How To Install A Mountain Bike Tyre Insert | MTB Rim Protection
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 23. 07. 2024
- Tyre inserts are a fantastic addition to your MTB, especially if you ride in really rough and rocky conditions. Here is how to fit one to the inside of your tyre and set it up tubeless đ§
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I poke the cable tie buckle back inside the foam by rotating the cable tie after tightening and cutting. That way it won't damage the tire OR the rim tape.
Perfect timing. I have an insert ready to install this weekend.
Great tutorial Doddy as always!
Just changed my tyre setup today. Vittoria Martello rear, Mota front with a Nukeproof ARD insert on Spank rims. Easiest tubeless install I've ever seen, inflated instantly with a track pump and popped the bead on at 30 psi.
Thanks Dotty. I'm going to give it a try...got tubes right now. Excellent video as always.
Brilliant, never thought of getting the tyre to seal first. I've been messy and wasteful for year's doing it the old way.
you make it look so easy ! Great job
Excellent video Mr.
No rubbish distracting background music, just clear and concise instruction ââââ
You did this so clean wow. I saw good mechanics struggle with inserts for much longer while you did this so effortless. Nice vid
Just what I was after. Cheers Doddy!
Next amazing innovation - solid rubber tires
Very clean instalation. Nice Job.
Great video! Thatâs what Iâd do before putting in the sealant. Make sure that the tyre walls seat on the rim properly by pumping to its maximum recommended pressure. Then only Iâd fill in the sealant using a syringe. I learn a new thing - how to install the foam insert correctly. Thank you so much! đ
You made it look effortless , I now have the confidence to get rid of my tubes .
Thanks for the tips mate
I liked it a lot and very good material.
FINALLY! Thanx
This was a clean and good demonstration. Kudos to you mate! I decided to use this method for my Dyson electric I was sick and tired of punctures.đđđČ
Glad it helped!
How did it work out man?
Maravilloso
Thanks. I tend to put the tyre on the wheel with a tube, indoors overnight. Deflate and release one side and remove the tube, then fit the valve and insert. This pre step helps the tyre take the rim shape and makes subsequent inflation and re-beading easier. I also find that watery soap is better than soapy water to help the re-beading. Hth
One other remark: presta valves are not really designed for this being rather narrow and cores are easily blocked by tiny bits of dried sealant which leads to slow leaks. Any chance tubeless and wheels will go back to using Schraeder with removable cores as these are wider?
Wow very nice sir
Nice timing on this video. I got a spanking new Assegai in the shed waiting to be mounted. What is the model name of that Topeak floor pump, Doddy? I do need a new one.
nice sir god bless đ
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Hey guys, very informative video, loved it. I've just bought 2 cushcore inserts and I was wondering can I also put my sealant through the valve because of the construction of the cushcore I have my doubts that the sealant will spread efficiently... You would greatly help me out! Cheers!
if possible push the wall of the tire IN the rim, same side, 180degrees from the segment you're working on. the rim has a smaller diameter in it's center, just enough to help a lot when fitting the tires.
besides the soapy water, the greatest help is heat (sun, hair dryer, etc). a warm tire is easier to work with.
*special valves mainly for weight reduction :}. a nice hole on the side of a regular valve would do the same job.
I was wondering why a standard car tubeless valve with a groove filed in the end would not suffice if a little extra weight is not an issue!
I usually seat the tyre first, then break the bead on one side, then you have more room to get the Airliner in
Can we have a video comparing inset performance, i am currently stuck and don't know what to get
You can also spin the wheel on the bike to help the sealant spread đ
Not all inserts require the different tubeless valve. Running Tannis armor in mine and has holes in the insert to allow air flow. Good video though!
