125 2 STROKE VS. 250 4 STROKE
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- čas přidán 3. 09. 2018
- Gun motocross riders, Jacob Simpson (2019 KTM 125SX) and Max Singleton (2019 Kawasaki KX250F) pit 125cc two stroke against 250cc four stroke (2 stroke vs. 4 stroke). Comment which one you think won!
Riders:
Jacob Simpson - 2019 KTM 125SX
Max Singleton - 2019 Kawasaki KX250F
Music: Frank Fields - Okay
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Comment which one you think won!
I think 250 won
4 stroke
the 450f
good video companion to whom I leave my like and subscription
4 stroke
A real test would be to just get the same rider to do 3 laps on each and compare the best lap times
Yeah the 250 rider was better the 125 guy wouldnt hit the big jump or anything
Ikr
Hey it was at least better then the guys who compared 125 2t against 450 4t
@@gabriel.m_hunt true
Riding 125 2t and 250 4t, you would have to have someone that rides the bike's same amount of track time. A 125 basically you ride it wide open the whole time, through corner's because you don't have the braking or the torque of the 250 4t.
Look at Haiden Deegan, he rode a 125 for a long time, before getting on a 250, so he's still holding the 250 on the power, using his throttle to slow, but not his brake. Watch him sweep into corners using his body to make quick adjustments but not letting off the throttle.
The big deal is the new 250 4t's are completely different than those of 18 year's ago. No one but KTM, and Yamaha even make 125 2t's and they haven't put much work into them.
Guys let’s put our differences aside and be glad we don’t ride four wheelers
(2 years later and I still fully stand behind my statement)
What's a 4 wheeler?
Mida Multitool something I’m glad I don’t ride
You what the hardest part about owning a quad?
Telling your Dad you are gay.
Shady Jake 😂😂😂👌🏻😆😆😆
Mida Multitool an atv
I like that deep sound of the 4 stroke. However the 2 stroke sound is classic.
4stroke is older then 2 stroke? So whats more classic?
@@freakzout1329 You sure about that? 2 stroke seems less complicated which one would assume 2 stroke was first but I haven't done the research. I say 2 stroke is classic because it always sounds the same. 4 stroke engine sounds vary a lot more. That dirt bike sound waaa!! waaa!! is imitated by even children.
@@Micscience mhh yeah both engine types 2 and 4 stroke are from around 1860
Ya four stroke way better
Yup sound good I like both it’s all on the rider
I like the nostalgia of a 2 stroke and the simplicity but usually the 4 strokes come out on top. Still both amazing and powerful bikes.
Wow, a normal person
Kacper Grzybowski yeah bro 😂😂4 strokes are state of the art machines
@@bigbeer5708 The 2019 KTM 250EXC is a modern bike that would leave any 450 four stroke for dead.
Let's see how a 125 4 stroke would go against a 125 2 stroke into only in motocross but road racing the last of the 125 gp bikes developed around 58 bhp and a moto 3 250 with all the extra years of development puts out around 56 bhp a moto 3 4 stroke with just 125cc would probably develop around 35bhp and a new 2 stroke with the latest developments about 63 bhp .if we were able to get a 125 4 stroke motocrosser and run it against a 250 2 stroke how do reckon that would pan out.
@@b1akjak buddy just give up
The only thing that matters is the rider, ive seen a guy on a 125 smoke a guy on a 450
Dr.Phill 2qr2ctu23
JaBeFr03 OK in that case put that guy that’s on the the 125 on the 450 and no125 on earth could even come close see what I’m saying?You say you’ve seen it but I don’t believe you too big of a difference and engine size that’s like saying a dirtbike could be a CBR 1000 on a dragstrip bullshit your just a talking shit you ain’t seen nothing pussy
Yeah if you put my little brother on a 450 and me on the 125 I could beat him to what you’re saying makes no sense it doesn’t have anything to do with the rider it’s the bikeObviously ifYou get somebody who doesn’t know how to ride they’ll get beat by anything
@@thanosbustedinyourmum a 450 will smoke a 125 with efficiency and low end torque
Yeah my dad smoked dudes on the asphalt track on his 750 triumph bone vile and they were on 1000 cc bikes
I thought the 3 stroke won..
