Is Jesus Christ Divine? Out of Context (Part 11) - Omar Suleiman
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- An engaging conversation between a Christian Pastor and a Muslim Imam, "Out of Context" is a 14 part Interview series answers pressing questions about Islam and gives valuable insight into the spirit of the faith.
In Part 11 of the interview, Shaykh Omar takes questions from the audience. The best way to alter the public perception of Muslim women in the West, says Sheikh Omar Suleiman, is for them to continue to be out there and for thriving, successful Muslim women to engage fully in their communities. Regarding the debate over the divinity of Jesus, a study of early Christianity will reveal that it was far from monolithic. As Muslims, we hold Christ in high esteem, we view him as one of God's greatest messengers who came to confirm the law of Moses, we even believe that he is the Messiah, but we do not believe that he is God or the son of God. Finally, regarding the virgins awaiting the faithful in heaven, the number 72 is merely metaphorical to denote multitude. In the context of the revelation of the Quran, the notion of having multiple spouses in heaven is related to the idea that heaven is what you want it to be. At the time it was revealed, the whole world was largely polygamous, so having many spouses was very desirable.
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Just thinking how blessed we are to have such men representing Islam in a true sense. #NoumanAliKhan, #OmarSulaiman
I know. Alhamdulillah we are very lucky. And the two scholars you have mentioned are my favourite. And Mufti Menk.
Sara Ahmed and no come tsunami
Exactly.
Omar could have really went in and destroyed them in a debate like Zakir Naik , but he chose the peaceful approach and the more polite method of giving Dawah. There’s a lot that he could have said, but I can tell he was holding back. May Allah grant him the highest award
why would he act like in a debate
It’s not a debate. It’s an enlightening conversation to change things they take out of context
Man...from those awesome first two questions to the 72 virgins question... Glad she was asking Sh. Suleiman and not google.
It's necessary in these times though. Al hamdu lillah.
Really appreciate the pastor as a good mediator in this discussion. As a muslim, I also learned a lot of things from this series that I never really learned more in depth, especially the historical part. Growing up, being religious is mostly being able to recite the surahs, but not really understanding the context. Studying the history of the Prophets and the texts/Quran goes hand in hand. After I moved abroad and had people asking questions about my religion, then I realized how little I knew about it. Great explanation and grace when answering those difficult questions.
Jazzakallah Shaykh Omar and Ustadh Nouman Ali for their efforts in educating people about Islam through this channel!
Man I love the respect between them having a real and intelligent conversation, and those questions were tough, but it was not answered through google, but rather through sheikh Omar, and Pastor Mike. Alhamdulillah it is so nice to have a real conversation rather than another you tube comment war which resolves near nothing.
I am pretty sure there is someone who will try to slander this comment or say something derogatory, but that is ok, these conversations naturally happen, it's just that youtube takes away any self consequences since anyone can be hidden and not actually have to talk face to face.
sometimes even the real conversations are get heated, however it can be controlled with respect to both the persons arguing.
May Allah bless Sheikh omar, Pastor Mike, and all the people who participated in this video.
Asalamualikum
You answered those questions with such grace. MashaAllah!
Exactly Alhamdulilaah
I'm impressed by the pastor for being open minded. Usually in gatherings like this the levels go down and people start getting passive aggressive and offensive. May Allah guide the genuine.
Why is there always some desperate People from other faiths,cursing Islam, in almost every Islamic Video?
The truth has been distinguished between falsehood. Have an open heart, and listen to what your heart and soul tells you. Do not be afraid to accept the truth when it reveals it dear Brothers and Sisters. Because at the end of the day, each and every one of us, is going to be Accountable to God for our own actions and deeds. None shall bear the burden of another and none can similarly, steal the rewards of another.
Salam.
May Peace Be With You All.
Steve Beck not all non-muslims are bad most of my friends are non-muslims
I continue doing Dua to Allah to preserve beloved Shaikh Sulaiman to promote further via these amazing episodes beauty of our GREAT RELIGION - ISLAM! Ameen!
