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  • Curator David Willey is back with another Tank Chat. This time, he will be discussing the Sonderkraftfahrzeug 251, which is more commonly referred to as the Sd.Kfz. 251.
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    00:00 | Intro
    00:26 | Halftrack Origin
    03:20 | Development
    13:36 | Production and Use
    Footage:
    Replica Shakedown - German Sd.Kfz 251 (Czech Tatra OT-810)
    By @WW2Armor
    #tankmuseum #tankchats #DavidWilley #Sdkfz

Komentáře • 475

  • @thetankmuseum
    @thetankmuseum  Před rokem +147

    Hey Tank Nuts! Let us know what you think about this vehicle.

    • @jettfancy
      @jettfancy Před rokem +7

      This is a long awaited Tank chat. Thanx!

    • @zaynevanday142
      @zaynevanday142 Před rokem +3

      I ❤ it

    • @ihcfn
      @ihcfn Před rokem +4

      Pretty iconic tbh.

    • @danielstickney2400
      @danielstickney2400 Před rokem +2

      it's interesting that people are still talking about the supposed vulnerability of open topped vehicles to indirect fire after 50+ years of images of soldiers riding on top of their enclosed APCs and IFVs because they believe riding around in an enclosed box actually makes them more vulnerable. If you're convinced your survival depends upon hitting the dirt or shooting first riding on top makes perfect sense: You can see better, bail off instantly if you come under fire, and have an extra layer of armor plus whatever junk is inside between you and a mine. And an open-topped vehicle is mostly vulnerable to indirect fire in less common circumstances like air bursts or direct hits. The top is generally regarded as the least vulnerable side of any vehicle, which is why it usually gets the thinnest armor.
      The front wheels made perfect sense for a high speed tracked vehicle of that era. They provide the driver with steering feedback and a way to follow most roads without throwing the passengers around and maybe throwing a track or just causing extra wear and tear on the vehicle. Just imagine the hammering constant skid steering would have done to those delicate needle bearings. The front wheels enabled the high speed running that made the needle bearings both necessary and possible in a way that was fairly cheap and easy to implement and allowed them to get away with simple steering brakes when track braking was required. The Universal Carrier used track warping for most of the same reasons.
      As for the interleaved roadwheels I'd just note that no one else ever bothered with them because the practical problems outweigh the theoretical benefits. Even the US, which tested the hell out of everything and shamelessly copied anything that worked gave overlapping roadwheels a pass. I suspect the Germans stuck with overlapping wheels because their torsion bar metallurgy wasn't up to the task without them.

    • @Tyler-sy7jo
      @Tyler-sy7jo Před rokem +3

      I always kind of thought the idea of a half-track was a bit silly. This really put the idea more in perspective. As much as I don't want to commend Nazis, this idea really ended up slotting into their idea of mobile warfare being the future. When they weren't being forced to build absolute nonsense in fear of a leader gone mad (Leading to questionable vehicles like Maus, Elefant and the Jagdtiger), German engineering was really ahead of its time.

  • @c.j.zographos3713
    @c.j.zographos3713 Před rokem +303

    Interesting to see a non-tank tank chat about a type of vehicle vital to mobile warfare; the APC and IFV had to originate from somewhere and this a fine presentation of such an example.

    • @vksasdgaming9472
      @vksasdgaming9472 Před rokem +4

      APC came from need to deliver infantry in safety to where they were needed and IFV came from need to carry infantry with tanks and as tanks were very likely opponents when your own tanks are going you need something that can threaten tanks and carry that infantry.

    • @samholdsworth420
      @samholdsworth420 Před rokem +7

      Its has tracks therefore its tanks 😅

    • @johanmetreus1268
      @johanmetreus1268 Před rokem

      @@samholdsworth420 *hides the bulldozer to avoid misclassification*

    • @jacquesstrapp3219
      @jacquesstrapp3219 Před rokem +2

      @@samholdsworth420 If you really think that, you need to learn a lot more about tracked vehicles and AFVs in general. Here is a video that explains why the terminology is important.
      czcams.com/video/hEna9T4zSM0/video.html

    • @jerryjeromehawkins1712
      @jerryjeromehawkins1712 Před rokem +1

      ​@@jacquesstrapp3219 I think he's just joking around, lol.

