10 Hoyas REALLY Worth Your Money
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- čas přidán 29. 07. 2024
- Hello friends! Today I wanted to share with you 10 hoyas that are really worth your money!
In the past, I talked about hoyas that are in my opinion overpriced but today I wanted to share the other side of the story. Some of these hoyas are not that often talked about so who knows? Maybe there are new hoyas there for you!
CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro
03:53 Hoya yuennanensis
09:24 Hoya vangviengiensis
13:31 Hoya praetorii
16:21 Hoya dennisii
18:42 Hoya thuathienhuensis
20:53 Hoya sp. NS11-159
22:52 Hoya piestolepis NS11-092
25:03 Hoya solaniflora NS12-277
27:33 Hoya carrii NS13-064
28:41 Hoya medinillifolia
31:20 Outro
32:16 Patreon Thank You
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Photos used in the video are not mine. They are borrowed from the Internet.
Credits:
1. Hoya yuennanensis
www.botanyvn.com/cnt.asp?param...
2. Hoya vangviengiensis
www.semanticscholar.org/paper...
3. Hoya praetorii
Jackie, from @jackiesjungleinthedesert on Instagram
4. Hoya dennisii
Karolina, from @frihetienask on Instagram
5. Hoya thuathienhuensis
Pieter de Leeuw, from @pieterplants on Instagram
6. Hoya sp. NS11-159
Summer Rayne Oakes, 400+ Hoya Houseplant Tour - Ep 113
• 400+ Hoya Houseplant T...
7. Hoya piestolepis NS11-092
i.pinimg.com/originals/b9/98/...
8. Hoya solaniflora NS12-277
i.pinimg.com/originals/db/f3/...
9. Hoya carrii NS13-064
i.pinimg.com/originals/83/57/...
10. Hoya medinillifolia
Surisa Somadee
pakehas-hoya.com/Photos/Fleur/...
i.pinimg.com/originals/d1/97/...
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Research links:
1. Taxonomy of Hoya lyi, Hoya yuennanensis and Hoya mekongensis (Apocynaceae - Asclepiadoideae)
www.researchgate.net/publicat...
2. International Plant Names Index
www.ipni.org/
3. Plants of the World Online
powo.science.kew.org/
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Can you say pearly purple FAST 10 times?
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@@betsybegonia it is definitely not lavender 😂
you could also say it’s a purple frost. or iridescent “something”?
Yep, I can. 😂
My sisters cats name is pretty purple pearl 😂
I absolutely love your dry sense of humor
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Omg me to where have you been 😂😂😂💀☠️😵
I would love to see you do a series on which Hoyas like cooler temps vs ones that do not and which Hoyas can take low humidity vs ones that can not
$4,000? A used car, maybe a really nice piece of investment furniture. Definitely not a Hoya I will likely kill 😂🤣
love your videos, always learning AND getting some good laughs on a Friday.
Or a trip :D And see them in person! I wouldn't buy a car, I am too anxious to learn how to drive 😂 A nice armchair would be nice though.
@@BasiePlants ah, yes, a trip!!! I’m going to Maui next month (close to seattle where I live). Excited to see some houseplants in the wild!
thats exactly what i was thinking, i got my car for 5000AUD as my first car, its still going strong after 4 years. i cant guarantee that hoya can live 4 years under my care.
I really appreciate the historical/background information of the plants!
I am glad you enjoyed it. It was fun to hoyavestigate! 😂
How is nobody going to say what we're all thinking? Your hair looks great when it's tucked back like that.
Everyone is afraid to say it 😂
@@BasiePlants something about seeing someone's ears is quite intimidating....lmaoo the hair does suit your planty essence.
So good to see another video so quickly. Love your content and personality. For $4000 - I would go on a huge trip. No to the 2 Hoya nodes and yes to a few weeks in Europe.
Definitely! I would go to Thailand or anywhere else in SE Asia instead.
Lol lol you always make my day. Thank you for your side stories, and for being the wonderful nerd that you are.
