Senator Tester is one of the best guests from Washington he's had on his show. Calmly answers questions and makes his points and above all, doesn't try to shout over the other panelists, which is far too common on this show. Let John Heilemann finish his remark before saying his point.
he is utterly corrupt. More lobbyist money taken thatn anyone. Definition of legalised bribery. Hes against climate action and rasiing min wage....................he is a cancer
most people dont know that less than 200 thousand people total died when the US dropped the atom bomb on hiroshima and nagasaki . these clowns are talking about millions of people dying from one nuke and thats actually a myth and the truth is that nobody knows because a nuke has never even been dropped and the closest thing to it was the atom bomb and that didnt even come close to killing one million .
It's a shame they didn't spend more time listening to her analysis of Putin's long term attitudes and mental state. The other discussion of how to respond is proven. If he fires one he will fire more so if he fires one the only answer is to that is fire all you have. It's the only, _best_ chance destroy a lunatic.
@@nunya___ I think Heileman's point about staying conventional is the right move. we have enough massive conventional warheads to level Moscow without escalating up the nuclear ladder
You are correct…Loffe is spot on…Bill says maybe it’s Putins “brinksmanship”….sorry in my opinion if a nuclear threat is brinksmanship we are all doomed
jpan, I challenge you. I challenge you to tell me exactly what you gained from this segment. What did you learn? What expanded your mind in any way to improve it? What I got from it, is a "Russian expert" at the start, saying that Bill and Her were 'Comparing ourselves to Putin' before the segment started. Also, the bald guy giving Russia advice on which parts of the Country to attack, that wouldn't be part of the NATO agreement so nothing could be done about the attack on a world stage. That's what I got, because I listened. What did you get from this? If you don't answer, that's the loudest answer you could give me. I'll watch and wait to see your reply, doubtful it will ever come.
Senator Tester is my new formerly unknown, highly admired person. Montana! Who knew? I hope he comes back. I loved these guests together. They didn't once talk over eachother!Great discussion.
he is utterly corrupt. More lobbyist money taken than anyone. Definition of legalised bribery. Hes against climate action and raising min wage....................he is a cancer, a political gun for hire, fn disgrace of a man
Bill Maher is a master at brain washing, and a hypocrite, he wants to portray him self as a liberal, however does not allow any one to disagree with him and go out of his way to get guests he would manipulate. what's going on in Ukraine is not fair to the Ukrainian people, however who is actually responsible for their suffering, in United States, as usual the other side is deprived from their narrative, it is the usual practice of United States of America, their citizens and the citizens of the western world should hear the American side of the story, the other side is evil and should be banned. Putin is a dictator and a criminal, that is granted, however what should we say about our leaders, they are toys in the hands of big corporations who are blood thirsty criminal cartels. so non of the regimes controlling this world are innocent. the world should move towards peace, however the fact that America keeps on strengthening the NATO alliance, which means that the world is moving towards mass slaughter, what is the point of NATO expansion. Russia has simple requirements, 1. NATO halt their expansion. 2. Ukraine does not join the EU. 3. Ukraine is neutral, this is not impossible and easy to do, however America is refusing all that and push Ukraine to this confrontation. Now the one trillion dollar question, who is responsible for the blood of the Ukrainians, was it Putin who wants to defend his country, the American government who instigated this problem and refused to back down, or the Ukrainian government who wants it war till the last man standing. I hope we use intelligence to think about this question and let us stop being brain washed by this orchestrated propaganda. thank you.
@@markusheller11 all you said its nice and neat almost not like kremlins general line.You forget 1 crucial thing tho.Ukrainians chose with their vote the EU.So whatever russians want is not what Ukrainians want.Only US or the west fault in here is that their countries are run better which was appealing to the people of Ukraine.Keep doing russian bidding tho we all need money.
@@Gess575 czcams.com/video/kSNo2FPQDQw/video.html So, PBS just did a story on Putin. But this is some of the footage they used. I implore you to watch the entirety. She is highly intelligent, family fled when she was 7 I think, and was born in Russia, so knows the landscape.
I love Julia Loffe, watched her Frontline interviews/documentaries back in 2017 and again when Putin invaded Ukraine. Do yourself a favor and watch it, it is gold. Her insight and facts is incredible. And the best part was that so many others that made similar interviews at Frontline said the exact same things. None of them are surprised by this, they expected it. Her looks when John Heilemann is making the argument that even the idea of a small error could be catastrophic. She don't buy the mistakes, she fears Putin will do this. And sounds like, that is exactly what Bill think as well. I sure hope they both are wrong, but this is definitely a crucial moment in history. This is Biden's Cuba Missile Crisis.
His objective is to destroy Ukraine if he can't rule it. That's why he's been destroying cities. The longer it takes Ukraine to rebuild and QUALIFY for joining nato is Putins newest goal.
@@quietstrm11 yeah, I laughed at that too. But I think it was more to how, he get him too, and a way to let us the audience know, this is where I am going with this. I mean this episode was so good, on all parts. Guests, comedy, facts, it was classic bill when he is best.
@@williamerickson520 I honestly didn't think he would invade. Anyone that is not a fucking idiot, would know that was a terrible idea. Like the worst he had ever had. And I thought, like many, that he really was too smart for that. but here we are, and they predicted it. Cause they actually know him. So I listen to them, ad not my own gut feelings. Because we clearly dealing with a psychopath.
Keep dreaming old timer.....try getting your news from an outlet that hasn't lied to you for the last 20 years about everything and you might wake up. Putin is sitting pretty.....America is suffering.....India,China and Saudi Arabia have all left the building.....the days for America as you knew it are numbered. China alone owns $1 trillion of US debt.....Biden arranged part of the fall with his "transitory" money printing inflation...... Wake up.
I said it when Jon Tester was on Real Time last time and I'll say it again. That man should be our next president. His previous appearance brought that home more than this one, but still. The guy's a rock star.
@@raycebannon6374 Hmmm. So you own nothing made in China or another communist country like Vietnam? Doubtful. Try practicing what you preach. If you do, you'll find it's pretty much impossible. America supports China more than any other single country because we buy more crap from them, because it's cheap. And that's the reality.
he is utterly corrupt. More lobbyist money taken than anyone. Definition of legalised bribery. Hes against climate action and raising min wage....................he is a cancer, a political gun for hire, fn disgrace of a man
Fifty years ago I was a cryptographer in a theoretical nuke test, in 24 hours 1/3 of the world dies, 30 days later another 1/3 had died from the fallout, and by one year everyone else died because there was no one left to save anyone. There is no outcome worth it’s use.
Thanks for that detail explaining how it's simply not an option. That's a very useful explanation especially in it's simplicity. Unfortunately as useful as that is just to know, a means of getting no one to ever even consider using them (and better yet eradicating them and gathering and disposing of the existing lost nukes) is needed. Much less avoiding proliferation. It feels like a Chinese finger trap.
@@myguykaikai9215 They're opposed to regulations that keep other people and the land safe from their greed it doesn't make sense because they are liars. They've just twisted the idea of a Libertarian to suit their purposes.
@@jeffblack4039 You guys were the government and vaccine haters back some years ago. Now that the Ratz are in office you so conveniently changed your position on this matters.
@@Paul-ew5st Does it make sense to get our oil from countries with almost no regulations to extract it , rather than get it extracted from here with way more regulations than them?
No way. I was embarrassed for her when she was talking about Botox and plastic surgery toward the end and told Bill that Putin was “just like you and me”. Her joke early on was awful too. Just because she’s from Russia doesn’t make her an expert, what credibility and resume does she have.
Yes, more neocons please. Having them as the sole expert on every news show discussing foreign policy is just not enough. After decades of pushing for disastrous nation building and regime change wars, they are bound to eventually get one right. Maybe this will be the time, if world doesn’t get blown up first by backing a major nuclear power into a corner this time around.
Please don't be scared. It is highly unlikely that Putin will drop a nuke. He is not that crazy. He's a very rich man. He wants to live and enjoy it. Lots of people are like Chicken Little. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! I am more worried about Reublicans than Putin.
@@---Dana---- Perhaps but society as a whole shouldn't even have to fear that some maniac could one day take charge of the nuclear arsenal or that even a competent leader could mistakenly think that an adversary fired a nuke at them and then retaliate. No country should have what is essentially the basic ability to end the world as we know it with the touch of a button and I'm beyond bitter that those of us who just want to live our lives in peace get subjugated to this BS.
@@svscared , I'm 71 and we did nuclear attack drills where all the kids in school had to hide under our little desks. This was in the SF Bay Area, so we were also always hearing about the big earthquake coming any day now. So it's decades later and nothing happened. Fear of things that you can't do anything about is an emotion that buys you absolutely nothing. I hope you find peace.
He's a F'n idiot, dude says Trump did some bad stuff and should be prosecuted, meanwhile I bet Tester is a multi millionaire due to insider trading just like the rest of Congress, Dems and Reps, those 2 idiots resigned because they wanted to keep on with a investigation that was leading nowhere and should of never been started, if they Trump on camera J walking they would of indicted him guaranteed, they have nothing and will never have anything, yall have been lied to from the very beginning by MSM
Bill you are the cure to this idiotic Qanon!!! Your show should be part of the high school curriculum !! Keep up the great work! and Thank you for the weekly fresh air you provide us!
