HUGE Issue Found with TIME Bicycle Frame
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All in all, in this world and industry, Everything and anything can happen, so qaulity control is a big deal yes but what it really comes down too is how that company handles the issue at hand. Make sure you get a company that you feel comfortable with and has a good reputation because you dont want to be here shit out of luck. Time was very responsive with the first time talking to them and I am sure if the customer wants a new fork, He will get one
That is my biggest thing in everything. Mistakes happen, but how do we respond when they do?
Yo, like I said in the last video, this isn’t the same bike that the CZcamsrs raved about. It’s new ownership. They may claim it’s the same process etc. it’s not. They are going to be moving permanently to South Carolina later in the year, but this frame isn’t the same design and the QC isn’t as good. That’s straight from a guy that’s sold time for the last 10 years.
I've had these issues for 20 years. Its the caliper brake adapter, every brand is different, I have marzocchi forks that need specific adapters or you file clearance into the adapter
@@janeblogs324 How about we not make excuses for obviously crap engineering. I'ts 2024 literally no excuses for this level of craftsmanship.
Asking to sand the excess of a brand new clear coated carbon fork it´s just damage control.
It´s like having a flie on your expensive meal and the waiter pulls it out with his fingers whilst saying: "There you go, hope you enjoy!".
Hey there, this is Dustin from TIME. I wanted to let you guys know that we did not suggest sanding the fork. Our recommendation was to do a file on the clear coat and follow up with a polish. We want to replace the fork for the customer and are in the process of doing so.
lol, jokers.
Instead of sanding off the fork, why not sand off the mount?
How about replacing the fork? @@junkailu5450
File / sand is semantics really. Both unacceptable options.
only Time will tell
I also had an issue with a new Time ADH frame. The rear axle would not thread by hand and it was very clear that the derailleur hanger didn’t sit square in the dropout. On a phone call Time responded by suggesting the hanger was cross-threaded and promptly shipped a new one (in spite of my insistence that it was an alignment problem). I sent pictures and even a video to Time demonstrating the problem but never got another response. Rather than dealing with sending the frame back (which was shipped from Europe), I mixed some epoxy and carbon fiber shavings and filled the area around the hanger mounting screw. I sprayed the hanger with mold release, mounted it loosely in the frame, put a wheel in place and threaded and tightened the axle.
The fix worked perfectly - the axle threads easily and there is no added stress to the hanger mounting screw. I’m lucky in that I have extensive experience working composites, probably not a common situation among bikers.
I love the bike, it rides like a dream, but I’ll never assume a bike frame from Time or any manufacturer, is perfect.
yea sometimes working with a dealer direct it might have some issuers with customer contacts
My personal experience of Time has been very positive in terms of quality. I own two recent models, a friend used to be the Time UK distributer a fair few years back so have seen many in various states of build and I've been lucky enough to ride many of them. My recent models are both made in Slovakia (I think) and were perfect in all aspects that mattered - geometry square, holes round and in line with each other, paint perfect. When you push in a Hambini BB or test the through axles, it all just fits smoothly and is clearly in-spec. on an ADH '23 There was a small amount of excess lacquer that I had to sand off where the seat collar needed to sit, but no problems with this. That's the only issue I have experienced. Back in the day, there were a few 'quirks' with some of the decisions Time made in design that needed a practical minded bike mechanic to work around them, but the quality was always good.
I'm very surprised that a current gen fork got through QC without basic check that the caliber mounts were square and faced. The issue you showed meant that that can't possibly have been checked and passed QC. If you don't mind me asking, was this frame made in Europe or from Time's new facility in US? Not sure if that's up and running or not yet.
All in all, comparing my Time frames to the high end stuff I've owned over the years (Carbon: Colnagos (4), Cipollinis (2), Cervelo (3), Storck (1), Canyon (2)... Titanium: Lynskey, Litespeed) the Time frames have had the fewest issues and just seem put together to last. When the Scylon gets an update I'll be ordering one, then can't see anything other than my Time bikes being my bikes for life.