Thank you 💚 Hahaha, well I am glad there are some people who like planty and nerdy things :D
Love to see new Hoyas. Beautiful, beautiful flowers types and colours.
hmmm a 2-node rare compacta variety or a closet-sized apartment in nyc. this is like sophie’s choice!
😂 well, both are tiny and overpriced xD So, at least something is in common there!
You could pay to travel to a country where it is possible to see Hoya species in the wild with that kind of money
Yup! If only I had $4000 to spare 😂
love your new hair :) very classy!
Thank you 😊
Watching your videos is always like sitting down with a similarly strange friend I really missed. Thanks for being you and making the videos you make. Me, my cats and my Hoyas send you love and well wishes from Alberta, Canada 💜
...for $4000 I would get $4000 into a Roth IRA 🤣 and enjoy my awesome Hoya carnosa splash that is blooming like mad and has the most awesome leaves and that is so dear to me because I got it from a friend as a cutting and both the mother plant and daughter are very diligent growers and bloomers for us under office neon lights and home sunny window conditions alike. What a Hoya! 😍
Sounds like a much better plan 😂 I do like carnosas, some people think I hate them because I don't talk about them nicely. But in fact, I do like them, it's just, the hype is way too much.
The thumbnail is everything!
Hahaha it is a bit creepy though 😂
Thank you for making such informative hoya videos! Not many people go really in depth so this is really interesting ! And I love your sense of humor 😂
You always make me smile, thank you for that😊
As always I laughed so hard. Great video ❤️! Thanks for bringing that Hoya hometour video up, I watched it like a thousand times and will probably watch it again :) I always notice new details, its a true hoya heaven
Wow. Those hoyas are beautiful. Bravo for your pronunciation skills.
They really are! Hahaha I am sure I pronounced a lot of the things wrong 😂
Love your humor and knowledge. Bought a two leaf rooted. Macrophylla cutting after watching your video.
That is a lovely hoya to have! I love mine!
Loved this! Funny and informative!
Love your videos! I'd suggest holding the picture of the plant on the side while talking about it, cuz my memory is short 🙈
Thanks :) I like to switch it up so it's not just static for too long.
I love that you take the time to share the origin story. Great video!
Thank you! Glad you found it interesting :)
This is my favorite video by you to date. You made me lol about the drunk tubing.... Omg.... Keep doing this wild tangent humor about the places these plants are from! It is such good content, so enjoyable... I am falling in love with you more and more each video. I have started to tell everyone to start watching you! Please make some funky, fun merch! Xoxo
This was fabulous Miro😉🙏💖Your facts and stories are so interesting! I enjoyed watching so much🤲🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
I love all of them, I knew nothing about any of them, and I love you, you are just adorable!
In that case, I am glad you learned about them! :D
OMG Love 🥰 I’m so glad I happened across your video!! You are fabulous and I learned so much, thank you!!! I only have 6 Hoyas, none of which have bloomed yet BUT 🤞🏻🍀
The Flower of H.praetorii kinda reminds me of bats hanging down from the ceiling. Imagine the corona was the head and the blooms were black :D 14:30
Thanks for another great video. I enjoy all the information you provide on the plants. I'm a newbie on the hoya craze. Although it's one of the plants that my mother had that always intrigued me as a youngster. H. carnosa - the classic from the past
You are so much fun to watch......make more videos....about anything.....I said it before and I say again....You and Betsy need your own T.V. show! lol And I was only teasing about the hair.....; )
I keep bringing out more :D
Those prices are crazy. To me its like throwing 4000 bucks out the window as you are driving on the freeway…
Right?! I wonder what's the limit.
How have I never watched your channel before??? Instant sub
I love the research great work!
In New Zealand we have a very limited variety of hoya available to us, not allowed to import unless they are on the MPI list and quite a few Hoya are sold for $4000 for one node. None to me.
Oh goodness! I heard it is hard to import plants to Australia and New Zealand. It's hard here too, but thankfully not $4000 for a node. Otherwise, I would have a channel about empty pots 😂
Good info. Glad I watched your video
11:26, 15:50😄😄😄. Very informative. Good presentation. ❤ 4 of the hoyas shown, pretty flowers!!! Thanks a lot.
