Washington DC.

  • @whiskeycreammedia
    @whiskeycreammedia Před 2 lety +134

    "We've had a democracy for hundreds of years. We just need to make it better."

    • @marknewbold2583
      @marknewbold2583 Před 2 lety +3

      Ha ha

    • @yc9185
      @yc9185 Před 2 lety

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    • @yc9185
      @yc9185 Před 2 lety +1

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    • @nav579
      @nav579 Před 2 lety +1

      I agree. Let’s stop pretending there’s no room for improvement.

    • @tinaperez7393
      @tinaperez7393 Před 2 lety +1

      KEEP it and make it better.

  • @hoozle
    @hoozle Před 2 lety +658

    She's superb. I love her insight and her manner. Such a privilege to hear from an expert who can communicate so well with a late night TV show audience.

    • @Deaner3D
      @Deaner3D Před 2 lety +15

      There's a really great long-form interview with her done by Frontline for their Putin doc, def give that a watch/listen.

    • @januarybaby1063
      @januarybaby1063 Před 2 lety +3

      She seemed well informed but a bit all over the place to me

    • @guysabol8743
      @guysabol8743 Před 2 lety +1

      yes you texted my thoughts exactly many thanks!!! damn I love Colert show!

    • @hoozle
      @hoozle Před 2 lety

      @@Deaner3D thanks for the tip 👍

    • @8ctopus0000
      @8ctopus0000 Před 2 lety +1

      This is the lady posting pics with Richard Spencer, she’s a scam

  • @katescott4049
    @katescott4049 Před 2 lety +88

    I like these kind of journalists that tell the truth as it is , without sugarcoating it , even when it is hard to hear .

  • @visantparkash384
    @visantparkash384 Před 2 lety +12

    People talk about democracy as if it is a religion and is flawless. Factually, democracy is a SYSTEM. Like all systems, democracy needs to be improved continuously, its flaws should be correct, and its results should be managed and improved.

  • @giaccommander7474
    @giaccommander7474 Před 2 lety +10

    I don´t know why but she made me cry at the end.........

  • @ninskdesign
    @ninskdesign Před 2 lety +135

    She contributed to the Frontline documentary that covered the Ukrainian revolution several years back. They released all of the long form interviews that they pulled from for that doc and hers was the most informative by far (in my opinion). Highly recommend to anyone who wants a better understanding of what is going on and what is at stake.

    • @yc9185
      @yc9185 Před 2 lety

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    • @alexapuerta
      @alexapuerta Před 2 lety

      Thanks! Is it "The Battle for Ukraine"? I never heard of Ioffe before today. Going to check out Puck and this doc you recommended.

    • @yc9185
      @yc9185 Před 2 lety

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    • @bricology
      @bricology Před 2 lety

      @Ninsk Design -- do you have any more specific info than that? My attempts at Google-fu haven't turned it up.

    • @ChrisColeChicago
      @ChrisColeChicago Před 2 lety +1

      @@bricology czcams.com/video/Mv555OoCtps/video.html

  • @chubbybrown4real
    @chubbybrown4real Před 2 lety

    She is Truly amazing from Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @MichaelFlynn0
    @MichaelFlynn0 Před 2 lety +1

    Smart Smart ... I love Julia.

  • @nirrti7
    @nirrti7 Před 2 lety +41

    "You got anymore of that bourbon?" I have a feeling we're all about to get a little drunker from going through this mess.

    • @dwhitman3092
      @dwhitman3092 Před 2 lety

      I feel ya darlin'!

    • @Kat-gp6gj
      @Kat-gp6gj Před 2 lety

      I just got a Jack Daniels commercial after watching this lol

  • @chrisandersen5635
    @chrisandersen5635 Před 2 lety +71

    Much respect and hope for you and your friends and loved ones’ safety Julia Ioffe.

    • @mikewhite4560
      @mikewhite4560 Před 2 lety

      But MANY Americans don't KNOW we're a DEMOCRACY....

    • @yc9185
      @yc9185 Před 2 lety

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  • @wolrdtraveller
    @wolrdtraveller Před 2 lety +11

    Everyone in democratic countries should be paying attention to this incredible woman.