I ran an outdoor rock climbing park in Thailand. Dozens of young folks from all over the world, would visit weekly. I've worked shoulder to shoulder with Ukrainians and Russians. They're all fine folks. Putin has his head stuck in putrid manure. He learned nothing from the history of Stalingrad during WWII.
He is a left wing lunatic nut. Perfect example of media bias that indoctrinates instead of reporting. At least the other two guests were resonable people.
When Reagan was about to be operated on, after being shot...he said to the doctors, "I hope you are all Republicans"....one of the doctors said, "Mr. President--right now, everyone is a Republican!"...we have to get back that feeling of solidarity in our country....Patriotism is more important than Party affiliation....I say this, as a liberal Democrat.
he is utterly corrupt. More lobbyist money taken than anyone. Definition of legalised bribery. Hes against climate action and raising min wage....................he is a cancer, a political gun for hire, fn disgrace of a man
The media I’m sure wants escalation….good for ratings. Military Contractors likely want it to escalate…good for business. Sadly, money is more important than lives or peace.
@jon pork a no fly zone means taking out Surface to Air weapons being manned by Russians. It means shooting down Russian Jets …….please stop talking about this subject.
I'm constantly getting feed about how much we're going to die. All the ways. News like "US doomsday plane is already deployed, spotted in The UK" "Commercial flights and vacations to Florida cancelled for April". Earthquakes and two meteor strikes tonight and tomorrow, don't know how big or where, no information about that. Ends up being I look out the window, it's still okay here every day.
@@anaibarangan4908 Well we're not all going to die just a lot of us. How many people who got covid a year ago were sure they would stick around for more decades if you asked them in 2019? Stop taking it for granted!
The first episode of Club Random with William Shatner was great, thanks for giving your audience another way of connecting with you! I am as critical of Bill as most others he is not always right or funny sometimes but most of the time he exposes you to different perspectives and he respects his guests while finding common ground or shaming his guests when they are way off of societal norms that is what I appreciate. Cheers!
You can't respond in kind with nuclear weapons...it's unwinnable... Send B-52s and stealth bombers to attack the bases that launched it, but you can't launch nukes in kind...
he is utterly corrupt. More lobbyist money taken thatn anyone. Definition of legalised bribery. Hes against climate action and raising min wage....................he is a cancer
This is serious as a heart attack. For those of us born in the 60’s and 70’s, we grew up wondering if that’s how it would end. Did we just buy ourselves one more generation before the nuclear winter? I thought we decided as a people long ago that this was NOT the way to go.
No teabaggers, just a table full of neocons pretending to be liberal taking about using nukes in response! These pussies couldn’t win an arm wrestling match against a woman. (A real woman) now they’re ready for a war they’ll never fight.
@@tres311 **. Blah blah blah !!! Talk about fake tough guys !! Your guy Trump,,, never served in the military... But he was the ultimate ,,, wannabe tough guy,,, who admires Putin's toughness !!! That guy who's killing innocent children in Ukraine !!!!... Why is it that Republican men start wars,,, that always kill innocent people ???? **
if you’re male. he didn’t respect the only russian born, most studied in this area finish her thoughts. just look at how he he barely turns to acknowledge her. has anyone even successfully suggested he’s not sexist?
If the game is lost, then we're all the same No one left to place or take the blame We will leave this place an empty stone Or that shining ball of blue we call our home
Yesterday, on Democracy Now, we heard Yanis, the former Greek Finance Minister, and commentator, cited an ancient Chinese quote that said that you always leave an enemy a Golden Bridge across which he can return with his dignity intact. The West has not provided that, only escalation. We will be the authors of our own misfortune, I fear.
That's what i have been saying as well, either Zelenskyy takes the deal, or they need to leave a "grace period", although my reference comes from Seinfeld, it still has the same core message, haha
Ms Ioffe is such an important speaker on Russia and presents the best wisdom with such a well informed command of history, facts and analysis I can't get enough. Her views are so developed and considered I want her to host a Sunday morning talk show on International affairs while maintaining her UN duties and President Biden should have her opppinted to his cabinet, with the least of these being the Sunday show. But for the love of God someone get her in the room with President Biden.
If one country commits genocide, another country shouldn't retaliate by also committing genocide. If one country uses nukes, the other country should not retaliate with nukes. Use cyber attacks to permanently disable and deactivate all nukes around the world.
Haven't been watching since Bill went off on his "I'm so over Covid" 3 month rant, but I liked his guest lineup tonight. Julia Ioffe should be the "go to" guest for everyone regarding Russia topics.
Carseye1: Julia Ioffe is the perfect example, that anyone can call themself an "Expert". Worse, people believe her. If you really want to understand what's happening with Russia, maybe listen to a real expert like Scott Ritter.
@@Vanderearden Please tell me. What has Ioffe gotten wrong? Scott Ritter? You mean the convicted child sex offender? (Charges: unlawful contact with a minor, criminal use of a communications facility, corruption of minors, indecent exposure, possessing instruments of crime, and criminal solicitation). The walking "conflict of interest"? Who tells energy conglomerates that he has "nations in his pocket"? Who has been described by many as "unstable" and "attention starved"? He claims that the American government suspected him of spying for Israel; that Norman Schwarzkopf, the gulf-war general, once had him arrested, that the FBI hounded his wife for years because they thought she was KGB? All without one shred of evidence. That guy?
@@carseye1219 I’m not saying that Scott Ritter is innocent but you just heard this panel admit that it is STANDARD PROTOCOL for the powerful [eg ex presidents] to get away with their crimes. Biden, Trump, Pompeo, Obama, Hill Clinton, Bush, Rumsfeld, are all certifiable WAR CRIMINALS walking free. While Julian Assange rots in prison for the crime of JOURNALISM & exposing US/UK WAR CRIMES. All this to say that there is no real justice in our land. It doesn’t surprise me AT ALL that Scott Ritter was locked up for ABC & XYZ. Like it doesn’t surprise me that John Kiriakou & all of the other CIA & FBI whistleblowers end up being arrested for _____. The only whistleblower who escaped this fate was Bill Benney who was 3 steps ahead of the criminals who run our government.
There's a strong element of a hostage situation staged by an aggrieved, estranged boyfriend whose reactions to the police are tinged with apparent irrationality. Told the house is surrounded, he threatens to fill the house with gas and light it up. He might choose blowing up the neighborhood, or he might be dealing for an out - a helicopter + $1M. Seen the movie.
There is a famous quote from Albert Einstein that goes something like this , """I am not sure where ,when , or how WW3 will be fought , but I am sure WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones.""
US representatives always say, when it comes to war, “Everything is on the table” Which means EVERYTHING Putin is not the first to put nukes on the table
No but he probably is the craziest since Stalin to do so. A man in power for 22 years with no counter levers of checks on that power leads to insanity. Putins unchecked power has driven him insane and kept him trapped in a 20th century mindset he can't escape. He's a man living in the past trapped by that past and his insanity could possibly doom us all.
As evil as he is, I gotta think Putin doesn't really want to spend the rest of his days living underground like a gopher because he just had to engage in a nuclear exchange with the US.
Exactly - so quick we forget that we had major hawks that after WWII wanted the US to use nuclear weapons to take over the world. Then Gen Curtis Lemay I think it was, and others wanted to use nukes against North Korea and China, and then Nixon wanted to nuke Viet Nam, and of course Trump probably doesn't even know what nukes are, but kept wondering why we can't use them. The US has been in a covert undeclared war with Russia since we lied to them about not moving NATO to the East. The one issue that Noam Chomsky and Henry Kissinger agree on is that moving NATO to the east is/was a very bad idea and never should have been done. Yet, we keep doing it. We siphoned 20 billion dollars to Ukraine to bring about the 2014 coup, and keep pushing to bring Ukraine into NATO - the reason was that a Rand Corporation report from the 60's I think it was said that to destabilize and overthrown Russia - Ukraine was the key. Putin knows this, we know he knows it, he knows we know ... but the stupid American people are kept in the dark.
@@gallery7596 Assuming that he is a rational person by any normal standard, his ego, paranoia, and obsession with his legacy could in a worst case scenario lead him, backed into a corner, to go all out, enraged that if he can't have it his way, no one will. Scores of people in the middle east display this kind of dogmatic self-sacrifice, though obviously for different reasons, but it shows you that with enough conviction, and just a touch of insanity, people are willing to do preposterous things.
Omg. Everyone's in this situation BECAUSE PUTIN INVADED UKRAINE. No one else did. And if America's "out nukes on the table" it's only as a defensive move not an offensive one.
_ of course, any discussion about possible usage of nuclear weaponry is quite mesmirizing - with the unspoken question being "...is that wannabe czar 💀blood💀putin💀 this century's 'human extinction event'.." ❓❗❓
I’ve studied nuclear weapons nuclear war since I was seven. Every scenario imaginable. John Heilemann really hit the nail on the head. It’s quite sobering on how rapidly these scenarios can spiral out of control. It’s a variation of the “classic“ Cold War NATO/Warsaw Pact scenario. Conventional conflict followed by chemical weapons use into tactical nuclear exchanges and finally into full scale strategic exchanges (what is termed “general” nuclear war). It escalates *so* fast.