I think they are all so cute! :D Some cute, some gorgeous.
Great vid, loved it, fun to watch👍👍
Thank you :)
Lol too funny, I grew up in the country an tubing is Awesome. Just don’t drink when your doing it. Love the research that you do. 💚
Never heard of any of the Hoyas but I want them all. My favorite would be the last Hoya you spoke about ❤️Hoya Medinillifoli ❤️ The flowers are gorgeous!!
Oh I am glad you discovered them then! They are all super cool and definitely worth having! H.medinillifolia is great, if you can get it. I think it has the most unique flowers!
Ahhhh yes. Welcome child. Come into the dark side
I really appreciate all the work that you are doing to make this type of videos🥰 you are brilliant. I could never do that, don't have the patience to do it.
And thank you for adding more hoyas to my list🙄😘
Haha 😂 Well, I feel like I should not just be adding hoyas to my wishlist, I have to spread the curse 😂
@@BasiePlants you are so kind😂
Very interesting information!
It’s 38C in Toronto, Canada…. Thank gosh for the air conditioning. If I had $4000, I would take a really really awesome vacation to Central America!
Lovely flowers! Thank you
You're welcome! :)
Phew, only that it was you, you are so funny. Loved the Hoyas, drunk tubing 🤣🤪. I had to google, I found 2 of them in Thailand, just might have to add them to my next order.
Oh, I hope you do! :D I definitely plant to get some of these, hopefully soon. Once when the sun chills out perhaps and decides not to set me on fire.
Great list Miro!
NS11-159 💓 and solaniflora NS12-277 😍
OMG, I died and went to hoya heaven on those two!!! 🤤🥰🤪
You had me at the River pronounciations (even if I too don’t know if they’re correct). Appreciate the knowledge ☺️🤗
#NewSubbie
I want an update to this video… i feel like theres been a Hoya boom, again, or maybe it never stopped, i for sure just got into it, and i’d love to see how this list aged and how it changes with the current market now, and different / new hoya?
Loved the video .. my fav is ur fav too .. gorgeous blooms 🙏
They are all gorgeous! :D But I do think sp.NS11-159 is my absolute favorite. Realistically though, medinillifolia :)
Miro my wish list is growing!!!!! They all new to me…. I want them all 😍🤪
I am so bad. I expand people's wishlist 😂 I am actually working for hoya mafia, this is a part of our long-term plan.
I love your sense of humour
I am glad you do :D
It would be interesting to have an updated video on crazy Hoya prices. I paid $30.00 for a 2 node variegated compacted cutting 3 years ago. It has survived but it has only grown about 2 inches. I’m kinda glad I didn’t pay more.😅
Thank you 🙏 so much. I love watching your videos. Even before I open my own CZcams channel. Thanks for your support.🇺🇸❤️👍
ha ha had my daily portion of laugh thx to you.
Glad to hear you had a good laugh! :)
LOVED a this video! Adored vAngviensis!!!’ You are looking very slim and handsome!!!💚
You asked, so I'll say that I have only purchased very young, affordable plants. Cuttings, plugs... I have never purchased a full mature plant. I'm cheap, and I love the process of watching them grow and change. I wouldn't pay more than 15$ for a Hoya cutting. I wait until the price comes down. It always does. I don't judge, but I couldn't ever provide that big money for a plant cutting. I think it's dumb. But I also pay no mind to others. If that's what makes them happy, it's fine. Just no poaching activity, of course....
I only purchase from my local nursery, or a valid grower. No imports.
4k... I would get myself a very nice Hoya for 10 quids from local garden centre, I always struggle to buy a whole plant , so it would be like a treat after years on cuttings)) and the rest I would spend on journey across Japan, as far and as long as money lasts))
That sounds like a fantastic plan :D
I love the extra Hoya origin adulation 🙌🙌🙌🙌
Have you heard of tubing on the Guadalupe River in Texas? Great fun...The only time I almost drowned in 5 inches of water...of course pulling a tube with a cooler full of...Beer...Love your videos!
