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- Discover the origins of Jagdpanther with Curator David Willey and learn more about this German Tank Destroyer.
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00:00 | Intro
00:22 | How was it used
14:00 | Features
#Jagdpanther #tankchats #DavidWilley
Hello, Tank Nuts! Enjoy discovering all about Jagdpanther with Curator David Willey.
Cheers Legend 👍🏻
David helped a lot of people get through the Lockdowns of the last 2 years thanks from me m8 from Australia 🇦🇺
Looking forward to tankfest :)
I wiah I could got to the museum but sadly its not in the US
These videos are always great 👍🏻
Probably one of the most beautiful tank hunters ever built.
ironically the one in the tank museum has the ugliest paint job
Total agreement.
@@scottp4357 💀
Disagrees in StuG III.F
@@Erwin_Von_Heidenheim lol that box
They are currently going through a total rebuild of one of these at the Australian Armour & Artillery Museum in Queensland
Non running and no interior though, I think?
Maybe they’ll give it a better paint scheme.
They have a great YT channel. New episodes every Wednesday!
The long term aim, I believe, is to get it running but getting a suitable engine is likely to be the biggest issue.
not a rebuild, a new build. a lot of collected parts and the main hull parts were unused found on the site of a tank afctory
My father was a driver of the jagpanther having driven the nashorn in Russia transferred to sennelager for training on the jagpanther then sent to France.His unit was H Pz Jg.Abt 655,the tank was disabled just out side eindoven Holland in 1944 where my father became a p.o.w.He did not talk much about it ,one quote he told me was they only had 3 shells left as the bins were full of drinks and food.
Outside of eindhoven? I live 5 minutes from eindhoven. Do you know the location? I could go there and make some pictures for you
@@Ray-lf1eothis is a f awesome comment🙏🇩🇪🪖😎
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One problem for Germany
during WW-1 had been the nourishing,
despite still being in control of the vast Polish prairie territories.
That had been considered one of the major causes for the population getting sick of war fatigue.
Was he a naz i?
Whatever you think of it from a practical military perspective, you have to admit, that is one sexy tank
Hell yeah, it’s like a super sized Hetzer
It was one of my favorite models ot build.
@@Icetea-2000 Or is Hetzer like a tiny little Jagdpanther ?!??
@@andrewwoodhead3141 You’re kinda right, they were developed at the same time and the Jagdpanther rolled into mass production two months before the Hetzer
@@Icetea-2000 I'm not sure you can call it ''mass production'' though,.... 🤔
The most interesting chat yet. I met David t 2 weeks ago lovely man and very generous with his time.
Thanks you.
Very knowledgeable armor historian.
I am sorry but I do not understand.your comment on my comment. I found the talk on the tactical use of the vehicle very interesting and I met him a couple of weeks before?
My Grandfather used to drive the Jagdpanthers from the MIAG to the shipping Place in Braunschweig.
When you see this vehicle in person it just looks so modern and capable
My favorite AFV of the war. Absolutely love the design of this thing.
Agreed, it’s aesthetically pleasing. Absolutely timeless.
Agreed its absolutely beautiful and timeless, sleek and rough
Beautifully brutal.
Jpz IV/70 for the aesthetic win. =)
I had the pleasure to see one close up at Munster, what a beauty.
Lived there for 11 years!!
I met David at the museum, possibly on the day he shot this. Honestly so down to earth, chatted with me for ages and was just a really nice chap.
Thank you for the correct pronounciation of my hometown Braunschweig as well as MIAG.(wich stands for Mühlen Industrie AG, a company that originally produced equipment for Mills(=Mühlen))
Jawohl!.
Don't worry he'll be shot at dawn the blackadder firing squad are on the way. mien herr
Gorgeous tank, with its cousin the Panther, the best looking tanks of WWII.
I think the King Tiger with the so called 'Porsche' turret was the best looking tank of WW2.
This was one of the first 1/35th scale models I ever built and it's still one of my favorite AFVs
I got it 1/72 scale. Sleek vehicle.