  • @christopherboudreau2451
    @christopherboudreau2451 Před rokem +256

    Still cooler looking than anything before or since.

    • @lena19191
      @lena19191 Před rokem +17

      Agree ….some what Star Wars look

    • @jessicalacasse6205
      @jessicalacasse6205 Před rokem +7

      when you design thing on cocaine ...no cocaine m113...

    • @igorokinamujika2073
      @igorokinamujika2073 Před rokem

      @@lena19191 I think its the other way around. Star Wars took lots of inspiration from Nazi Germany for its evil Empire designs. Both vehicles and uniforms. I mean, the Galactic Empire is meant to be Nazis in space.

    • @swagguy2171
      @swagguy2171 Před rokem +8

      @@lena19191 that’s why I love Star Wars. Some of the designs and scenes are inspired by ww2 and ww1

    • @lena19191
      @lena19191 Před rokem

      @@swagguy2171 yep agree

  • @RP-ks6ly
    @RP-ks6ly Před rokem +142

    I had the opportunity to drive an OT810 (Czech copy) and had a blast. It was very intuitive and was easy to drive..... great fun.

    • @martinbrode7131
      @martinbrode7131 Před rokem +7

      Great fun without any flying bullets. 😅

    • @Farweasel
      @Farweasel Před 9 měsíci +4

      @martinbrode7131 You had to pay extra to have the bullets too - *obviously*

    • @DurangoCzechoslovakia
      @DurangoCzechoslovakia Před 5 měsíci +2

      It's not really a Czech copy, this one was made also in the Czech Republic during WW2 and the OT is just an improved version.

  • @thewey
    @thewey Před rokem +221

    I've always had a soft spot for the 251. As a modeler, It just looks so boss and menacing next to a Panzer 3 or Panzer 4 in Afrika Korps colors. I'd love to drive or ride in one someday.

    • @CaptainPrice360
      @CaptainPrice360 Před rokem +12

      For all their villainy, they sure had cool looking kit

    • @johnanon6938
      @johnanon6938 Před rokem +11

      I did a fine scale model of a 251 back in 1990 when there wasn't much variety (probably a Tamiya) and no 3rd party kits (pre-internet) but I poured over the 1 thin book that I found on the 251 that was only available by mail order. So much had to be scratch made inside that I even made a diorama base for it from plaster of paris in a square mold that I later set in an oak stand. Hmmm don't recall that book even mentioning the ambulance versions. But the 251 was in so many theatres, with so many versions and was modified so much that it is perfect for modelers to get their hands on. Especially after watching the Tank Museum's video on it!

    • @jojoanggono3229
      @jojoanggono3229 Před rokem +5

      I agree with you. The idea of motorized infantry, especially the pioneer/engineer unit or fast moving assault force is amazing.

    • @lancerevell5979
      @lancerevell5979 Před rokem +6

      @@johnanon6938 Being retired I got back into model building. I've done several of the Tamiya kits. They do have a more recent kit with a better interior detail.

    • @AdamMGTF
      @AdamMGTF Před rokem

      Did the boss of armour troops use these? I didn't realise they were used as command vehicles. I'd love to learn more!

  • @beyondfubar
    @beyondfubar Před 4 měsíci +6

    RIP the third guy to jump out at 8:34 that had to be a painful and scary landing right next to the running gear of that APC.

    • @HSstriker
      @HSstriker Před 3 měsíci

      and the bright light jumping out with his back facing the direction they are traveling... aaaah very well trained i see

  • @kurtwoods9789
    @kurtwoods9789 Před rokem +41

    At the end of the day one of the coolest looking armored vehicles ever built.