Hope that helps!
Someone in the old tour-forum had the same problem (different frame) If this would be a canyon, cervelo etc. everyone would be raging how bad the quality is...
The now-defunct Tour Forum… 🥲
This is a perfect example showing defects across all brands, especially frame-only products, in which the brand cannot QC the frame after it gets assembled. What justifies the cost difference is the aftersale services in your region.
This is the truth, they all happen and for me to sit here and go off about it and say its unacceptable is hard to do seeing how many frames just come into my store alone I could not imagine the amount of bikes across the country
couldn't they still QC each frame? I thought non-proprietary brake adapters have a spec
I am an engineer. And as such I would go with the solution that requires the less amount of Faff and is safe, basically what you just did. I would create a ticket with the time just in case if the client wishes to deal with it properly later down the road or the issue evolves into something. That way they can’t tell him it is his fault or the fork is deformed. Anyways saluté Grant, you used your knowhow and experience to resolve a problem. That means you are smart! Not educated but smart, those two might not align.
Smart and educated always align. But there are different types of education. 😀
I take this as the upmost compliment, really means a lot to me and I appreciate it 😊
Good of you in being professional about the this small issue and solving the problem. Keep up the good work.
I appreciate that, just trying to help out happy customers with there new bikes, I dont want to put a damper on his new bike day that we have to wait for a new fork, now he can ride
Paul from Mapdec Cycles is going to have a heart attack when he sees this and I must say that the finishing layer of carbon in the area of the caliper mounts is quite sketchy. Cheap carbon parts from ali are finished better than this. For the price they charge for the frame (~4k$) and all that marketing yapping about their engineering excellence (which apparently is not the case here) I would definitely claim the warranty and demanded the fork to be either replaced or that bulge to be sanded down by themselves. Asking the customer to do this on his own is aliexpress' customer service level....
Mapdec is always quick to slag off other brands quality control and now we’ve got one of his perfect bikes with an issue.
Mapdouche
@@scottwatson7844 Mapdec doesn’t take criticism well 😂
@@17creamYes, like his buddy SCAMbini who also hate criticism.
@@17cream5 y/o aerospace engineer and artisan bike mechanic 😂
Just nice to hear everyone (you, Time, the client) all being cool about it.
Thats what I like too, and if even if the customer was upset to this situation we would get him a solution he liked and I am sure time would as well
Hey time owner. Get that fork replaced.. You paid a pretty penny for that frame.
Good video. I think this was the way to go. Like you said , he can always just make Time aware of it now and if there are any issues later they seem willing to resolve it. Win win.
Thank you for your transparency putting this video together and share.
My pleasure!
My neighbor has this very same frameset. I sent this vid to him. He said the frameset had a couple of issues but no troubles with the front brake adapter.
Works for me. Nice work around. Beautiful build
Awesome video update! Thanks!
I just went and checked my ADHX (exactly 1 yr old) and there is a sliver of daylight between the mount and the fork.
yes as it should be :) but nice bike I love there gravel bikes over there road bikes they look so badass
As the mounting bracket is bolted to the fork at the ends, it is not subject to much bending force where it's been ground away so I'd be perfectly happy with your modification from a technical viewpoint and once it's been painted or varnished I'd be perfectly happy with it aesthetically. I'm more concerned that you seem to have connected the front brake caliper to the wrong ie left hand side, brake lever. Only kidding, I'm from England where, as I'm sure you know, we have our front brake operated by our right hand side brake lever. It's good to see a bike shop thinking what's best for their customer and be willing to carry out such a modification rather than taking the "safe / no liability" time consuming option of getting a replacement fork. Good work GC.
New fork stat.
Great info! I have this frameset in my garage for my next build. I’ll check that fork and see where it stands.
yes this is something to check, it will be great because if there is an issue you will not have to strip down and replace fork, just mount the disc brake adapter ont here
I would expect a replacement from Time. No way that would be acceptable for me.
Yea for sure. There are two types of people
@@GCPerformance18 I guess I'm one of those types. :) I'm ok with that.