NO 3 stroke
He joking
@S0upbone Feltersnatch you're *
@@cassandrafoehr8834 😂
Do you even know what you're talking about there is no such thing as a three stroke.
i feel like the 250 rider was more confident in himself than the 125 rider which makes the whole race leaning towards the 250 rider
yeah the 2 stroke light front end
2T for ever
YEES I ALSPO LKIKE GOING WHEELYS FOR SRTOKE IS SO SLOW WHATTHEFUUUUUUUK
Yes 2t is best
Until it blows up with 15 hours
until your 10000$ lawn mower stop working after 10 days
Only 4t.
The rider on the 250 is alittle better if you put him on the 125 he would be even faster, the other guy didn't shift the 125 enough to clear them big jumps or rail the turns hard
Kody George Finally somebody with logic
Dont see you out there though lmao
@@liqqzyt5428 i could do it i race
Liqqz YT Pretty sure that’s not the point.
The 250cc- 4 stroke is better and faster get it right
Nothing beats 2 stroke 👍
The sound , the smells .. nothing beats.. the power.. the lightness 👍👍
you get sick of rebuilding the things , every three outings ! 😀
@@joekelly9369 i don't know what you 're saying men
Might i add that 2-strokes are actually banned in most places because of the exhaust and noise. Plus the cops love pulling them over because regardless if the bikes got a trail permit its still a noise violation ticket
Great video. No chatter, no annoying and pointless music, just well shot video of the bikes. I'd give the race to the 250, but not by much.
I literally hate it when people make fun of my bike because it’s a 4 stroke, like ok I’m sorry I want fuel efficiency and don’t need a crap load of torque. But they just say “ugh u baby get a real bike!” And then they loop out and run out of gas.
4 stroke faster show them this video
@@dominiccimarolli8970 but they still have half the ccs wanna put the same size engine against each other it’s no challenge
You ride a 125cc 4t right? Because otherwise 4 strokes Have more torque. A 2504t is faster and has more torque than a 125t2
@@darnellterrance6966 I got a crf 150r
@@dominiccimarolli8970 lol its also double the size
Depends on the rider... Obviously the 2 stroke rider has bigger balls tho...
Fire Men On Bikes FMOB ehh, maybe when your in the power band but the 250 has balls
How would you know the size of his balls? Have you felt them?
OUTLAWjack C can't you tell from the video? He can't sit down
Tô hf🐩🐯🐯🐕🐯🐕🐕🐩🐕🐒🐆🐯🐅🐆🐶🐴🐴🐯
Fire Men On Bikes FMOB but he took that L
I had a KTM 125 for years, I loved that thing, and love the sound of them most. I’d go for a 4 stroke today just because I’ve never owned one (outside of an old 100 Honda which was a low-set beginner’s style of bike for trails). But can’t beat the sound of a 2-smoke.
Would have like to see them swap bikes.. always think about this
Clearly the 250 won. But the performance of that 2 stroke engine was fab. Well, here in India we all are fans of two strokes. It all started when jawa launched its yezdi roadking. It was a fabulous time. Then came Yamaha with its rx100, rx135 and finally the rd350.
Those were the good times.
im a 4 stroke guy but i greatly agree
Looks like 4t puts power down better. Rider on 4t better slightly. I'll take 2t all day. Love the sound and throttle response. Love my kx100
"Alright guys, go out there and have a fairly even race so people on the internet can argue over which was better"
:P
Finally A real comparison! Been searching for these and hardly find them
Fuck off
It's all about the rider ... I never have owned a 4stroke . Still to this day .. only bike I ride YZ250 smoker .. best all around bike .. Bbbbrrrrraaaappp.
I'd like to see u race me to another country without you needing a top end rebuild :) 4 stroke life.