    • @Farweasel
      @Farweasel Před 9 měsíci +2

      Following the second war these SchutzPanzers (I don't think any of the kids knew the name beyond 'Jerry Half Tracks' mind) were pretty much iconic of the whole German panzer ethos.
      Every comic book, every film which wanted to be taken seriously etc.. Obligatory inclusion 🙄

  • @Blackcloud_Garage
    @Blackcloud_Garage Před rokem +80

    Happy to see more of this. The trucks, jeeps, APC's, prime movers, etc. never get the proper attention they deserve. Just as important to the fight as the tanks.

    • @stevenschnepp576
      @stevenschnepp576 Před rokem

      Logistics wins wars, which is why the side America picks in world wars wins.

    • @sam8404
      @sam8404 Před rokem +2

      Amateurs talk strategy, professionals talk logistics.

    • @wiliamaquiles2084
      @wiliamaquiles2084 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@stevenschnepp576✡️👃🇺🇸

  • @EP65
    @EP65 Před měsícem +1

    Thank you for this upload. 👍
    Always been a fan of German halftracks. As a model builder I am now working on a 251/22 D Pakwagen in 1/16.
    Can't wait to finish it but lots of time and patience is needed.

  • @terryd7852
    @terryd7852 Před rokem +74

    Another excellent video. Nice to see David back again.
    At 13:06 you say that a more 'simplified' version was put in to production as the Model C in 1943. I think that you meant to say the Model D as the 'C' came in to service in late 1941 still with the angular sides & rear of the earlier versions i.e. the vehicle you have there.

    • @LeifLaffeEriksson
      @LeifLaffeEriksson Před rokem +2

      Came here to say the exact same thing. Other than that, excellent video.

    • @sidetracknick3984
      @sidetracknick3984 Před 8 měsíci

      Also, he pics they show to illustrate the 'new' version are also C pictures, not D. (The editor put the right pictures in for the C, so blame the speaker!)

  • @Sir_Justin
    @Sir_Justin Před rokem +29

    That's my all time favorite vehicle of WW2. Iconic machine of blitzkieg, same as ju87.

    • @joeerickson516
      @joeerickson516 Před rokem +1

      "You know, the World,🗺 War,💥 Two,2⃣✌ Nazi German,🇩🇪 built,🏢 SD.KFZ 251 half-track mounted with MG34 and MG42 machine gun,🔫 and Flammenwerfer 35 flamethrower,🔥 variants aren't a match for the 1942 World, 🗺 War,💥 Two,2⃣ ✌American,🇺🇸 built,🏢 M1 bazooka anti-tank rocket,🚀 launcher or the M4 General Sherman medium tank,take it out, from the tall bush hedges of the French,🇫🇷 countryside of Nazi German,🇩🇪 occupied France,🇫🇷 during the D-day allied Beach,🏖 landings of Normandy in the date of June six, 6⃣ in the year of nineteen forty-four during the allied liberation,🗽 of France, 🇫🇷 the Netherlands, 🇳🇱 Belgium, 🇧🇪 Luxembourg, 🇱🇺 Denmark, 🇩🇰 Czechslovakia,🇸🇰 and Norway,🇳🇴 from the tyrannical oppressive Nazi German,🇩🇪 third Reich occupation of western Europe in the European theater,🎭 of the year of nineteen forty-four during World,🗺 War,💥 Two,2⃣ ✌?"