@@peacelovejoy8786 I was precocious. I had (and still have) an extremely scientifically oriented mind at a very young age. I found it all fascinating. I remember drawing diagrams on the board in second grade trying to explain fission to my classmates.
It's interesting that in their nuclear conversation the panel ignores the 45th *pOTUS threatening to obliterate the country of Iran (obviously by nukes) if they interfere with the US navy again. Obviously multiple warheads. Should the world have taken Trump seriously?
@@TheNukewarfare2 Interesting. You did it second grade; I did it in sixth grade. Did my science fair project on nuclear weapons. This was in the 1960's. Try getting away with that today.
Does anyone else remember the Cuban Missile Crisis? A month before my 11th birthday. I still live less than a hundred miles from Oak Ridge, Tennessee. We knew Oak Ridge would be a target. I remember being scared. Kennedy had Generals and Cabinet leaders wanting him to invade Cuba. Kruschev had people telling him to attack. It was scary as he'll a few years later when I read the book telling just how close to nuclear war that we were.
I don't remember it cuz I wasn't around (but my parents and grandparents and lots of folks still around were). And I HAVE studied it and watched documentaries on it and yeah, that was a crazy crazy close and absolutely not fun situation. LOTS of parallels to what's going on now unfortunately. It gets tiring trying to study and learn / know history with the aim of not repeating it, when no one else seems interested in doing the same. Kind of has to be a group value. And that group being one's fellow citizens, community, country and the world.
@@tinaperez7393 The problem is, this isn't about groups. This is about one crazy, paranoid little old man who wants to leave a legacy at all costs. How can learning from history be useful in this case?
@@Adam-nw1vy It's not at all costs that he wants to win. He knows there's a point where there won't be any point in a victory if one is even possible and he's not interest in that. He may have been shown signs of cutting his losses and backing down already as he's declared success with the military exercises just yesterday in Russia. As for history, "Leave your enemy a way to escape" Or the more common heard version "leave your enemy a golden bridge to retreat upon" - Sun Tzu, Art of War approx. 450-220 BCE.
putin has run all these war games as well, people need to stop fear mongering the public and pressuring politicians publicly. the likelihood of him using a small nuke is not zero but it is very low for all the reasons enumerated in this segment.
Bill's "How can you let it stand" comment in regards to nuclear war, really should also be applied to what Putin is doing right now in Ukraine with conventional forces. This is the real problem - drawing the line at nuclear use is like relying on your safety in football, you really need to oppose the actions well before it gets to that point.
Agreed. By the time it gets to that point millions have died. I wish Poland or some smaller power would roll into Ukraine and drive the Russian out. I can't see any Putin stopping
Best show in a while, Bill. Love Heilman, Ioffi. Tester might’ve been replaced by a Republican, though I happen to like the only working farmer in the senate. Nice ‘New Rules’ and new westerns bit, too.
@@briangrigsby1842 Just the part about Tester being a Democrat and not loyal to Trump and his entire world view. But other than that yeah the same thing.
@@sandyunderpants4376 You just can't be too far to the Left anymore. This show was 100% pro-Democrat and malcontents still chime in here and let the world know how Bill Maher is such a Trump guy and also to the right of Atilla the Hun.
@Xaspirate... Maybe that’s because working class Americans have been left behind and haven’t had any real representation in Washington for the last 30+ years? Maybe that has something to do with it? Maybe because they say they care about making healthcare affordable but have kicked the can down the road since Nancy first introduced the idea BACK IN THE 1990’s!!! Maybe because Obama bailed out his WallStreet friends and let the predatory banks off the hook? Maybe NAFTA? Maybe how hard they fought to smear Bernie Sanders and all his supporters as radical commies... Maybe, just maybe. 😉
@@briangrigsby1842 democrats who live & work in montana are not going to behave like dems from other urban zones .. it comes with the climate & terrain ..
Between 2003 and 2007, Virginia Thomas, a longtime conservative activist, earned $686,589 from the Heritage Foundation, according to a Common Cause review of the foundation’s IRS records. Thomas failed to note the income in his Supreme Court financial disclosure forms for those years, instead checking a box labeled “none” where “spousal noninvestment income” would be disclosed.
Around the same time, the late 2000s, Charlie Rangel, a longtime Democrat congressman and chairman, failed to disclose hundreds of thousands of dollars in assets on personal disclosure forms, did not pay state or federal taxes on income from a villa he owned in the Dominican Republic, and helped preserve a tax loophole for oil companies while seeking to secure a $1 million contribution from an oil company for the Rangel Center.
@@JK-br1mu How does one wrongdoing offset the other? Because one is R and one is D? Rangel's punishment was not what it could have been, but his power and his career were essentially over. In Thomas's case - so far - zero accountability and none on the horizon
@@JK-br1mu Sorry to break it to you, but Charlie Rangel is dead. Current legislation would restrict both Republican and Democratic congressmen from insider trading. Plenty of abuse on both sides. However, what Ginni Thomas did will always be despicable and a slap in the face to rule of law and separation of powers. She is the new poster child for traitor. Her husband was a patent lawyer from Monsanto corp before the GOP discovered what a patsy he could be. No Constitutional law or trial experience. He was a deciding vote in Bush v Gore, the first GOP overthrow of the government in 2000.
Insider and several other news organizations have identified 59 members of Congress who've recently failed to properly report their financial trades as mandated by the Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge Act of 2012, also known as the STOCK Act.
@@robertjohnson801 no worries, the New York Times and other newspapers recounted all the votes after the 2000 election, and discovered that even if the 2nd recount had gone ahead and not been stopped 5-4, Al Gore would still have lost. "Examining the Vote: The Overview; Study of Disputed Florida Ballots Finds Justices Did Not Cast the Deciding Vote", New York Times, November 12, 2001. So you're good.
I don't know what is so hard about this, if you start throwing nukes everybody dies. Look around you, everybody you love, everything you care about, ceases to exist. We have walked up to that edge at least twice and there was no war going on. This is a true "Don't Look Up" moment.
If you think the other guy is scared & won't fire back, you might fire first to scare them off, the definition of brinkmanship suddenly includes nuclear as it did chemical in Syria. :(
Putin has many many nukes but even if he manages to use some of them I doubt very strongly 1) he gets even fraction of them in air at time or 2) they work as planned - aka it all goes "very russian". Therefor, great loss of life but no armageddon.
I get the impression that John Heilemann is used to being interrupted so he speaks too fast and begins to mumble. When he slows down, he actually sounds relatively intelligent.
@@yasisoufi You nailed it. I Registered Republican in 1977 and left tge party in 2010. I was an extremely moderate Republican, most definitely a social liberal, and voted issue and person not party. I left the Republican party because the entire party lost their shit over the black guy, who I voted for twice, got elected. Mayor, Judge, Senator, congress...ok.nNOT PRESIDENT! NO! The party all around me was all of a sudden UBER CHRISTIAN, and there was absolutely NO pushback from anyone in congress. House in senate, that did one damn thing to tamp down the growing show of outward racism. They all came out from under their rocks and were welcomed. I had not changed...not one iota and all of a sudden my position in politics made me not even a moderate liberal, but even left of that. Most definitely left fringes are there and I would ban them from ztwitter, but there is NOTHING like the mainstream right wing. They have all lost any sense of decency. Full stop. But, liberals and moderate Republicans have always been the fixers. They do not even know where to begin to battle what we have now as a right wing. Bill is right about, yes. We need go respect all people, but stop turning EVERYTHING into fighting for little Karen's and fight for your damn country. We are nit going to have a democracy if the sorry excuse for the Party that calls themselves Republicans get their way. They elected Donald damn Trump!!!!!! They think he is the smartest thing to his the US ever, HOLY CRAP and half of them think he was sent by GOD! Democrats has absolutely no idea or temperament for how to deal with that. Bill is right every single time he says it. Being nice is far more important than winning elections and taking care of people. The right is ALL about doing the scummiest thing they can think of that is going to keep them in office. The left needs to learn to fight back and nit just keep taking punches and picking flowers. Rant over. Any typos? I am on a tablet that add extra consonants at random and crazy azz auto correct. I am bleary eyed after my rant. Not reading snf fixing. You will get the gist.
@@josephmagliocca3628What's the MRA thread? That whole train of thought that Bill was on, lost me. I'm not anti masculinity, men should be who they are, and I'm swooning for Zelensky like the rest of the world ... but isn't it Putin's SUPER TOXIC masculinity that launched this whole nightmare and his broken macho ego that keeps fueling the catastrophe?
@@karleneblaser1261 good rant. I hear ya. I'm a liberal all my life, getting frustrated with some of the weakness. Can't even imagine how hard it is for a sane Republican to watch what that party has become -the hysteria and total delusion with everything is staggering.
This is an awful conversation. Stop talking about nuclear escalation especially with a member of congress, who has actual power, on your stage. Can we please start putting the same effort we use getting Ukraine weapons, into really focusing on diplomacy before more and more civilians are killed.