  • @allanmiltenberger7798
    @allanmiltenberger7798 Před 2 lety +7

    Killing it Ms. Ioffe . Glad to see and hear you. Will pray for friends and family swept into turmoil.

  • @venessav8773
    @venessav8773 Před 2 lety +14

    All i can is wowwwww! 🇨🇦 stand up and rise together for Ukraine and for the world!! ❤🌏 democracy must prevail and sacrifices must be made to keep it! ✌️💞🌎

    • @yc9185
      @yc9185 Před 2 lety

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  • @pamelatanner788
    @pamelatanner788 Před 2 lety +28

    Yes! Thank you for very important reminder that democracy is work. We take it for granted but can lose it if we dont protect it.

    • @ericminch
      @ericminch Před 2 lety +1

      All we have to do is convince the 40 million Americans who think authoritarian rule is better that they are wrong. 40 million of us. How many of those 40 million are you going to convert? Starting...now.

    • @yc9185
      @yc9185 Před 2 lety

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  • @francesthorarinsson3699

    Thank you Julia-Democracy is work

  • @gmt5664
    @gmt5664 Před 2 lety +1

    Watching in May. Incredible

  • @haldenza6464
    @haldenza6464 Před 2 lety +445

    Gotta love this show for how they‘re consistently managing to blend late night entertainment with a more serious and critical approach, I think Stephen is probably the only LNS host who can authentically pull it off. I sometimes think he still doesn’t get enough credit for his intellectual prowess. He could easily host a one-on-one format like Charlie Rose (without the creep factor, that is) and I hope we‘ll get to see him in something like that at some point in time. Would be awesome!

    • @dingaia
      @dingaia Před 2 lety +18

      Trevor Noah is pretty good as well, i'd even go so far say he's even more progressive than his counterparts.

    • @cc1k435
      @cc1k435 Před 2 lety +11

      The Colbert Report was bitingly funny political humor, there's no way he wouldn't be talking politics now. 🤣

    • @gregdiamondmusic
      @gregdiamondmusic Před 2 lety +15

      💯 he’s pretty brilliant, John Stewart also did it so incredibly well back on his show back in the day.

    • @JohnSmith-pn1vv
      @JohnSmith-pn1vv Před 2 lety +1

      This! Celebrities who parrot the mainstream narrative know what's best!

    • @JohnSmith-pn1vv
      @JohnSmith-pn1vv Před 2 lety +2

      @C C you don't have to, you choose to, and it's very obvious. Another shitlib American who wants.... drumroll please badadadadadadadadadaa.... WAR!
      Oh, nobody saw that coming

  • @MylesDavid
    @MylesDavid Před 2 lety +213

    Julia is awesome!!
    They should have her at the White House right now helping to navigate this awful situation!

    • @lakotasue
      @lakotasue Před 2 lety +7

      Good point!

    • @mishynaofficial
      @mishynaofficial Před 2 lety +11

      As a Ukrainian, I must tell the world that Ukrainians will never give up democracy and will never submit to any puppet or repressive regime after 2013. Nonsense to even think about it. Julia Ioffe may understand Putin, but she does not understand Ukrainians.

    • @yc9185
      @yc9185 Před 2 lety

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    • @ericklaus3972
      @ericklaus3972 Před 2 lety +2

      Yes because Biden is in Delaware taking a nap

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      @yc9185 Před 2 lety

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  • @tintinban
    @tintinban Před 2 lety +33

    What a Brilliant woman. I wish our leaders are surrounded by people like her who tells them what they need to hear, not what they want to hear.