    • @joeerickson516
      @joeerickson516 Před rokem +1

      "You know the World,🗺 War,💥 Two, 2⃣ ✌Nazi German,🇩🇪 built,🏢 Junkers JU-87 stuka dive bomber,💣 isn't a match for the World,🗺 War,💥 Two,2⃣✌ British, 🇬🇧 Canadian,🍁 🇨🇦 Australian,🌏 🇦🇺 New Zealander,🇳🇿 Jamaican, 🇯🇲 Barbadian,🇧🇧 Indian,🇮🇳 Bangladeshi,🇧🇩 South African,🌍 🇿🇦 Bermuda,🇧🇲 and the Commonwealth of Nations built,🏢 Supermarine spitfire mark 1 and 2 and Hawker hurricane🌀 mark 1 fighter planes, ✈ in air,🛬 battle of great britain,🇬🇧 in the year of fifteen forty, during World,🗺 War,💥 Two,2⃣✌?"

  • @axeman3d
    @axeman3d Před rokem +13

    I always wanted to take one of these on the Paris-Dakar rally in what would probably be the height of bad taste. I always thought they were so cool looking. The Germans had the most interesting looking scout and armoured cars.

  • @ottovonbismarck2443
    @ottovonbismarck2443 Před rokem +30

    One of these famous yet overlooked vehicles. According to Military History Visualized, 251/1 carried one MG that belonged to the vehicle and was operated by the crew. The rear one, in case it was mounted at all, was the squad MG (or one of the squad MGs).

  • @_ArsNova
    @_ArsNova Před rokem +42

    Always loved these since I was a kid! Grossly underappreciated in my humble opinion. This had as much of, if not more, of an impact on mechanized warfare as any tank. Even the best, most mobile, tanks are all but useless without infantry support.

  • @kevinstewart449
    @kevinstewart449 Před rokem +3

    I've always been fascinated by the Sd.Kfz. 7 German half track that towed the '88 and carried it's crew.

  • @rosied6351
    @rosied6351 Před rokem +47

    DW Looking good as per usual, great to see him😊😊😊

  • @chrishartley4553
    @chrishartley4553 Před rokem +7

    Probably not the first to point this out but the two images 5:01 and 5:04 are sd.kfz 250 based off the smaller sd.kfz.10.
    That angled 'peak' in the side armour plate is distinctive.

    • @lancerevell5979
      @lancerevell5979 Před rokem +3

      And the 250 was a Demag chassis, while the 251 was the Hanomag chassis.

  • @grumblesa10
    @grumblesa10 Před rokem +40

    In the late 1920s through mid '30s, Ford made a track option available for its truck based on the Model A. My Dad remembered seeing them fairly often during the winters in SD. (If you've seen the Rankin-Bass special "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" the mailman is driving one.) I'm sure a similar option was available from Ford for Canadian and Mexican farmers as well.

    • @Devin_Stromgren
      @Devin_Stromgren Před rokem +2

      The Mattracks Museum in my county has one of those on display.

    • @grumblesa10
      @grumblesa10 Před rokem +1

      @@Devin_Stromgren COOL! My Dad said they actually were fairly common, at least in the Northern Tier.

    • @minuteman4199
      @minuteman4199 Před rokem +2

      I don't know about before the war, but after the war a lot of surplused Bren carriers were used as utility vehicles on Canadian farms.

    • @grumblesa10
      @grumblesa10 Před rokem +1

      @@minuteman4199 How cool would that be? Especially in the snow...

  • @karlp8484
    @karlp8484 Před rokem +7

    There were never enough of these. Extemely versatile and every variant was successful. One of the important tasks was as a long-range reconnaissance vehicle for Panzer divisions: quite stealthy , faster than a tank and able to defend itself too.

  • @kaidzaack2520
    @kaidzaack2520 Před rokem +42

    In case it was not mentioned before: Sd. Kfz. is the abbreviation of “Sonder Kraftfahrzeug”. So basically a “Special powered vehicle”. Maybe they used it to undergo Versailles treaties…nice vid! Cheers from Germany 👍🫶

    • @jeffreyestahl
      @jeffreyestahl Před rokem +14

      Special Purpose Vehicle, but the rest is correct.