Bill has really, really moved up to a new level of insight with his commentary the last two seasons. and LMAO at ending the show with "things are built for total global thermonuclear devastation" 🤣
That dolt Helleman talking and partially laughing like a frat boy downing beers at a pub talking theorhetics makes my blood boil. These could be potentially REAL consequences and seeing Loffe's face when he went on that rant shows that she thinks he simply doesn't grasp the true reality for EVERYONE on the PLANET if Russia decides upon this course of action..and we thought only Islamic Fanatics would dare to set forth this scenario (it's not a game with a reset button). You can talk war games and your knowledge about scenarios all you want, but at some point you stop being the fact boy and call it out that Putin needs to be stopped. Loffe brought in how we got to this mess and how there MUST now be a THIRD way. War games are a SCENARIO not a Playbook. And letting Ukraine go it alone is reprehensible. They will be the test run for how far Russia can go in Europe then give the Playbook to Iran and North Korea.
he is utterly corrupt. More lobbyist money taken thatn anyone. Definition of legalised bribery. Hes against climate action and rasiing min wage....................he is a cancer
I disagree with Julia Loffe about the Soviet Union. In the Swedish military I was trained in responding to ABC-weapons (atomic-, biological- and chemical-weapons) and we were taught that the Soviet Union regarded ABC-weapons as "conventional" weapons. The only thing limiting their use i a war was world opinion and they didn't care much about that either.
An alternative to Putin using chemical or nuclear weapons is to send a cruise missile to Putin and hope that Russia doesn't respond, telling them it will be Mutual Assured Destruction if they do.
@@rabbit251 That's what i was thinking as well, Dee Ess Cah Late (sorry) the situation, they've got millions of conventional bombs, enough to carpet Moscow. I don't see the big deal, just fire whatever else you got that isn't a nuke.
@@jakebe4915 I'd rather keep God out of it since it's one of the primary reasons for Putin's war. Putin is a Russian Orthodox Christian who thinks that his calling is to reunite the Russian Orthodox people which, to him, means Russia, Belarus and Ukraine. He sees it as a personal affront that Ukraine's church (where Russian orthodoxy was founded) in 2019 broke out of the Russian Orthodox church. (And I'm an atheist so i don't ask God to do anything)
I think you know this already but in case not, the guy's not "just" a "comedian". Not only can comedians be very astute and accurate in telling truth to power, but he's a very articulate student of history and current events - both foreign and domestic, a great debater and interviewer and has been for over 40 years now and knows more stuff relevant to the business of government than most people in elected office. Zelensky is "just" a comedian too. Along with a law degree and owner of a successful multi million dollar media company. Not to mention legitimately winning 75% of his country's presidential vote and as a non incumbent on an anti corruption platform. (And peacefully ending the involvement in Donbas with Russia) - which Putin was able to spin into being anti russian and an enemy of Russia and russians and russian speakers in Donbas.
Senator Tester is one of the best guests from Washington he's had on his show. Calmly answers questions and makes his points and above all, doesn't try to shout over the other panelists, which is far too common on this show. Let John Heilemann finish his remark before saying his point.
And he actually answers the questions
he is utterly corrupt. More lobbyist money taken thatn anyone. Definition of legalised bribery. Hes against climate action and rasiing min wage....................he is a cancer
SENATOR shit tester
most people dont know that less than 200 thousand people total died when the US dropped the atom bomb on hiroshima and nagasaki . these clowns are talking about millions of people dying from one nuke and thats actually a myth and the truth is that nobody knows because a nuke has never even been dropped and the closest thing to it was the atom bomb and that didnt even come close to killing one million .
And he's on his way out. He will lose his next election.
Julia Ioffe has been sounding the alarm for a long time, she has been right.
It's a shame they didn't spend more time listening to her analysis of Putin's long term attitudes and mental state. The other discussion of how to respond is proven. If he fires one he will fire more so if he fires one the only answer is to that is fire all you have. It's the only, _best_ chance destroy a lunatic.
She’s been right as she’s a part of the neocon deep state and has contributed to causing this war.
@@ocox8659 ooooh. Deep state. The idiot's catch phrase for people smarter than you _actually_ doing something to make the world a better place.
@@nunya___ I think Heileman's point about staying conventional is the right move. we have enough massive conventional warheads to level Moscow without escalating up the nuclear ladder
You are correct…Loffe is spot on…Bill says maybe it’s Putins “brinksmanship”….sorry in my opinion if a nuclear threat is brinksmanship we are all doomed
Overtime ends up being more substantive than the actual show once again.
I agree on your overtime opinion. The full show was so partisan, but that's me.
jpan, I challenge you. I challenge you to tell me exactly what you gained from this segment. What did you learn? What expanded your mind in any way to improve it? What I got from it, is a "Russian expert" at the start, saying that Bill and Her were 'Comparing ourselves to Putin' before the segment started. Also, the bald guy giving Russia advice on which parts of the Country to attack, that wouldn't be part of the NATO agreement so nothing could be done about the attack on a world stage. That's what I got, because I listened. What did you get from this? If you don't answer, that's the loudest answer you could give me. I'll watch and wait to see your reply, doubtful it will ever come.
Panel needs to go back to 3 people. I never watch OT and completely agree.
@@chrisdavis9928 I'm sorry that there's no entertainment options on the right, besides Fox--and they're just a barrel of laughs 24/7
@@prezidenttrump5171 There's more substantial news here, than you'll ever find at Fox and Fiends
Senator Tester is my new formerly unknown, highly admired person. Montana! Who knew? I hope he comes back. I loved these guests together. They didn't once talk over eachother!Great discussion.
he is utterly corrupt. More lobbyist money taken than anyone. Definition of legalised bribery. Hes against climate action and raising min wage....................he is a cancer, a political gun for hire, fn disgrace of a man
Tester has been on many times before.
When Bill is on his game and he has thoughtful, knowledgeable, intelligent guests, there is no better show. This was one.
Other than the clap happy audience.. do they have a clap sign or something?
Bill Maher is a master at brain washing, and a hypocrite, he wants to portray him self as a liberal, however does not allow any one to disagree with him and go out of his way to get guests he would manipulate. what's going on in Ukraine is not fair to the Ukrainian people, however who is actually responsible for their suffering, in United States, as usual the other side is deprived from their narrative, it is the usual practice of United States of America, their citizens and the citizens of the western world should hear the American side of the story, the other side is evil and should be banned. Putin is a dictator and a criminal, that is granted, however what should we say about our leaders, they are toys in the hands of big corporations who are blood thirsty criminal cartels. so non of the regimes controlling this world are innocent. the world should move towards peace, however the fact that America keeps on strengthening the NATO alliance, which means that the world is moving towards mass slaughter, what is the point of NATO expansion. Russia has simple requirements, 1. NATO halt their expansion. 2. Ukraine does not join the EU. 3. Ukraine is neutral, this is not impossible and easy to do, however America is refusing all that and push Ukraine to this confrontation. Now the one trillion dollar question, who is responsible for the blood of the Ukrainians, was it Putin who wants to defend his country, the American government who instigated this problem and refused to back down, or the Ukrainian government who wants it war till the last man standing. I hope we use intelligence to think about this question and let us stop being brain washed by this orchestrated propaganda. thank you.
@@markusheller11 all you said its nice and neat almost not like kremlins general line.You forget 1 crucial thing tho.Ukrainians chose with their vote the EU.So whatever russians want is not what Ukrainians want.Only US or the west fault in here is that their countries are run better which was appealing to the people of Ukraine.Keep doing russian bidding tho we all need money.
Fewer and fewer shows, he has become a conservative curmudgeon who thinks everyone else has changed.
@@markusheller11 Very good Insight
Julia Ioffe is pretty impressive. Would have liked to hear more. She also struck the right tone for such a serious discussion
Same here. Moby wannabe.
I'm racking my brain as to whose podcast she was on, I may have been radio, I just remember listening to her expertise
@@Gess575 czcams.com/video/kSNo2FPQDQw/video.html So, PBS just did a story on Putin. But this is some of the footage they used. I implore you to watch the entirety. She is highly intelligent, family fled when she was 7 I think, and was born in Russia, so knows the landscape.
I could listen to her talk all day 🤤 🤤
check her out...podcasts, interviews, quite a bit out there's she's Incredibly knowledgeable
I love Julia Loffe, watched her Frontline interviews/documentaries back in 2017 and again when Putin invaded Ukraine. Do yourself a favor and watch it, it is gold. Her insight and facts is incredible. And the best part was that so many others that made similar interviews at Frontline said the exact same things. None of them are surprised by this, they expected it.
Her looks when John Heilemann is making the argument that even the idea of a small error could be catastrophic. She don't buy the mistakes, she fears Putin will do this. And sounds like, that is exactly what Bill think as well. I sure hope they both are wrong, but this is definitely a crucial moment in history. This is Biden's Cuba Missile Crisis.
I don't think Putin is going to do that at all. It doesn't suit his objective. But I'm no expert.
Love how Bill mansplains Putin to the Russia expert, lol.
His objective is to destroy Ukraine if he can't rule it. That's why he's been destroying cities. The longer it takes Ukraine to rebuild and QUALIFY for joining nato is Putins newest goal.
@@quietstrm11 yeah, I laughed at that too. But I think it was more to how, he get him too, and a way to let us the audience know, this is where I am going with this. I mean this episode was so good, on all parts. Guests, comedy, facts, it was classic bill when he is best.
@@williamerickson520 I honestly didn't think he would invade. Anyone that is not a fucking idiot, would know that was a terrible idea. Like the worst he had ever had. And I thought, like many, that he really was too smart for that. but here we are, and they predicted it. Cause they actually know him. So I listen to them, ad not my own gut feelings. Because we clearly dealing with a psychopath.