Rizor SwitchPlayz but 2 strokes aren’t unreliable if properly maintained, in fact I had a 50cc 2t that I put 5000 miles on in 6 months with no rebuild , though 4t are more reliable
@@Webcamboat see if you're a natural 4 stroke rider like me, you have trouble maintaining a 2 stroke. And also I don't know how to properly use the throttle on 2 strokes so I just stay with my 4 stroke. plus I can go to a gas station and fill up
Scott Lindsay 2 stroke are much harder to drive so you are better if you can drive fast on a 2 stroke your gay
The real difference between a 2 stroke and 4 stroke is that they just have power in different places. One isn’t “harder to ride” than the other. It’s more of a question where do you want the majority of your power through the rpm bandwidth or “power band”. Do you want the brunt of it in the Low to midrange? Or mid to high? That’s the difference between riding them. Neither are harder to ride than the other. That’s the Most novice shit I ever heard lol 😂
It's beyond me why anyone would go out and buy a bike that's needs and engine twice as big with 6 gazillion more moving parts to be competitive...
Fire Men On Bikes FMOB rits beyond me why anyone would buy a buy that consumes twice the amount of fuel and pistons
@@lobotomyy haha because they are lighter and put out so much HP per litre and cost half as much in maintenance throughout their
life.
Power delivery is way better on new 4 strokes your 2 stroke is shit and just spins its wheels and doesn't go anywhere
Fire Men On Bikes FMOB their not even making 2 strokes for racing anymore basically because their shit.
Damon Vantwist you obviously have never ridden a two stroke
Like other people already mentioned, the rider seems to be much more deciding in this particular comparison. I don't think there's a lot of difference between these bikes in terms of performance. There were multiple moments where both the 125SX and KX250F were able to pull away from each other significantly. I myself like two strokes more because of the sound, simplicity and power delivery, but let's not forget why pretty much all modern ICEs in any type of vehicle are four strokes.
theres not , just that nagging 2 stroke racing towards a top end rebuild feeling , thats how i see a 2 stroke these days
Enjoyed the video. Very relaxing. Gonna watch it a couple more times.
They both did a bit of sand bagging a couple times so they'd stay close (it looks like it anyways). I grew up racing 2 stroke 125's and 250's in the 80's so I miss those days, but I ride as much (if not as hard, LOL) now and have grown to love modern 4 strokes too. I've no opinion on "which won", I was just happy to get to enjoy watching them both running 😁✌
I love both!😍😍
Nice video!
SuCroN you can’t live both or your bisexual
The 1 stroke clearly won
There's no such thing as a
GOT EM!
Damn good race! Love that track too! Can't go wrong with either bike.. but theres something about that 2 stroke sound ❤️
4 stroke 250 but the driver matters too
2 Stroke all the way
Troy Steadman I breather 2 stroke just sounds so much nicer
Voice from 2 stroke is nice broh i like it
Nah
@@jadengallo7787 yah
@@will_p1232 it sounds like mosqito
The 2 stroke could easily go faster. The 250 has way more power and can overcome more obstacles. So it honestly depends on a lot of things.
My kx125 has 41.5HP while a kx250F has only 39.6HP, so no, actually 125 2 strokes have more power than 250 4 strokes
Zuimmy that’s bullshit 😂
I doubt your 125cc has 41HP LOL
@@Cplink420 The 2020 TC125 has 40hp and some of them modded have 42hp.
@@Bigtymer781 It's 2020 TC not 1990 kx125
I like two strokes better for many reasons. One big reason is the cost to rebuild is cheaper and easier.
Good thing. You get to rebuild em much more often...
@@ShyaMiss I had 5 years and hundeds if not a thousand trail miles on the top end in my yz 125. I just replaced the piston and it still had no black under the ring. So if you treat a 2 stroke right the pistons last quite awhile.
@@jrod264winmag that's cool, yet with the same treatment, a 4 stroke goes even longer. Just by nature of how they operate. Personally, I love both types of engine. For maximum output, a 2 stroke is always going to be a monster. From a longevity standpoint, the 4 stroke will always hold the advantage.
@@ShyaMiss I trail ride now that I'm beyond my youth, there are roughly 10 guys that I regularly ride with. A few of them tried going the 4 stroke route. Sure the power is smooth and all, he'll I even own a few right now. But everyone went back to 2 strokes trail bikes. They're just better trail bikes.