I think that the drunken tubing actually was born here in Wisconsin. If not, we perfected it.
I think I've found the villages where hoya yuennanensis was found. (bear in mind I'm not a native Chinese speaker, I've just been learning it for a few years, so if there are any mistakes, please let me know).
all of the names are in romanization that is no longer used, so I've written down the old and new romanization, the Chinese characters, and the coordinates.
Lota - Luoda 洛达 (27° 53' 50" N 98° 58' 38" E)
Tsekou - Cigu 茨姑 (28° 0' 30" N 98° 53' 45" E)
both of those sets of coordinates would make sense according to what I found on jstor when I searched for hoya yuennanensis (27°55' - 28°2'N)
Loudre - I haven't found a village with that name, but I found a different plant which was found in the Mountains of Londjre/Loudre, Mekong-Salween watershed, southeastern Tibet, northwestern Yunnan. so it could just be Gaoligong Mountains, but I can't really pinpoint any specific location.
I've also found an entry from the book of the person that collected/identified it, Heinrich Raphael Eduard Freiherr von Handel-Mazzetti (let's all say a thank you for the standard abbreviation - Hand.-Mazz. lmao). he also mentions a village called Wuli (雾里村 28°03'39.2"N 98°36'27.6"E, unfortunately, it's not visible on google maps, only baidu maps work. it is 12 km up north from Bingzhongluo village 丙中洛村) "within the mountains near Salwin by Tschamutong". and, from what I could find, Tschamutong could be a historical name of the county that has the previously mentioned Gaoligong Mountains.
this was one of the nerdiest things I've done in a while, feels soooo good 🤓😂
Omg thank you 😭😂 Yes, I read the original entry and had to translate because Latin is dead 😂 I was gonna look up the coordinates but then I realized I am still looking up the first hoya and I need to look up 9 more and record, edit and publish the video 😂 I will definitely look them up now 👀 Long live the nerds :D
I was so excited to read this because I started my hunt by searching for wine grown in this region since "Loudre" seems like a French misspelling of a Chinese town name. And I found a wine grown in Tsekou which led me further down that hole.
I found the Hoya taxonomy paper Miro referenced, and it says that Hoya yuennanensis had also been identified in a place called "Tsedjrong". I found a French travel blog in which they passed through that town but they noted the spelling as "Cizhong". By searching for Cizhong in Google Maps I found that it's actually called Ci Zhong Da Qiao, and just south of it is Cigu! I told Miro "this is just a hunch but it seems like Cigu might be the correct spelling of Tsekou" and then he showed me your comment. I'm pumped that I was right! Mind you I don't know a lick about Chinese or its pronunciation.
Anyway, I also can't find a town name that a French person might misspell as "Loudre" but here's what I know: this document says it was identified by Frank Kingdon-Ward in "Loudre". It reminded me of "Lourdes". Lourdes is a city in France located just at the base of the Pyrénées mountains and lourdes is also a Basque word that describes an area with a lot of craggy rock, like the base of a mountain (such as the area of Lourdes, France or the area at the base of the mountains where this Hoya seems to grow). Could be a misspelling or mistranslation somewhere along the line. Anyway I don't have any conclusions but this was a fun read, huh? 😂
@@betsybegonia it is a fantastic read. I think we all deserve some wine from Yunnan for a job well done.
@@betsybegonia I've also found Cizhong and went down the rabbit hole and started reading about the Tibetan Catholic Church build there by the French missionaries. they planted the grape vines and, I assume, invited some botanists 😂
also, good job with recognizing the Chinese names! when it comes to documents written before 1949, the romanization can be all over the place. we definitely deserve some Yunnanese wine or maybe a Yunnanese hoya 😂 long live the nerds!💪
Thanks a lot...