Ameen !
Masha Allah , good to see pastor mike baugman supporting on how to change the ideology of Muslim women in others' minds.:)
This was the toughest episode yet! Excellent job Shaykh.
I seriously love you imam omar you are a role model
i get soo excited when i get the notification that a video from this series got uploaded😄😄
Lol. Same
Same!!
Nikita seems very genuinely seeking the truth and she is not arrogant. May Allah guide her.
Some of the toughest questions, well asked and great answers by *Omar Sulaiman*, jazak-Allah.
God bless this Imam! And also this Pastor, huge big respect!
Mashallah....this is the kind thing ustaz Nouman ali khan means when he says Muslims are people who challenge the society with thought provoking questions or answer with so much wisdom and brilliance..you can see how the lady, the interviewer and most of the audience got riddled by ustaz omar well crafted responses..
thanks ustaz suleiman for your well thought out answers and the entire bayyinah tv crew for conducting this interview
Most amazing answers from Shaykh Omar with a smiling face mashAllah.
Tough one.. Great Job Shaykh
InshaAllah, I am going to start similar series titled: "Misconception" where I will be getting answer for the most asked questions like the marriage of mother of believer, 72 wives in Islam etc lol serious thou!. make dua that happen in short time inshaAllah.
Rahmatullah Nowruz Have you done this series, yet?
Excellent questions and answers. what an intelligent debate and concluding remarks!
may Allah keep you blessed imam omar Suleiman :)
May Allah give her Hidaya. She realized that she could be believing in something, which is in complete disobedience to Jesus (pbuh) all her life. Jesus never said worship me. In fact inshaAllah (God Willing) he will fight against people who call him son of God.
Ameen
Steve Beck Ameen.
As for Jay Shawn, bro Is there really any need for you to bash? Have an Open Heart and Use the Intellect that God ,The Exalted us with, and InSha Allah, If God wills, u will be able to differentiate between the truth and falsehood.
#Peace
jay shawn
And the servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk upon the earth easily, and when the ignorant address them [harshly], they say [words of] peace,
[25:64]
So Peace Bro. And I don't know why you have so much hate towards Islam but just know that you will be accountable to God, The Exalted for your deeds and I will be for mine.
Steve Beck yea she was ready to cry
jay shawn what are you even talking about dude?
Ma Shaa Allah
What a great/beautiful video. Jazak Allah Bayyinah (meaning: The Clear Evidence) Institute.
PS: Brother Omer is very handsome MaShaAllah!
Insightful answers to difficult questions!
Beautiful
these is amazing may Allah bless you all
Imam Omar .... alhamdulillah 👍
Those were tough questions but Shaykh, may Allah preserve you because you answered them with such calm and grace Subhan Allah!
Christian brother is awesome
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please! I ask my Muslims brother and sister! Born in Muslim family is privilege however Mohammed saw! Ummah is way of life not a culture. The people who joined or about to be joine this beautiful way of life lookup to you. so pleas embodiment the sunna of Mohammed saw! I love you all the sake of Allah swt!
sometimes it's difficult.
You're right. It is easy for those, whom Allah swt make easy for. Allah will make easy for us if we're true and sincere. He sees our action and hidden intention and Allah knows best.
allhumdulilah 😇
Amazing
yes amazing !
What is the name of the background instrumental at the end ?
*O ALLAH make us "DAE" *(GIVING DAWAH)
nice
Muslim should listen this vedio.we need much knowledge about how to dakwah in good and peace way...
i think the pastor did a better job of answering the question on changing the public's opinion of muslim women, imam suleiman could deff have done better but maybe he didn't understand the question.
