Jagdpanther vs. Churchill - Normandy 1944
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- čas přidán 7. 11. 2019
- Find out how three enormous Jagdpanthers surprised a battalion of Scots Guards Churchills during Operation Bluecoat, Normandy 1944, with terrifying results.
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Considering the speed of the Churchill, it's amazing it out ran any infantry at all.
This story seems to be typical of a lot of tank engagements in WWII - heavy German armour inflicts high damage but then they abandon their vehicles for relatively minor reasons because they lack support. Truly, logistics wins out in warfare - but few want to read a book on that over a book on heavy Panzers!
The advances in tank technology from 1939 thru 1945 are absolutely mind blowing.
The fact that you pump out videos with absolute quality everyday just amazes me. Keep up the work.
It's an indication of his incredible dedication, research, and intellect...
[Thugz] Thedopefries , the quality is amazing, why these aren't on TV I just don't know
top 5 chanel youtub.
@@TheSpritz0 he's a fulltime historien.. he's in several dukumetery on Netflix too
...and he doesnt even monetize his videos! or youtube did that for him :(
Seen Jagdpanther and clicked so fast.
Maybe if you're good, you'll get a new mouse for Christmas.
New maus?
The Churchill was an infantry support tank, which was a role it did surprisingly well and of course a platform for many 'funnies', the Jagdpanther was a specialised ambush tank killer, in an engagement like this the result was not unexpected.
I feel it should be pointed out that the 8,8cm gun on the Jagdpanther and King Tiger was not the same as the famous 88mm, the one that is usually seen in the tall multi-purpose mount with a large rectangular shield, or on the Tiger I. The latter was the 8,8cm Flak 18, 36 and 37, with the Tiger mounted one being the KwK (literally tank cannon) 36, all these guns maintaining a 56 caliber barrel. The gun on the Jagdtpanther and King Tiger on the other hand was never a multi-purpose gun, but was only built as an anti-tank gun (the Pak 43) or a tank gun (the KwK 43), and had a significantly longer 71 caliber barrel. The KwK/Pak 43 also fired a much more powerful shell, measuring 88mm by 882mm in length, compared to the 571mm length of the Flak 18/36/37 and KwK 36. This meant that the Tiger I's gun would achieve a muzzle velocity of about 820 m/s, compared to about 1130 m/s of the Jagtpanther/King Tiger's gun.
For comparsion:
The Tiger I couldn't penetrate the Churchill VII's frontal armor (hull and turret) at almost any range (when firing APCBC), while the King Tiger/Jagdtpanther could penetrate the frontal armor of a Churchill VII at 2 kilometers. The tanks engaged here were Churchill IV's, with barely half the armor of the Mark VII's, so these Jagdpanthers at these ranges were probably able to blow holes straight through the entire tank (if the bursting charge in the shells didn't go off, of course). The KwK 43 was the most insane tank/anti-tank gun deployed during WWII, and probably one of the most, if not the most, powerful anti-tank guns for firing regular (non-saboted) ammunition ever made.
Žiga Auer Awesome information. Thank you. There was a lot there I didn’t know that I didn’t know. You learn something new every day. Thanks again.
Emprahs Finest Well not much except that the KwK 44 was the 128mm gun on the Jagttiger, the Pak was the field gun/anti tank gun version. Had a much shorter barrel, and not as much propellent (relative to the shell diameter and mass) as the Pak/KwK 43, so the muzzle veocity was much lower, around 950 m/s. But the main problem with that gun was simply that the field gun version was stupidly heavy for AT use, needing the heavy Sd.Kfz 8 or 9 halftracks to move them, which were already needed for moving the heavy artillery, and this resulting in them being cumbersome to deploy in a fashion thats necessary for AT guns (eg certain flexibility and ability to react quickly to changing battlefield situations)
The other use was the Jagtiger, which was just a mechanical mess. So in essence the gun was never really succesfully deployed, even though it did put even the 8,8/71 to shame, especially at long range.