It must have been a nice project.
Also my very first 1/35 and very first Tamiya kit I ever built way back in 1968.
I built a couple by hand, converting from Airfix Panther kits. They were the envy of my wargaming friends at the time.
Trumpeter makes a fantastic kit! Either full interior or as curbside
Looking at that Jagdpanther's 3-tone camo scheme, all I can think of is, "Mmmmmmm deadliest mocha latte EVER".
Definitely the best tank chat! A lot of information, brilliantly presented and included the reports from the front they much appreciated!
The Jagdpanther is referred to as a new kind of Sturmgeschutz in the first documents.
It is proposed to give it the same radio equipment as the Sturmgeschutz based on the Panzer III, namely the Fu.G.16.
But the evidence says it went into service with the Panzer intercom and radio.
All five of the crew are connected to the intercom via headsets.
At 14:42 you can see the socket boxes for the loader's headset (extreme left) and the gunner's (below the grenade launcher).
At 14:31 you can glimpse the driver's socket box, attached flat on top of the corner of the bin.
At 14:49 you can see the empty frame that held the radio set, tucked into the front right corner of the vehicle, beside the MG. But that's the second position of the radio set. Originally it was put on top of the large ammunition bin in lower right of the image.
Thanks for the info!
Secondary position, or revised position?
@@Scapestoat Revised position. The design of the vehicle was changed for ergonomic reasons.
It's amazing how much detail the narrator has at the top of his mind. Like an encyclopedia.
Can never get enough of these lovely cats 🐈
A quick message to Londoners (and the others of course) - if you want to see Jagdpanther tank destroyer just visit Imperial War Museum in London. They cut off side armour so you can see fighting compartment.
I'm pretty sure it got moved to Duxford
Yeah it's now at Duxford, I saw it there last year
@@dylanmilne6683 Oh I wasn't aware of it!
Agree about Duxford. Unless they have moved it back to London, I went to IWM London about 10yrs ago, I asked where the Jagdpanther was, it had been moved to Duxford.
The IWM London underwent a big refurb a few years ago. Maybe it was moved around that time. I always used to love seeing it when it was there though.
I was at the museum at the weekend, had a great time even the missus enjoyed it. Thanks to all and thoroughly recommended, more family friendly than you might expect. 👍
A very formidable looking tank destroyer. The Allies were fortunate that it came too late in the war to be used the way that it had been designed.
As an apprentice in the late 60's I built the Tank Museum an L60 Chieftain engine for display purposes. Every bit was cr*p, it had to be but looked perfect. It took me a month scrounging odd parts but after painting by hand I was rather proud of the beast. I went on holiday and saw 'my' engine. It had crisp packets in the exhaust manifold pipes. The next time I went it had gone. All I can say is bo**ocks, what a waste of my time. I also got involved (as workshop manager by then) with a Comet tank. I didn't bother finding bits, it was simply passed on. Remember the FVRDE Bovington ?
Excellent video.
An interesting little known fact, not mentioned here. If you look at pictures of Jagdpanthers in WW2, they seem to usually have their tracks on back to front unlike Panthers. You can tell by the direction of the chevrons.
Presumably to back away quicker after firing.
Great video as per usual!
A few peeps really don't understand that a mm diameter size is independent to the breech size/design.
Some say "oh the 76mm is only 1mm bigger than the old Sherman 75mm", without seeing that the physical round (projectile + casing) is nearly double the weight
Oh definitely caliber doesn't equate power / size of round. If I remember correctly the US 76mm is actually 75mm, they just called it that to prevent supply line confusion.
It's like 7.62mm. You got;
7.62x51mm NATO
7.62x39mm AK47 round.
7.62x54R PKM/Dragunov round etc
Non are interchangeable, contrary to what a former infantry mate thought.🙂
Chamber dictates the round, bore size dictates what will go down the barrel.
@@R.Sole88109 and technically, the .30-30, .30-06 and the .308win and 7.62 Tokarev are also 7.62mm bullets, but different weight, case length, and case volume.