    • @johnbolton2149
      @johnbolton2149 Před 2 lety +2

      So to recap her 3 pronged worst case scenario:
      1.) Putin expands attack to Baltic (NATO) countries, drawing the USA into yet another international conflict.
      2.) Putin’s war, like the USA/Iraq war, will drag on for decades due to quick decapitation of govt w/ lil prep and no clear plan for moving fwd.
      3.) The amount of Ukrainian refugees fleeing the war in large numbers and spreading rapidly across Europe will only further far-right nationalist movements in European governments.
      Her “best case” scenario:
      Putin is successful in capturing Zelensky, extraditing him to Russia where he’s tried and convicted for bogus war crimes. The invasion not only ends democracy immediately in Ukraine, but it deters any revolutionary attempts by the Ukrainian ppl for fear of Putin’s wrath?! - does this woman understand the term “best case scenario”? For whom is that the best case? I’ll take the 3 headed worst case scenario given those options plz.
      Idk if this woman misunderstood the spirit of the questions, or if she’s extremely cynical. I’m a realist, not trying to sugarcoat this dilemma w/ myself or others, but this was odd…

    • @robshastri1346
      @robshastri1346 Před 2 lety

      @@johnbolton2149 I see what you’re driving at. But think she’s being straightforward in saying that the “best case” for the world from global war & annihilation standpoint would be worse case for Ukrainians ie, a swift & decisive victory.
      Which we now know hasn’t happened…and won’t happen. So Putin will simply escalate the violence since he’s indifferent to mass casualties & human suffering…and thereby essentially dare the West to confront him on the battlefield.
      So it’s grim outcomes no matter what.

  • @khananasherov
    @khananasherov Před 2 lety +11

    One of the best political interviews! Great stuff, thank you.

  • @y2kelly66
    @y2kelly66 Před 2 lety +123

    Ukraine is so close to Russia. Afghanistan was a far away place and we stayed 20 years. This could go on a long time. Pray for Ukraine 🇺🇦 🙏 😢

    • @DuranmanX
      @DuranmanX Před 2 lety +3

      I mean, the USSR bordered Afghanistan

    • @Megalomaniakaal
      @Megalomaniakaal Před 2 lety +4

      @@DuranmanX Kelly means the other Afghanistan war.

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    • @katakurifan5213
      @katakurifan5213 Před 2 lety +1

      Or end in nuclear war which Putin seems interested in starting

  • @marvinmartion1178
    @marvinmartion1178 Před 2 lety +136

    She's absolutely right, democracy is work! But I'll take a little work over fascism any day!

    • @kenhoward3512
      @kenhoward3512 Před 2 lety +1

      It's gonna take more than a little work with a fascist - proudly so - in our midst, influencing tens-of-millions of Americans and leaders of one of the two political parties in charge here. I don't believe we've ever seen an internal threat like this before, with so many Americans now believing we should have an autocratic leader (the same one defeated in 2020, who convinced traitors to wave American flags and call themselves "patriots").

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    • @supernatural5354
      @supernatural5354 Před 2 lety +2

      You say we have a democracy but we have 2 parties in this country they operate the same way 🤣

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  • @katherinevanderbogart490
    @katherinevanderbogart490 Před 2 lety +4

    Fantastic, unbelievably well spoken and honest journalist! I thank you for giving us this much needed knowledge. Incredible!

  • @2Startortoises
    @2Startortoises Před 2 lety

    Julia for president!!! I love this brilliant woman!!!

  • @AbdulHannanAbdulMatheen
    @AbdulHannanAbdulMatheen Před 2 lety +6

    👏😐
    Best wishes to the people of Ukraine

  • @lllCTHULHUlll
    @lllCTHULHUlll Před 2 lety +131

    I know celebrities get more views, but I'll always love Colbert for putting politics first. His insistence of putting politics at the forefront did not work for his ratings early on, but I'm here for it just as I was for The Colbert Report. And this interview was perfect even if it was sobering. Great guest.

    • @garryferrington811
      @garryferrington811 Před 2 lety +1

      If you want your fluff straight, there are other shows. Colbert is like Dick Cavett compared to Mike Douglas, but funnier.

    • @supernatural5354
      @supernatural5354 Před 2 lety

      All he ever has on is liberals 😂

    • @dukeon
      @dukeon Před 2 lety +1

      Great Cthulhu, is it really you?? Please start with MAGA and Freedom Truckers when you destroy our reality and drive us all insane. Thanks! 🙏🏼

    • @elroythegreat1590
      @elroythegreat1590 Před 2 lety

      I am guessing you also watch the View.

