TRYING To Fix The Raptor 660 (I'm Completely Shocked!)
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- Alright time to take a dive into the raptor top end. The results are SHOCKING!
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I'll take that as a shout out! 😉. As an idea for the new series, maybe find a few different surfaces to compare them on. Like the muddy field from last time, maybe some sand, gravel, and even pavement. I'm not sure what is available close to you guys, but I think it could be interesting. Maybe do a time trial on a trail also. Swapping machines as you did last time to see how they really stack up against each other in more than just straight line speed. I can't wait to see how this Raptor turns out and know that it's going to spank that Predator.
It was definetely a shoutout brother! I apologize i couldnt remember your screen name, but Earl thank you so much for the information ✊
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Y’all should build warriors like the 400ex
Thrilled you are doing a predator. I grew up on this quad and still restore them. They are very underrated!
Thank you Cameron 🙏 i plan on showing Mike how fast they are 😉
Let me give some advice because i just went through the same thing rebuilding a clapped 02 raptor 660 recently. Ended up having to replace EVERYTHING on it.
1. Take that Chinese 686 kit and throw it straight in the scrap bin. They’re junk. I bought that kit and it ran great for about 15 min and it dropped the sleeve and blew the headgasket. Hopped on a Facebook group “660 Raptor owners” and alot of other people have had the same experience with them. The best thing to do is get a stock cylinder, hone it, and throw a 11:1 CP piston in it. Great power tons of torque and reliability.
2: If it hasnt gone out yet and hasnt been replaced they are notorious for the starter clutch one way bearing going out in them and chewing the gear up. L&A makes a great heavy duty kit with new bearing, gear, and puller.
3. DRW Case saver for sure!
4. With the plastic floppy handle bar cover that holds the ignition switch and lights they make billet handle bar clamps on ebay that does away with the plastic and holds the key switch and lights. Looks alot better too.
Ready to see how this build turns out!🤟
Yup im with you bro! The only thing different im doing from what you said is running the 12.5 to 1 high comp 686 kit (not chinese tho) and a wiseco crank ✊👊 also thank you yota!!!
Subscribed! This makes me want to revive my old 660
Keep up the good work ur KILLING it
Thank you Keith!!!
New to the channel and just watched my 1st video and this was a great 1. Like the content and definitely like how you explain everything. 👍🏻
Thank you Tony! 🙏👊
Got my raptor back from the shop today!! I can’t wait to see the race and build up !!!
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I just bought my first quad a lakota 300!!! It's pretty sweet!!!
Loving this series! Picking my 660 up today im looking forward to it
Awesome!! Thank you I think youll like it!
@@StupidFastJohn just got it home! Seems like a really clean bike overall only thing is the rear bearings are shot so got to get those ordered before I ride
you and mike s. always do great video's/ p.s always check the plastics when buying quads. i keep a cheap package of zip ties.
I use to have the 03 predator 500 and raced a raptor 660! Back in the day so I know what’s going to happen good comparison y’all keep quad wars!!!!
Weve got a few surprises though! Also thank you ✊🙌
Been waiting for this!
Thank you Evan!
Years ago I sold my raptor 660 to a buddy and borrowed a predator 500 from another buddy to go to glamis sand dunes and smoked the raptor every time when we raced. Predator had a exhaust and a fuel manager along with re-jetted carb. My buddy was pissed but that 660 is a heavy bike for sure. 🤣
LMFAO! im super interested to see the difference! Weve got some bonus surprises to toss in too ✊
Would like to see you guys buy some old three wheelers and compare them too
Thats a GREAT idea!!!
I am liking the progression. Get yourself a lav mic. Great audio is key to a good channel. Keep it up.
Thank you Ryan!!! I just got a lav mic last week 😅
Tip for the future.Take a nut and stick it on top the strip bolt head and weld inside the nut a good bead and you can stick wrench on the nut you welded and back out broke off bolts.It even works even if the old bolt head is snapped off
Yea thats what i do for snapped head bolts on automobile heads but these were so small and the room in the nut just wasnt enough, i do appreciate the info though!!! 👊✊
Great Video John. You and Michael are really putting out some professional content lately.. Love the Quad Warz series. I am a 2 stroke guy, so for a future Quad Warz series anything 2 stroke and I will be happy... Keep the videos coming John....
Thank you Roy! We plan on doing quite a bit of 2 stroke stuff VERY soon brother!
The Niche cylinders are known for the sleeve dropping down in the cylinder. Find a good used OEM, have it bored to a 102mm and go from there. Saw the recommendation for a webcams cam. Im gonna be installing a 736/737 grind webcam with a 11:1 compression CP piston and an overbored OEM cylinder this summer during the desert off season.