@@GCPerformance18 Not sure what you mean by that, but for a $4K frame, the buyer is entitled to one without an obvious manufacturing defect.
I think he meant that some people are ok with a fix and others would rather wait for a replacement fork.@@Dr.Schlitz
@@Dr.Schlitz You didn't watch the video. Time would have replaced the fork no questions asked, but the client opted for a work-around solution.
I am more concerned with Time's blind comment of "sand the carbon" than I am a QC issue...
Yep
Same, it’s much better to remove material from the aluminum adapter.
Right, just carve out the aluminium piece slightly and it will be no problem. Sanding that immaculate carbon is insane.
Its not to much carbon there, carbon cant drip down. Its most likely clear coat + resin (bonding material for carbon) that bulged up there. You can sand it down quite easily, no harm done. I dont think Time would recommend to sand carbon down, they rather recommended to sand the area.
I understood differently. I think they said sand down the clear coat that goes on over the carbon. they often put quite a few layers of clear coat on to give that deep shiny lustre. looks lovely, has no structural effect, so sanding it off is fine. I do agree that you gotta know when to stop sanding! Clear coat sands into a white powder, carbon is black of course. so, its not terribly hard, no more care required than any other bike mechanic job.
I'd ride it with your fix temporarily but i would definitely want a replacement from time.
Try Birchwood Casey Aluminum Black Metal Finish. Works great on alloy firearm parts, I'm sure it will work good on this.
Dude, get a Dremel i've had to do countless little mods like this and having a dremel really speeds up the process. Bench mounted are great but being able to get into nooks and crannies with a mini hand held grinder is so liberating it becomes invaluable.
Couldn't agree more. From a manufacturering BG, I can say all and I mean ALL companies have a product that once in a while leaves the factory and needs attention after and as you say its how its handled that shows their worth!
(Side note) plus that would be incredibly hard to pick up in QC as it wasn't apparent until the fitting and visually probably looked fine (as in mounts were flat) to the inspector.
hard to see in the video but it does look like its just clear coat build up from the paint process, possibly a sag in the clearcoat that didn't get noticed. I've painted thousands of car parts and many bikes and this can happen. Quick fix, if you have the experience, would be to block it out flat and polish it up. But I'd be cautious too if it meant voiding a warranty.
I agree, probably clearcoat. As the fork itself is RTM heated and cured in a steel mold with a solid wax internal mold.
Yeah. This is the most likely. The clear coat on Time bikes is a generous layer for sure. I could guess that Time would just polish down the clear coat and send it back. It’s impossible for it to be structural carbon with how those forks are made.
This is exactly the issue.
The key with engineering is that there is always a solution. Nice job. I'd be happy with that. 👍
:) Thanks so much!!! Means a lot
I’ve had experience with problematic caliper mounts. One way I’ve got around the issue is to use very thin shims specific for the job. They work well but they’re not easy to get.
shouldnt this be considered as a defect? this should be warrantied too...
yes it is a defect and time said it waS
How this passed QC ? this is most common and standard area to be check !!??, this is high end frame for about $4000 .WTF
Well, if TIME can get it wrong then there’s literally no hope for the rest of the industry 🤣
PS I like the solution, I’d have done that myself too.
thanks so much
time quality is down the drain, companies focus more on CZcamsrs than quality
I wonder if you could use a Hope RX4+ caliper, since it has a bit of an arch on the inside right at that point thanks to the adapter-less design.
Your work is great brother wish you had a shop in nyc 🥊✌🏻
Love it,real mechanic skills
:))
4:55 That’s what I would have done (if a fork replacement was not an option, that would be plan A for me) but this wouldn’t be the first time I have had to do a modification to a component like this. The last one was an ENVE seat post bracket and after contacting ENVE they just said “just grind a gap in it till it fits, it will be fine.” Always an email response you keep for your records. 😅
But back to your fork, yea the last thing you want to do is sanding the carbon, it’s way more of a risk than modifying the clamp. However, I do wonder how much material you can safely remove until you run the risk of the part snapping in use? Personally anything more than 20% and I’d rather get a new fork.