    • @alexapuerta
      @alexapuerta Před 2 lety

      @@supernatural5354 No he doesn't. Chris Wallace, D***** T****! And a fair share of moderates.

  • @LillianHenegar
    @LillianHenegar Před 2 lety +16

    Thank you LSSC crew for bringing on intelligent informed experts to discuss critical issues. I loved her "cautionary tale" to us - democracy is work! If we stand with Ukraine, and those brave Russians protesting the war, then we must work to save and invigorate our own democracy.

  • @Green-ie1dn
    @Green-ie1dn Před 2 lety

    Thank you, Julia!

  • @theWZZA
    @theWZZA Před 2 lety +82

    She was a brilliant guest. We should heed her warnings, be vigilant, and protect our democracy. The USA needs to be a shining example to the world.

    • @Monkeyseemonkey79
      @Monkeyseemonkey79 Před 2 lety +3

      I agree with every word!

    • @sunseeker9581
      @sunseeker9581 Před 2 lety +7

      Its not been a shining example for a long time

    • @theWZZA
      @theWZZA Před 2 lety +3

      @@sunseeker9581 We can be better, no doubt. We have to try.

    • @sunseeker9581
      @sunseeker9581 Před 2 lety +3

      @@theWZZA a lot better. Many countries in europe and Canada have done better for a long time.

    • @theWZZA
      @theWZZA Před 2 lety

      @@sunseeker9581 it's not a competition. Peace.

  • @buttercrunch24
    @buttercrunch24 Před 2 lety +25

    I have been following Julia for quite a while and she is the first journalist I turn to regarding Russia and Putin. Her insights and calm clarity are priceless.

  • @Yertle_Turtle
    @Yertle_Turtle Před 2 lety +6

    Excellent guest! Best informed speculation on the outcomes I've seen out of ALL the political discussion so far. I'm paying attention to Ms. Ioffe from now on.

  • @Necedemal
    @Necedemal Před 2 lety

    Julia, Youa are an extraordinary speaker, so clear, inteligent, and beautiful.

  • @miket4560
    @miket4560 Před 2 lety +20

    Thanks for the clip. What a charming guest. Looks like Stephen needs a hug. In fact I think we all could use one. 🇨🇦

    • @ericminch
      @ericminch Před 2 lety

      I'm with you. Consider this a hug for you and all of Canada.

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      @yc9185 Před 2 lety

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  • @borntoexplore982
    @borntoexplore982 Před 2 lety +366

    America, If you value your democracy, you will vote in November. We can’t afford for people who defend Putin’s actions to be elected.

    • @artimuos903
      @artimuos903 Před 2 lety +1

      Or who are doing nothing.

    • @dwhitman3092
      @dwhitman3092 Před 2 lety +3

      AMEN!

    • @katakurifan5213
      @katakurifan5213 Před 2 lety +2

      We might all be dead by November

    • @scoobydoo3928
      @scoobydoo3928 Před 2 lety +19

      Yes. The elected Republican party has shown us who they are. Drumpf supporters have shown us what they are about. Right wing authoritarianism, which has been on the rise around the world in the last few years, must be shut down with a mighty scream of democracy. So sad, that the loudest voices have been the minority, and anything but democratic. Such is the result of poor education and monied social media.

    • @justaperson9155
      @justaperson9155 Před 2 lety +12

      So thank god Trump is out. Who was buddies with Putin.

  • @robote7679
    @robote7679 Před 2 lety +2

    What she said about Democracy. Yes, yes Democracy is work and it is worth it.

  • @lillianwilliams5510
    @lillianwilliams5510 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for truth!!

  • @robvangessel3766
    @robvangessel3766 Před 2 lety +283

    I feel it's time to take a broad look at how hoarding sociopaths and greedy corporatists work together. Their alliance is mutually profitable, and as it grows, democracy sinks.