I have a Vittoria in the front as a lighter option to the cush core in the back just for some rim protection. Mounting a tire with a Vittoria is a walk in the park compared to cush core.
jaja yes it looks very easy in the video i can confirm it's nothing similar with a different brand of tyres / insert. Maxxis DD and cushcores doesn't like each other
Loving my tire inserts, they allow me to ride much harder on my enduro hardtail without the risk of damaging a rim or pinch flatting
Do you only run one in the rear or front and rear both?
@@KimballPrecisionRifles I run one in the rear, because it helps the rear wheel getting damaged and stops it from bouncing due to the extra weight. I think it isn't needed to run one up front if you have a good fork.
Hope that helps!
@@youtubeviewer9523 thatâs exactly what I was thinking. Figured with good suspension they shouldnât be needed for most of the riding I do. But thereâs no suspension in the rear so Iâll have to try one
@@KimballPrecisionRifles Trust me they help a lot! and they give you a confidence boost to send it
They are a lifesaver on the rear wheel of a HT with single ply tyres.
Installed the air liner on my rims. Front tire perfect makes no noise and seems to me doing great. Rear rim was the same, but now I hear the liner moving back and forth on the rim.
if I take the tire off the bike and wiggle it back and forth, like when you add sealant, I can hear it hitting the tire. It is cut just like the front and installed properly.... Just now pulled the liner out and checked to see if the zip tie broke... nope. Installed again, added sealant and the same thing... soo weird... Thoughts, needs some expert advice... of the good kind.. Cheers G
#AskGMBNTech Hello, I have gotten my hands on a Mondraker foxy r (2012). Shock was blown so got a good deal. I will send it to fox service center, but I want to do a lower leg service myself, but I can't find a dust wiper set for 2012 Fox Float 32mm. Can I use modern 32mm seals, even if they are not 100% perfect? Or should I just clean the seals and add new oil? Or do I have to buy a brand new fork? Thank you!
Well done. How about a blooper reel of tire sealant disasters?
I think this would be a good for the Dirt Shed Show maybe? Or GMBN Tech Disasters Segment perhaps?
Super
I couldnât get my Vitoria airliner and maxxis tyre to go on my rear rim. I ended up breaking 2 tyre levers. I gave up in the end.
once the inserts are installed and you are ready to re-inflate the tire do you still use the same factory air pressure or is it different now?
I made the hole on the inside of the rim of the insert a little bigger and pulled the part sticking out inside the insert
Hi Friend, I have a little question, the sealing liquid must be changed periodically. ? . Or is it just set once?
is this a good thing to do or is my basic tubeless setup fine how much befit do u get from spending the extra money on one off these ? I've just gotten a new bike and from pedals to gear all this is getting Hella expensive 100 here 200 there 300 there all these lil things
#gmbn tech
Hi Doddy!
I was really impressed of this pump when I saw it on the homepage of Topeak. Currently I've still my TOPEAK Joeblow Booster in use buit I would be interested in this pump in practice. If you would like to make a video of presenting this new pump I ould be happy about it.
Please tell me what you think about it.
CHEERS!
@Doddy you could have used the tyre levers much later and for far less effort if you had pushed the bead in to the deepest section of the rim. I know spank have a raised middle section but they still have a lower âwellâ which will give you more bead to play with when getting the last bit on.
maybe the insert makes no possible to do that... but yes with out an insert that is the right way to do it ;) and some times the only one jaja
Can't push the bead in the middle because the insert is dense not much play
tubless tape, sealant, tire inserts and expensive valves. I'm *sure* there's still some space left inside our tires to market a new product. How about helium balls?
New product idea: Helium tire inflators, reducing rotating unsprung mass by 0.7%
They already exist...
(sans Helium) called
*BikeBalls* or *TireBalls* I believe they are called...
How about a rubber tube that you can fill with air, nitrogen, helium.
I used to have inner tubes and the outer one didn't beat now I put Vitoria on and the outer tire started beating any ideas what it could be.
Stans no tubes can be used inside tubes too. Says on the front of the bottle. Incase anyones wondering
Hi Doddy, is it possible to deform a stubborn tire with levers, ending up with a wobble?