Julia Ioffe is above and beyond these men. Well spoken and articulate. Listen to her!!
Why? She has pro establishment narrative. Stop advertising her.
I totally agree
More of these three please. I wish Tester was a louder voice in the Democratic Party.
Do I hear POTUS. I don't know but this dude seems real.
@@anthonydilugi4672 Unlike the vast majority of his cohorts - AOC virtually the face of Democratic party now --that's all I have to say
@@xaspirate8060 well I don't know your individual preference but, people will always attack what they fear most.
@@xaspirate8060 and conservatives will always fear different and change. It's inherent in their philosophy
Tester said Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas should resign/censored.
I love ❤️ the tone and respect in this conversation
It’s not a funny matter. This is deadly serious.
This was a dynamite guest roster. Bill should have a Senator there more often.
yeah I thought it was one of the better episodes.
That senator will not go to war. He hates America and is a new age nazi.
They need to be on the Frontlines if any war happens.
an overtime worth watching finally
Please Bill get more Senators like this on your show, people who remind us that they are not all completely Nuts.
lmfao
Yeah let’s have a corrupt senator who made millions in inside trading. Google and you’ll find out.
@@gugy68 John Testor just introduced a bill to ban insider trading in congress.
Someone that can define what a woman is would be a good start. 🤔
I’ve been farming for a clip and still have all my fingers - I must be a genius then
Dreams of seeing Putin delivered to the Ukraine troops with a note: "Please forward to the Hague, with our apologies, the Russian People."
And the American people do the same with #trump
& India does the same with #YOGI !!! 🌩
@@MrUnlimitedTorque and you know this how?
That's a beautiful dream
Ukraine has been killing Ukrainians for 14 years, thousands of them, no Hague for them?
Keep dreaming old timer.....try getting your news from an outlet that hasn't lied to you for the last 20 years about everything and you might wake up.
Putin is sitting pretty.....America is suffering.....India,China and Saudi Arabia have all left the building.....the days for America as you knew it are numbered.
China alone owns $1 trillion of US debt.....Biden arranged part of the fall with his "transitory" money printing inflation......
Wake up.
Heileman, is always on point 🤠🍀🍀
I said it when Jon Tester was on Real Time last time and I'll say it again. That man should be our next president. His previous appearance brought that home more than this one, but still. The guy's a rock star.
The dude who loves China, etc., etc. ? You have an interesting perspective.
@@raycebannon6374 Hmmm. So you own nothing made in China or another communist country like Vietnam? Doubtful. Try practicing what you preach. If you do, you'll find it's pretty much impossible. America supports China more than any other single country because we buy more crap from them, because it's cheap. And that's the reality.
@@raycebannon6374 I have zero clue what you're talking about. Except for the etc etc - nice and specific there
he is utterly corrupt. More lobbyist money taken than anyone. Definition of legalised bribery. Hes against climate action and raising min wage....................he is a cancer, a political gun for hire, fn disgrace of a man
Holy hell I need a drink after this video. 🥃
🥂 🍻 Cheers!
Anyone who doesn't want to drink or use some type of drug these days is not paying attention.
Make that 2 drinks!
Love Tester, so glad I live in same State.
Like usual the woman had the smartest answer ❤️
Love it when Bill has John on, there isn’t a more well read reporter than him.
It would be nice if he didn't think he was the only guest. He constantly derails the conversation with babbling.
@@JadeDelphi I agree both with you and the OP
Fifty years ago I was a cryptographer in a theoretical nuke test, in 24 hours 1/3 of the world dies, 30 days later another 1/3 had died from the fallout, and by one year everyone else died because there was no one left to save anyone. There is no outcome worth it’s use.
Thanks for that detail explaining how it's simply not an option. That's a very useful explanation especially in it's simplicity. Unfortunately as useful as that is just to know, a means of getting no one to ever even consider using them (and better yet eradicating them and gathering and disposing of the existing lost nukes) is needed. Much less avoiding proliferation. It feels like a Chinese finger trap.
I don't need anyone to save me...
@@SeanRyno Of course not, you'd already be dead.
@@TDrudley imagine the mentality of a person who thinks that they need the government in order to survive.
@@SeanRyno In a nuclear holocaust? The vast, vast, majority would just die, government or not.
As a registered republican libertarian, this is one of my favorite venues for commentary. Great groups of guests. Bill Maher is Voltaire of our age.
A "Republican Libertarian". Is that a 3rd party composed of fascists and government haters?
@@jeffblack4039 how could a libertarian possibly also be a fascist?
That makes no sense whatsoever.
@@myguykaikai9215 They're opposed to regulations that keep other people and the land safe from their greed it doesn't make sense because they are liars. They've just twisted the idea of a Libertarian to suit their purposes.
@@jeffblack4039 You guys were the government and vaccine haters back some years ago. Now that the Ratz are in office you so conveniently changed your position on this matters.
@@Paul-ew5st Does it make sense to get our oil from countries with almost no regulations to extract it , rather than get it extracted from here with way more regulations than them?
Julia Ioffe is the best guest you've have in years
simp
She always knows what she’s talking about.
No way. I was embarrassed for her when she was talking about Botox and plastic surgery toward the end and told Bill that Putin was “just like you and me”. Her joke early on was awful too. Just because she’s from Russia doesn’t make her an expert, what credibility and resume does she have.
Yes, more neocons please. Having them as the sole expert on every news show discussing foreign policy is just not enough. After decades of pushing for disastrous nation building and regime change wars, they are bound to eventually get one right. Maybe this will be the time, if world doesn’t get blown up first by backing a major nuclear power into a corner this time around.
@@caseyrutstein1785 you should check her credentials, impressive...
that was the most somber overtime I've watched so far... absolutely chilling
Superb Panel, Bill; I commend you on 10 very informative minutes!
You spelled 60 wrong.
This is so damn scary !!!!! God help us all!!
Please don't be scared. It is highly unlikely that Putin will drop a nuke. He is not that crazy. He's a very rich man. He wants to live and enjoy it. Lots of people are like Chicken Little. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! I am more worried about Reublicans than Putin.
@@---Dana---- Perhaps but society as a whole shouldn't even have to fear that some maniac could one day take charge of the nuclear arsenal or that even a competent leader could mistakenly think that an adversary fired a nuke at them and then retaliate. No country should have what is essentially the basic ability to end the world as we know it with the touch of a button and I'm beyond bitter that those of us who just want to live our lives in peace get subjugated to this BS.
@@svscared , I'm 71 and we did nuclear attack drills where all the kids in school had to hide under our little desks. This was in the SF Bay Area, so we were also always hearing about the big earthquake coming any day now. So it's decades later and nothing happened. Fear of things that you can't do anything about is an emotion that buys you absolutely nothing. I hope you find peace.
I am from Montana and so glad that Jon Tester is our Senator. He's such a stand-up guy.
He's a F'n idiot, dude says Trump did some bad stuff and should be prosecuted, meanwhile I bet Tester is a multi millionaire due to insider trading just like the rest of Congress, Dems and Reps, those 2 idiots resigned because they wanted to keep on with a investigation that was leading nowhere and should of never been started, if they Trump on camera J walking they would of indicted him guaranteed, they have nothing and will never have anything, yall have been lied to from the very beginning by MSM
Bill you are the cure to this idiotic Qanon!!! Your show should be part of the high school curriculum !!
Keep up the great work!
and Thank you for the weekly fresh air you provide us!
I have friends all over the world .. even Russia. I've never seen an episode that brought me to tears before.
Yes, it’s horrible for Ukraine and Russian citizens, and profoundly terrifying.
I ran an outdoor rock climbing park in Thailand. Dozens of young folks from all over the world, would visit weekly. I've worked shoulder to shoulder with Ukrainians and Russians. They're all fine folks. Putin has his head stuck in putrid manure. He learned nothing from the history of Stalingrad during WWII.
John Heilemann loves the sound of his own voice.
His old partner that was cancelled was always better on the show they had together
I love to listen to John’s voice!
Not a fan
@@lizannewhitlow1085 let's go brandon
He is a left wing lunatic nut. Perfect example of media bias that indoctrinates instead of reporting. At least the other two guests were resonable people.
Putin is quite aware of the MAD syndrome ( Mutually Assured Destruction) so not being a suicidal maniac don't think it is an option
Wish I lived in Montana so I could vote for Sen. Jon Tester!
Really, he is among the senators and congress people that made millions using inside trade information.
When Reagan was about to be operated on, after being shot...he said to the doctors, "I hope you are all Republicans"....one of the doctors said, "Mr. President--right now, everyone is a Republican!"...we have to get back that feeling of solidarity in our country....Patriotism is more important than Party affiliation....I say this, as a liberal Democrat.
he is utterly corrupt. More lobbyist money taken than anyone. Definition of legalised bribery. Hes against climate action and raising min wage....................he is a cancer, a political gun for hire, fn disgrace of a man
Anyone asking for escalation in this war should be sent to the loony jail.
They certainly should be the first on the conscription list, for sure.
Madison and Matt ...the cheerleaders for war....and the sexual molesters too btw....war...raping the other country....are the similarities?