    • @frozenrose84
      @frozenrose84 Před 2 lety +5

      so true

    • @desireeespinosa3954
      @desireeespinosa3954 Před 2 lety +7

      Yep. Our Corporations in Chiefs don’t see a monitory gain for helping Ukraine, so we won’t. It breaks my heart

    • @robvangessel3766
      @robvangessel3766 Před 2 lety +13

      @@desireeespinosa3954 My bigger concern is the long-run pattern. The 'Corporations in Chiefs' alongside the billionaire class (all of them, self-serving bullshitters, from Vladimir Potanin to Elon Musk) are pressing on to dismantle democracy, ours and those throughout Europe. We all have a big, big fight ahead; but with billions controlling our political system and our politicians, the People as defined in our Constitution may have as much chance of winning that fight as Ukraine has against Russia. As quoted by Stephen Colbert,. "the price of liberty is eternal vigilance". Well, since the 1980s, most of us haven't been very vigilant, as corporations deepened their hooks decade by decade - until it fed into what may now become a global crisis. The corporate oligarchs are ultimately the source of this whole damn thing.

    • @jeank8061
      @jeank8061 Před 2 lety +9

      @@robvangessel3766 To support your point, I found it rather disturbing and incriminating that Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas' wife is very involved with this small group of super-wealthy people who are funding this whole lie about the 2020 election being stolen. To me, this supports the idea that the super-wealthy oligarchs of the world working to dismantle western democracies. Why now? I can't help but think that these powerful entities are all watching the current global severe weather events as well as the grim forecasts of increasing sea level rise, devasating storms, floods and wildfires. There is no way climate change will not create ieconomic instability; it is inevitable. They are building their larders and feathering their nests... :(

    • @ultimomos5918
      @ultimomos5918 Před 2 lety +2

      very well said

  • @gkh2606
    @gkh2606 Před 2 lety +5

    So chilling and haunting. Her analysis.

  • @jamesdonnell2579
    @jamesdonnell2579 Před 2 lety

    Julia, wise and beautiful..
    All ears when you orate so sagaciously 😉👍😁

  • @glentorn5362
    @glentorn5362 Před 2 lety +7

    This was a fascinating interview.
    I found Ms Ioffe's insights to be very enlightening.

  • @orsygodri1155
    @orsygodri1155 Před 2 lety +114

    I understand that as a late night comedy show you wanna end on a high note but I think Steve should not have pushed her on a bright side. Julia Ioffe seemed very clear on how grim even the best possible outcome is. We NEED to understand that life is not just chuckles and happy days and leaving on a note like this might wake people up more to the reality we are living in.

    • @kevtb874
      @kevtb874 Před 2 lety +10

      This. He just couldn't let it go as a host could he? She was being realistic. She knows Ukraine is not going to win this fight. Not without direct immediate help which until now is not on the horizon. That's the facts if the matter. Best case scenario is that it's at least a swift and efficient takeover, with minimal casualties and then things go back to a discussion and justice is done without a protracted need for open war.

    • @joeydon185
      @joeydon185 Před 2 lety +2

      Agreed

    • @me034
      @me034 Před 2 lety +7

      I think, he knew her answers before hand, and pushed the good case scenario to make people understand that the best case scenario sucks and how serious the situation is

    • @miscellaneousstuff2901
      @miscellaneousstuff2901 Před 2 lety +19

      However, by pushing that hard and still getting a grim picture from her, it has that much greater an impact. It was good interviewing and probably even better answering from Julia.

    • @docjohnpaul1
      @docjohnpaul1 Před 2 lety +13

      This is a comedy show. Comedy is not empty "chuckles and happy days." Colbert was in no way undermining the gravity of what is happening. He merely coaxed the guest into the irony of yesterday's events, and how our own country has been tap dancing in the minefield of authoritarian rule. Irony and comedy are very close cousins.

  • @switchmuso
    @switchmuso Před 2 lety +7

    Very moving at 5.00 when Julia talks about how hard Ukrainians are fighting to keep Democracy alive.

  • @rossmclellan8875
    @rossmclellan8875 Před 2 lety

    Wow....brilliant person.....I mean when she spoke about democracy I got chills...
    And I'm not even American. (Canadian)

  • @briannelson9351
    @briannelson9351 Před 2 lety

    Thank you Julia

  • @silcrow
    @silcrow Před 2 lety +9

    This was a great interview

  • @camelo1495
    @camelo1495 Před 2 lety +4

    Thank you for introducing this person to us. Would love to sit down and listen more to her intellect. Absolutely brilliant guest and I really listened intently....sorry.