For $4,000 I would just buy a very nice glass greenhouse with temp control. So I can add more hoyas in it. Or does it have to be a hoya? Lol
Ps you are looking very nice these days! 😎
Hi everyone! Just to remark about the H. vangviengiensis, I have this Hoya thanks to a specialty shop where I live selling cuttings of rare Hoyas sometimes and since getting it, it has only put out ONE leaf (over the course of a little more than a year). So VERY slow growing... but I got it for a good price though!
New subscriber. Thank you for the information and entertainment! I have a question all the way from the east coast of Canada, in Nova Scotia...do you script your content or is it all off of memory? Great content, thanks for the share!
Thank you for subscribing :) Only the species spotlights are scripted :)
@@BasiePlants you made for this!
I think you did wonderful:)
Thank you 💚
@@BasiePlants you are welcome! I had a request for you: can you please talk about H. Noona:) Thank You.
I would like to own the last hoya you mentioned. Because the flowers are amazing and most importantly it is origin fromy own country, Malaysia ❤
Love your videos. You are adorable too.
I am glad to hear you do :)
I had the dennisii. It died on me because I couldn't figure out the watering. It did not appreciate being underwatered and was prone to rotting.
If I'd try it again I probably try semi-hydro with seramis or leca.
I can't wait to get one so I can try it out! The flowers are absolutely gorgeous. Maybe self-watering would work too?
@@BasiePlants Very likely. Atleast with me being more on the neglectful side of plant keeping, semi hydro would have helped.
I've got my papaschonii and imperialis in passive hydro and they do quite well with the more regular water suplly.
😂 love your introduction
It is way too hot 😂
Drunken tubing, ah the good old days 🤣 I live in Minnesota and have done this many times, in recent memory one one woman didn’t make it. 😬 good thing I’m an old (35) sensible woman with cats & plants to think about these days 🤣
Haha 😂 I never tried it but honestly going to that many bars is insane. I wouldn't be able to walk. Then again, tubing doesn't require you to, so... 😂
@@BasiePlants the tricky part is getting out of the tube. That’s a struggle sober some days 😝
Also from Minnesota - tubing is a right of passage for most of us crazy people we also do it in the winter on the frozen snow covered hills (did I mention crazy) love all the hoyas thank you so much for doing all the research beautiful maps and pictures
@@susanjohnson5824 yea indeed, it is a right of passage here 🤣 I suddenly feel like I need to start talking about the weather with another Minnesotan here 😂😂
reading comments before coming to the subject in the video, i had visions of drumken YOU tubing…”miro looks perfectly sober to me” ..haha-(also from minnesota)
Do you have the chinese characters for the villages?
There were none in the original publication. However, this is what we have so far. A subscriber found 2 out of 3 villages. Lota - Luoda 洛达 (27° 53' 50" N 98° 58' 38" E), Tsekou - Cigu 茨姑 (28° 0' 30" N 98° 53' 45" E). Loudre seems to be the hardest one to find :)
When you say you like the thinner leaved hoyas, are you talking about thickness or narrowness?
Thickness :) Though I do love a narrow leaf too - retusa, acicularis etc :)
Tubing sounds fun though
I have done some drunk tubing 😂 To be fair the river where the event was hosted is verrrrry slow. There were also cops making sure we had lifejackets.
Haha I don’t know why I’ve never noticed your sense of humour before 😅 you’re quite funny! 😂 I would never spend $4000 on a Hoya. I’d rather go on a vacation to Thailand!
Thuathienhuansis is a little bit similar with pimentelliana pink in flowers also Pimentelliana has thin and velvety leaves.
That is another great one to have! I still haven't looked much into it, I know cagayaensis is also mentioned there.
For $4000? I’d go on vacation. And if I can’t do that I’ll update something in my house. Yikes. I would not spend that on 2 nodes….and I’m Hoya obsessed
i would like to get hoya praetorii & medinillifolia .. and i hope i able to bloom my dennisii .. the flower is amazing 😍 .. btw i will call that shade of purple dusty purple ? 🤔
Colors are hard! 😂 Oh, I hope you can bloom dennisii fast! And yes, praetorii and mednillifolia are definitely a must for me. Hopefully they will be added to my collection soon.