The media I’m sure wants escalation….good for ratings. Military Contractors likely want it to escalate…good for business. Sadly, money is more important than lives or peace.
@jon pork a no fly zone means taking out Surface to Air weapons being manned by Russians. It means shooting down Russian Jets …….please stop talking about this subject.
@jon pork There's a good video called "Lawrence: ‘A No-Fly Zone Is Actually An Aerial Combat Zone’". You should check it out.
By the way, I love all 4 of you for doing a FABULOUS show !!!
Loved the ending.
We're all gonna die. See you next week!
I'm constantly getting feed about how much we're going to die. All the ways. News like "US doomsday plane is already deployed, spotted in The UK" "Commercial flights and vacations to Florida cancelled for April". Earthquakes and two meteor strikes tonight and tomorrow, don't know how big or where, no information about that. Ends up being I look out the window, it's still okay here every day.
@@anaibarangan4908 Well we're not all going to die just a lot of us. How many people who got covid a year ago were sure they would stick around for more decades if you asked them in 2019? Stop taking it for granted!
@@BigBadJerryRogers maybe not, but they will be living in the stone age.
@@anaibarangan4908 Yup. "The world is going to end" is BS.
Hot take: Nukes are adult Santa Claus. Better behave or else!!!
The first episode of Club Random with William Shatner was great, thanks for giving your audience another way of connecting with you! I am as critical of Bill as most others he is not always right or funny sometimes but most of the time he exposes you to different perspectives and he respects his guests while finding common ground or shaming his guests when they are way off of societal norms that is what I appreciate. Cheers!
Well said
Agreed 👍
You can't respond in kind with nuclear weapons...it's unwinnable... Send B-52s and stealth bombers to attack the bases that launched it, but you can't launch nukes in kind...
I love his show but “he respects his guests” many times he interrupts his guests before they can finish a sentence.
By far, the best 'Overtime' and episode in a very long time.
Bill didn't whine about 'woke' or 'cancel culture' one time.
This show was absolutely outstanding!!!
This is the good items for discussion. Bravo!👍
Well, Earth it's been a fun ride. So long and thanks for all the fish!
Don't Panic 🐬
Tester is good democrat. Wish more were like him.
Another dumb comment! How did the US get so dumb?
There are many good Democrats. Some good Republicans too. The loudmouth ignorant people get all the press.
voted against raising the minimum wage.
he is utterly corrupt. More lobbyist money taken thatn anyone. Definition of legalised bribery. Hes against climate action and raising min wage....................he is a cancer
Vote him out asap and replace him with a Republican/ America first candidate
Best episode in a while!
All it takes is not inviting stupid people in the studio
Thermo nuclear war. You're insane and out of touch with reality
Well, on that high note, goodnight everyone!
This is serious as a heart attack. For those of us born in the 60’s and 70’s, we grew up wondering if that’s how it would end. Did we just buy ourselves one more generation before the nuclear winter? I thought we decided as a people long ago that this was NOT the way to go.
John Heilemann always says a lot-- without saying anything at all.
And he smiles way too much while talking about nuclear war.
@@psyskeptic9979 because he thinks he’s incredibly clever and hip. His midlife crisis is somewhat embarrassing
Typical liberal muppet.
He’s an embarrassment to the human race. His logic is of an alternative reality.
@@mex1b Yes, he even claimed playing basketball inside an arena is as dangerous as firing a gun at random. Weird person.
Scary as hell, but great insight nonetheless.
This has all been very disturbing.
More like scary as sh*t.
overtime was better than the show tonight
Good show tonight. No teabaggers. Bill actually let people finish their thoughts.
No teabaggers, just a table full of neocons pretending to be liberal taking about using nukes in response! These pussies couldn’t win an arm wrestling match against a woman. (A real woman) now they’re ready for a war they’ll never fight.
@@tres311 **. Blah blah blah !!! Talk about fake tough guys !! Your guy Trump,,, never served in the military... But he was the ultimate ,,, wannabe tough guy,,, who admires Putin's toughness !!! That guy who's killing innocent children in Ukraine !!!!... Why is it that Republican men start wars,,, that always kill innocent people ???? **
@@johnedward3404 let everyone know that you believe every leftist talking point without telling everyone that you believe every leftist talking point.
if you’re male. he didn’t respect the only russian born, most studied in this area finish her thoughts. just look at how he he barely turns to acknowledge her. has anyone even successfully suggested he’s not sexist?
@@aitchtea shut up.
Maybe he is sexist...so?
SO WHAT?! With screeching harpies like you out there, it's no wonder.
If the game is lost, then we're all the same
No one left to place or take the blame
We will leave this place an empty stone
Or that shining ball of blue we call our home
Thanks, Jerry Garcia!
And no one will miss us!! 😂 Lol
Bob Weir you mean. Pay attention lol.
A pizza place, or so it looks from space... 😜
@@michaeldion4855 A closer look reveals the last parking space
Yesterday, on Democracy Now, we heard Yanis, the former Greek Finance Minister, and commentator, cited an ancient Chinese quote that said that you always leave an enemy a Golden Bridge across which he can return with his dignity intact. The West has not provided that, only escalation. We will be the authors of our own misfortune, I fear.
That's what i have been saying as well, either Zelenskyy takes the deal, or they need to leave a "grace period", although my reference comes from Seinfeld, it still has the same core message, haha
Putin can turn his tanks around right now and head back down the road he came in on. That road is wide open.
@@glenneric1 But they will have to get something, they're not just going to leave.
Ms Ioffe is such an important speaker on Russia and presents the best wisdom with such a well informed command of history, facts and analysis I can't get enough. Her views are so developed and considered I want her to host a Sunday morning talk show on International affairs while maintaining her UN duties and President Biden should have her opppinted to his cabinet, with the least of these being the Sunday show. But for the love of God someone get her in the room with President Biden.
She has no UN duties. I deeply admire her though. She cofounded an online reporting and opinion service called Puck.
Boy that was a depressing conversation.
"You've got to keep every option on the table"?
No wonder Putin has such a *huge* table
Underrated joke! In reality, there's absolutely NOTHING on those tables. I think Putin's paranoid of getting assassinated!
If one country commits genocide, another country shouldn't retaliate by also committing genocide.
If one country uses nukes, the other country should not retaliate with nukes.
Use cyber attacks to permanently disable and deactivate all nukes around the world.
@@user-nf9xc7ww7m You play Metal Gear Solid too much.
L O L ! ! ! !
Haven't been watching since Bill went off on his "I'm so over Covid" 3 month rant, but I liked his guest lineup tonight. Julia Ioffe should be the "go to" guest for everyone regarding Russia topics.
Better lineup of guests tonight because there are no libertarian and right wing clowns booked this time. Nice little break from insane clowns.
Carseye1: Julia Ioffe is the perfect example, that anyone can call themself an "Expert".
Worse, people believe her.
If you really want to understand what's happening with Russia, maybe listen to a real expert like Scott Ritter.
I’m with you. Turned him off when he started whining about not have audiences like a self centered baby. Plus sometimes you wonder what side he’s on.
@@Vanderearden Please tell me. What has Ioffe gotten wrong? Scott Ritter? You mean the convicted child sex offender? (Charges: unlawful contact with a minor, criminal use of a communications facility, corruption of minors, indecent exposure, possessing instruments of crime, and criminal solicitation). The walking "conflict of interest"? Who tells energy conglomerates that he has "nations in his pocket"? Who has been described by many as "unstable" and "attention starved"? He claims that the American government suspected him of spying for Israel; that Norman Schwarzkopf, the gulf-war general, once had him arrested, that the FBI hounded his wife for years because they thought she was KGB? All without one shred of evidence. That guy?
@@carseye1219 I’m not saying that Scott Ritter is innocent but you just heard this panel admit that it is STANDARD PROTOCOL for the powerful [eg ex presidents] to get away with their crimes.
Biden, Trump, Pompeo, Obama, Hill Clinton, Bush, Rumsfeld, are all certifiable WAR CRIMINALS walking free. While Julian Assange rots in prison for the crime of JOURNALISM & exposing US/UK WAR CRIMES.
All this
to say that there is no real justice in our land. It doesn’t surprise me AT ALL that Scott Ritter was locked up for ABC & XYZ.
Like it doesn’t surprise me that John Kiriakou & all of the other CIA & FBI whistleblowers end up being arrested for _____. The only whistleblower who escaped this fate was Bill Benney who was 3 steps ahead of the criminals who run our government.
Treat Putin like an abusive spouse… you never want them feeling backed into a corner bc that’s when you can get hurt
There's a strong element of a hostage situation staged by an aggrieved, estranged boyfriend whose reactions to the police are tinged with apparent irrationality. Told the house is surrounded, he threatens to fill the house with gas and light it up. He might choose blowing up the neighborhood, or he might be dealing for an out - a helicopter + $1M. Seen the movie.
No, he already has become a hostage-taker. You don't negociate with hostage-takers. Either they give up or will be taken out.
There is a famous quote from Albert Einstein that goes something like this , """I am not sure where ,when , or how WW3 will be fought , but I am sure WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones.""
US representatives always say, when it comes to war, “Everything is on the table”
Which means EVERYTHING
Putin is not the first to put nukes on the table
No but he probably is the craziest since Stalin to do so. A man in power for 22 years with no counter levers of checks on that power leads to insanity. Putins unchecked power has driven him insane and kept him trapped in a 20th century mindset he can't escape. He's a man living in the past trapped by that past and his insanity could possibly doom us all.