Well done on the fix anyway, the life of a bike mechanic. Manufacturer messes it up and we make it work. 😂
I like your way of thinking and solving the issue, personally I would change it for the simple fact of the cost of one of those frames, it is very expensive to tolerate failures of that type, greetings
yes the customer ended up getting a new fork but in the meantime the customer wanted to ride his bike too
If you still have them on the phone ask them for me why my Time shoes came apart this past summer. Bottom part came completely off. QC needs to get on the stick
damn you should reach out to them I heard they are great at getting back to custoemrs
Had similar issues with my Cervelo; needed to face the rear stay for the brake to sit properly.
The actual chainstay? Or where the mount is?
No issue with this kind of things on my rim brake bike :P And by the way, nice solution !!
it is easier to file down the mounting bracket as it just need to keep the proper distance between the caliper and the frame which is being hold by the screws. So in general if you file down the bracket to sit arround the bolge will be better than sanding the fork
Clever fix. Couldn't you add a small stainless washer between the fork and the caliper mount on the lower bolt?
Throw a 2mm washer in the bottom level it out more same with a lot things if tightening one side down completely then the other I've added shims in these before with no rises saves all the gaining and loosing the stench of the parts, but this being a defect time need to warrant the warranty and replace the forks later on fix or not
i agree with the guy about the spacers. he could put a couple of small washers with a plastic washer. that could give enough space but he should just have ordered a new fork if time was going to replace it.
That part of the fork is basically solid carbon so you can pretty grind away 😊
So not a HUGE issue then... but certainly a defect...
Did you weigh the adapter before and after the grinding? Dude, you're saving grams!
Right. Could also grind the outside and make it more aero!
I was thinking that exact solution before you mentioned it. Not sure if you use this, but I found an aluminum blackening touch up pen on Amazon, I use it for all scratched aluminum.
that sounds great we got th ecustomer all take care of
That would be good enough! It's unique.
My suggestion for a short term solution, would have been 1-2mm of washers behind the bottom bolt to flush out the mount until the fork was replaced.
Would a thin washer have worked to pull the brake mount away from the fork?
it needs more then a thin washer, there was a lot of material, and once you add a washer that is enough to work it would not hit the brake rotor where it should onn the pad and can wear outt he pads wrong and not give you full contact on the rotor
You mean to say I should start grinding my disc brake adapters to save weight? Good idea, thanks for the tip
It seems like every bicycle brand has some QC issues these days. 😔
Never heard Colnago C68 or any below this number had quality control (or any other) issues.
Random guy in the back row "This wouldn't be a problem with rim brakes"!
lmao I have seen this in the comments 3 times already lol
Not sure if someone else suggested it, but the first thing that came to mind is to add a little spacer either on top/bottom or on both between the fork and the adapter. This should have distanced the adapter from the fork and work just as well, doesn't it?
Caliper would grab just the tip of the rotor. It would change the position of the caliper since you’re moving away from the frame.
Mechanics, assemblers, technicians should not have to fabricate solutions at this price point.
The first TIME you built from scratch...😂
I see what you did there.
lmao, 1 Time frame, 1 problem had lol
4:50 great solution man.
It almost looks like the adapter should be turned upside down/fliped and turned in. That angle at top of the adapter looks like it should fit. But, good catch. I encountered that on a fork about 5 years ago building one of my bikes.
Not the prettiest solution but probably the best solution.
Could you have spaced the bottom bolt with washers/lockrings to even it with the top bolt when it's tightened? Seems like that would've straightened it and maybe the caliper sits a millimeter or two higher on the rotor but the pad would still function. I'm no mechanic but that would've been my home solution.
In my situation I would get the frame that supports rim brakes cuz fuck disc brake rub and pumping loss. Get aero rim brakes if you are worried about aero.
The Magura QM 50 adapter might work perfectly in this situation.
