Glenn Greenwald on Tucker Carlson, Chelsea Manning, Russia, and Big Tech
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- "The kind of values I've always embraced are heard more on Fox than on CNN and MSNBC, where they're not welcome."
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No living American journalist has a fiercer reputation for independence-and invective-than Glenn Greenwald. The Pulitzer Prize winner helped break the Edward Snowden revelations, was once threatened with jail time by Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, and was part of the team that launched The Intercept in 2014 before resigning six years later, claiming his colleagues were censoring his criticism of the Biden administration.
So what are we to make of the fact that Greenwald, once a contributing writer at Salon who appeared regularly on the left-wing news show Democracy Now!, is now a fixture on Fox News' Tucker Carlson Tonight? How do we explain the fact that Greenwald, known for his progressive critique of American foreign policy, is now welcomed in conservative circles but considered a pariah by many of his former colleagues on the left?
Has Glenn Greenwald changed, or have the rest of us?
Reason's Nick Gillespie caught up with him in Las Vegas, where he was speaking at FreedomFest, an annual gathering of conservatives and libertarians. Greenwald was part of a roster this year that included Sen Rand Paul (R-Ky.), publisher Steve Forbes, former Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, and Project Veritas' James O'Keefe.
We talked about why he has no qualms about appearing on Carlson's show, why so much of the legacy and left-wing press is quick to apologize for state power, how the trans movement shows the limits of identity politics, and whether the state has any business regulating the internet via antitrust actions.
Narrated by Nick Gillespie; edited by Adam Czarnecki and John Osterhoudt; camera by Noor Greene and James Marsh
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Pretending that parlor’s removal was anything less than coordinated removal of opposition on behalf of a political faction is lacking of honesty and character.
The creator of Parker used to work for Amazon, so, being familiar with the AWS libraries, decided to use them. This means that the site could not easily be moved to other hosts - that was a mistake. Rubble built their entire stack from scratch and can operate from anywhere.
@@sylviam6535 makes sense. Good for Rumble but Parlor should have been able to have confidence in an agreement for service with AWS. Payback is a bitch. It will happen.
@@sylviam6535 AWS dominates the tech market. Unless you are building from the ground up, you need to use platforms like AWS. I would financial be stupid not to prior to January 6th. January 6th changed the Calculus for Rumble. Even with that it took Rumble a long time (2 years?) to build from the ground up.
@@vertualvice - Incorrect. Rumble built from the ground up from the beginning. Parler should have done the same in an area like social media where being cancelled in one way or the other is the norm. Then, any Linux server in a data center would have supporter them.
@@pinkoslayer - Joel Kotkin said that in China the authoritarians are in the CCP, but in the West they are in Silicon Valley.
"there was probably a bunch of technical issues with Parler", no, not really. Glenn was pretty spot on.
A bunch of technical issue so they Amazon have to suddenly end the whole contract without actually telling what those that serious technical issues are. Yeah, right...
Nick just parroting the BS from the technocrats.
I agree with Glenn about Parlor, but I disagree with his libertarian view that people should be free to make whatever choices they want as long as they're adults. People's destructive choices don't happen in a vacuum, they will boil over and cause problems the society around them.
Glenn is brilliant. 👏 👏 👏
Yes. Unbelievable BS hand waving from Nick about the most significant restraint of trade in generations. Rockefeller would have loved it for his Standard Oil as it stomped the life out its competitors by cutting off rail access: ‘they had technical problems’.
Nick is now a full on progressive hack hiding in Liibertarian clothing.
Nick Gillespie needs to stop interrupting. He’s not interviewing, he’s arguing, he won’t let Greenwald finish a thought. So frustrating to watch.
Little 🍄 syndrome on full display!
Condesending scumbag. I couldn't finish this and I love Glenn Greenwald.
Debates are good. It makes it more interesting. It’s almost like he was playing devils advocate
@@randyjohnson9808 agreed, for sure. Maybe... maybe scumbag was a little harsh. He just always comes off as conceded and disingenuous. But that's just my opinion.
That said, if he was going to play devils advocate, then he should've set it up as a debate and not an interview. What I did appreciate from this was that his push back made Glenn shine even more. Still, his interruptions had me checking out early.
I am conservative, but Glenn Greenwald is absolutely my favourite journalist, number one, and by far. His integrity is beyond question, he made me consider left wing ideas, by not being a partisan hack like most left "jounalists" are.
Agreed.
Agreed
I have a similar opinion of Jimmy Dore. He's pretty far left, but he's honest and actually wants to find out what the truth is. As a result, I've found myself softening on some of his ideas. I still disagree, but I don't have the visceral response I would have hearing those same ideas from known liars and propagandists. For once, I'm able to believe that a person's motivations come from an honest place.
then he's doing his job, I'd guess.,
Its amazing how many of you do this. Glenn has aligned himself with conservatism. You arent weird for liking it, you just like hearing him say what you already believe.
As a Libertarian, I would say Glenn Greenwald has a fuller understanding of what ails the United States far better than ReasonTV.
@@malvolio01 My guess is that he's trying to say that he's speaking as a Libertarian. A lot of people consider "As an X" to be a coherent and grammatically complete statement about their own personal identity. I think that that's what this guy is doing and that the comma is meant as a period. A lot of people think that periods are for the end of paragraphs and that fully stated ideas can just be linked with commas. When you match up multiple grammatical errors, sometimes the result is a coherent sentence that is intended to mean something quite different from what standard grammatical maxims tell us it does mean.
DiabolicDoug It's unclear whether you mean you are a libertarian or you think Glen is a libertarian.
No, i am
I edited it for you
@@SubvertTheState I would say that, at least in edited form, your meaning is clear.
Personal I don’t care who Glenn votes for or whether he’s left or right, I just get everything he says. His moral and values are solid and represent the world I want my kids to live in.
As an adversarial journalist I love Glenn Greenwald myself but I admit that I enjoy seeing him challenged. Gillespie does a great job
You and your kids should live in a world that is real, not in a world someone made up.
