This Will 10X Your Modeling Speed | Greyboxing
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- čas přidán 27. 05. 2024
- GreyBoxing, a step many of you skip while creating your art projects, in this video we'll talk about it in depth, and discover how it can be critical to the success to your projects.
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Mockup, block up, prototype, layout, scale test, grey box. Call it what you want but pretty much any graphic artist does this, especially level designers.
Have to, modern levels are too complex to waste time on.
Newbies prefer to start making detailed level art, because is fun and "easy". When they jump to animation, programming etc, they give up because they see that making a game it is way harder than they though.
Wait till they have to write a careful desgin document for every level / mechanism & story
@@thanatosor Or till they have to submit their work with freeze'd transformations, pivots in center of world, no pinches, everything named correctly, integrated in engine, packed and screenshotted 😂
I thought the same thing, except I'm good at programming, which, as you may imagine, isn't the only thing needed to create a game.
@@vectorlua8081 I think if you are programmer you can create an entire game by yourself using premade assets or placeholder models. A 3D/2D artist can't do that. But, of course the result may be better if you team up with a game designer and an artist.
@@Patxi__ They can, sure. They can still come up to problems tho. Some assets are made with lightmaps, other without, some will be lowpoly, some much less optimized. Wait till u put 3 guns in game and get 2 fps
Before: realistic image without doubt
After: JUST A WHITE CONCRETE
*_Last Brain Cell Left the game_*
I always overlooked it. Great lesson.
Isnt this just called Blocking out?
Same thing really
It works. The term blocking a scene has to do with tv/ movie scenes, its origin comes from theatre. Someone used little wood blocks to illustrate how he wanted the actors to move around.
Thank you so much! for this amazing video
I dont think whitebox testing is referring to the color of the boxes, its a general computer science/software engineer term, I think whitebox testing refers to testing a system that you have the "lights on" you can see every input and going in and seeing how they work in the system, Blackbox testing is testing only the outputs, you could careless about the inner workings of the system because it is just a dark black box to you that and you only care about what goes in and what comes out, I imagine greyboxing is actually a term describing both of these kinds of tests or a middle ground.
Great video :) It's also called blocking in or blocking out. In fact, I think those terms are used more often than "insert-color-here Boxing".
Great video. Where did the thumbnail drawing for the compositions come from? It is shown at 5:00.
Most certainly the dust two think about!
Unreal dynamic meshes kinda kill this part, so I love it because I hate looking at my blank game. When I finish a room and the rest is just blocks, it also kills my motivation. So in my opinion, it’s not something I do. I do, however, plan it in 2D top-down, usually on paper or Photoshop. Milanote is also a cool tool for this planning phase.
I am Level Designer. Greyboxing, whiteboxing, blockout it's very usefull.
This video could be summarized into 1 sentence: concepting and blockout is necessary for a coherent level,
and gives you the opportunity to test and plan gameplay early on.
If youre looking for a tutorial on blockout modeling in unreal engine look elsewhere
Prototyping basically.
i will try this method tomorrow to make body of aircraft (3D Model)
Have fun
My games more of a round world filled with giant balls and default material is coming in blue not grey. Would I still need to grey box this or is blue balling fine?
Nice idea as 3D artist game development and level disainer ECT
This nice idea for making prototype maps for my game.
As solo developer it was nice idea.
I find it difficult to swap the greybox with the actual models.
I did a small island with paths and filled the spaces with boxes "buildings". Had no idea how to get the final art fitting without going back and forth and constantly readjusting
generally your greybox models and final meshes should conform to some predetermined dimensions.
you then create your final buildings as best to the dimensions/overall silhouette of your placeholder greybox models.
For me personally, I just overwrite and save the new meshes over the greybox's fbx - and atleast in Unreal Engine, you can right click and refresh the 3d model in the library browser to make it update to the new mesh. And since the same greybox should be instantiated across the map, it should update all the models to be the same.
This way you don't have to go back and forth with replacing your placeholder greybox meshes with the final assets unless you need to.
To add to what the other person replying to this said... you can also probably take your grey-boxes into blender and create your actual models around the grey-box to make sure that the scale and overall shape are accurate if the issue is scaling rather than placement
Amazing, thank you so much! Can you clarify one more detail, is it better to create whole scenes and move them to game engine? Or separate it into tiles and then put them together?
Separate them into tiles. You basically would want to go as modular as you can. Every prop exported as its own fbx. If your whole level is out of one mesh export, a lot of problems can occur
@@Fenseone thank you!
Modern indie games: Just ship the grayboxed environments with some color splashed onto it.
No mention of building grey boxing on a grid, modular... pretty important to know for env art.
>sadly it is often overlooked by a lot of beginner artists
Is it? If they are artists and wish to improve at art, in game dev say.. environment art, I am not sure that going off and also plunging into level design is a great way to improve at environment art.
It’s overlooked by a ton of beginner artists unfortunately. A lot of them don’t understand how to get a good visual of what they’re working on, so they work on individual pieces to “AAA quality” like they see on random UE5 videos, and then give up when it gets hard.
There i also a beautifull corner techinique
80% results in 20% time
though if you're on budget and using owned assets in vault, then just very rough path blockout, filled by assets very soon to adjust level design on the go, to fit with assets u own or bought
Low-poly as fill ins.
Always begin with the largest features.
I usually hear this referred to as blocking.
is there a paid courses that teach that ? in spesfic for UE5 game development?
Greyboxing actually the most easiest step in GameDev. first draw your scene as top view map.
2nd put your character
3rd start greyboxing. scale them with appropriate scale. so building wont look as big
4rd build as simple not full modeled
5rd export them to 3d software and heavy modeled in that software
repeat each level
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“Press E to grab?” NOOOO. Press G to grab!
But you just threw a grenade?! 😂
Ah... Dust 2
Wtf is wrong with the thumbnail!? XD
My mans just made a whole 8 minute video explaining the most basic first step everyone who works in 3D already does but presents it as some kind of godlike speed tip lol
If anything, it's just a reminder to put more emphasis behind doing it. Not exactly a "life hack no one knows about"
You make the most useless vids I've seen on here lmao
he’s not talking to professionals, he’s talking to schmucks like me f’ing around in their basement after work.
Hey I found this video extremely helpful as a newbie, check yourself bud I'm sure you can learn something valuable watching beginner tutorials if you try
Need to explain this process to Fiverr clients... Trust me they all want to skip this step of development
Block out - work in everything from sculpting to a whole environment concept art 😂
No, really, this make environment concept artist life much easier to read game designer intention before making new scene/map.
Dude sounds like a mosquito circling the mic, lol
The video is good but your voice needs some work, ending every sentence in the same tone is a recipe to put the viewers to sleep.
I don't really think his tone was that flat... sure, it wasn't dramatically flamboyant, but it's not like he's trying to do voice acting for a character, so it doesn't need to be dramatic