Yes. It has happened to me.
What's roughly the psi difference after fitting an insert?
Thank you. đ
My existing tire rim does not have any marking, it has like a lip all around the edge of the rim on both side, can I convert it to tubeless tire?
Dos the rim have to be tubeless ready???? To youse the green inserts...
Crazy i was just talking about this a day ago no one listen to me of course Have Great Day
I gave up with mine after wrestling with it, might have to give it another go after watching that.
Mr Dodd...do inserts absorb sealant ? I use the Vittoria's in my gravel bike , they come sized and they're easy to use , to me anyway ? Thank you ....Peace
Just changed my rear tyre, had a Vittoria Airliner in there for 8 months. Didn't seem like it had absorbed any Sealant, ie not any softer or swelled up at all. I'm using muc off sealant
What is the liner for.
The first time I ever seen an insert was the other day watching Red Bull Rampage, when Reed Boggs blew his out on an over rotation. Honestly I didn't even know they existed, doh...
Interesting to see at least three Rampage riders not completing runs due to wheel damage and/or tire blow outs. Extreme riding and big drops but tubeless set up seem to be an issue. One for Doddy to discuss in a future ep?
#askgmbntech how do you stop tubeless tyres leaking air round the bead? I have a Vittoria airliner installed in Vittoria Mazza tyres and the rear seems to be leaking air around the bead and its very irritating because it goes down whilst I'm out riding.
Soapy water around the bead, like in the video!
How about the weight between inner tube and this kind of tubeless?
Was going to ask about that. I have yet to see any videos fully explaining if these things are truly worth it or not.
165g for size m insert, so still lighter then inner tire....
Hmm, my Vittoria inserts came with as one piece and fit perfectly. No cutting or janky zip-tie needed.
This is a few years old now, a lot of the new systems don't require this :)
Hello everyone
Yo Andrew the Woodsman ! Peace
Hi Doddy, it toke 2 times I see. The m it's not in middle ,,đ and after the peep it is
2 sides of the tyre with different locations of the labels. I thought that and went back and checked
Is it possible to fit tubeless on rim which is not stated as ready for tubeless?
It is, but thereâs no guarantee itâll work
There inventing a anti bust tyre itâs like made of curly springs
so with this setup is there less chance of getting punctures than with an innertube
Considerably fewer chances yes!
I never understood why people do not seat the tire first and then inject the sealant through the valve. You can do this with the little Stans bottles too. I have been using Cush cores front and rear for years and love them. I want to try this Vitoria one now.
in my case i used that method but i think the sealant with a few days gets dry in the valve and gets difficult to inflate the tyre also the top of the valve when you close it don't fit perfect and lose air... next time i think i will put the sealant direct on the tyre.
@@hugor.b.6351 The sealant will get in that area anyway. It easy to clear the valve stem with a zip tie too.
@@trailpimp6369 nice tip
How is this different from running tubes?
Especially if tubes are filled with a bit of sealant..
Weigh wisse it is the same..
You avoid pinch flats
Where I'm at there's tons of goat heads. With an inner tube you end up having to dismount the tire and patch the tube after every ride. Tubeless solves that.
@@PetterIvarsson But you get bead blow out and have to reseat it. Carry an extra tube an voila easy fix also if your getting pinch flats you should probably run a bit more pressure and check your rim for damage.
& that's it ?.....cool.
Cant wait for the future where we just have a solid rubber tire so it cant puncture
It possible use it without this liquid inside the tire?
Dinged my rim pretty bad today :)
This basically how I put tubeless tires on anyways without the liner
Been trying for two nights now to get this bloody tyre on. Snapped a tyre lever and Iâm frustrated as hell! I have no idea how you got that tyre on, let alone so quickly; Iâm just chasing it round the rim.
carpenter quick clamp and it holds the tire in the center of the rim
@@JR14562 thank you Johnđ
At the expense of oversimplifying things, inserts are basically solid inner tubes, am I right?