Omg!!! A 737? Thats enormous lol do you have to run hardened rockers with that?!?
@@StupidFastJohn from what I understand, no. There's a Facebook Raptor 660 group. Bunch of knowledgeable folks on there. Also, good place to find people parting out bikes if you need less expensive OEM parts. Name is "Yamaha 660 raptor". Around 13k members.
Info on that camshaft.
www.webcamshafts.com/pages_vehicles/atv/yamaha_install_data/tc_000830_002363.html
Oh, you can get the ez out out, takes hours, and a 90 grinder and burr pits and lots of patience, has to do it the past 2 days on my Kickstarter bolt on my kx450f
Oh i hear yah but man is it a HUGE pita! LOL i knows the struggle too brother ✊👌🤙
Hi John, what chain do you recommend, just got 06+ swinger for 05 trx450, and need longer chain what you recommend x or o ring?
Hey John, the 20 dollar ebay chains mike sabo and i used on our 400ex builds were pretty good for 20 bucks! I always go with non o ring because the o ring chains rob horsepower due to drag 👊
Those rubber things are amazing,lol
Soooo excited for this comparison. Also at least the crank wasn’t Chinese junk too so that saves you some money. Hope it runs great for you when it’s all put together. I hear those raptors are great trail quads.
Hey Lane! Thannk you, i will make her a beast dude 🤙
@@StupidFastJohn hell yea man rip it up!!!
Another good tip make sure you clean out those types of bolts probably why the last guy trashed them
Yup exactly!!!
Losen the cam chain tensioner before you remove the rocker cover and put the cover on first when installing then the tensioner.
Thank you Elmer 👊
Reverse drill bits are what I’ll use from now on
I have tried those but im quicker with a welder n vice grips 😅
Never was a fan of that 5 valve setup. Just so weird. But looking forward to seeing this thing back togeatger and ripping with the predator
Thank you darrius! Shes definetely gunna be a beast!!!
I have a Polaris predator 500 and I drove my friend stock raptor 660 and I would say it’s going be unpredictable with these quads
Yup i agree!
Damn do I hate when people over tighten shit ! Can’t wait to see how this raptor turns out man and quad warz was sick.
Here’s and idea for you and mike after you guys do the raptor predator series. You should try to find a couple z 400s or kfx either or do a comparison of one stock and one modified. It would be cool to see how the liquid cooled 400s stack up to the 400ex. Just an idea but either way keep up the great content John 🤘🏻🔥
Thank you Brandon! We have gotten alot of requests for the z400 so we will definetely be adding that to the list 👊
Hell yah man. I live in PA near Pittsburgh it would be sick to do a meet and great with you guys one day and go riding 🤘🏻
I start to like this guy video's
That's a bummer John, I don't think I've ever heard of anyone having good luck with Wiseco cranks. Maybe this one will last. Engine internals is definitely not a place to cheap out lol, especially with how much work it is to split the cases.
Wow! I didnt know wiseco cranks had so many issues but i have only ever used wiseco and had some good results! My 100hp banshee has a wiseco crank and i just bought one for my 400ex with the 426 high comp build im doing ✊
@@StupidFastJohn Nice, good to know. Never used them personally, just the pistons. Pistons have always been solid. 426ex should rip
On one of my 700s the key switch is extended and moved to the back side of the left front fender mirroring the reverse switch. Look like it could have been factory there.
Yea that would of been alot better lol
I think the only purpose for the Arrow on the piston is to point toward exhaust side when installing?
Yes sir!
Haha ya got me. That wasn't so bad so far. I honestly wouldn't run that piston either. I'd junk that cylinder too. I've read they are kinda hit or miss. The quality control on Chinese stuff is terrible just like harbor freight. Sometimes you get something that works great for years and sometimes you get shit that's shit out of the box.
I left alot out by accident about the one jug bolt being stripped out 😅
@@StupidFastJohn yeah man that looked like it was a bitch
Nice I have a 01 raptor 660r
Did the 01 only come in blue?
Are you still doing top quad by the way
Hey brother, I have a question. I just finished building an 07 450r that refuses to start. I’ve timed and timed and timed it again. I replaced the starter clutch assembly, reduction gear etc.., she will crank all day, won’t start, shoot, she doesn’t even try to fire.
Have you checked spark? If it has spark have you tried using starting fluid to see if thatll catch her?
If you havent already you may also want to rip the carb off and give a good clean. Them jets get clogged up pretty quick.