This is obviously a "fake" Time frame. Because everyone knows that Hambini's word is law when it comes to Time and Look frames and he is NEVER wrong.
Hambini is a hack. It's a technician pretending to be an engineer.
@@sand9577 He's definitely an engineer, but his resume is definitely embellished and he isn't what he tried to give the illusion of.
Hambibi is just another gimmick building a cult of sheep to feed him money.
@@sand9577 Hambini is an accredited engineer. Unfortunately his style comes off too brash...trying to pretend he's a master at literally every field (i.e. - fluid dynamics, composites, etc), which no engineer would do. In his earlier videos (if they are still up), he misrepresented himself by alluding to being an aerospace engineer, which he obviously is not. There's also trust issues with him claiming he does NDT, but he never shows any NDT (not once in any video!). He also makes statements like World Tour teams use his BB's, but there is not a single documented example out there in the wild (how can this be when there's cycling media cameras at every major race?). Hambini singing praises over those two junky Chinese eBikes he did promo videos on should tell you all need to know about his sincerity. The real issue is his viewers were more outraged over the Hambini exposé instead of the actual content within the exposé.
@@Ryan_Odyssey Hambini's credentials are made out of rubber that can seemingly stretch over anything, but do not hold up to any scrutiny. His master or PhD thesis can't be found anywhere, no one can accurate prove he worked anywhere he says he worked, not even him. It all indicates that the Hambini persona is a mix and match of several actual engineers. If he were a fraction of the engineer he thinks he is, he should have known better than to defame a journalist a couple of years back. You know, basic HR training that all-knowing Hambini must have skipped.
Nice job!
Thanks!
For me it looks like the lower munting point recessed in to the fork. Maybe that unidirectional carbon at the bottom is too tight?
No direct criticism to anyone involved, certainly not yourself, but if I was that customer I'd absolutely be requesting a new fork from Time.
Even if the solution works for this particular customer at the moment, the idea that this customer / future owners of the bike will have to modify a brake mount to fit different size rotors just feels poor for a premium product costing thousands. Fair enough it's an appropriate bodge to ensure the customer can ride the bike soon, but I'd expect Time to make it right all the same (ie send a new fork and, once received, send the faulty one back).
of course, and that is a route I told the customer to make aware to the company and he can do when he wants too, The reason it is like this is because he is a far away drive like 2-3 hours, and i am not a time dealer, he bought the bike direct to them so he has to handle all the back and forth to get the new fork, but that takes time and I know he has been waiting for this build to be done so he wants to ride now, so I am sure he is going to email them and make them aware
@@GCPerformance18 Absolutely, and chapeau to you for taking the time and effort to find a solution which can get the customer pedalling as soon as possible! Very jealous…
Just put a washer on lower bolt between fork and brake mount so it evens out.
This is what happens when you let social media influencers dictate what to purchase instead of going out and trying bikes for yourself. Definitely this guy isn’t a 1st time buyer and TIME framesets aren’t cheap with his schmolke stem. I would’ve sent that whole frame back.
I wont lie, those wheels look very nice! If they would add quality steel I would purchase a pair.
yea these wheels are the bees knees I am doing these wheels for my bike build
Dustin son ever heard of quality control, final visual I was thinking of a Time but !!!!!!
they are making it right for it, accidents happen
I’m curious why you didn’t use a thin washer on the bottom bolt. No grinding necessary.
The Master Machanic strikes again 🤙🏻 have you ever had any Moda road bikes in the shop 🤔 i have the Moda Finale.
I have not what are those models
@@GCPerformance18 Moda is an English Company based in Lancashire, England 🏴
The grind downed bracket would bother me to no end. Also, wouldn't the fork come out of a mold? The fork should be fully cured inside a mold before the mold is removed. How can a lump exist like that?
I have a friend who said he could machine one perfectly, this was a case of the customer is eager to ride his new bike and also needed to be done by saturday, I am a problem solver at that point and want to make him happy and have his bike ready to ride, in the meantime of him deciding what he wants to do
Inadequate mold pressure
Fork is likely made without the through axel ends which are bonded on in a separate step after molding the tube section. A bit of extra epoxy dripped when the tips were added.
why not using a whasher? i dont understand that part.