No, you're not.
No. The tyre still relies on the right air pressure to give a correct ride. The insert is partially rim protection, partly burp protection, and also gives a better compression ramp-up on hits especially. If you like to use lowish air pressure for high trye conformance
OK a month on so probably won't get read... BUT...
Is there any reason they don't make a tyre insert INSIDE an innertube.
This would help save snake biters....
The insert wouldn't have to be full tube diameter, just big enough to squash out into the sidewall on impact, keeping the tube from being pinched between object and rim... so could actually have an air gap between the top of the insert and the outer tyre mid tread making for a softer more pliable contact area for grip when not hitting a curb/rock etc.
You can fit a 2.5" tyre over an inflated innertube (Done this lots to prevent twists during inflation and in some cases is easier than a completely deflated tube installation).
I'm almost tempted to get a 26" insert
[yup.. I rock 26"ers... so get snake bites.. specially as the tyre co's hate us and stopped making 26" plus (ok except for Surly Knard 26 x 3.0 but I'm not disgustingly rich enough to afford them)].
get a 27.5 inner tube.
cut the insert and tube. Thread the insert into the tube and roll one end back a bit.
Glue the insert ends back together
Roll the tube back over itself and glue that with repair patch rubber cement. (Maybe even put a couple of the really thin repair patches over the seam as a gusset..
and I'll probably go stick a nail it in instead...
mmm ok so what about putting in some #Muc-Off Innertube Sealant
q8)
5:00 not sure why people question the soapy water. I have been fitting tubeless tyres to cars for years. It's just standard practice. And the water doesn't have to be warm.
Tubless tyres to cars??? Never seen someone fit innertubes to a car. Dumper or forklift yes, but never a car
@@rabc5959 They are hard to come by these days but they do exist and were the norm back in the day. Biasply tires tended to use them more then in a radial.
@@rabc5959 Same. Don't think tubes in car tires were standard since the 1970s.
I use an old thorn proof tube cut it down the middle wrap it around my tube and never get flats
You made me recall the mid 90âs when I used to cut of the wire bed of old tires and do something similar
whats a thorn proof tube ?
Rick: that's just inner tubes with extra steps
Just ditched these Vitoria insertsâŠMore pain than gain! Unless youâre into wobbly tires.
Agree inserts are generally overrated as a protective device. I occasionally use my cushcore on the back but think line choice, tire pressure, and casing are far more important.
#GMBNTech, why are some tires SO hard to get on the rim??? 45 minutes, 3 Pedros tire levers and a Specialized Butcher. I honestly didnât think I would ever get the tire on the rim. I had to go full caveman on it. Just unreasonableâŠ.
Yeah, doing with with a double down assegai wasn't as easy đ€Ł
This one was easy, I wanna se the real struggle.
35mm inner rim, dh casing and insert installation
need a hack, because I'm gonna loose my mind with the last 10cm of the tyre not wanting to fit
I have a tire insert. Its called an inner tube.
What an original and smart comment...
@@th_js But technically true
@@corail53 Not really. The inner-tube is the thing that holds the pressurised air in the tyre, whereas an insert doesn't do that.
I guess the soap doesnât interact with the sealant?
The bike is solid and my Ebike conversion went great. czcams.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Very smooth ride at 30mph with no problems (135 miles ridden so far). The picture is a bit deceiving - there is WAY less space in the center of the frame than it shows. The suspension connection takes up the entire thing. So I needed to attach my battery on the bottom of the frame and my controller on the top. Instructions for assembly were lacking but honestly it wasn't too hard to figure out even though I have very little bike knowledge. Watched some youtube videos on adjusting the disk brakes but that was it. Still, I am loving it and very happy with the purchase.
I don't recommend cush core, too heavy, feels flat tire and poor speed rolling. I had terrible accident using it while jumping on a downhill track. My opinion use a good tire with tubeless. Or use Mr Tuffy band with regular tubes.