  • @dano727
    @dano727 Před rokem

    Julia is Delightful !

  • @byrnez2755
    @byrnez2755 Před 2 lety +3

    I admire her. I admire her insight. I admire her thoughtfulness. I admire how much she is dedicated to learning about this story-line, day-in, day-out.

  • @ernestpaul2484
    @ernestpaul2484 Před 2 lety +84

    Her voice almost cracking as she answers the questions shows her emotional involvement as well as her intellectual one.

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      @yc9185 Před 2 lety

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    • @johnbolton2149
      @johnbolton2149 Před 2 lety +2

      I interpreted her constant throat clearing as being due to dry mouth & nervousness caused by public speaking. Reasons being she did it consistently throughout interview, even at points where there was lil to no reason to be emotional, just speaking matter of factly. Also she’s a Russian born woman, takes a lot more than a 6 minute analysis themed discussion to crack them emotionally.

    • @ernestpaul2484
      @ernestpaul2484 Před 2 lety +1

      @@johnbolton2149 Yeah, she is born in Moscow. But one would think that after immigrating here in 2007 at the age of 25, she would have shredded some of that "Russian hardness". Maybe, just maybe, it was because unlike Putin and his inner circle, the majority of the Russian people are completely against the invasion into Ukraine. Since she has so close ties to the people of Russia, she feels the same way.

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    • @marciss8372
      @marciss8372 Před 2 lety +1

      @@johnbolton2149 I don't think basing your opinions of people on corny Hollywood cliches is helpful. The whole format of the show is quite bizarre, would they be discussing 9/11 like this? You can tell by her "ironic" laugh. And, yes, she was choking up.

  • @Cyndance
    @Cyndance Před 2 lety +80

    Thank you for having her on. Bless her and all her people. The Russians don't want this either.

    • @nevadak3424
      @nevadak3424 Před 2 lety +11

      @Don Dimon they dont elect him dumbo! He passed a decree so he could be president for life! Abd hes gotten rid of all his opponents! Permanently!!

    • @mishynaofficial
      @mishynaofficial Před 2 lety +3

      @@nevadak3424 they could do a Revolution dumbo. Like we, Ukrainians, do it for every autocrat.
      But the truth is that most of Russians, civilians and military, believe what Putin believes. They may not even support Putin, they may not support hot war, but still they are imperialists and N*zis. They hate Poland for telling the world about the crimes of Russia (which divided Poland three times in the 18th century and divided Poland with Hitler in 1939 and occupied Poland with the Communists until 1989). They think ex-USSR countries and cultures belong to them. They consider others inferior to them. Many of Russians said it on camera, it's all over CZcams, ready for the Nuremberg Trials 2.

    • @imtheboss1826
      @imtheboss1826 Před 2 lety

      If the Russian soldiers would refuse to fight.....

    • @chrisslashmann5044
      @chrisslashmann5044 Před 2 lety +4

      @@mishynaofficial as a Russian I assure you that what you're saying is nonsense. Idiots are always the loudest, so it may seem like they form a majority, and this is exactly what they want you to believe. This initiates spiral of silence, which divides people further and further apart... See, it even tricked you

    • @mishynaofficial
      @mishynaofficial Před 2 lety +1

      @@chrisslashmann5044 i do not care. You and your children and your grandchildren will pay reparations to Ukrainians for 100 years. Your children and grandchildren will ask you "Grandfather, what did you do to stop Putler?". Now live with this.

  • @davidhaworth7152
    @davidhaworth7152 Před 2 lety

    Julia is the best. Bravo

  • @christinegivens9048
    @christinegivens9048 Před 2 lety

    Watch her PBS interview from 2017. Wow. What an articulate and bright journalist!

  • @possumGFX
    @possumGFX Před 2 lety +12

    Julia Ioffe has an interview on youtube where she explains the origins of Putin and its one of the most insightful things you can watch to educate yourself.

    • @skeeterbodeen8326
      @skeeterbodeen8326 Před 2 lety

      Yes it is a must see... plus there’s a second “newer” one on the current war.