@@zorono2001 Stop talking to yourself as you parrot repeated MSM lies in the face of brave principled TRUTH TELLING! You make no sense except as a parrot! Squark!
@@vladdrakul7851 You should ellaborate. Do you mean MSM like Carlson and Fox news?
@@zorono2001 'elaborate'?? OK! *''You and your kids should live in a world that is real''* how about you play the ball not the man?? Got it yet?? IE YOU SHOULD elaborate! Argue rather than merely insult ('Gaslight')
The interviewer is so very grating. Glenn is so refreshing in a world of Nick Gillespies.
Third time trying to get through this “interview.” We’d know more about Glenn’s views (which are honestly fascinating) if Nick would just stop cutting him off and talking over him. It’s maddening
Nick was trying to raise the subject of Julian, very important to all of this I think nick did his best, he tried at least
I agree. It's a tough watch, the interviewer is incredibly obnoxious.
Right!? This friggin guy has an "answer" for everything 🙄
Nick's not a libertarian, he's a corporatist. He's a Koch brothers toady, most of reason is. If they're right on libertarianism, it's only because the anti state interests of both groups overlap. But he'd gladly change it from state over reach, to corporate over reach.
you people are delusional! I thought that this was a great conversation of back and forth and both brought forth great points from different perspectives. From what I have heard this proves that there is a lot in similar from liberty minded people than is different. Let Libertarian minded join together knowing that they have completely different moral values than the man that they are standing beside because they both understand that we have to walk this life alone and he and he alone is responsible for his actions. Personally I think that killing a unborn baby, cutting the dick off of a 12yr old boy or shoving another man's penis up your backside is not healthy for you just as consuming heroin of meth is not as well, but you are not my responsibility and I am not yours.
Glenn Greenwald is one of the last genuine journalists who still challenges the government. He still knows that is their job in the news media.
He is a journalist. I doubt he would call himself a “news broadcaster.”
@@joeblow1942 Duly noted and I edited my post. 👍
@@joeblow1942 - “news broadcaster”, is synonymous with the term used in the UK, "Newsreader".
@@corin164 Ok, got it.
@@corin164 - Yeah, but Brits can't speak English! Ha!! ;)
I mean the work that James O'Keefe and Glenn Greenwald are doing has nothing to do with being right or left. They just do real honest journalism on real important issues.
Hasn't O'Keefe been busted for lying before though? I don't think he's in the same category as Greenwald.
You could sure see this interviewer's bias. When Glen would bring up an argument that didn't go along with his viewpoint, he would interrupt him. The longer the interview went, you could really see the anger swelling up inside this guy, to the point of becoming more and more hostile towards Glenn. He was doing his best to try and "censor" him without appearing to "censor" him. Bravo Glen for making a forceful argument for free speech and not allowing this guy to shut you down.
I genuinely enjoyed listening to Glenn Greenwald… I didn’t enjoy the person conducting this interview… He seemed to overly insert himself … I believe his audience would appreciate it , if he listened more, while speaking less
My take exactly. He was trying not to come across as the dick he is. But only on certain pet subjects he couldn’t hold it in.
Arguing with the left is now a complete waste of time. Logic and reason (ironically titled ) have no bearing amongst these people . Common sense even more rare
Glenn is the example of how a liberal should be. The interviewer is the example of what a liberal is today.
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Both are an example of the confusion of liberal identity. Time is come to reinvent a politics based upon a more clear eyed view of capitalism and underlying materialism neither of which have any basis in reality.
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You would like Brianha Joy Grey, i think she's spectacular. she was Bernie's Press Secretary for his 2020 campaign, Bernie took her off payroll after she said she wasn't voting for Biden.
My goodness, Nick sounded more like a neo-con establishment media figure. GG is one of the GOATS!
That's because he probably is a neo-con. I bet he knows almost nothing about Hungary and Orban, or Putin and Russia for that matter. Yet he keeps repeating the talking points of the liberal mainstream media.
Because he is
Guys, Nick is hardly a neo-con always beating the military/industrial complex drum. He literally runs a Libertarian news/opinion site.
Additionally, Nick playing devil's advocate kept the conversation lively.
Did not like his mises comment
Glenn doesn’t even live in the US, yet he makes it a better place every single day with his commentary. Thank you, Glenn!
@Down with Corporate Amerika that group with all the Ks was started, run, and used by Dems, and only Dems
@Down with Corporate Amerika incredible. A honest journalist and therefore you hate him. This is what has become of the establishment and their sycophants.
@Down with Corporate Amerika you aware that the Dixiecrats the kkk the southern confederates had a rebrand and are now known as democrats
@Down with Corporate Amerika kkkome on, he deserves no more than two “K”s
@Down with Corporate Amerika Who's your favorite Demokkkrat?
Have a hard time tolerating passive aggressive interviewers like this guy.
These comments are hilarious considering Glenn is extremely bitchy and passive aggressive to anyone who might mildly criticize him.
Guy is a partisan hack
Glen Greenwald you're my hero. Really. America needs a thousand more of you.
Damn right. And I only agree with him some of the time
Mine too - a man you can wholly trust.
These lines of questioning were so infuriating. And the interruptions were over the top. Glad this conversation took place but man.
the interviewer has a tabloid understanding of the right.
Completely agree with you, insufferable ego stop watching the interview can’t stand him I admire Glenn’s patient for this brain dead interviewer
@@oljimeagle
He has the intellect of a four year old [note "I.Q" is a measure of precociousness] who thinks `80's gate keeping and gaslighting techniques will still work.
Both Ignore the feminist question [tm] with stale `70's-`80's gate keeping and gaslighting.
It was like watching 1980's CNN berate some moron republican congress-thing.
The problem with the political pendulum swing (which is occurring among the top cohort -- not journalists or GG) -- which nick started but was not developed by either -- is the amorphous return to "spiritualism."