It was the magnum version of the old 88, same caliber, but much more propellant. It was the German equivalent of the post war British 20 pounder or the Soviet late war 100mm that equipped frontline tanks like the Centurion and T-55 and regarded as excellent until the 1960s.
@@ChaplainDMK Thanks for the detailed information. Very interesting.
Where do you get your figures from? The frontal plate armor of the Hull of a Churchill was between 102-152mm FLAT.. no angle. The Turret 89mm to 152mm front, again FLAT no Angle. The 8.8 cm KwK 36 using the following respectively. Pzgr.39 (APCBC) @ 2000m can penetrate 83mm at 30* degree angle and Pzgr.40 (APCR) @ 2000 m can penetrate 110mm @ 30* degrees of angle. Thomas L. Jentz. The figures are even better at closer range, and although the Churchill has massive armor.. its flat, one flaw the Germans corrected with the Tiger I to the Tiger II. Panzer Mark IV could knock out Churchill's on the flank with relative ease.
It's funny but the Churchill tank is visually a lot like Churchill himself.
"Alright lads, staff meeting. Round up the tanks. First order of business, we need to address why I hear boss music."
No wonder the Germans ran out of resources, they were clearly spamming gold ammo.
That jagdpanther in the beginning was beautiful.
The video the clip comes from: czcams.com/video/QCCCKiQWMRM/video.html
Another cool video: czcams.com/video/Qo96H8bf_R0/video.html
Its in German hands/Bundeswehr/WTD i think Koblenz , here a Vid about that JP
czcams.com/video/QCCCKiQWMRM/video.html
This Jagdpanther tank is located at the Wehrtechnische Dienststelle Trier. The chassis number is 300099, while the hull number is 300185. It was transferred from Saumur to be completely restored by the Heeresinstwerk of Darmstadt.
www.maquetland.com/article-phototheque/12229-jagdpanther-spate-treves
Who needs mainstream TV when there is this to watch instead?. All these videos by Mark Felton are first rate. Personally, I can’t get enough of these videos!.
I have a book on Tigers in which the author, a Churchill tanker himself, describes how confident they were in their thick armor when they got to North Africa, until they saw some Churchills that had been shot full of holes by the new German Tiger tank. "The Tiger Tanks" by Peter Gudgin.
Ah the Jagdpanther, a personal fav of mine. Gonna be a great vid as always
Funnily enough I thought the exact same thing without even pressing play .😁
Me too, it has a good gun, and ideal for ambush
I love it as well. Perfect balance of everything for ambushes. They should've never charged through!
Maximilian L ...4...👍🏼
It looks so freakin' cool, I love the design
Although on paper the Jagdpanther appears superior to any of the previously mentioned versions of self-propelled 8.8cm Pak43, it was the thinly armored moderately powered Nashorn that proved to have a significantly more effective combat history. Nashorn formations had higher kill rates and lower losses than either the Elefant or Jagdpanthers. In addition, their reliability stood head and shoulders above either of the heavier armored tank destroyers having on average 85% operational at any given time compared to the Jagdpanther's average of 53% or the Elefant's lowly 37%.
Virgin Churchill against Chadpanther.
Nice!
10 virgins got penetrated with that pak43 that day XD
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Me: I AM SPEED
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@uncletigger The Panther could reach a top speed of nearly 50 KM/ph or about 30 Mph.
That is a very decent speed for a WW2 tank.
@@annelisemeier283 kachigga
Kachoo
did you do it? Having a Jadpanther?
yes...
What did it cost?
11 Churchill
Jagdpanther: Kills entire platoon
Tracks: No U
The Jagdpanther was a brilliant machine that had amazing potential. The only problem was it was introduced far too late in the war to have any real impact.
To us it wasn't a problem ....to us it was a miracle.
I actually found a blueprint for the Jagdpanther II the other day, and must say it is damn beautiful, even if only on paper.
Like, actually found it in physical form?