    • @kaidzaack2520
      @kaidzaack2520 Před rokem +2

      @@jeffreyestahl Naja - KRAFT Fahrzeug ist ja schon was anderes als ein Eselkarren…😜

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 Před rokem +3

      Kraftfahrzeug is still official word for cars , lorries and busses, but not common in daily spoken language. Kraftrad is dated word for motorcycle. I personally would translate,Sonder-' in this context as ,extraordinary'.

    • @ottovonbismarck2443
      @ottovonbismarck2443 Před rokem +3

      SdKfz was for (partially) tracked vehicles (armored or not) as well as wheeled armored vehicles, so IMHO "special vehicle" comes closest.

    • @kaidzaack2520
      @kaidzaack2520 Před rokem +1

      @@ottovonbismarck2443 At least “extraordinary” vehicles no one would use on a daily basis…😜 Except going to war or something else…

  • @friedrichklett60
    @friedrichklett60 Před rokem +8

    The Vehicle put into production in 1943 would be the Ausführung D, not Ausführung C.

  • @davidbarnsley8486
    @davidbarnsley8486 Před rokem +4

    I have a corgi model of one from the 70s with the artillery gun towed behind 👍👍
    Always been one of my favourites

  • @gaveintothedarkness
    @gaveintothedarkness Před rokem +3

    8:35 The solder that jumped out did a total face plant

  • @jacobpeters9452
    @jacobpeters9452 Před rokem +9

    This was sick. I just built a custom 1/18 PAK wagen variant that was 3D printed for me. I've been hoping to see these gentlemen put together a few videos about some of these machines. Truthfully, when I was a kid, I came across a book in the library covering some of the armor used in the 2nd World War and on the cover was a 251 in action. Instantly, I was hooked. Also, my father works on heavy equipment for a living so naturally I feel an inclination to love anything with tracks

  • @at1970
    @at1970 Před rokem +22

    Among all the cool rigs I’d love to have in the backyard, this is high on the list.

    • @ottovonbismarck2443
      @ottovonbismarck2443 Před rokem

      I'd love to see your backyard. 😃

    • @HarborLockRoad
      @HarborLockRoad Před rokem +1

      Amen, the ultimate lawn ornament! I remember once making a pak 36 entirely out of scrap exactly for such a purpose because we had such snooty neighbors! 😉👍

    • @at1970
      @at1970 Před rokem +1

      @@ottovonbismarck2443
      And the swimmer version of the kublewagen for beer runs.

    • @AdamMGTF
      @AdamMGTF Před rokem +1

      I wish my back yard was as large as one of my these.
      I typed this and I regressed many years to my youth when "back yard" was a reference to something which these days isn't politically correct. But moving on....

    • @ostlandr
      @ostlandr Před 8 měsíci

      Supposedly one can still get their hands on the Cold War Czhek version.

  • @simonrooney7942
    @simonrooney7942 Před rokem +5

    Ausf D was the last version with flatter steel sheet angles and to simplify production.

  • @djd8305
    @djd8305 Před rokem +3

    I have always loved this one - grew up in the '70's with Warlord, Battle, Commando comics and Sven Hassel books.. It, the Schmeisser, Luger, stick grenades were sooo cool.

  • @fridrekr7510
    @fridrekr7510 Před rokem +6

    The period German term for these half-tracks is Schützenpanzerwagen - SPW, sometimes also known as Panzergrenadierwagen - PGW in the late war. I don't know why it's always called the Sd.Kfz. 251 instead of mittlere Schützenpanzerwagen. Nobody calls the Tiger an Sd.Kfz. 181.