The interviewer didn't want to hear the replies, he just wanted to levy veiled attack after veiled attack without actually engaging in substantive dialogue. With every competent answer from Greenwald, the interviewer just interrupts and changes topic. So smug. Meanwhile Greenwald is there happily and honestly engaging in good faith.
Nick is smug and annoying ...that fringe jacket is hilarious
Greenwald is a hero in a world of zeroes. I'm a conservative and I love GG!
Greenwald, Asssange and Luke from we are change are the best
agreed
A world where real heroes rot in jail while lesser men reap his there praise
Yeah, QAnon loves Greenwald.
@@persuasivebarrier2419 Greenwald doesn't support Trump though.
Glenn Greenwald is a first class human being. His integrity towers above the wasteland of political dunces we are all enduring.
agreed
Yeah it takes a lot of integrity to promote an honest "good looking" man like Alex Jones, right?
One of the best
@@bganonimouse2754 thank god you said that. Alex jones is obviously one of this countries biggest problems.
I have been following Glenn since 2005.
He is a civil libertarian and he never strayed from that central theme. He is a rare gem.
The more I watch these long form interviews and hear Nick repeat left wing talking points the more I'm reminded why I turned away from big L Libertarianism. Hearing Nick repeat the MSM narrative regarding the GRT only to have Glen throughly dismantle that phony narrative and Nick still tries to make it about anything other than the hollowing out of the middle class. I came hear for a Reason video, I left wanting more long form Greenwald content.
You should abandon Reason and follow Greenwald's videos on Rumble instead.
You're not going to get anything outside of mainstream corporate on this channel. 🙄
@@bobbycecere1037 I might still check out his Rumble but I'm not going to abandon all of Reason because of these interviews. They have a lot of content I love and have no issues with especially their shorter comedy videos.
@@mikethebeast1012
That's fair. I just don't get anything of value from them except for interviews like this and that's only because Glen knows his shit.
Copy-paste on CZcams:
1. "Julian Assange on Seth Rich"
2. "Putin Drops 2 Minutes Of Truth About America & Ukraine"
The MSM isn't left-wing. It's all part of the same state-corporate conglomeration as the parties and their donors.
I am so done with the "Isn't it amazing someone from the left appears on a right wing show?" crap. If the left are so insane (which they are) let's all just stop it with the amazement that sensible people appear on Tucker. We should now be saying "I can't believe people go on CNN, MSNBC and their ilk."
Let's not pretend. Just as obvious as it is why people like Greenwald appear on Tucker, it's equally obvious why folks appear on CNN and MSNBC. That's where they go to get power, prestige, and patronage.
Mind, it's useful in either case to actually say the reasons out loud.
Adam - Yet the Left never ceases in its attempts to get Tucker canceled. There are plenty of people who just don't get it.
In what sense is Greenwald "insane"? And if he's not part of "the left", then what does whoever you're imagining your quotation to be about have to do with this video? And if you're not talking about every individual you count among "the left", then what's with the essentializing?
Nick is obviously obsessed w tucker and fox
@@kham6006 Yes, the further it goes, I see what you mean. It came across as 'Attack Tucker' was the corporate game play objective in this interview. Associating him with the great Replacement theory brought out Nick's outdated bias. Wow.
Glen Greenwald is beyond the political spectrum. A legendary, world class journalist who will be remembered in a positive light.
My god he’s not dead yet I hope ! I know the massively corrupt Washington thugs want that but let’s hope the alphabet agencies are dismantled before Glen is
I agree with him only some of the time but couldn't agree with you more
Glenn is a fearless man and one of my heroes. It’s hardly his fault the Left is in bed with corporate America.
The right is also in bed with corporate America.
There is no real Left in the US. Except perhaps Bernie Sanders and his wing, the Democrats aren't even remotely leftists.
I honestly believe it's a threesome, kinda a love triangle where corporate America determines who it will sleep with for the coming eight years, Democrats or Republicans, aka the Uniparty, or rather what Orwell termed it in his book or Huxley alluded to in his. Neither party is terribly intelligent, however, both are quite corrupt. Maybe, they each saw how the world really works in the aftermath of WWII and vowed to retain the greatest sum of capital, both human and monetary in an effort to extrude generational wealth into the political class as a whole in America thereby stealing a path to aristocracy.
_It's hardly his fault the Left is in bed with corporate America._
It's hardly his fault the -Left- Right is in bed with corporate America.
FTFY
@@pstewart5443 >> I can’t argue with that thought. You’re so right that corruption is rife in both parties. We ought to change the system so that corporations have to deal out in the open; i.e., “the Senator from Exxon”🤣. At least Republicans don’t have f*cking “super delegates” in the primaries, yet. I like Trump because the media hates him among other reasons and I got pleasure from my Presidential vote in 2020 for the first time ever-as opposed to holding my nose and picking the lesser evil. Ah well, I’m rambling. Cheers.
If I had the privilege of talking to Glenn Greenwald for an hour and a half I would like to think I wouldn’t constantly interrupt him. This guy loves to hear his own opinions.
That's his liberal leanings getting through
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@@bobbycecere1037 it’s Nick’s elitist sympathies getting through
An interview isn't the same as listening to somebody talk like in a speech.
That's funny. You've obviously no experience with Glenn. He bans more people on twitter than Dave Rubin. He's a last word Nancy all the time.
I love Glenn's shutting down of Nick on the "great replacement theory." I like Nick's politics, but his brand of libertarianism is spineless. I'm so glad the Mises caucus took over.
Amen
Again. The great replacement theory is nonsense invented by the political right to have a caricature of the political left they can point to. Nothing more.
I would argue that he (Nick) is not really a Libertarian unless there is a big government progressive branch.
Agreed, and you could tell he got it from Tucker who got it from Twitter. Dems/Progs are the ones who have actively promulgated replacement as a *policy*. That Nick can grapple with that tells you where his biases lie.