@@jrod264winmag thing is... You ride trails lmao try and ride a track and your bikes will start lasting 20 hours before a rebuild
They both sound fantastic and very nice video perfectly put togheter make more of these video's if yuo can
I feel like the 4 stroke obviously won, but it just shows that if a 125 can keep up with a 250 2 strokes are the faster bike (sounds cooler too!)
Two stroke is like a stinging bee. Yeaaah!!
more like a weed wacker or a screaming karen.
Thanks for posting.
Seems to me the four stroke was noticeably stronger at low and high speeds.The 2 stroke was awesome and you can't beat the screaming engine sound.I don't like it but the 4 over the 2 stroke.It took years to admit that.lol
NICE RIDING GUYS!!👍👍👍
I go 125 because for me it feels much lighter and easier to control so despite the power of the 250 I still feel I can ride my 125 faster than I can a 250f
2 stroke love there sound all the way like an angry bee hive
My CR500 won.
xd
Ez claps
9
My gsxr won
@@user-gh5jc9tx5r oh really. Off-road huh.
I wanna see lap times from both riders on both bikes!!
best vid ever wish I had a kx dirt bike
are they about the same in power just ones a 4 and the others a 2?
I'd rather sound like a pissed off bee then a giant wet fart.
GREAT OUTDOORS shut up idiot. They sound more like a fuckin thunderstorm than a fart
Jack Mclain nope , they sound like a fart
lol thunderstorm
GREAT OUTDOORS like what your CZcams channel is
@@fentanylenjoyer9095 go fuck yourself I upload random shit i make way more money welding then I do making videos
Just riding a bike is great. I like 2 strokes, and own a 2108 Husky TC250 2 stroke. It has everything the Yamaha doesn't. Counter balanced engine, Brembo brakes, Hydraulic clutch with break away lever. How about a 2 stage digital adjustable ignition that can be changed on the fly. How about the best air forks on the market. Oh, yeah, the carbon fiber sub frame.
Yamaha's are great, but the husky's have 115 years of experience, and more than 80 world championships backing them up. You do get what you pay for. Ride what you have. Don't hate on anyone. Enjoy the sport. Come together to keep it strong. We all have something in common.
4 strokes sound so nice and deep. But I do think the performance of 2 strokes are better. And the cr125 2 stroke still sounds clean
That was a great race honestly very competitive not like the usual same guy at front the whole way
I'm a 2 stroke guy all the way so I vote 125
I thought the 250 rider was better than the 125 rider but the 125 bike is better
Same bro
I hate the thing that u have to mix oil petrol
Nothing beats the scream of a 2 stroke...NOTHING
NOOOO
Magnificent!
I’ve been trying to decide which one is best for people trying to get in to dirt biking 125cc 2stroke or the 250cc 4 stroke can at least one of you guys tell me what’s best?
That was legitness 👍
Callum Osborne yeah it was
Could of come down to the rider, I was hoping they were gonna switch bikes to see if there was any difference in the out come, was a pretty tight race all round but the four stroke seemed to have the upper hand🏁
I like character of 4 stroke, but ... 2 stroke is like music for me. It is simple amazing!
Im 14 i dont know if i should buy a 125'2 stroke or a 250 4stroke i now that 2 strokes can be powerfull...any tips on what i should get
2 stroke! any day!
Angus Johnston Yeet
Nothing beats a 2 stroke! Love the power band and the smell of course !
I’ve been riding 2 stroke and 4 stroke and i feel more safe on the 4 stroke beqause the 2 strokes insane powerband. But 2 stroke still the best tho. (in my opinion)
hey ash i want to get a 125 dirt bike under $2500 do you have any recommendations
I was hoping they'd switch bikes half way through and do it again to see what balances out.
I want to buy a cheap 125 to work on and restore. Got thumb casted yesterday no more riding for me for a while 😥😔😫
Honestl, i ride a 4 stroke buth i got plenty of time and money... 2 strokes on the other hand are a lot easier to fix and maintain... I suggest looking into old 2 strokes and working om those
Just for fun, not to race, which is better and easier and cheaper to maintain, and funner to ride ? I haven't had a bike in years and I don't know?
how did u guys make that track?