In AZ we have the Salt River you can go tubing on. And you bring your alcoholic beverages in coolers and tie them to your tube. We seem to have one or two deaths a year from someone falling over the tube or fall in the water or passing out and drowning. 🤦🏼♀️
Oh wow, I’ve been to Vang Vieng. I was there during that exact timeframe & saw lots of drunk tubing take place. It was clearly very inadvisable. It’s an INTERESTING place!!!
Lucky you! I hope I can go one day too!
OK so for $4000 Australian dollars I have a couple of things. I got my first car for $4000 in 2004, I got 4 weeks trip in Japan for $4000 (this was in 2013), I got laser eye surgery in Japan for $4000 as well (total for trip $8000) LOL future $4000 spend I can get my first dog and get all its shots and food and cool bed and toys for it. So much more worth it. Dog, or car, or trip, or eye surgery to not need glasses anymore.
All of those are definitely a way better way to spend the money. Get the dog, get the dog 😂 Can't propagate them, but hey, endless joy. My friend has the sweetest Australian shepherd dog. I love her to death. 🥺
@@BasiePlants Oh yes that's the plan. Australian shepherds are so smart and beautiful. their dog must be so gorgeous. So excited for a dog it's been 7 years since my last dog. I'm looking for an Australian silky terrier or a Cavoodel as my top choice. So much love and puppy hugs. Oh, I'm sad now I need to buy a plant to fill the puppy-sized hole in my soul. LOL
Those jodies silver prices are insane!! I've seen 2 sell. No way I could buy regular compacta new every day and spray paint it for that price
Hahaha I thought of this! They spray paint succulents all the time, I am surprised we are not seeing spray painted hoyas 😂
@@BasiePlants I've seen "albo" monstera with paint and once white tape so why not
@@thefibercircus6313 well, that takes "unstable variegation" to a whole new level 😂
Tubing is popular in the US but most people set up an extra tube for the alcohol to have it with them. I don’t hear of a lot of deaths but maybe our rivers are more calm
Or maybe they don't go to 13 bars and get drunk in each one and then continue? 😂
@@BasiePlants what’s not to like about gently floating down a river with scenic nature scrolling by, sunglasses on, warm sun, fresh cool water below, and a cooler full of ice cold beer? Maybe not always bars but tubers tend to stop on small landings along the way for drinking/smoke breaks before continuing on their merry drinking way along the river. Sometimes have to make sure to lift your butt when there’s shallow rocks if you can’t dodge them since they can be sharp and can sink tubes, scrape butts, and cut your legs up if you aren’t careful, but otherwise it’s good times 😂😎
I definitely wouldn't be buying a hoya for $4000. Love the Hoya medinillifolia and Hoya praetorii the most.
You look amazing. You've lost a lot of weight. The video is great!
I've never had that much money to buy anything....my imagination won't even let me think of anything lmaoo
Lol I feel you 😂 What does $4000 even look like? 😂🥲
I want Denissii. I knew about her and have been searching.
carrii’s flowers remind me of little starfish for some reason ☺️
Right?! It is so cute 🥺
I certainly would not enable the possibility of plants being smuggled or being endangered because of our crazy demand for them. It is insane. If I had $4000 laying around I would not buy a plant with it.....I would help my daughter pay off her school bill or donate it to a worthy cause.
🖤 I’m melting 😂👈
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In which country do you live?
What would I buy for 4K? A car!
So when are we driving to Sweden? 🚙
As soon as I free up some shelves 🤣 I ain't coming back empty handed... or coming back 😳
With 4K I would buy basically 80 Hoyas a huge bundle from someone 😂 and some grow lights and a few ikea cabinets
I have too many kids to buy a $4,000 Hoya - that kind of money would go towards braces.
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First i time i watched you. You seem to be a bit more knowledge and that might be a bit interesting. However i seal in $ so i'll have to figure our ehat a euro is
92 degrees F in NY.
I would buy a lot of plants for $4000 not just one.
Especially Hoya