@@karenaubert8852 I would argue the that the "Mises Causes" isn't really Libertarian
I’m grateful for Greenwald & Snowden. I can say that was the most critical look into the military industrial complex. We need knowledge to morally vote.
come on don't forget, Julian is the first real hero here, Glen will admit that just ask him Tucker. I think Edward would also don't you think.
cant tucker and Fox use they influence to get video link to Julian?
I would like to have heard more from Glenn Greenwald -- he's the smart one, after all.
When Glenn brought up Americans' mental health and suicide/ideation rate, the interviewer's wall of denial went so far up that it hit the roof!!!
at that reply the interviewer said "not to be the reply guy" and then went straight ahead with some what-about-isms. Poor logic and reactionary. Hence why i'm in the comments now
Change the channel. I still remember finding reason mag in the airport years ago as an inspiring read. Times always change
yeah and when he raised Julian case and what he must be going through and faces when those monsters get hold of him. think how that hero must feel, , its even worst than "a wet job on your boyfriend and dog" you must agree surely?
He also hit the roof when GG said "The number of children people aren't having." NG's answer was idiotic. "People don't have children. Women do." As if two people can not start a family, actxually plan one and make a baby together. As if a woman gets pregnant by herself and gives birth to herself. How psychotically narcissistic can you get?
The interviewer is a lolbertarian running a limited hangout protecting corporatism, not a libertarian.
@@fastinbulvis2223 What an overreaction. Whose " hitting the roof" here?
Kudos to the editor for including Glenn's comments about the financial involvement of American political leaders in ukraine since 2014.
As far as I can see, Glenn is the sort of person most leftists like to imagine themselves as, but few actually are.
(Free thinking, principled, genuinely on the side of the oppressed and against abusive state power)
I came to the same conclusion. The left THINKS it supports individual rights, holding elites accountable, freedom of speech, etc, but in reality they only support those things when it is politically advantageous. They readily throw them out the window when it suits them. Sort of like tolerance and diversity. Tolerance for the groups and ideas they like. Diversity only includes the groups they select. Absolutely zero tolerance for opinions that do not hold.
Zero diversity of opinion.
Very big irony.
The left is non negotiable now. They have lost reason and accountability and traded that for violence and looting
The establishment hijacks and corrupts every organisation we (real leftists) start to try and fight back. We've been pushed to the fringes now, and find we have more in common with principled righties than we do with whatever the hell passes for an ideology in the Dems' cultural and political sphere these days.
Glen is RIGHTEOUS in his journalism, 1 of the ONLY ONES left.
Thank you so very much
I really appreciate Greenwald. I can't stand the interviewer who lives in an ideological dream world disconnected from a different experience most of us share. Libertarians are always their worst enemies.
lol .... libertarians are actually liberals with a bit of common sense. They do not realize the middle ground does not exist in this fight, since the left won't tolerate it
I wouldn't say that. Im a libertarian and im happy with my party and happy to be in the center. I just wish more people felt total freedom for you as an individual instead of your party's primacy or hegemony. Thats a shitty way to be
Big L or little l? The reason/beltway cuckolds are pathetic but actual libertarians like the Mises Caucus who just took over the LP (and will be running an actual libertarian for the first time in forever) are fn awesome. Unfortunately, having government interfere in your life for the negative is just about the most common 'experience most of us share' that there is in 2022.
@@user-qo3yy9nv1u so you're a rich guy. bfd. the rest of us are not
usa is the land of opportunity. these people are out of their minds, living in a world that is not there.
When you invite someone for an interview it’s not a debate, you’re not there to argue with them. you are there to explore their opinions and thoughts, hence stop interrupting again and again
let say his lines agreed
It is as you say, it is
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Questioning someones opinions or statements is not a debate per se, but can be exploring or challenging the views of someone.
glen is so much smarter than this interviewer. By miles.
And intellectually honest. .
Great to see Glenn correcting every point that was really important.
Nick is physically unable to concede any point, no matter how well Reasoned
Are you surprised
@@jthemagicrobot3960 Sadly not. I'm getting more frustrated with every interview he does.
It's because he's locked in perpetual childhood. Not to go to deep into a dive on Nick, but it's been pointed out the dude is never in public without a leather jacket or a jean jacket, the hairstyles, the affectations, etc.
He's basically a grown man trapped in a rebellious teen's brain. And teenagers aren't exactly known for their ability to concede when they're wrong.
i don’t know Nick, but i would assume that he is doing that to improve the content and get the discussion going into more depth. would all of this content have resulted if he agreed with some points. perhaps not. just offering something to consider.
@@WillCarter1976 except he's no real rebel. He's still moronically spouting and believes in 1980s Milton Friedman free-market, libertarian stupidity that has been disproven time and time again.
Again you misrepresent Tucker’s view on replacement theory. He is not the essentialist. The Democratic reasoning was and is. Really please shake your head and listen charitably to what he says on this. Greenwald said what I’m saying and you did not listen.
Agree how can he have tds, he's warped by media propaganda, he can't cut the cable
Nick's not listening for the answer. He's waiting to put in his 2 cents. He's terrible.
This was a highlight for me as well. The establishment left have essentially just settled on a strawman version of Tucker’s argument. Not only is it frustrating, it’s also a little disorienting and perhaps somewhere in its core intentionally so. You find yourself wondering if you were the one who heard it wrong.
Tucker very explicitly points to the democrats’ own messaging and yet this gets turned around and thrown back on him. If you don’t actually watch his show ever, you won’t know the difference.
There’s a lesson to be learned methinks.
Wasn't it said in court that Tucker Carlson could be seen as entertainment so shouldn't really be taken seriously on everything?
Him and Hannity are exactly the same as anyone else on MSNBC and CNN. Corporatists obsessed with money and power. Tucker Carlson is an heir to a TV dinner fortune, he doesn't care about anyone working or middle class.
@@badmofaux You nailed it, but I think you’re being generous saying the establishment’s misrepresentation of TC’s position is “perhaps” intentional. It is definitely intentional. They can’t offer reasoned counterpoints so they resort to ad hominem attacks to diminish their ideological opponents.