  • @warwickholden6332
    @warwickholden6332 Před rokem +1

    The 'big brother' of this vehicle was the SdKfz 8. Though this was a specilised gun tractor with an open back. Just open seats for the gun crew and not armoured. Apparently one of these was captured in the Western Desert conflict and brought back to Britain for analysis with a view to making a copy. This didn't go ahead as British industry would have had to re-tool to make a similar vehicle, and (as David says in his video) it took a lot of field maintence to keep it going. A lot of what I know about AFVs' I learnt from a series of 'magazines' from the publisher, Hylton Lacey. They produced a huge number of "...in Profile" series in the 1960's and 1970's. Before going bust. "Armour in Profile" had reached nearly 150 in the series. Sad they stopped producing these - they were both informative and entertaining. They gave a background of development, production, and use in warfare of each vehicle as well as a full colour centre spread of each vehicle in combat colours and markings.

  • @michael-6988
    @michael-6988 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Love this vehicle, thank you for the great video

  • @TheSpritz0
    @TheSpritz0 Před rokem +8

    The American M-3 Half Track was also extremely popular and the Allies had well over 38,000 at their disposal...

    • @ivanbonarelli3112
      @ivanbonarelli3112 Před rokem +2

      L' Half Track M3, secondo me, superiore al Skdz 251, avendo la trazione anche all' avantreno, con cingoli in gomma, piu' facilmente sostituibili. Comunque, i tedeschi avevano capito l' importanza di questi mezzi blindati rispetto agli autocarri, usati inizialmente per trasporto truppe, poi declinati in altri ruoli ( artiglieria terrestre, contraerea, proiettore, getta ponte, ambulanza.) Saluti.

    • @williamzk9083
      @williamzk9083 Před rokem

      The M-3 was basically a 4WD truck transmission with driven fron wheels. The Germans could never have offered the cost of a transfer case and extra differential. The M-3 also had rubber tracks. Germany didn't have any natural rubber to add into synthetic rubber for an all rubber track. The KFZ.251 could operate without front wheels.

  • @AlthewizardofOz
    @AlthewizardofOz Před rokem +2

    I must say, having taken a hiatus from watching the tank museum/tank chats content, the production and visual aesthetics of the videos have really reached a new level! Keep up the great work, I think the improvements are working, and looking forward to more amazing quality content!

  • @td6460
    @td6460 Před rokem +30

    Greatly ahead of its time. Really cool vehicle.

    • @pseudonym745
      @pseudonym745 Před rokem

      Er ist kein Mensch,
      er ist kein Tier,.....
      ...Er ist ein Panzergrenadier..
      😅

    • @me67galaxylife
      @me67galaxylife Před rokem

      How is it ahead ?

  • @tutnallman
    @tutnallman Před 10 měsíci +1

    Splendid Chat...

  • @cyberleaderandy1
    @cyberleaderandy1 Před rokem +3

    We saw that 251 at the Tank Museum some yeas ago. Sadly its not been fully restored yet but hopefully one day may be so.
    Great picture of the German guy getting in the rear of a 251 at 15.01, he's probably asking who ripped the material on the seats.

  • @noahwail2444
    @noahwail2444 Před rokem +9

    Thank you, it is such a pleassure to listen to David Willey, and a great vehicle to cover. I would like to hear more about the sd. kfz 250 some time, such a cool litle thing.

  • @madmusial
    @madmusial Před rokem +2

    I love the way half tracks look. I know they have all kinds of issues but claiming the rule of cool they are so neat. Thank you for this one.

  • @moendopi5430
    @moendopi5430 Před rokem +8

    Great video. I think it is interesting that they decided for half tracks to angle the armour to increase armour thickness and for deflection purposes, but didn't bother doing that for tanks.

    • @ottovonbismarck2443
      @ottovonbismarck2443 Před rokem +7

      It's another fine proof that sloped armor wasn't invented on T-34. There were still some issues with welding thick sloped armor plates, as you can see on T-34 wrecks. If the welding isn't done well, that sloped armor gets you nowhere.
      From a production aspect, it was easier to build a rectangular box.

    • @HarborLockRoad
      @HarborLockRoad Před rokem +1

      Well, it was originally a czech design... Thank them for it

    • @ottovonbismarck2443
      @ottovonbismarck2443 Před rokem

      @@HarborLockRoad I'm afraid it wasn't. You should watch the video. The Czechs continued to build them after the war, so many of what you see in museums and in movies today is of post WW2 Czech origin.