Love to see you guys go way back LT 230 quad sport vs Honda 250 R late 80’s quads
Holy moly lol
@@StupidFastJohn I meant 250x haha not 250r
By heat spots on crank do you mean like discoloration like blue cause my crank has that what does this usually indicate ?
And make sure the carbs are OEM and not crappy eBay knock offs. If the Niche cylinder is there, those carbs could be knock offs as well. Should say Mikuni, Made in Japan on the side.
Thanks Bryan!!! Really appreciate the info brother
Like the video buddy need to do a shout out to your banshee
Shes making a come back REALLY SOON!!!
@@StupidFastJohn happy to hear it my dude will always be my favorite bike man
Years ago I was stuck between buying a Raptor or a Banshee.....
I always wonder about the Banshee that got away...
My only complaint with this vid is there was no wheezing... just kiddin playa
Lmao!!! Thanks tac ✊👊
At least shes got a wiseco crank thats a bonus, i noticed the side of the jug said niche, odds are the piston is part of that niche kit as well. ive heard good a bad about niche cylinders but i def wouldnt run the piston, just my opinion. good video!!
Yea i agree i just done get why they wouls go through the trouble to put a new wiseco name brand crank in and cut it short with a chinese top end 🤷♂️
@@StupidFastJohn haha i hear ya. Ive seen all kinds of ridicilous things on machines over the years.. Jug might be ok to use but toss the piston in the trash lol
Ohh no dude. I just saw the thumbnail I'm a bit nervous on what you found with the 660. Can't watch it right this second but will be in a few......
LOL its ok i will revive her!! 🙌👌👊
Y'all should do raptor 700s since they are most popular
I agree! Im thinking about getting one 🤔
Great video man! Always enjoy your content!
Just a Couple of things.
1) niche cylinders are junk - they are notoriously bad for dropping sleeves.
2) the coolant can be drained by the drain bolt on the water pump.
3) the cylinder bolts are different lengths - not very noticeable - make sure to replace them correctly as per the manual.
4) your carbs also look cheap Chinese - almost impossible to get working correctly.
5) change the carb jets - 25 pilot jets the 22.5 are too lean, get rid of the airbox lid, and up your mains to 145/150 Mikuni jets without any other mods. That should wake it up a bit. With everything else being equal.
Keep it coming man!
Thank you! I really appreciate the feedback, i knew about the drain plug but i had to take the cylinder off 😅 also thanks for the jetting recommendations. The carbs ill checkout, not sure if theyre cheap china junk or not 👊✊
@@StupidFastJohn they should say Mikuni on the right side.
I bought a niche cylinder kit for my banshee absolute garbage the left cylinder grenaded on heat cycle.
Omg 😱 thats it im ditching it!
John search eBay for stainless steel bolt kit its amazing
Will do thanks for the info 🙌
I got a question for you what atv can hold a 600 cc engine
Depends how much you can fabricate honestly lol
@@StupidFastJohn truu think yfz450r can hold it or trx450 r would b better
240 blaster vs ltr250
Is that motor full of water or solvent
Thats just the coolant i believe you are seeing
Omg it had a niche cylinder
man i want a raptor 660 so bad :D
Theyre out there and widely available brother!
If that raptor has stock gearing your going to wanna drop a front tooth asap bro!
Even with big bore powa?!?
@@StupidFastJohn yes I promise. I have a 01 660 bone stock. With the stock gearing it was geared so high u could barely pull 2nd gear in the trails. Dropped a tooth up front and much better. Drop another and complete wheelie machine
How much did a non running raptor like this cost?
Its a long stort but i break it all down here 👊
m.czcams.com/video/X4n4K0gs9RQ/video.html
Chinese stuff isn’t garbage.. Some stuff you don’t wanna cheap out on but I got a 2000 yahama blaster with a Chinese piston and head. Has been on there for like 8months to a year do not have any problems out of it. Run the shit out it and it runs like 62-65 mph. It’s literally stock other than my brother ported out the head. No pipe or anything on it. 😂
Awwwwe man... why John why 😞
Because i need everyone on Team Raptor ✊👌
chinese cylinder as well john, "niche" should have got your eye,- cams prolly chinese as well call webcams camshafts they have good stuff if you cant get a cam off ebay
Awesome thank you!
Try a 450 Ktm vs a trx er 450
Word! 🤚
Bro you should get a Mic so your not screaming across the garage
I have one on in the vid 👊
hey any 2007 400ex parts you wana donate hmu lol
Wisco overpriced junk 😮 this I do no
Those batteries are shit👎
Im still using it to this day and its been about 9 months now.