The last one beeing a pistol round!
@@SonsOfLorgar That 7.62 Tok is a surprising performer. I saw a video years ago of that round penetrating a PASGT helmet.
The original 88 was a .44 special. The KWK 43 is a .44 magnum
30-06 vs .50 BMG
The most beautiful AFV ever gone to battle!!!
Keeping the feline mood, the Jagdpanther was like Julie Newmar in attractiveness ...
This tank first came to my attention in the old Commando comics i read growing up. This was the tank that started my obsession with military vehicles ❤️❤️❤️
I had a great childhood with these comics 😍
Me too. Plus the Warlord comic - anybody remember 'Tank Hunters'?
that is my favorite German tank destroyer, I find it majestic. convenient, low profile, so the easier it is to hide, it's transmission was better and lighter than the panther, sloped armor on the front could ping a few rounds, it would penetrate everything the allies had, and ofcourse, IT WAS RELIABLE,. It was better than the Jagdtiger overall.
only problem, it was being produced at the same time with the panther and it had to deal with the Allied bombing campaign, so it was rare to find them.
For me this had always been the coolest of the German cats.
Very interesting background information. A great video. The only challenge is the delivery that is confused and convoluted. The second time that I watched it, it was, finally, clear.
I like how his voice and how he delivered each word
It's so clean it is so easy to understand.
Jagdpanter - Who knew that a tank design could actually be beautiful.
Great ambush platform this JagdPanther was. Imagine being on the recieving end of that!!! No thank you. Very well done vid, as per usual.
As usual, fully entertaining and informative. David must be up for an OBE for his lockdown production. Good man, starting to look like David Fletcher's younger brother. Good show all round. Cheers
David doesn't dawdle and babble about like some British experts on the subject. David, like you for your concise reports.
Superb report. I especially like the quotes by a German Officer on tactical employment. Thanks for another great production.
What a machine!!!! She's an absolute beast but also a beautiful piece of engineering.... I love her!!
So many memories... I joined the army as a Junior Leader and trained across the road from the Tank Museum, way back in the mid-1960s. I was wandering around the museum every chance I got. My regiment, 2RTR, was the 2nd unit to be equipped with the MkII Chieftain which was top of the line at the time - and it struck me that the later WWII German tanks on display at the museum, together with the likes of the Jagdpanther, were the ones that 'appeared' to be on a par with our new tanks.
My favorite tank, still have my 1/35th scale model, from Tamiya I think it was bult around 1980/81. The electric engine no longer works and is missing a few pieces from the wheels but is still intact.
Saw a Jagdpanther in the Imperial war museum i London about 10 yrs ago. An impressive beast, so large, and it was not even the largest, which was the Jagdtiger. It had a portion of it's side cut out so you could see inside. Man, what a cramped working environment...no hydraulic damped seats there, it was 4 or 5 small metal seat-plates on a metal pole, without backrests. Must have been hell to sit in those cans.
Seeing the Osprey book on the Greman attack on the Maginot Line in 1940, it's a salutory experience to see the photos of the destructive power of the 88 against fortifications.
that was the l/56, this was armed with the l/71 which was way more powerful 1130m/s vs780m/s
If I was forced to fight in WW II but could choose ANY armoured fighting vehicule it would be what is the most beautiful as well. Capable of knocking anything out and then scooting away at a good speed to prevent over runs yet also great armor. My #1 choice
As long as it doesn't break down or run out of fuel or receive mission kill damage from artillery - yeah its a beaut of a vehicle. It's quite ironic that the initial German advantages as per the Battle of France - use of radio comms to enable tank units to work together in an efficient manner becomes a weakness later in the war with the allied development of electronic warfare.
It seems that when all of the stars aligned this vehicle could cause a hell of a lot of damage, but these instances didn't occur frequently or regularly enough to swing the tide of battle.