It looks like the 250 could pull away whenever he wanted plus he was sending it more. The ktm had to take better lines to make a pass, but then lost it once the kawi decided to turn on the gas. So I say 250 4 stroke even though the ktm 125 sounded waaaaay better. 😍
Only if it was a 150
@@theaube9834 - maybe that's next video?
@@Marvelfunfaqs never know
The Aubé if they brought out the 250SXF KTM instead of that slow KX250F even a 150SX doesn’t have a prayer. I’ve seen 2018 250SXF vs newer 250SX and it was so close it wasn’t even funny (equal riders and all).
4 stroke, especially on a track like that with alot of elevation change. The 4 stroke pulls hills better, way more bottom and mid range
Gotta go with the kawi 250 just had more power setting there waiting outa the corners came out way faster and the 125 was keeping up just was working way to hard to stay in front. Gotta say good race but 250 was the clear winner. Coming from a Two joker rider gotta say the 4 stroke took it
Isaiah Stanley as a 4 stroke rider I gotta say that it’s gonna be really hard for a two smoker to say that 😂😂
I don’t who won, but it damn sure looked fun. I would ride either one!!! And I have a YZ250F.
It's ALWAYS the rider! Case in point: Many hears ago I did a desert ride wth a Honda CR 125cc and was racing a 250 Honda CR and a 400cc Maico. I had never ridden with these two guys and had no reference to their skills, so, I decided to ride as hard as I could since they had "bigger" bikes.
I pulled out front of them and picked short, swithcy lines that their heavier bikes might have a little trouble with. I had pulled ahead of the 250 by about 500 yards. I stopped to chat with the 250 rider, but the 400 rider was nowhere to be seen.
We got worried and back-tracked all the way back to camp where we found the 400 rider sitting in a chair opening up a beer. He didn't say shit!
125 2 stroke sounds like a annoying mosquito. Give me all the hate you got. I'm born ready.
ok here i go
the mosquito will suck your blood and sting u untill it gets clapped
ha gotem
The 250 hit puberty
125 is a mosquito on steroids
Damon lol tg
I totally agree they sound like shit
2 strokes will dust you
Kx 250
Nothing beats the sound of a 2-stroke
Imagine if that was a 250 2stroke. I love that noise
Any of the new 4 stroke 250s will smoke the 125s with the right riders
Кавасаки 😍
I'm a big fan of both, different riding for different bikes just choose what you feel like doing and take the bike made for that
I'm thinking of buying a bike and my dads gonna teach me how to ride them but I dont know what to buy a 4 stroke or a 2 stroke? And is there a reason why I would wanna buy that one over the other
Freddie Gaming243 if your a beginner get a 4 stroke. Get a 2 stroke when you get better
@@dustinl2640 ok thank you I've never got one or even rode one but that's what my dad will help me with he will use a 2 stroke most likely cause he has been using them ever since he was a child
1:22 seems she's a girl. Amazing skills
Ashish Tripathi lmao it’s 10000% a guy
*_Yeah that that is totally a girl. Definitely doesn't have a straight waist_*
what you thought was a bra is most likely a shoulder support strap. Pretty common in motorcross, common injury etc
Green four stroke was ahead for the most of the time 4 stroke win all the way and finish first
Should I get a 125 or 250f after 85’s?
I know that 125 cc 250 cc is the size of The motor but has it somthing with The speed or is it just The size of th motor
Like if u prefer two strokes!! =)
Lmao the two stroke rider was scared to hit the jumps, have them switch bikes it would be much better
You probably don't even ride you just sit in your room and play fortnite all day
@@x.acid.9327 yo what the fuck. A motorcycles biggest drawback is often its rider the mans right. So shut the fuck up and dont be a little dick head
U dont ride a bike u dont know the adrenaline and fear
@@Cronoxus Lol Haha Yeah 😁➡💩
@@Cronoxus Your Jokes are the best
I just came to see what bikes better. 125 or 250. thinking on a new race bike
I liked both bikes, riders were so cool n professional. I dream of having a dirt bike 🙄
The 250 could pull away from the 125 when ever he wanted, all my friends ride 125's and I ride a 250...its the same story with us, if I want to get away from them then its not hard
Andreas it is the other way around for my friends. They all ride KX250Fs or CRF250Rs and I ride a 2006 YZ125. I am yet to be beat when we race. You probably are just a better rider😂
A yz125 explodes with power it’ll get ahead 100%
true bc i ride an rmz250 and i pull away from my yz125 friend easy.