  • @eileenrobinson8014
    @eileenrobinson8014 Před 2 lety +3

    Well said! Democracy is on guard!

  • @karlvonbahnhof6594
    @karlvonbahnhof6594 Před rokem

    Ive just watched her interview on PBS frontline, she is so clever, her insights are just spot on, everyone should listen to her, plus she is so beautiful!

  • @theveryfirst
    @theveryfirst Před rokem

    Never a wiser word spoken! She's good!!!!

  • @The_Notorious_N.O.E.
    @The_Notorious_N.O.E. Před 2 lety +6

    She didn't sugarcoat it and I think we can all at least appreciate that

  • @nannettehuffman8397
    @nannettehuffman8397 Před 2 lety +8

    Man, she is right on point about democracy!!!

  • @resevoirdog
    @resevoirdog Před 2 lety +2

    No way !! I'm a huge Julia Loffie fan I never thought she'd be on a show like this !

  • @johnmcdonald8567
    @johnmcdonald8567 Před 2 lety

    I've just discovered her tonight after watching the Frontline doc on Putin. She's outstanding.

  • @laalaa99stl
    @laalaa99stl Před 2 lety +190

    Hoping that Ukraine becomes Russia's Iraq seems like a pretty bleak thing to hold up as a best case scenario. Thanks for not sugar coating things for us too much there.

    • @sunseeker9581
      @sunseeker9581 Před 2 lety +4

      At the end of the day ukraine aren't a nato country so they won't get the support they need.

    • @luckyfisherman2152
      @luckyfisherman2152 Před 2 lety +8

      So why did Americans go and die in Iraq again? Do the Iraqis suffer less after the war US brought on them?

    • @sunseeker9581
      @sunseeker9581 Před 2 lety +5

      @@luckyfisherman2152 because sadaam Hussain was getting too big for his boots. But I agree Iraq was a total mess. Just like Afghanistan. War very rarely ends well

    • @lucasgrey9794
      @lucasgrey9794 Před 2 lety +6

      @@sunseeker9581 Are you a boomer? How can you seriously still buy the official narrative on the Iraq war? There is no excuse for such ignorance on your part. Saddam did NOTHING to deserve the destruction of Iraq.

    • @sunseeker9581
      @sunseeker9581 Před 2 lety +12

      @@lucasgrey9794 he didn't have chemical weapons but he was a dictator. The invasion maybe shouldn't of happened but he was certainly no saint.

  • @hanskrill5625
    @hanskrill5625 Před 2 lety +30

    Wow, if you'd scripted this scene, you couldn't have made it more impactful in that nuanced way where I suddenly realised she's personally, emotionally involved in this conflict. Also, having to try 3 times at a best-case scenario only serves to show how dire the situation is.

  • @leoncapsouto6391
    @leoncapsouto6391 Před rokem

    I love you Julia you sound terrific and admire your knowledge

  • @brinsonopinion
    @brinsonopinion Před 2 lety +3

    I just watched all 3 segments - never seen this woman before but she is GOOD & I will remember her name, seek out her content. Thanks The Late Show.

  • @SuperMTight
    @SuperMTight Před 2 lety +65

    Wow, what a fantastic interview. Can you make Julia a regular segment for the next weeks while Putin's shit keeps hitting the fan? I feel that her comments would contribute greatly to keeping sanity.

  • @HannahTrapeze
    @HannahTrapeze Před rokem

    #DemocracyIsWork. Ioffe is brilliant. I'm a new fan.

  • @Anton-ji4td
    @Anton-ji4td Před rokem

    Julia Loffe is great. I really like her. Really entertaining, funny and good value.

  • @miguelidcomm
    @miguelidcomm Před 2 lety +17

    She’s absolutely right: We already have a Democracy. Let’s just make it better. So learn about politics. Stay vigilant. Stop acting out of emotion, and start acting with reason. We can do this, America. 🙏🇺🇸

  • @Tim_Shu
    @Tim_Shu Před 2 lety +6

    Really liked her interview, she's clued up

  • @andresgonzalez-gm5ry
    @andresgonzalez-gm5ry Před 2 lety

    I LOVE Julia, she's great!