Thank god for Glenn right now!! This is one of the best interviews, discussing such challenging topics in a grounded fair way. We need more of these conversations.
Glenn is definitely one of the few people with a true open mind, and a real reason to be hopeful about our future. His type of thinking is what the US was originally founded upon, and I so hope we build a new generation of said people going forward.
This was a fantastic interview. I would have greatly enjoyed another six hours of this. I have enormous respect for Greenwald's consistency.
Thank god for Glenn.
Ignoring the feminist question [tm] with stale `70's-`80's _gate keeping_ and _gaslighting._
The problem with the political pendulum swing (which is occurring among the top cohort -- not journalists or GG) -- which nick started but was not developed by either -- is the amorphous return to "spiritualism."
Listen to his all in podcast interview. Or Rogan. A better discussion
@@toserveman9317 - Spirituality not spiritualism.
Well, he is not consistent at all. He fails to recognize that what makes him say 'my husband' is the same baseless ideology that substantiate the trans movement. He is just 'outdated' in this modern progressive craze.
Chelsea Manning's betrayal of Glenn is appalling. All he did for that person should have earned Glenn a LIFETIME of appreciation.
Ya disappointing Manning sold her soul to the oligarchy after what they did to her.
Glenn is at an age where a guarantee of loyalty or even appreciation should be viewed cautiously.
Gotta say, Glenn first got my attention when he actually covered the Obama administration straight up, breaking with the main stream media. I think he was with the Guardian then.
I just want to add that Chelsea Manning is not an emotionally stable individual. Clearly.
The most obvious of possible explanations is that Womanning has found herself in an extremely toxic social environment, one in which she would be shunned for forgoing an opportunity to reinforce the dominant narrative. If you don't help yourself to a cut of the ill-gotten social gains that are available for the taking at the expense of a rational basis for self-respect, you'll be strongly suspected of disloyalty. Mainstream political party fandom are cults with a brand, instead of a person, at the centre.
@@HeyHEY-fg9rp It reminds me of how many of a certain minority are Christian ultimately because it was forced (physically and lethally) upon their ancestors. You'd think that at some point they'd realize that the boogeyman who told them to stay in the unlocked dungeon or he'd kill them is not coming back.
My “Like” is for GG. Am leaving with a distaste for the interviewer but appreciate the opportunity to witnesses a (mostly) civil exchange between intellectual men. As a Mex-American, I am grateful for Glen’s clear explanation of GRT. This is just one reason why this Latina “walked away” from the Democratic Party and registered Independent. I will be voting for conservative candidates as it is time to get rational adults back behind the wheel. The craziness has to stop.
Thank goodness that Glenn Greenwood is an honest journalist who is still keeping up with what is actually going on with middle and lower class American people and neighborhoods! He’s a journalist I agree with often or learn from more often! Refreshing!
wait for when he speaks of the real hero who made all this possible , no surrender to the man "YOU MUST RESIST" never forget what he said !
Glenn is the best journalist of my time.
He's no Alex Jones.
@@aldousorwell3807 😂😂
@@brentwells8963 Alex Jones is a lunatic and a bull in a china shop but there’s no doubt that EVERYTHING he’s been ranting and raving about for over 20 years is coming to pass NOW.
❤️❤️❤️
@Brent Wells Say what you will about Alex Jones. I’ve never heard more people say “Alex Jones was right” then I have the last 2 years.
Hysterical when Glenn refers to the woman in the CIA promo with, '...the full panoply of millennial mental health pathologies that they're proud of her for having.' 😄
he's a wordsmith, for sure
he knows how CIA work obviously
We should start understanding that these pundits cannot please each and everyone's tastes and upbringing, beliefs.
Ie: G.G. upsets me for his sexual ways and abigiguity towards abortion, N.G. a Catholic puts Monty Python over Jesus. Yet in the majority of their viewpoints I side with their world view. Simply put nobody's perfect.
Should be it's own disstrack to a generation
I love you Glenn. I don’t agree with you on everything but have huge respect for you and the way you present your thoughts. You represent what journalism should be. Thank you.
I don't listen that hard just waiting till he reminds us all about Julian, thats the most pressing story for great real journalist, ask John Pilger or Noam Chomsky
Love love love Glenn Greenwald. This was a great interview.
The way the host switched off the Ukraine issue the second GG dropped the truth bomb about it, was quite telling, considering he had only just broached the issue.
yep
Glenn is an absolute gem! He doesn't toe anyone's narrative and is true to himself and his craft. I probably disagree with him on many things, but I absolutely respect his honesty and integrity. 🙏❤️✌️🗽🇺🇸🇧🇷
Absolutely. I disagree with him on some of his liberal stances but he is Absolutely great.
Nice to see a fan of RUDY GIULIANI praising Greenwald, so everyone understands the kind of FILTH he now considers his friends!
I totally agree. He is brilliant.
It's what someone with actual morality looks like. You can disagree strongly with what they politically believe and still award them great respect.
Oh BS. He has become like Dave Rubin. He defends the people that despise his lifestyle cuz he is just an edge lord now.
at 40 mins Glenn stood up in a fantastic way to the interviewer. excellent.
Glenn Greenwald is worthy. When he speaks - I listen.
Usually Nick is a thoughtful interviewer, but his bias against Tucker Carlson really taints the interview.
It only shows his true hypocrisy!
Specially when he intentionally misrepresented Tucker on immigration. Tucker like most Americans is extremely concern of the illegal immigration going on in our country right now. And how the immigration system is so broken and nobody is doing anything to fix it. I am Mexican decent and I 100% agree with Tuckers on illegal immigration
Yeah he managed to turn Tucker’s position of not wanting conflict with Russia to “an affinity for Putin and autocrats”. Straight from the Bush/Clinton playbook. Pretty amazing and also disappointing
@@viennabird9492 It's because Reason supports open borders.
I thought he was rather annoying throughout the interview.