my favourite part was when the pastor said "we're not the same religion, but we might still be chasing the same God"
Please read the bible, Yahweh and allah are not the same god. Christians who claim that didnt read the Quran and muslims who claim that didnt read the bible. If you read the bible you will notice that jesus claimed to be god very often.(i did not count it but more than 100 times) He says for example he is the son of man, which means he is divine because the torah of the jews says that the son of man is a divine person. (Mark 10:45 Daniel 7:9 ff) Or he says that he is greater than the temple, although only god is greater than the temple. Matthew (12:6)
@@robertelms6105 It was not Isa Who said that but Paul
@@hempie3neutraal48 the Messiah aka son of man is a divine figure according to the torah. So the torah proves that the Messiah is god. You will probably claim that the old Testament is corrupted, however the burden of proof is on you that New testament AND the torah are corrupted. Why? Because there are manuscripts which we can use to reconstruct the bible. By the way the gospel according to Matthew Mark Lukas and John were not written by Paul.
@@robertelms6105 Listen its very simple ..Isa never said im God..not in the New or old testament clear
@@hempie3neutraal48 thats a lie
Romans 1 : 3 ".......... regarding His Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David...."
If you want to know the reality, always go back to the source it came from. And think.
I just don't understand what does some one mean when he says God has a male child. Take at least a few minutes to think about that statement
I don't understand, would a female child be any different?
The whole concept of God having a "son" or any lineage doesn't make sense when I think about it. Because its not a matter of the unseen, people claim that this child walked on earth so they need to explain what exactly does a son = male child of God mean?
So the son of God is a creation of God, who is also God and in some way you are not worshipping two Gods. Right?
These are the words of John the last Gospel written. Who is "John" no one knows. Infact no one knows the identity of anyone who wrote the synoptic gospels. If this was any other book which you didn't grow up with or had a lot of followers which none of its writers never met the main character and only one writer's identity is known, could you seriously follow it?
Yes, it is credible in fact people have chains of narrations from the Prophet himself called Ijazat and it was always in the hands of the people. If you would only read about Islam sincerely brother.
So could God have come down as a woman? Can God have daughters and cousins? Did God at a certain period have a Grandma? Simple questions! Just be sincere.
Last part and please answer this. How could you convince a Hindu that God didn't come down as Vishnu and instead came as Jesus?
Peace Bro
***** you say you do not worship the flesh, in that case the Word of God survived and only the flesh was harmed, the flesh wasn't the Son of God because you do not worship it, so there was never a sacrifice for you Salvation. Either you worship the flesh or there was no sacrifice, choose one. One winds you up a pagan, the other takes away your forgiveness.
The Qur'an 5.51 says "O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies; some of them are allies of one another. Whoever of you allies himself with them is one of them. Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people."
How do you expect peace from Muslims? Expect response from Muslim Scholars.
You are quoting out of context and not including the verses that relate to those verses. He clearly mentioned in other videos how wars were fought and there was turmoil between different tribes and groups of people from the 3 religions of the book. Yes there were wars fought and God commands in self defense for Muslims to protect their family and beliefs but ultimately strive for peace. So clearly whatever wars were fought between the people the Muslims were the ones striving for peace and have no hatred towards any of the people of the book.
Many times I believe that Imam Omar doesn't actually answer the question, but just gives his own answers and goes off on his own general comments rather than answering the question specifically.
Nikita you are very beautiful. Your skin is clean and shiny and I love your outfit particularly the headscarf. I wear headscarf and I will copy the way you did yours. You are very elegant.
only way to change public opinion about it would be to make women free to choose it. not threatened by severe consequences for not doing it. that's slavery and oppression no matter how 'successful' the women appear to be.
I think its not ambiguous at allll.about who jesus worships n who he calls people to worship. What did he teach 1st? The first first first thing he went around Nazareth teaching agnostic n polyhiest kids what did he teach? Anyone??... exactly! ' the lords prayer' simple short direct... praying to god the father in the heaven.not hjesus.In aramaic. Any ambiguity?? Where? Where is the e ambiguity in the Lord's prayer. Study aramaic like its a top song on spotify n then u will see. There is no ambiguity. I could be wrong but hey. Chritstians know aramaic better n god said all people of the book or of 1200 prophets or people who have a good heart goes to heaven so i guess if u reaalllly dont know its fine but shouldnt u at least seek aramaic or at least go to malula? Theres an entire village that speak aramaic.try that. Or anything.' Owh for god's sake '🙈😁😋
"Before Abraham was I Am"
I Am=God or I Am=YHWH/Yahweh
=>"Before Abraham was God/YHWH"
Its a statement from Jesus not claiming to be God
And you could say each one of us was before Abraham in the knowledge of God.