If there is something with the seatpost and Schmolke sees that you have clamped it in this area, bye bye warranty.
Lightweight parts have to handled differently to normal carbon parts.
it is clamped very softly, I work on lightweight parts all the time like darimo, there is no stress on there, and if you think there is, just from the weight of the bike in that stand then imagine a 165lb rider going down a hill or mountain and hitting a bump while the rider is seated.... what do you think is going to have more stress, I would hope those seatpost can withstand riders weight, where as this case the clamp is very loose on there with only the weight of the bike
It just goes to show that even top end frames have some quality control problems.....Hambini is the real deal when it comes to quality control,i use his bottom brackets in my 4 bikes,he knows what he is talking about,but i have 2 Elves Falaths pro,s...1 in TT trim and 1 with co-efficient handlebars Hypers D57 Sram AXS e-tap,and have to say anyone who has ridden the bike says wow what a bike,i have never had a problem with either of them,but his one he said was not good.Honestly i can hand on heart say that every one of my friends who have one has NEVER had a problem so it just goes to show it can happen on a top end frame or a budget frame.
Hambini - The awesome engineer that has a totally shagged out bike that he's totally failed to maintain.
Reginald Scot CZcams channel already telling the truth about BB scambini.
Ok Elves it is. If anyone has problems than I will go for the cheapest one 😎😅
good idea
If I was buying a Time frame for 4000€, with the reputation they have, I would expect perfection. No way that I would accept something like this. I know that grinding a little bit of the bracket is no problem, but I would think of that everytime I would ride the bike
Looking at my fork, theres definitely a lump on your customers fork which shouldn’t be there. Also the bottom nut looks to be too recessed. Get a warranty replacement.
I would have time sent out a new fork and let them pay for the extra labor. In the mean time... would ride the bike while waiting on the new fork. Good solution... but i wouldnt be happy as a long term solution
I think I would be reluctant to try riding it. If Grant were a good mechanic he wouldn't let this thing pass or try to hack it. It's not good PR to show his viewers this is the fix he thought the customer would want.
@@charlesmansplainingbut he asked the owner what he wanted to do. It was owner’s decision.
@@Questioneverything72the owner said he wanted to weight weenie a brake adapter? Think about the loads going through that with the now reduced cross section.
@@Questioneverything72 Let the owner do it himself then. A professional bike shop should not do something like this. Grant could be partially responsible if the brakes fail and results in an accident or injury.
@@charlesmansplaining I disagree. Owner made an informed decision. And once Grant paints ground section protecting it from corrosion, it is highly unlikely that adaptor fails because from what I see it is still thick and strong. Furthermore, scientifically speaking ( physics), adaptor’s main job is not force bearing. It is for brake position and alignment. In braking, vector of force is upward on lower bolt ( braking wants to pull it out). and downward on upper bolt ( braking pushes the bolt down). If bolts are not loose and not moving there is almost no tension or force in the middle of adaptor because two side are fixed and not moving. You can ask Hambini if you doubt it 😂 joking
Hey GC,
When an issue like this is discovered, regardless of the resolution, one has to question Time's overall quality control practices, i.e., ummmm what else did they miss????
...worth asking Mapdec he has his head in the sand when it comes to Time.
You don’t just grind off parts of the brake mounting system. It’s safety-critical. Sounds like Time are replacing the fork, which is the correct outcome.
its a small amount and that mount is braced by the fork itself, there is not enough pressure in the world where that brake mount fails... even braking down hill for 100 miles, the rotor would brake before that mount
@@GCPerformance18I'm glad you're confident. Because you've now won liability in the event of an accident involving the front brake...
The fork needs to be repaired or replaced by the frame manufacturer. No way I’m accepting a solution like this other than temporary while they take care of it.