As evil as he is, I gotta think Putin doesn't really want to spend the rest of his days living underground like a gopher because he just had to engage in a nuclear exchange with the US.
Exactly - so quick we forget that we had major hawks that after WWII wanted the US to use nuclear weapons to take over the world. Then Gen Curtis Lemay I think it was, and others wanted to use nukes against North Korea and China, and then Nixon wanted to nuke Viet Nam, and of course Trump probably doesn't even know what nukes are, but kept wondering why we can't use them. The US has been in a covert undeclared war with Russia since we lied to them about not moving NATO to the East. The one issue that Noam Chomsky and Henry Kissinger agree on is that moving NATO to the east is/was a very bad idea and never should have been done. Yet, we keep doing it. We siphoned 20 billion dollars to Ukraine to bring about the 2014 coup, and keep pushing to bring Ukraine into NATO - the reason was that a Rand Corporation report from the 60's I think it was said that to destabilize and overthrown Russia - Ukraine was the key.
Putin knows this, we know he knows it, he knows we know ... but the stupid American people are kept in the dark.
@@gallery7596 Assuming that he is a rational person by any normal standard, his ego, paranoia, and obsession with his legacy could in a worst case scenario lead him, backed into a corner, to go all out, enraged that if he can't have it his way, no one will. Scores of people in the middle east display this kind of dogmatic self-sacrifice, though obviously for different reasons, but it shows you that with enough conviction, and just a touch of insanity, people are willing to do preposterous things.
Omg. Everyone's in this situation BECAUSE PUTIN INVADED UKRAINE. No one else did. And if America's "out nukes on the table" it's only as a defensive move not an offensive one.
I love it when the audience stays quiet and let's them talk.
_ of course, any discussion about possible usage of nuclear weaponry is quite mesmirizing - with the unspoken question being "...is that wannabe czar 💀blood💀putin💀 this century's 'human extinction event'.." ❓❗❓
From Covina big ups. Thanks
“The only winning move is not to play.”
How about a nice game of chess instead?
The best move is the move your opponent wants you to play the least
Exactly!! And in this case not playing should mean not buying the game at all in the first place!
I’ve studied nuclear weapons nuclear war since I was seven. Every scenario imaginable. John Heilemann really hit the nail on the head. It’s quite sobering on how rapidly these scenarios can spiral out of control. It’s a variation of the “classic“ Cold War NATO/Warsaw Pact scenario. Conventional conflict followed by chemical weapons use into tactical nuclear exchanges and finally into full scale strategic exchanges (what is termed “general” nuclear war). It escalates *so* fast.
Since you were seven?!!! Poor child
The best litmus test for reality: assumptions backed by no hard evidence.
@@peacelovejoy8786 I was precocious. I had (and still have) an extremely scientifically oriented mind at a very young age. I found it all fascinating. I remember drawing diagrams on the board in second grade trying to explain fission to my classmates.
It's interesting that in their nuclear conversation the panel ignores the 45th *pOTUS threatening to obliterate the country of Iran (obviously by nukes) if they interfere with the US navy again. Obviously multiple warheads. Should the world have taken Trump seriously?
@@TheNukewarfare2 Interesting. You did it second grade;
I did it in sixth grade. Did my science fair project on nuclear weapons. This was in the 1960's. Try getting away with that today.
Bring Back the 3 person panel after the first interview. Then the 4 person Overtime for CZcams!
Does anyone else remember the Cuban Missile Crisis? A month before my 11th birthday. I still live less than a hundred miles from Oak Ridge, Tennessee. We knew Oak Ridge would be a target. I remember being scared. Kennedy had Generals and Cabinet leaders wanting him to invade Cuba. Kruschev had people telling him to attack. It was scary as he'll a few years later when I read the book telling just how close to nuclear war that we were.
I don't remember it cuz I wasn't around (but my parents and grandparents and lots of folks still around were). And I HAVE studied it and watched documentaries on it and yeah, that was a crazy crazy close and absolutely not fun situation. LOTS of parallels to what's going on now unfortunately.
It gets tiring trying to study and learn / know history with the aim of not repeating it, when no one else seems interested in doing the same. Kind of has to be a group value. And that group being one's fellow citizens, community, country and the world.
@@tinaperez7393 The problem is, this isn't about groups. This is about one crazy, paranoid little old man who wants to leave a legacy at all costs. How can learning from history be useful in this case?
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It's not at all costs that he wants to win. He knows there's a point where there won't be any point in a victory if one is even possible and he's not interest in that.
He may have been shown signs of cutting his losses and backing down already as he's declared success with the military exercises just yesterday in Russia.
As for history,
"Leave your enemy a way to escape"
Or the more common heard version "leave your enemy a golden bridge to retreat upon"
- Sun Tzu, Art of War approx. 450-220 BCE.
Thank you, Bill, for asking the question no one wants to ask... What if Putin is losing and decides to use even just one nuclear weapon?
Then we won't have to listen to idiot Democrats talk about getting rid of fossil fuels to stop global warming.
@@Voyager759 define win/lose?
@@sandyunderpants4376 Huh?....you wandered off the Faux channel again havent you Sandy...
putin has run all these war games as well, people need to stop fear mongering the public and pressuring politicians publicly. the likelihood of him using a small nuke is not zero but it is very low for all the reasons enumerated in this segment.
Biden will call up Putin and challenge him to arm wrestle.
I'm a simple man, i see Julia Ioffe in a discussion, i click.
99 red balloon-type mistakes can happen when Nuclear weapons are armed 🎈
Bill's "How can you let it stand" comment in regards to nuclear war, really should also be applied to what Putin is doing right now in Ukraine with conventional forces. This is the real problem - drawing the line at nuclear use is like relying on your safety in football, you really need to oppose the actions well before it gets to that point.
Agreed. By the time it gets to that point millions have died. I wish Poland or some smaller power would roll into Ukraine and drive the Russian out. I can't see any Putin stopping
low-key
I wanted to hear from Tester throughout that discussion. Because he's actually thought about it and in a position to do something about it.
Best show in a while, Bill. Love Heilman, Ioffi. Tester might’ve been replaced by a Republican, though I happen to like the only working farmer in the senate. Nice ‘New Rules’ and new westerns bit, too.
not much difference between Tester and a Republican.
@@briangrigsby1842 Just the part about Tester being a Democrat and not loyal to Trump and his entire world view. But other than that yeah the same thing.
@@sandyunderpants4376 You just can't be too far to the Left anymore. This show was 100% pro-Democrat and malcontents still chime in here and let the world know how Bill Maher is such a Trump guy and also to the right of Atilla the Hun.
@Xaspirate...
Maybe that’s because working class Americans have been left behind and haven’t had any real representation in Washington for the last 30+ years?
Maybe that has something to do with it?
Maybe because they say they care about making healthcare affordable but have kicked the can down the road since Nancy first introduced the idea BACK IN THE 1990’s!!!
Maybe because Obama bailed out his WallStreet friends and let the predatory banks off the hook?
Maybe NAFTA?
Maybe how hard they fought to smear Bernie Sanders and all his supporters as radical commies...
Maybe, just maybe. 😉
@@briangrigsby1842 democrats who live & work in montana are not going to behave like dems from other urban zones .. it comes with the climate & terrain ..
Between 2003 and 2007, Virginia Thomas, a longtime conservative activist, earned $686,589 from the Heritage Foundation, according to a Common Cause review of the foundation’s IRS records. Thomas failed to note the income in his Supreme Court financial disclosure forms for those years, instead checking a box labeled “none” where “spousal noninvestment income” would be disclosed.
Around the same time, the late 2000s, Charlie Rangel, a longtime Democrat congressman and chairman, failed to disclose hundreds of thousands of dollars in assets on personal disclosure forms, did not pay state or federal taxes on income from a villa he owned in the Dominican Republic, and helped preserve a tax loophole for oil companies while seeking to secure a $1 million contribution from an oil company for the Rangel Center.
@@JK-br1mu How does one wrongdoing offset the other? Because one is R and one is D? Rangel's punishment was not what it could have been, but his power and his career were essentially over. In Thomas's case - so far - zero accountability and none on the horizon
@@JK-br1mu Sorry to break it to you, but Charlie Rangel is dead. Current legislation would restrict both Republican and Democratic congressmen from insider trading. Plenty of abuse on both sides. However, what Ginni Thomas did will always be despicable and a slap in the face to rule of law and separation of powers. She is the new poster child for traitor. Her husband was a patent lawyer from Monsanto corp before the GOP discovered what a patsy he could be. No Constitutional law or trial experience. He was a deciding vote in Bush v Gore, the first GOP overthrow of the government in 2000.
Insider and several other news organizations have identified 59 members of Congress who've recently failed to properly report their financial trades as mandated by the Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge Act of 2012, also known as the STOCK Act.
@@robertjohnson801 no worries, the New York Times and other newspapers recounted all the votes after the 2000 election, and discovered that even if the 2nd recount had gone ahead and not been stopped 5-4, Al Gore would still have lost. "Examining the Vote: The Overview; Study of Disputed Florida Ballots Finds Justices Did Not Cast the Deciding Vote", New York Times, November 12, 2001. So you're good.