@@viennabird9492 yea I think that's probably Nick's greatest fault is his border stance, like it's not that I'm a closed border guy but immigration needs to be properly regulated, we can't just have anyone coming over the border, we don't know who these people are, if they are a part of gangs ect, we need proper vetting and we also need to limit the amount aloud in each year.
Greenwald is one of the handfull of journalist that is trustworthy, The truth to him is more important than success and that is a rare..rare quality today.
Glenn Greenwald is a brilliant, courageous, and passionate man. We are lucky to have him.
He's certainly passionate about defending Alex Jones, he thinks he's good looking. Go figure...
such an honest and thoughtful journalist - Glenn is one of the best of our times - no agenda.
up there with Julian almost
That little "great replacement" snip by Nick at Tucker was really disingenuous. I'm a libertarian so believe me when I say I have my issues with Tucker, but he's not a racist. Implying that he is either means you either a) haven't watched his show in any meaningful way or b) are lying. Please be better than that lazy trope. I mean, avoiding lazy tropes is kind of the entire point of this publication, no?
Nick is a left-libertarian, his antenna is always focused on highlighting the worst possible risk of right-wing politics, while he gives progressives more of a pass. It's very plain when you look at his Convention interviews with Sarwark and Heiss/Smith/McArdle.
@@SirEmoSushi Nick sees Nazis behind every tweet.
If it was, he missed the mark. He spent the whole interview talking about a caricature of people like tucker and Trump and act like it's reality. Glenn was far too easy on this guy
I don't watch Tucker, either, but I definitely got the impression (both from Greenwald in the interview and elsewhere people are discussing the topic) that Tucker's complaint wasn't racially based but culturally based. You can't maintain a high-trust society with a large segment of people socialized to low-trust, for example.
@@boobah5643 What’s really ironic is do you think Nick would assume it came from a place of racism if a Japanese person said “I like to preserve Japanese culture” or a Turkish person said “I like to preserve Turkish culture”? I seriously doubt it. I seriously doubt he’s even thought about that.
I disagree with Glenn on thing periodically but I love that he approaches each issue from a logical and reasoned approach. We need more journalist like him.
I so agree,
Glenn is right about the American part-responsibility for the events in Ukraine.
Absolutely amazing interview!
This is what a real man and incredible journalist looks like!
If people are mad at him going on Tucker Carlson then they should immediately start hunting for common sense😊👍🏼
Real man doesn't say 'my husband'
@@koroglurustem1722 We are kinda focusing on journalistic Integrity right now.
@@koroglurustem1722 we have to stop focusing on what makes us different and pay a little more attention to what we have in common. “United we stand, divided we fall” The people in power do everything they can to keep us divided because they know when we come together there is no obstacle that can stop us! At the end of the day we all really want the same thing regardless of gender, race, religion or sexual preference.
Btw im straight and married with 3 children and when I was younger I would have immaturely agreed with you 1000% but I have opened my eyes a little more as I got older.
50:00 Glenn Greenwald is right about great replacement and Tucker. Nick is not.
good
whites deserve to be replaced.
less drug users is always a good thing.
I like Nick but he is the libbiest of libertarians. Presumably subs to NYT and reads it daily.
@@badmofaux still better than most of the "independent" shit online
Egh, Tucker is ok... but he's no libertarian, that being said its hard to call Nick a libertarian anymore when he apologizes for corporate fascism and doesn't ever criticize the federal reserve, though for the first time ever in this episode I atleast saw him out some croney capitalism going on so props to him but still to back track with the parlor comment was disappointing.
We need free market competition period! No corporate fascist apologists, enough is enough!
damn so many fascists reasontv has
for some reason
Free Snowden, Assange and the January 6th political prisoners.
And the silk road guy.
And not the Jan 6 protesters who attacked officers.
@@PurpleGhost666 those people have spent 13 months in solitary without a trial. They have paid their debt too, let em go.
@@jp1135 Yeah, that's wrong , they should have been tried, if they're not that's very unconstitutional.
@@PurpleGhost666 we have a two tier justice system
@@PurpleGhost666 Which ones haven't been tried yet?
*Yes Geenwald is the most important and honest journalists in America today.*
Glenn Greenwald tells the truth, so that accounts for who does and doesn't like him.
I'll tell you why I love Glenn...I don't have to agree with his politics. I just need to know he is telling the truth. No matter who it helps. No matter who it hurts. Period.
I wish more people felt this way.
@@i8am8kemraj84 the journey of 1000 miles starts with the first step. It's up to you and me to change things.
Glenn is way too smart for the interviewer. Also, Ukraine is not a sovereign country, it's a client state of the US. Something that is being very obvious for quite a while, especially now!
Why aren't more people aware of this??
This is a man who is using his intellect for the greater good as much as he can in anyway he can. He never backs down or is dishonest. He is a truth warrior. You know Noam Chomsky recently said he has known many people that worked for the privatized media and they they all told him the media is BS.
I appreciate G.G. for his bravery and his stance on moral issues. The interviewer however was difficult to listen to. When Glen was speaking on topics that he didn't care for, he would talk over him with "Sure, sure." Also, I must correct the interviewer on something. Tucker Carlson is not anti-immigration- Tucker is against illegal immigration.
Bruhhh… Gave Gillespie another chance and totally regret it. He’s unbearably infuriating! Never heard interviewer interrupt, talk over and not allow a guest either finish answering or just answer a damn question before asking another one. Also, If that isn’t bad enough I’m certain this condescending clown actually spoke more than the actual guest with all the I this I that I believe I think 😵💫
Agree but why put yourself though it if you know its full of those types of clowns on fox, I was only waiting for Julians plight to come up, I gonna watch it again just in case , i missed it
You have clearly been blessed to never have watched Piers Morgan interview someone.
Yes this Nick guy plays to his woke gallery. Totally unpro and amateur.
This interview really exposes Nick's disdain of all conservatives as if it's still 1983 and they want to take his Ozzy Osbourne records away.
He thinks they're all racist, religious zealots.... even though he admits in this same interview that people got past that stuff in the 90's.