So why is this a 'huge' issue as you say so in your title? You had a quick fix and you could have had a new fork in warranty. That's what I would call, as a bike shop, a small issue. Much hot air being moved for next to nothing.
Other brands get REAMED by youtubers for possible tolerance/qc issues. This praised manufacturers frame has an actual issue! So this must be huge. Or certain engineering youtubers are not what they make themselves appear?
@@michaelhaaryoutube is full of drama queens.
to show every company has issues, where as on this platform time is held to this golden standard of how QC is done, but this is my first ever time build and the first frame i see has this defect, it is a solution yes and done by a mechanic who has seen this before but lets say this customer took on this build project himself at home after spending 4,000 usd for a frame.... it is not right to have this issue and I am sure if the person at home had this happen while building and they had to strip down there whole bike again after being built and wait for a new fork it would be a bigger problem
The problem is with the plate (adapter), I use original Shimano, or even Chinese clone and have perfetc fit. The forks comes from the form, and it cannot change the shape that much, then it is polished and varnished. It could be heavier coat of varnish.
Yea….. as I said I have multiples of the adapters that I tried on and even sram one as well. And those all work on other bikes. In this case it was the fork
The form is made of steel and doesn't deform, but in post-production finishit could somehow effect the end shape. I looked at my fork, and see 1mm gap only.@@GCPerformance18
Ill be fine w that. Not a biggie as long as it works.
I think I would have made more effort to contact Time than a "Couple of Instragram messages" not convinced that gets you in touch with the right people. Customer is as much to blame with 'I want the bike this weekend". Just replace the fork and not bodge.
so you solved problem, disc brake adapter should be different
The design of brake adaptors needs to change to allow some clearance without having to grind them like that.
I had a small problem with my Yoeleo R12. They have made it right for me. Communication was not fast or easy. But they sent me a replacement seatpost. That is what mattered. The rest of the bikecis flawless. As you say, stuff happens. It is how companies respond that matters.
If you would have put a plastic or carbon spacer, to offset the gap or height in the flaw it would work perfectly! Worked for Toyota for 13 years, was a Master Technician!
I thought about putting a washer in the gap too. 👍🏼
Would this have potentially put the caliper in the wrong position relative to the disc though 🤔
@@davidgeorge9233 This is another example of the industry incompetence to get the standards perfect across the board. I have noticed alignment differences between a few of the bikes I have owned over the years. Rarely do the pads hit that sweet spot on the rotors and it is because the calipers cannot be mounted but only one way with the two bolts. And the mounting holes on the frame have not been faced. The brakes work but if you look at the wear marks on the rotors the evidence is clear.
Well If you put spacer on it, the caliber will be away from the rotor about more or less millimeters and the braking will feel weird and it will damage the caliber like piston. Since you said you work for Toyota, this doesn't make any sense about bicycle...it's a car, not a bicycle. Bruh!
@pochmaui how would 1 mm damage the caliper? Most bike frames and wheel combos require caliper adjustment to ensure correct fitment without rub. 1-2 mm is sweet nothing in respect to how big the pads are.
Proper bike mechanics!
Thank you!!
You did what I would have done...I'd just get a black marker for the ground down parts
nailpolish or spray paint
Please, no sanding of the fork. I'm curious 🤔. Did Time recommend any possible solutions? But a good 👍 job leaving no detail too small alone. I'm sure Time will honor 🎖 any further claims down the road. It's not a big issue, but it shouldn't be there. Great bike shop 👌 and good 👍 honest 👦 fellow.
Place 1 washer at each bolt. Or sand the mount (not the fork) 2mm.
Shouldn't there be a washer or spacer under the mounting plate to make space for the bulge? That is, like a post-mount disk brake?
where is mapdec?
Mail the bike to Hambini for reaming!!!
Put a shim washer or two under one side
This shows that all manufacturers can have defects occasionally.. it’s one of those things. A lot of channels have a go at some big manufactures who have the odd issue which gets highlighted but the majority of products they produce are good quality. Just my opinion.. Pete 👍🚴🏻