I don't know what is so hard about this, if you start throwing nukes everybody dies. Look around you, everybody you love, everything you care about, ceases to exist. We have walked up to that edge at least twice and there was no war going on. This is a true "Don't Look Up" moment.
If you think the other guy is scared & won't fire back, you might fire first to scare them off, the definition of brinkmanship suddenly includes nuclear as it did chemical in Syria. :(
That's not a real thing.
Putin has many many nukes but even if he manages to use some of them I doubt very strongly 1) he gets even fraction of them in air at time or 2) they work as planned - aka it all goes "very russian". Therefor, great loss of life but no armageddon.
In that scenario, it would be good if your leader didn’t have dementia. Unfortunately, Biden has no idea where he is half the time.
I get the impression that John Heilemann is used to being interrupted so he speaks too fast and begins to mumble. When he slows down, he actually sounds relatively intelligent.
In Jon Tester's defense, he probably wouldn't be creating new responses out of thin air. He would be voting on what's presented to him.
hed vote the way of which he was paid. Takes more lobbyist money than anyone
Love ya Bill!
Julia Ioffe, most well informed person on the panel.
Well it's exactly what she specializes in so I'd hope so
And even she is a full of shit scare monger
By far. . Watch PBS Frontline
Wake me when it’s 2024
Did u say this on 2022?! 😂🫣😬
Lately Bill Maher has been leaning to the right.
Classic liberal. Moderation . In Bill’s case it’s more daring but in old timer liberals leaning toward moderation is mostly cause of fear .
He trashed Republicans tonite
@@yasisoufi You nailed it. I Registered Republican in 1977 and left tge party in 2010. I was an extremely moderate Republican, most definitely a social liberal, and voted issue and person not party. I left the Republican party because the entire party lost their shit over the black guy, who I voted for twice, got elected. Mayor, Judge, Senator, congress...ok.nNOT PRESIDENT! NO! The party all around me was all of a sudden UBER CHRISTIAN, and there was absolutely NO pushback from anyone in congress. House in senate, that did one damn thing to tamp down the growing show of outward racism. They all came out from under their rocks and were welcomed. I had not changed...not one iota and all of a sudden my position in politics made me not even a moderate liberal, but even left of that. Most definitely left fringes are there and I would ban them from ztwitter, but there is NOTHING like the mainstream right wing. They have all lost any sense of decency. Full stop. But, liberals and moderate Republicans have always been the fixers. They do not even know where to begin to battle what we have now as a right wing. Bill is right about, yes. We need go respect all people, but stop turning EVERYTHING into fighting for little Karen's and fight for your damn country. We are nit going to have a democracy if the sorry excuse for the Party that calls themselves Republicans get their way. They elected Donald damn Trump!!!!!!
They think he is the smartest thing to his the US ever, HOLY CRAP and half of them think he was sent by GOD! Democrats has absolutely no idea or temperament for how to deal with that. Bill is right every single time he says it. Being nice is far more important than winning elections and taking care of people. The right is ALL about doing the scummiest thing they can think of that is going to keep them in office. The left needs to learn to fight back and nit just keep taking punches and picking flowers.
Rant over. Any typos? I am on a tablet that add extra consonants at random and crazy azz auto correct. I am bleary eyed after my rant. Not reading snf fixing. You will get the gist.
@@josephmagliocca3628What's the MRA thread? That whole train of thought that Bill was on, lost me. I'm not anti masculinity, men should be who they are, and I'm swooning for Zelensky like the rest of the world ... but isn't it Putin's SUPER TOXIC masculinity that launched this whole nightmare and his broken macho ego that keeps fueling the catastrophe?
@@karleneblaser1261 good rant. I hear ya. I'm a liberal all my life, getting frustrated with some of the weakness. Can't even imagine how hard it is for a sane Republican to watch what that party has become -the hysteria and total delusion with everything is staggering.
Thanks Julia. You managed to frighten and arouse me in equal measure
I am not American im Asian do most women there look as beautiful as her?
Jesus, Bill. You ask someone a question and then interrupt them continually. Great guests but no chemistry. Bummer.
Asking non-experts questions about national security. Neither funny nor informative.
"Everyone is going to die in a nuclear war."
"Ok, great note to end on, enjoy the Oscars!"
Oh Bill, if you only knew...
your one of the good guys Bill. i hope you live to be 100.
Albert Einstein - “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
This is an awful conversation. Stop talking about nuclear escalation especially with a member of congress, who has actual power, on your stage. Can we please start putting the same effort we use getting Ukraine weapons, into really focusing on diplomacy before more and more civilians are killed.
Sorry Jill - it's called reality and these things must be considered at least.
yes lets not talk about the stuff that might happen cuz (clutch pearls)
Yes, there isn't much talk about how to resolve this with a ceasefire and lifting most sanctions on the anti-war Russians.
There have been several talks between the two nations, but they're happening while Russian forces continue to assault Ukraine and Putin makes demands.
Tester's answer is a form of diplomacy
Bill has really, really moved up to a new level of insight with his commentary the last two seasons.
and LMAO at ending the show with "things are built for total global thermonuclear devastation" 🤣
Have a great weekend!
That dolt Helleman talking and partially laughing like a frat boy downing beers at a pub talking theorhetics makes my blood boil. These could be potentially REAL consequences and seeing Loffe's face when he went on that rant shows that she thinks he simply doesn't grasp the true reality for EVERYONE on the PLANET if Russia decides upon this course of action..and we thought only Islamic Fanatics would dare to set forth this scenario (it's not a game with a reset button). You can talk war games and your knowledge about scenarios all you want, but at some point you stop being the fact boy and call it out that Putin needs to be stopped. Loffe brought in how we got to this mess and how there MUST now be a THIRD way. War games are a SCENARIO not a Playbook. And letting Ukraine go it alone is reprehensible. They will be the test run for how far Russia can go in Europe then give the Playbook to Iran and North Korea.
Please bring Julia Ioffe on again to talk more about this, some chilling comments there
Your new rules today was awesome!!! I love you Bill!!!!!
They focus too much on Nuclear. Nuclear generates alot of alarms. Chemical weapons dont generate that much attention. Chemical is possibility.
Russia got away with it in Syria.
I think if chemical weapons are used then NATO should go in and protect Ukraine and remove Russia from its borders.
John Tester a good moderate Dem who is not Manchin could I think really do well as a Presidential candidate... like him
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he is utterly corrupt. More lobbyist money taken thatn anyone. Definition of legalised bribery. Hes against climate action and rasiing min wage....................he is a cancer
Thanks for all the hard work!
I'm in love with Julia Ioffe. That is all.
We are all fucked...
togetherness!
Result of putting sleepy joe in the white house.
Nobody is afraid of biden.
I disagree with Julia Loffe about the Soviet Union. In the Swedish military I was trained in responding to ABC-weapons (atomic-, biological- and chemical-weapons) and we were taught that the Soviet Union regarded ABC-weapons as "conventional" weapons. The only thing limiting their use i a war was world opinion and they didn't care much about that either.
An alternative to Putin using chemical or nuclear weapons is to send a cruise missile to Putin and hope that Russia doesn't respond, telling them it will be Mutual Assured Destruction if they do.
@@rabbit251 The only time you'll be sure where he is is during the next G20.. and that would be a whole new level of madness.
@@rabbit251 That's what i was thinking as well, Dee Ess Cah Late (sorry) the situation, they've got millions of conventional bombs, enough to carpet Moscow. I don't see the big deal, just fire whatever else you got that isn't a nuke.
So scary. I thought I could die without another (1962) missile crisis. God bless President BIDEN.
@@jakebe4915 I'd rather keep God out of it since it's one of the primary reasons for Putin's war. Putin is a Russian Orthodox Christian who thinks that his calling is to reunite the Russian Orthodox people which, to him, means Russia, Belarus and Ukraine. He sees it as a personal affront that Ukraine's church (where Russian orthodoxy was founded) in 2019 broke out of the Russian Orthodox church.
(And I'm an atheist so i don't ask God to do anything)
I really like the talk, thank you!, it’s frightening!
You guys are LAUGHABLE.
Lots of hand wringing does not instill my confidence
Amazing that Bill Maher the Comedian is handling this question better than these experts....Ok, they finally said something informative at the end.
I think you know this already but in case not, the guy's not "just" a "comedian". Not only can comedians be very astute and accurate in telling truth to power, but he's a very articulate student of history and current events - both foreign and domestic, a great debater and interviewer and has been for over 40 years now and knows more stuff relevant to the business of government than most people in elected office.
Zelensky is "just" a comedian too. Along with a law degree and owner of a successful multi million dollar media company. Not to mention legitimately winning 75% of his country's presidential vote and as a non incumbent on an anti corruption platform. (And peacefully ending the involvement in Donbas with Russia) - which Putin was able to spin into being anti russian and an enemy of Russia and russians and russian speakers in Donbas.
@@t2dev yup. The days when he "fell in love with ideas" as he says.
Bill Maher is getting old and is calcifying before our very eyes.
Every time I see John Heilemann I think, "Am I not turtlely enough for the turtle club?"
Julia is the best historically principled political analyst, ever.
My life is better and definitely funnier because of this guy. Even if I don't agree with him.