He gets out of his area of knowledge here talking about early Christianity and misrepresents the historical events surrounding the identity of Jesus and the acceptance of the Gospel accounts of Jesus life.
Jesus is not the "Son of God" like the other prophets. He said that he was the "monogenes" Son of God (Greek meaning that he was completely unique and higher than anyone else referred to using the phrase "son of God").
It is not debatable whether Jesus said these things concerning his divine authority on a historical level. It is simply the historical fact that the earliest sources all quote Jesus as having said such things. If you'd like to say that it's "debatable" then I suppose ALL of history is debatable and we shouldn't claim factual knowledge about ANYTHING which precedes our lifetimes...including Islam.
It's totally debatable on a historical level, loads of historians and most if not all of critical historians deny that Jesus declared himself to be the son of God.
The historicity of the gospels and other books in the Bible gets criticized all the time. Just because those sources are early does not mean they are true, or that the historicity of those texts does not withstand scrutiny.
Well I mean I can tell this is going to be pretty pointless to debate about because anyone can just say that something is doubtful and there you go...the New Testament accounts are early and widespread and have multiple lines of attestation. They are the only accounts of Jesus' life which pass all tests on this matter. I don't really know anyone credible who says Jesus didn't claim to be the Son of God..I mean I've heard people denying Jesus even existed at all and because they have PhDs people are running around acting like it's a real doubt. The evidence is as solid as it could ever really be or realistically be expected to be. If anyone wants to deny it then that's fine I guess but it's not sensible in the least and the people who do hold such positions are always either wrong about the evidence they are presenting (as the guy in the video) or they present it in dark and obscure frightfulness like we just can't really know anything. It's pretty silly.
Paul corrupted Jesus’ teachings. Constantine and others following him did the same. Little of of Jesus’ message has survived in the current Bible. Even biblical scholars like Bart Ehrman claim many of the stories in the Bible are later added stories.
@@keepitreelcatfishing5883
These are just baseless assertions which are repeated over and over again by people who usually don't ever engage with the historical documentation. Bart Ehrman wouldn't even agree with you about most of it but because he's not a Christian and has notoriety you seem to feel comfortable assuming some kind of security in throwing his name out. He would torch you on most of this stuff. This entire made-up story about how Paul somehow came along and overturned the "true" teachings of Jesus and all of his early followers while not even 1 of the 12 apostles spoke against him is completely imagined. The truth is that if you wanted to leave out Paul's writings we would still see his teachings about Jesus. Peter was already preaching the gospel as Christians understand it in Acts chapter 2 which is before Paul has even converted. James, Peter, and Paul are all in agreement about true Christian practice in Acts 15. They do not condemn Paul for his gospel teaching. This revisionist history is an empty cloud dependent on the ignorance of those poor Muslims and unstudied people who hear it from confident deniers. Trying to claim Constantine somehow corrupted Christianity is even more laughable. He wasn't even the Emperor until 300 years after Jesus. By that time it would have been impossible to uproot or change the teachings of the church. He also knew almost nothing about theology. His only contribution to anything was to tell the Christian bishops to convene and settle their arguments. Anyone can theorize literally anything about history. That's what's so conventient about it. I can say I think unicorns came and took the true Gospel writings away and some guys on heroin rewrote the whole thing and lied. But without a shred of historical reason to believe it other than I just think so there is no reason to take it seriously.
we know the gospel in the 4 century? my God the pastor has zero knowledge in biblical history.
And i guess you know more about the Gospel then he does? 😑
Bullshit!!