I can’t believe there hadn’t been a tank chat about the Jagdpanther yet! I just assumed it had been one of the first. Just shows how much there is to talk about
When I was a kid making my Tamiya model tanks, this was by far my favourite to make..next was the Churchill
As much as I love the Jagdpanther, I would hope you would do a presentation on the Jagdpanzer IV Sd.Kfz 162 because hardly anyone makes any content about that vehicle
The_Chieftain has already done one on the JPzIV for your consumption, if you want to watch it (iirc it's a 2-part series).
@@zanaduz2018 Thanks
One frankenjagdpanther now in Cairns. Non runner, but can’t wait to get up there in August Tankfest to check it out.
The Australian Armour and Artillery Museum. Get your self there and poke fun at the Sentinels’ hull gun.
And see the largest display of antique and galvanised buckets on show in the Southern Hemisphere.
It's 20 mins from Kuranda where I live.
Aside from the design issues, practicalities, production and operational history etc. it is one of the most spectacular looking armoured vehicles of all time. Few things look more lethal or efficient - even if this wasn't exactly the case. Oh, and, great presentation too! Thanks.
I think it probably was a efficient weapon in and of itself (well... after they finally fixed the final drive). But war is about combined arms and teamwork. By the time it was deployed the Germans were disadvantaged in almost every way. Too few tanks, infantry, and artillery. Almost no air support, need for radio silence because Allied superiority in artillery and air support. Not enough fuel. Always retreating, so even lightly damaged vehicles had to be abandoned.
It's just gorgeous
Interesting to hear wireless DF as a real time anti-tank capability.
I agree, I had no idea that Direction Finding was that well developed. Think of the organization of the DF unit and the coordination with artillery and all that would be required back then! Very impressive.
Indeed. German radios gave them such an advantage against the Russians and French. Kudos to the Brits(Americans too?) for figuring out how to use them against them!
@@whirving Indicative of the Western Allies approach to all arms warfare and Y.
oh i didnt know that the long 88 also used more propellent in the shells, thought it was just the longer barrel increasing velocity
They did both, to get maximum hitting power. The case for this gun is quite huge; the long barrel allows all that energy to fully extracted.
Agreed, it’s one of those things that makes perfect sense once you see it.
The much vaunted 88 in the Tiger one actually had less penetrating power than the Panther's 75 ... Tiger one uses the shell on the left, the Panther's shell looked much like the one on the right used in the Tiger two and Jagdpanther , very high energy/muzzle velocity .. Jagdpanther, my favorite tank destroyer and just a nicely laid out vehicle
@@donbeary6394 Cheers. I always wondered why the Panther 76.2 was so effective. It didn't make sense that it was simply because of a longer barrel.
Don Beary
That was true up to 2,000 metres. Beyond that the Tiger I's gun caught up with the Panther's and actually had superior penetrating power over 2,500 metres.
Very good presentation of this formidable vehicle, as a scale model builder I built the Tamiya 1/35 Jagdpanther a few years ago and its one of my favorite display pieces, this is a great model kit with good detail and builds well for any modeler thats interested
Awesome. Greetings from Australia. Can’t wait to get back to the UK
The concept of a tank destroyer is just so cool. I wonder if a self propelled howitzer thats optimized for straight shooting with added armor would be usefule today.
Finally a chat on an iconic vehicle again! Been waiting for like 3 months.
Jagdpanther looks so slick.
8:34 - "About 138cm..." From 80mm starting? David confirms the German's use of the Occult. :)
*Slaps tank-destroyer*
This tank-destroyer can hunt* so many Panthers!
I love these tank chats with David Willey, he is such a good narrator and he is my favourite narrator.
I visited the Weald Foundation a few years ago and they were kind enough to let me inside their Jagdpanther. It's a beast of a machine but intensely claustrophobic inside. I was imagining the carnage if the crew found themselves sharing that space with the business end of an AT shell.
2:20 Another great example of why same caliber doesn't mean interchangeable would be the german 7.5 rounds for the Panzer 4, as compared to the long 75 on the Panther series.
As a ThyssenKrupp employee: Krupp is pronounced more like you said "Funker" :-) Great video by the way.