I'm not a conservative.. or maybe i am in some ways.. but real conservatives who are religious, traditional, and are skeptical about the prevailing ideology that the free-market and capitalism are the New Gods who must be worshipped and can do no wrong, and who believe there is more to human life and happiness than just material goods, are far more correct in their worldview than adoloscent free-market libertarians.
@@hv3115 I've always seen big contradictions in both major parties because you're right. Most of the economically Progressive people are socially conservative while most economically conservative people are socially liberal. The two major parties seem to defy this paradigm.
@@tommyanomaly6193 free markets is economic Liberalism.
@@sirhcffoh294 yes, classical liberalism
thank god people are seeing this
I love listening to Glenn because he comes right out with stuff and doesn't waste my time with drama. He says what he has to say and then he shuts up. I do not like the interviewer at all. Glenn is the only person person in media today who doesn't waste time. Waiting for the other shoe to drop for me is agonizing. Thank you Glenn!
wow, 51 minutes in, Glenn's explanation about talking politics with friends was fantastic.
that’s so great when one can have that… a true friendship to discuss opposing political ideas. seems almost impossible today, due to political party tensions and few deep friendships
great respect for Greewald. Glad to hear him sharing his views on things other than free speech, which I also greatly resonate.
Greenwald plays the part of an extreme right wing fascist these days because it is lucrative. Reason TV is also right wing fascist.
Julian has a much nicer speaking voice though
My God this interviewer is the literal definition of a useful "you know what". Any critique or criticism of the left IMMEDIATELY has to be followed up with "well the right". His fundamental inability to grasp what Glenn was saying about Tucker was just mind-blowing. And although he consistently harps on the "authoritarian right" he finds basically no examples to back up his continued claims outside of Russia. Luckily Glenn is a nice guy.
Love Mr Greenwald. Don't always agree with him. Appreciate his neutral and honest reporting
"It is with great sadness that I must also conclude that my country has sunk to such political and moral depths that it is now an apartheid regime. It is time for the international community to recognise this reality as well."
Michael ben-yair, former attorney general of Israel
Well this was great. Always worth it to hear what Greenwald has to say: compared to Liberal "journalists" of today, he is like on another planet
Tucker’s view is for traditional family values and has nothing to do with race . He is calling out the hypocrisy in politics and other media news. He believes in following the law in regards to immigration. I do too. Tulsi goes on fox too even though she’s a democrat. She gets asked to go on and the left medias don’t ask her. Probably because she does fit their narrative. She believes like Greenwald that Americans need to hear their views on whatever platform.
Democrats and the left only currently have the luxury of pretending not to care about immigration. It’s the standard empty virtue signaling of course when meanwhile they are arguably more territorial and tribalist than the right. Evidence for this abounds from the “autonomous zones” of 2020 to their preoccupation with racial categories and gender.
In fact most if not all people require some sense of cultural identity or boundary. Nationhood just happens to be broad and benign enough to satisfy this need for the largest number of us.
Democrats however thrive on division and breaking people up into various, ever increasing categories it seems. “The right” then becomes increasingly defined as the bogeyman by necessity.
Tulsi has been _persona non grata_ to the Left since she sank Harris's presidential run on national TV. She wasn't warmly embraced before then, but she's been a pariah since.
Linda - Agreed. Additionally, and Tucker has said this numerous times, he is not opposed to LEGAL immigration but is horrified by the lawlessness of an open southern border.
P.S. Technically, 'medias' isn't a word. Medium is the singular and media is the plural. (I'm determined to save our language from any further destruction.)
lol, yeah it's just a silly accident that his media companies keep hiring white nationalists.
@@foxtrotjulietbravo5536 immigration is international finance importing an OVER supply of labour in, its a race to the bottom particularly for the working class. Oligarchs love immigration
I’ve enjoyed Glenn’s work since his days on Salon in the late 00’s. Always sharp. Always informed. Always logical. Always well written and spoken. This interview was very enjoyable.
Glenn lives in Brazil because of the threat by the U.S government, same reason Snowden is living in Russia, They are next in line to follow the fate of Julian Assange, IT scares me, when he comes to the states
Greenwald was great as usual , Gillespie was frequently exasperating if not outright dickish at times
'Dickish"-if anything that's an understatement. Gillespie parroting the talking points of neo liberal pundits--clearly absent any first hand experience with Tucker's statements and then doubles down defining Greenwald' dalliances with integrity as somehow"Right Wing" seems to out Gillespie as objectively compromised. Also noteworthy Gillespie's super hip Making Deadwood Great Again ensemble.
Gillespie has a tendency to be a dick in interviews. That being said when he isn’t, he’s a very good interviewers
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Hilarious
Many people shit on Greenwald for his style which at times borders on polemic, his willingness to criticize those who are his former colleagues and go against the progressive grain. They all rely on speculative ad hominem attacks, the sort of deconstructivist thinking assumes bad intentions based on circumstance regardless of what the argument says. These sorts of critics reveal more about themselves than they do Greenwald. I have never read a Glenn Greenwald article or seen a video in which he relied on falsehoods, ad hominems or exaggeration to get his point across. He always does what journalists should do, gives the facts, and bases his claims solely on those facts.
He did not change sides, by being welcomed by conservatives. He is sticking what he always has done, exposing yhe truth about bad decisions, made by the most powerful elements in society, at great risk to himself.
Greenwald did not change, the Democratic Party and progressivism did.
Glen is against the pretend progressives that are sheparding for corporate DNC..
The Democrat Party has become an oxymoron. They are the antithesis of “ liberal”.Instead, authoritarian CommunoFascist, intolerant, racist, sexist, misogynistic, misanthropic, antisemitic, violent,sadististic, judgmental, militaristic,hateful,anti-democracy,narrow-minded,anti-humanist,surveillance enthusiast,technocratic sociopaths
Philosophisn't - That sounds eerily familiar.
P.S. Love your username. Clever.
I don't think the Democratic Party really changed. Showed us their teeth, maybe. They always hated our guts.