Does this make for a more comfortable ride?
@@tonysadler5290 i think the method comes from the off road cars... lower pressures can give you more tire contact area with the ground and can be very useful in sand for example. This last couple of months i use more pressure to get up hill easily and found that going down with that pressure (35) results in a more solid ride in curves and i feel i have more grip than before (24) maybe cause the less deformation of the tyre. So yes use the right pressure
If you get a catastrophic failure on the trail requiring a tube, now youâve got this damn insert youâll need to take out and deal with.
Nah, you can ride home without a tube
@@McSchwabl yep--you'll be riding home instead of shredding with your bros. I'd rather shred with my bros.
But to be honest, normaly you can stick a bacon strip in
Also I destroyed my rims after one season, i will try the Cush core to Safe the next rims
This color combination of the valve stem and the hub hurts my eyes...
Tried many of them... the struggle to fit on the rim doesn't repay on the trail... the main problem of inserts is the type of tire you've been using them with, to install and remove them easily you have to use trail casings such exo for example, if you use them with dh casing tires will be a nightmare to install them, second problem the sealant, with rotation and friction between tire and insert the sealant will consolidate in lumps that will make unstable the tire and you have to remove the insert to resolve the problem, third problem is the snakebite the tire if you use a pressure too low and you're going to damage the bead and there's no way to fix the problem if you don't have an inner tube because the damage won't seal the tire on the rim.. I've had all af these issues with foam inserts, so I don't recommend that solution, Cuschcore is a good solution imho, but only if you are racing because install and remove it in case of emergency is really a pain in the ass... the best solution is a gravity casing tire, inserts are rubbish.
@@tonysadler5290 you use cushcore? The problems I've mentioned are with foam inserts, cuschcore is a different type and works really good, the problems are with foam inserts like the one
Shown in the video đ
Glad to hear a comment from someone with experience of using these. Thanks.
Piece of plastic damaging the tire.......as opposed to all the sharp rocks I hit every ride....maybe plastic is harder than solid rocksđ
Honestly, just buy Cushcoređ
Wrong...Tubolight...an Italian brand ! Doh. sorry mate
It took us 20 years to figure out how to get our tires tubeless and now weâre putting stuff back in our tires. đ€ŠđŒââïž
Clearly you don't ride hard and haven't ridden tire inserts.
Totally agree! It's funny because most of the riders at Rampage were running tubes :) I don't ride hard enough to use inserts.
@@bebright15000 That is funny, although when you have 200mm of travel and are landing huge drops, you don't need the benefits of low pressure lol
I'm old, so I'm struggling with the idea of tubeless, and inserts, why not just run tubes??
@@bebright15000 yeah - I was surprised they (Rampage riders) went tubed . Anyone have a clue why?
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Can I just use a pool noodle?
This was a pretty poor demonstration of how to fit a tyre. Forcing it over the rim like that without advising people that the bead needs to be in the well on the opposite side is likely to damage the bead. Tyres beads are not meant to stretch. The rim is designed with a well to allow the tyre to be manipulated over the wider section. I understand the insert is preventing some of this but you need to force the tyre under it.
As for not riding the bike after adding sealant but giving it a shake. Really? Go ride the damn thing and spread the sealant properly.
I usually love your videos too đ
I did learn why the valves are different though so Iâll take that. Thanks.
when you need a video to insert a insert lol if you cant change a inner tube, this is going to be just as bad for you lol
Just go buy a tube
Pffffffttt that cushcore is a gimmick, its quite heavy, is very expensive (often more than the tyre itself) avoid!
Why not just grow less lazy, or less irritated, when sporting and obtaining a puncture? It's all in the game. When you pro this sport, I can understand, but for most of us, enjoying our bikes...a puncture is something that will happen. And messing around with milk and or foams, come on guys, there is worse things in life. So you take out the tube, and add in milk and foam. Great work???!?! @.o This is super silly.