    • @kw9849
      @kw9849 Před rokem +8

      They did do it on their early tanks. Look at the glacis plates, bow sections, and turret sides on a Panzer III or IV; they're not vertical, but are in fact set with a shallow slope. The Germans simply decided to compromise in favour of interior volume rather than maximum protection.

    • @moendopi5430
      @moendopi5430 Před rokem

      @@kw9849 That's a good point. I should have just looked up. I have a 1/16 scale model of a Panzer I, and sure enough, it was a lot more sloped than I had remembered.

  • @drmarkintexas-400
    @drmarkintexas-400 Před rokem +4

    Thank you for sharing
    🎖️🏆🇺🇲🙏

  • @HarborLockRoad
    @HarborLockRoad Před rokem +2

    The ww2 reenactments group i used to belong to had a converted czech skoda ot-810. I recall the diesel fumes were so bad, i was too nauseous to participate in events if we had to use it! At one event, i remember a column of national guard army reservists on a weekend drill stopped their entire column of m113s to check it out. That was pretty cool.

  • @S.M.S-Dresden
    @S.M.S-Dresden Před 6 měsíci

    I just love the Sd. Kfz. 251, its my favorit wehikel of the war!
    I saw the Pionier version in the German Panzer Museum in Munster once.
    Thanks for this Informating Video.
    Best regards from Germany 🇩🇪

  • @pseudonym745
    @pseudonym745 Před rokem +2

    I never knew, the steering would also involve the tracks, what of course does make a lot of sense.
    Fascinating as always, thanks very much!

    • @tonyclough9844
      @tonyclough9844 Před rokem

      Yes it's easier to drive than a fully tracked vehicle, so someone who can't drive a tank can drive them.

  • @captainhurricane5705
    @captainhurricane5705 Před rokem +5

    We called it the Hanomag back in the day. Donnerwetter!

    • @Iauchmitschlauch
      @Iauchmitschlauch Před rokem +1

      Hanomag was a factory in Hannover that produced them and other machines like Panthers.

  • @ph11p3540
    @ph11p3540 Před rokem +2

    My older brother was nuts about modelling German WW2 armor and aircraft. He must have had over 25 different 1/35 scale Sd. Kfz. 251s in different camouflage schemes, different kinds of stowage and that was just the basic infantry variants. Even had a massive diorama with a column of these encountering some British ambush.

  • @robert-trading-as-Bob69

    I was at School of Armour in South Africa back in 89/90.
    I have always been fascinated by armoured vehicles, but did not know how two rubber tyres could steer a half-track.
    Thanks to your video I now understand.

  • @Ubique2927
    @Ubique2927 Před rokem +3

    Many German basic designs are used now. Sdkfz 222, Sdkfz 234 and more.
    The half track was never going to be around today.

  • @Hybris51129
    @Hybris51129 Před rokem +34

    If I had Jeff Bezos levels of funding I would seriously commission a 18 ton "Famo" half track and make it road legal.

    • @hpholland
      @hpholland Před rokem +5

      Just patronizing a few master mechanics would be worth it.

    • @tomhenry897
      @tomhenry897 Před rokem +1

      Think someone makes kits

    • @sking3492
      @sking3492 Před rokem +2

      I want one - like yesterday! I need it to take to take shopping, kids off to soccer games etc when it is raining, muddy. If the ref says l can't park near the goal keeper...

    • @Holret
      @Holret Před rokem +4

      I would build on the kubelwagen and modernize to compete with jeep on the roads again.

    • @sim.frischh9781
      @sim.frischh9781 Před rokem

      Half-tracks are not good for pure on-road use, the tracks wear down too quickly and get expensive for the owners.
      The main advantage of half-tracks is the fact that they are half tank and half regular truck, so a person familiar with truck driving can simply switch over.
      But that really was their only strong point, the rest is too much of a compromise to ever excell at anything.
      We today have the technologocal base to produce better units with purely wheeled or tracked drive train and the training of drivers is no issue either.