I like Glen so much. Level headed. Doesn’t seem to always slant the facts toward his biases. Thoughtful, coherent and good sense of humor.
22:40 hit it on the head Glenn. Very well said.and 29:50. Glenn, I believe you are a good person w good intentions for humankind. You get it on so many levels. Collective conscious is the only way and I respect you both and the integrity of this interview. 👏 just slayed it Glenn the whole interview. Yer mind works so quick. Haha, ask about Assange but quickly change subject when Glenn spits some truth.
29:38 Interviewer: "Is it that you need two incomes?" Has this guy been living under a rock for the past 20 years?
Nick lost me with...'people don't have children, women have children'
Glenn making wonderful points about the modern day struggles of our young people, and Nick is more concerned with virtue signaling.
Also Nick was talking about upper-class women who have important careers. So many woman struggling on small salaries facing inability to buy a home with a spouse = no kids.
I don't think he was virtue signaling, but drawing attention to the fact that the changing status of women in society has more to do with falling birthrates than any economic malaise. I agree with him on that, but agree with Glenn on the broader point.
@@miramichi30 That is a coastal elitist viewpoint to have. The majority of women working in America aren't in some white-collar "climbing the ladder" girl-power job. Like Glenn said, they are working a job like Target or Amazon because their family needs two incomes.
Women give birth and only women was the point Nick was making.
@@TomTomTom87 Are the relevant aspects of social status limited to the realm of employment?
This interviewer is hopelessly lost in last decades left/right paradigm.
Glenn Greenwald, you have been and will continue to be a hero of democracy.
I say a hero of FREEDOM!
Defending Alex Jones is heroic, he did nothing wrong.
You're wrong about Tucker, Nick. He went as far as to explain his stance on air. You should watch it.
No, he's not wrong about Tuckems. You're just a fanboy.
Tucker is a badass, dudes been preaching the truth for a long time! The only people that dismiss him aren't listening because they are propagandized.
@@XxGreatestyouknoWxX the biggest cartoon in corporate news media and the biggest show on the most popular corporate news out there- and it’s not propaganda. Nice, bro.
@@persuasivebarrier2419 Tuckers a genius bro! He is also on a very popular news network. The guys making out like a bandit thats for sure, he's also telling it like it is, while simultaneously delivering a one two punch in an articuated assault on Socialist Environmentalist finger wagging.
@@XxGreatestyouknoWxX You don't sound like a genuine person. The only person I know who talks like this, hangs out on white power hour, is Glenn Greenwald.
Greenwald is brilliant. This interviewer is well spoken and interesting but alarmingly misinformed, especially on tech and media constructs. His commentary on replacement theory and parler is provably false. He keeps getting in the way.
His belief on what's true or not is gauged by how many trusted sources (by him) are saying the same thing.
He isn't clever enough to search for truth.
He's not that interesting.
It is both surprising and disappointing that someone as well-read as Nick Gillespie completely misunderstands Tucker Carlson's take on the Great Replacement Theory. It's surprising because Tucker has discussed his views at length on his show. He has explained what he believes and what he does NOT believe. He has explained why he believes what he does and has shared some of the original source documents that shaped his views. Despite all that exposition, Nick attributes to Carlson a view Tucker has explicitly disavowed.
And that should tell you something profound about Gillespie and Reason.
I’m so grateful Glenn accepted Tucker’s platform, that was my first encounter with Glenn and have followed his exceptional journalism ever the first appearance on TCT on Fox
I like how he labels "the great replacement theory" as a racist conspiracy theory and Glenn said "it's literally what the left explicitly says their strategy is".
And then you realize that casting it as a a racist conspiracy theory is exactly what you would do if that was infact the strategy.
Typical Reason. Establishment shills
Its that same standard formulation: first they deny it and call you a crazy conspiracy theorist, then at some point they pivot and say “actually that’s precisely what is happening, and it’s good.”
Exactly when the shift happens depends on what’s politically advantageous to the left. But it’s the same trick every damn time.
But its actually not. The replacement theory is no talking point within left-wing circles.
Its a talking point among right-wingers and libertarians, who never actually looked at the political left.
@@zorono2001 They don’t say it outright of course, but that doesn’t mean they don’t strategize along those lines in various incoherent ways.
At least that’s the bit that Tucker puts out there. And to great effect I might add. Funny and oh so damning.
Democrats hate it because it strikes a nerve.
@@badmofaux So, there is no source but Tucker Carlson assuming? Seems not quiet appropriate.
Nick misrepresenting Tucker always and forever. ಠ_ಠ
He also misrepresents the mises caucus -_-
This was an amazing conversation. They are both great conversationalists, very quick thinking and great chemistry.
I wish I could find people like that to talk with.
Yeah, I know what you mean . . .
As an actual lefty, I absolutely adore Glenn, plus Jimmy Dore, Michael Tracey, Max Blumenthal, Aaron Mate, Katie Halper, Brie Joy Gray, Nick, Jay, Rome, & Afeni of Revolutionary Blackout Network...
Wonderful interview. I am an enthusiastic Greenwald fan.
He is probably THE one journalist I can say I trust.
Max Blumenthal, Aaron Mate, and Katie Halberd are all pretty good too.
And I only discovered them through Glenn's recommendation.
It's also how I found out Jimmy Dore awoke from his shitlib veil , left YT, and had become an actual socialist.
Cenk and company are still crap though.
Why do you trust him?
This could've been really good if Gillespie didn't interrupt every fucking answer. Greenwald is fantastic. Gillespie is not.
The intro audio levels were right on point... as soon as it got into the interview there was a sizable drop in decibel. I know it's not the biggest thing in the grand scheme of the interview but for me it's the details and little things that separate the players from the giants. Either way I love Glenn and am appreciative you took the time to put this together in the first place.
My phone is maxed out… still hard to hear w/ background noise.👂 Ads were crazy loud! 🔈Those audio level drops are so frustrating… at least wasnt changing constantly