Another brilliant video from my favourite CZcams channel! This has always been one of my favourite AFVs, a very good looking vehicle.
Aways educational chats by David Willey, were the Allies Tank, Artillery and infantry units aware of and briefed how to engage the Jagdpanther, like they were for Tiger and Panther before D Day.
first saw it in world of tanks. looked it up and loved it. its one of my favorite tanks, behind the Tiger 1.
I consider this as the most formidable tank destroyer (vehicle) the Allies and Soviets had to face on the battlefield. Stealthy, armoured and absolutely lethal.
One if not the favourite vehicle of the war.
Stealthy?! Its bloody enormous.
@@JohnyG29 Camouflage is an artform :)
Also, hedges, forests etc.
@@JohnyG29 it’s very easy to hide though.
My favourite ‘tank’. I used to have the Tamiya model of it when I was a kid
Build another👍 It’s great fun.
@@PeteCourtier modelling isn't for me and got plenty of other projects to keep me busy. A great hobby though
@@Trident_Spinmaster I got back into it a couple of years ago. But like you say, there’s plenty of other things in life. My wife still shakes her head when I make engine noises when I proudly show her a completed kit😂
Love the paint scheme, makes it look like a work of art you'd see in an art gallery, beautifully done.
Excellent. Love these David Willey videos
This was the favorite model tank of my youth. In 1974 I built a 1/35 Tamiya Jagdpanther with powered tracks controlled by a wired remote. I even airbrushed the camo stripes over the mustard yellow. The sight of this beast brings me back.
One of the best tank chats yet! Thank you so much for putting this together...love all the extra information in these longer-format videos.
Another superb presentation David... Nothing beats a Friday lunchtime when one of your videos are released - thanks again
Interesting vehicle. Great commentary. Did not know the allies finished building some of them
Best tank destroyer of the war hands down.
Su-100 ....
What a great way for an ex-tanker to spend the day, the Bovington Tank Museum.
glad you did this one
Jagdpanther! Liked before even watching!
Superb coverage of an awesome beast.
Incredible tank........great video and very informative
Thank you so much for this brilliant, entertaining and educating presentation.
Absolutely fascinating analysis. Overflowing with knowledge and insight.
Excellent Tank Chat, thanks. I could listen to David Willey talking tanks all day long.
Outstanding presentation- keep up the great work 👍
I loved it!!!! Great commentary.... You guys are the "Tank Scholar Gods" Excellent commentary...
I love these super informative videos. Thank you! I just wish that there would be video of the interior of the tank you have. I don't care if it's been restored or not.
Fantastic David. Thank you.
Exceptional presentation, David.
Smashing chat on a fascinating vehicle.
Great episode! 19:53 onwards, nothing much has changed with fighting a tank, these lessons are obviously forgotten in the current conflict!
Agree.
I was a platoon leader of 4 106mm recoiless rifles on jeeps in the 80s in Taiwan. The basic tactic was never stay on the same spot after two shots fired. Always have multiple firing locations pre scouted and prepared before the battle.
@@DC_10 Toyota pickups?
Another excellent presentation, thanks. 😁👌👌👏👏👏❤️
Beautiful tank chat guys!
A fantastic, informative presentation by David. Really interesting to hear the field report following their introduction to service in 1944.
Excellent video, thanks!
Fascinating! Thanks for the history lesson.
Outstanding! Thank you!
Fascinating really interesting, thank you David
Great Job by David Willey!
Outstanding video and presentation.
I love mister David Willey's Tank Chats! These are so insightfull and interestingly presented that I could watch them over and over! Wonderfull job!
Very knowledgeable and well spoken chap.
Absolutely wonderful presentation on the jagdpanther. Very informative, educational, and interesting. The camouflage pattern of the vehicle depicted is quite unique. The Germans definitely were innovative on their use of camo schemes. On a side note, the jagdpanther had a decent range regarding its fuel.
I love these Chats - broadening my knowledge
One of my favorite tanks. It was the first tank I got a mark of excellence on in world of tanks 😻