+ P K
Unfortunately, no. I wish that was the case. I actually found it online while browsing for something unrelated on Yandex using its reverse image search. Between Google and Yandex, the latter usually has much better images and much higher quality too. Much of my more unusual or rarer finds, I found on Russian sites--some of which were dodgy, yes. I wish CZcams had a feature that allowed me to upload images. I could upload it to Imgur and provide a link if you'd like.
I sorta prefer the Jagdpanther I, I think the Jagdpanther II looks really rest heavy
Really? Where?
Is it the real thing or just a replica?
Love your stuff, just one suggestion, when you show a map could you highlight the place your referring to?
The Jagd could literally reach 50 kph
yes those static maps are not oriented well and a more automated map would be pleasant to understand in the brief viewing period.
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My Grandfathers Battalion, he was there that day.
www.google.com/maps/place/76790+Les+Loges,+France/@49.0432165,-0.793112,417m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x47e01592d33fb60b:0x40c14484fb67c60!8m2!3d49.698586!4d0.283013
destroy a whole tank, which in 1940 times were made basically "fully by hands" due a track damage, my god, that's a pain. Specially if we are talking of a Germany that in late 1944 was with low ressources and every single vehicle was important.
PS: I loved your video, very informative, thank you for posting and greetings from Brazil.
Thanks Mark and greetings from Brisbane, Australia. Thank you so much for producing these excellent videos, they are so informative and provide a lot of detail on military matters that most of us were never aware of. Please keep up this fine work Sir, your subscribers all appreciate it.
Jagdpanther vs. Churchill = Probably not a good time for the Churchill.
It's more complicated question. It's the same situations as at eastern fronts. Germans had too few and too varioius panzers compared to the allies. The numbers of shermans, churcills and T-34's overpowerd the nazi panzer, which didn't have good logistics behind them. Nazis were too fond of engineering and trying many versions compared to the massproduced allied tanks. It was bad leadership from the german side.
Yikes!
You are leaving us "hanging" for the next story.
Well done Dr. Felton!
Mark, as always, well researched and well put together video. As a WWII history buff, I really enjoy the bits of history you post. Greetings from Mexico Amigo.
Thanks for adding "polish" many forgets about this forces.
God I love the Jagdpanther such a powerful design. Awesome vid as always!
ahhhh
the Jagdpanther
another one of my favorites
thanks Mark .....
The Jadgpanther was so rare that only one short snippet of German film footage of jadgpanthers on the move exists from WW2.
Another of many phenomenal videos from Dr. Felton.
A fascinating video and really thoroughly researched. Excellent! I did notice that the marching guards at 2:14, captioned as 'Scots Guards', were actually Welsh Guards, although the band leading them were Scots Guards. Grandad was a WO2 in the Welsh Guards and would have hated to have been lumped in with the Scots!
>well equipped
Literally had no fuel
>Brand new state of the art machines
Too big and over complicated to do quick repairs on the battlefield
Mark another outstanding effort , you never cease to amaze , bring it on !
These videos are so informative. Thanks very much Mark. Much appreciated
I was watching a documentary about the Grenadiers (mainly because of the band and I'm a trumpet player), and they were training for their performance in front of Buckingham Palace. Then one guy said, "We'll march for the queen and her guests, and then quickly back to the barracks. Our flight to Afghanistan leaves tonight." And it was then I realized that these funny looking dudes (I'm an American lol) stomping around the palace, actually go serve in combat. And not only do they serve in combat, they're seen as some of the best of the best in the British Army. It does make sense that the Queen would have her greatest units defending her. Greetings from across the pond!
Sounds like that lad needs a refresher course in OpSec.
Most videos on CZcams I only actually listen-to, while playing computer games or working on projects.
Yours are so rich in well chosen footage and photos that they are just about the only videos I actually watch.
Thank you always, for such excellent content!
I built a model of a jagdpanther some years back. Every time I see or hear of them in action it makes me glad I have the model. I minored in history in college and sometime wish I had Majored in it. Your videos are not only informative, but very interesting as well. Thanks for another great video
Mark is the best on this type of topic.
Totally authentic. Thank you.