  • @peterheise4956
    @peterheise4956 Před 2 lety

    Julia paints a picture that is clearer than any politician ever has. She is not only smart but also beautiful. Excellent!

  • @objuan6
    @objuan6 Před 2 lety +4

    I applaud MrColbert broadening the scope of his satire.

  • @irynayakymets9758
    @irynayakymets9758 Před 2 lety +14

    I think it's nice Julia acknowledges how hard we're fighting for our freedom. But Ukraine hasn't had democracy for a couple of decades. Our history goes back centuries. Kyiv Rus, the Kozacs - that's our history, that's when our democracy started, not after the fall of the Soviet Union. The first constitution in Ukraine (and one of the oldest in the world) was written by Pylyp Orlyk in 1710. It's obvious that our history is only known to us - Ukrainians. But we're extremely proud of it, of our ancestors, and we're not exactly new at this.

    • @lolodee3528
      @lolodee3528 Před 2 lety +1

      Kyiv, so rich in history. Traversed by so many cultures. I hope to see Kyiv one day. Free from Pu's nastiness.

    • @akc1739
      @akc1739 Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you for this comment. Respect.

    • @ladybug5859
      @ladybug5859 Před 2 lety +2

      That was a very good point and it reminded me of the two-hour documentary called the history of ruse it was really excellent and it went back to the founding of Ukraine Bruce which preceded the kissing with Vladimir into the Orthodox Church and when I recall vividly and it made explicit in the documentary as that they've been fighting over an in Ukraine for millenniums and they always fought for freedom while Russia itself has never known freedom and never fought for freedom but always capitulated to the strongman in all events that's what I took the documentary and it confirms what you said just now I'm not sure if she knows the history of Ukraine because I think her studies were dealing with Russia and she doesn't have Ukrainian Roots but she's actually a Russian Jew so so she was trying to make the contest of a new and young democracy versus an older democracy like ours which is often and is complacent and by Young mean that only recently they finally got the Russian puppets out and couldn't let their own person so

    • @ridethepace6005
      @ridethepace6005 Před rokem +1

      As a US citizen, I have to express how much respect many of us feel for you and your countrymen and women. I will gladly sacrifice any amount of support my country sends to you in this time of need. As your President says, you are not only fighting for yourselves, but for all free people. My heart aches for your loss, and hope that one day we get to see Putin dangle before his people the way Mussolini did.

  • @anpmech
    @anpmech Před rokem

    I love Julia’s take on this and her expertise. She’s an amazing woman and fascinating to listen to.

  • @Phulosophy369
    @Phulosophy369 Před 2 lety

    Julia and Masha Gassen. Amazing jounalists !

  • @83don37
    @83don37 Před 2 lety +21

    She almost made me 🥺🥺🥺🥺 at the end. This is definitely a horrible situation

  • @denisecrawford5289
    @denisecrawford5289 Před 2 lety +3

    Oh my! Just roll that last bit over and over on all channels until everyone gets it!! Bye Don please vote and vote well🙏

  • @johnskelly7648
    @johnskelly7648 Před rokem

    I'm a superfan of Julia's. Love her.

  • @CanadaRulez4Ever
    @CanadaRulez4Ever Před 2 lety

    Julia is always such a sunshine

  • @michalotten9722
    @michalotten9722 Před 2 lety +4

    Please have her on again just in general, not just in reaction to Russian aggression. What a great interview.

  • @barandayiyer5976
    @barandayiyer5976 Před 2 lety +6

    As an Indian, I feel what she says in the end is pure gold.

  • @migueljaquez4455
    @migueljaquez4455 Před rokem

    This Lady knows what she is talking about.... May God bless her... n guide her to educate our politicians.... n d people of the USA.....

  • @chrisgreen7725
    @chrisgreen7725 Před 2 lety +12

    We should more of her as a guest; not only during disasters. She has an insight I want to hear more of.

    • @yc9185
      @yc9185 Před 2 lety

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  • @justinelord95
    @justinelord95 Před 2 lety +4

    Love her a realist a definite wake-up call to all nations who hold democracy as it’s political system