I LIVE AND DIE PRE MIX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In a straight line race the 250f seems to have an advantage, but the 125 is easier to maneuver, even if it is less power, since it is smaller and lighter.
🔥
i miss the 2 stroke era. They sounds like momma scream
New four-stroke 250 are more powerful than 125 2 strokes, and the weight is not much higher. even 150 cc ktm is unable to beat the four stroke. The difference is seen on track and dyno. however, the differences are not so great. The driver's abilities still determine the winner.
weight not so much higher??????? 30 lbs. is A LOT on a race bike. You'll find out someday when you go down on a hill or in the mud and have to pick your bike up, get back on and start it. Oh you don't race....that answers that question.....
@@bultacowally Yes i race.
What horsepower are these bikes making must be around 43hp for the 125cc
@@chrisredfield3240 no. A 2018 KTM 125 sx has 37 horsepower. The Kawasaki has 41 if that's a 2018 model.
@@dean8067 ktm is 87.5kg kawasaki is 104.5kg. Sure 4hp is enough also the ktm makes power at 8,000rpm the kawasaki must be over 13,000rpm to make 41hp. The yzf yamaha 250 4 stroke is only 34hp at 12,000rpm where the 2 stroke 250 yzf was making 47hp at 8,000rpm.
hey guys i am a 13 year old and what do you think i should start out on a 125 or 250 4 stroke
My Favourite bike I've owned was a 1999 CR250 an absolute animal!!!!!! Later years I got into Supermoto, Honda 2004 CRF450 was the weapon of choice for that! Whilst I am not the best of riders (Knocked out doing MX and SM) I loved it all! Tried a KTM, never again!!!! For Dirt 2 stroke, for mixed or dual sport 4 stroke! I guess riding for hours as opposed to sprints - the 4 stroke wins! But that's only my opinion!
250f was clearly faster. 125 had great power and torque in the corners.
whowanger exactly
yeah but the 250 is double the displacement of the 125 and the little 125 makes around the same rear wheel hp
@@juliancaslale3801 dont really see your point. The 4 stroke was faster,it crossed the line first and was clearly faster in the mid to top. Which is expected. 125 looked a hell of fun though... I'm not bagging 2 strokes. I have a 300 2 stroke and love it.
nah man sorry I'm just tryna say that the 250f was faster only bc of displacement and all I'm saying is that two strokes are clearly better they have to race smaller two strokes against bigger four strokes bc two strokes are faster if this vid was 250f vs 2502t the two stroke would destroy the 4t and nice bike man 😀 do u ride it often
@@juliancaslale3801 your a mechanic? So you know how 2 stroke and 4 stroke work...there totally different. There's advantages and disadvantages to both... I love dirt bikes.. when I was a young 2 strokes where the bomb if you wanted to go fast.. if you wanted enduro youd get a xr250 or something...its a complete reverse now... I'll always love 2 strokes but 4 strokes are fucking orsome too
Let's compare cost of upkeep... Thanks. Done.
So kawasaki is cheaper then
@@dean8067 hahaha no
@@zbob2257 Haha yes, research and experience brings you the right information instead of just saying no.
4 stroke cheaper by far especially if you count the fuel savings at the pump
Great video guys!!........ I think the 4 took it!
4 stroke gotem I like the 4 stroke sound going thru the woods awesome 👍😎
2strokes are the kings
4strokes are the queens
Zozo_letsplayz id rather ride a queen than a king,if u catch my drift 😂
Kyle Hughes 😂😂
Kawasaki 450 4 stroke🤙🏻
Nice video good job 👍
Well 2 stoke or 4 stoke engine?Who s better?