That footage at 3:05 has to have been sped up. I can't imagine a Churchill going that fast.
jermster17 each frame is 15 minute intervals😂
Looks like it is. You can see it on the exhaust smoke.
I wondered about that too. Looks way faster than 15 Km/h to me.
@@bv5998 Neither can War Thunder players. By the time you get into battle, the game has already been decided.
and this is how the British won the war; ten tanks in 2 minutes.
These stories are absolutely EPIC.
As always, great and thorough content! Thanks for the post!
Once again, a very insightful, well-down video. Many thanks you for posting. I will continue watching.
Dear Mark after watching a lot of your videos, I took my family to farnborough fast museum , which you mentioned in your videos as a place where British used to asses airplanes, simply great museum highly recommended, lots of passionate people, would love to spend there all day, but with two year old son it’s quite difficult, although he loved running around and switching on rotor blades on display, keep up with your productions , they are very interesting and you just can’t stop after one video, kind regards
Thrilled to discover this channel. Fascinating videos and wonderfully done. A real gem.
Love the way he puts the sound effects in the video just to make it more lively!
Great video once again Mark. I really enjoy them. Thank you for making them.
This is what happens when the Germans don't have support&maintenance units to repair tanks
They didn't have anything big enough to tow them & from what I've seen on other channels, overcomplicated engineering meant field maintenance was very time consuming or even impossible. Lucky for the free world they couldn't get their act together.
Most Jagdpanthers were lost to technical failure than to combat!
Also the design with the wheels overlapping each other..had to remove more than one to repair lol...what's the German word for #$%^#%^%#^?
Kurdiatcha Man fritz what’s ze state of ze transmission? Zits what! Hans fetch za Luger!
@@q9920867 And lucky for Russia.
Built a beautiful Tamiya model of the Jagdpanther in the '70s, one of my favourites!
Top notch video as always! Keep up your amazing work!
The quality of your videos are fantastic! Thanks for the content!
Beautiful tanks. Thank you!
Perfect timing just finished and my favourite German tank video.
And in normandie a place I recommend anyone to visit if your into
Learning about the second world war. Excellent again and again 😁👍
Fantastic documentary. Thank you!
Love your history lessons. Keep them coming.
When that intro music starts I always get goosebumps
Glad to see you didn’t include paid advertising within the film
Yeah, he is one of the rare ones and i love it!
Why? The man's gotta earn a living
Always great research and footage. Thanks.
Glad I found your channel. I’m a huge world war history buff and your content is awesome!
Great video as always.
Having the element of surprise is a great factor in winning the battle. You can pick the moment of combat. An example is the M88 Greyhound that ran behind a Tiger tank and shot into the soft rear.
"Soft":80mm
As an old US Army tanker, I really like your Tank on Tank stories, Thanks Mark :)
Great work Mark. I know the subject of my next Jagdpanther build now.
Great vide Mr. Felton. You continued to put on such interesting and well researched your programs. Many thanks for the entertainment and the facts of battles of WW2.
I love your content.. DAMN THOSE RAW FOOTAGE
My favourite WW2 tank, the Churchill, I had a toy one back in the 60s in a game called 'Tank Tactics' Great channel by the way.
Great video as usual. Many thanks Mark!!
Simply excellent work!
German military and German vehicles were so beautiful. I come from Poland so I have some animosity towards the Germans of course, however I see beauty where I see beauty and it's beautiful in their stuff.
just imagine the horror of seeing one of these Jagdpanthers while siting in a churchill or sherman and knowing that if it sets its sights on you, you will most likely die, just like that and there is nothing you can do about it, truly terrifying in my opinion.
Good action by the Panzer Jaegers!
Great vid! Well done Mark Felton!
Mark, you do an excellent job =) Thank you!
Always thought that Guardsmen would make bad Tankies due to generally being 6 foot +
Bremer's Ghost :- Good comment.
The Soviet tank crews were all small men, though I don't think the same can be said for the German crews.
They tend to leave the old bearskin hats off which helps. Though thinking about it now you have to wonder what the Germans would have made of it. Hans, I can see the British tanks and it look like they are being driven by bears.
Good job the guards of Frederick the Great did not fight there. they would have had difficulty getting inside the Maus.
Having sat in a church as a 6+ft man, trust me, they'd fit. Those things were roomy as hell compared to soviet tanks.
Guardsmen come in all shapes and sizes. Tallest on the Right and Left Flanks with shorter Guardsmen in the middle. I was 5, 10” and was in the middle lol
@@Shloomy_Shloms and then the tanks with brass band appears...
The Churchill at 3:30 is a Churchill mk7 with 152mm of armor on the front of the hull and 95mm on the side of the hull and turret
Many thanks for your videos Mark !
The amount of information in your videos is astounding! Bravo!!
😊👍🏻
I really like that clip with all those Churchill's driving down.
The allies was a total air control, that had made the real difference.
Zunino Point taken,that had made the real difference. What about if the Germans didn't have an eastern front? that had made the real difference.
As always Top vid my friend Mark keep it up. :)
Great video...all this amazing footage!!!!!!
I'd love to see you do a top 5 tanks at the tank museum. Great vid as always
Those German tanks are absolutely frightening, I’d shit my pants if I saw one engaging on battle
Thank you, Mark!
A Felton Mark I.
lol
Great work Mark keep them coming your videos are amazing buddy.
Many people appreciate your videos with their pretty high production values and clear narration. Please can you do more longer ones, I like to settle down for about 90 minutes to these documentaries. many are too short with dramatic music and American voices. Cheers to you
Hey Mark. Thanks for the quality content. Your German is really good btw. Almost no accent.
Great video as always!
Wait so they were 10 klicks ahead of their infantry support, were discovered dismounted, received incoming artillery fire for ten minutes, followed by a two minute armored thrust that culminated in the destruction of ~80% of the unit...and they advanced to capture two of the three Jagdpanzers? Incredible.
Very impartial very factual nice voice, excellent pronunciation.
Exceptional channel sir hats off to you. Don't usually consider paying on patreon or an alternative (patreon can be a little dogmatic)
Awesome as always!
Great content m8, loved it 👍
I think this is a great history tank Lesson about german gen 3 tanks that they are deadly in the battlefield but are really bad outside of the battle, and thats what most people forget about tanks. You did an amzing job on this video
You can have the biggest gun and the thickest armour. But you lose a track and that's it.
@@bigblue6917 ja shit the transmission is dead
Hence why many tank crews that spend 1 hour of operations can face 3 hours of maintenance
@@bigblue6917 well the jagdpanther was known to also have the speed. so good gun, speed and armor
@@bigblue6917 AKA real life and not a video game. An Abrams was taken out by the crews camping tent stored in the rear rack being set on fire by RPGs which melted and dripped into the engine deck and set it on fire.
You speak german words very
accent-free, which is very rare. Gute Präsentation ;) !
ahhh yes another excellent video by dr. mark felton
Never seen so many Churchills in a video, I own a Diamond T 980 prime mover which coupled to the Dyson trailer were made specifically to transport the Churchill tank as nothing else at the time was weight rated at 40 tons.
Thanks as ever for sharing.
Thank you for remembering polish forces in this vlog
Another awesome video, thank Mark.
Can you please do a video series on how Germany reused captured Allied and Soviet tanks during WWII? I know they actually used operational Churchills captured after the Dieppe raid in '42 for various purposes. What they did with captured French tanks was really cool.
The Germans actually wore captured French underwear in Russia. There were huge storerooms full of it when France fell. Stacked at least ten feet high I seem to remember.
Didn't Mark release one only recently on captured Shermans?
well tehy basically used whatever they got cause they desperately needed it
spacewurm the Germans thought that the Churchill was something left over from WW1 and considered it to be obsolete equipment.
Excellent content as always.
This is my favorite CZcams channel!
Had they continued to build the jagpanther in large numbers and improved along with the e-25 models.They would have dominated the battlefields.