  • @military-vehicles
    @military-vehicles Před rokem +5

    I think the best halftrack 👍

  • @JohnSmith-sl1my
    @JohnSmith-sl1my Před rokem +4

    Really enjoy these uploads . Been watching for years . As a kit builder built many tamaya half tracks cheep and easy to modify. Keep these top vids coming 👍

  • @Dene181
    @Dene181 Před rokem +2

    If i had the money i'd buy and modernize one. Or a few. Such an interesting and versatile vehicle! And it looks great.

  • @CallMeMrX
    @CallMeMrX Před 6 měsíci

    Loved this ever since I was a kid, it really has that classic German look

  • @Patches-vq8cd
    @Patches-vq8cd Před rokem +6

    I cant wait to see a more detailed look at the conquerer!
    Thanks for all the videos

  • @oliverwild
    @oliverwild Před rokem +4

    Great video and what a joy to have DW back. First video I've enjoyed (and been able to watch through) for a while now.

  • @c1ph3rpunk
    @c1ph3rpunk Před rokem +4

    Always liked this vehicle, don’t know what it is, the design, the shape, it just looks, well, cool.
    What I’ve always wondered though is what the troops that used it thought of it. Ask any US Vietnam era vet about the M113, or any modern vet about the Bradley, and you’ll get … opinions. What did the average troop think of the 251?

  • @gillesjacques1022
    @gillesjacques1022 Před 6 měsíci

    Very nice looking vehicle, well built and very useful on the battlefield.

  • @chowjers1087
    @chowjers1087 Před rokem +3

    Wow no way, I just rewatched the Lindybeige video of this today then this pops up :D

    • @scockery
      @scockery Před rokem

      Was he the one who said they weren't really that common in German service (outside of panzer grenadier units)?

  • @1guitarlover
    @1guitarlover Před rokem +2

    Great channel. Always interesting and well explained.

  • @ersikillian
    @ersikillian Před rokem

    There was an amusing video of one of these a few years ago driving through a small town in Germany. The track braking system is apparently hydraulic and this particular one was inoperative. The result was hilarious as it tried to make a 90 degree turn onto a side street. It took over 5 minutes of going back and forth while turning the front wheels in small increments, until , at last, it was able to make the turn.

  • @SportyMabamba
    @SportyMabamba Před 6 měsíci

    These were rock-hard to come up against in Medal of Honour Underground on PS1 😤

  • @doc.j.7246
    @doc.j.7246 Před rokem +7

    Another super clear and wonderful video - thank you David!

  • @scottmihalsky3612
    @scottmihalsky3612 Před rokem +2

    I thoroughly enjoy these programs. Thank you

  • @emilioalcazar-su9vi
    @emilioalcazar-su9vi Před 7 měsíci

    Master lesson about this mythical German vehicle, beautiful design as always

  • @robreibel3491
    @robreibel3491 Před 7 měsíci

    Great work. Thanks for you effort in putting these segments together

  • @russwoodward8251
    @russwoodward8251 Před rokem

    Yes, I found this quite fascinating. Thank you!

  • @mrhaflan
    @mrhaflan Před 3 měsíci

    My favorite Vehicle during ww2 ❤️

  • @larryjohnson1966
    @larryjohnson1966 Před rokem +3

    I was always curious about the 251. I like them better than the American Half-Track. Thank You.

    • @williamzk9083
      @williamzk9083 Před rokem +1

      The American half track was basically a 4WD truck with the rear wheel drive replaced by rubber tracks. The front wheels did all the steering. The German half track were a 2WD truck. Front wheels did the steering for small turns but an adjustable braking circuit progressively applied braking force to the inner track. The differential could be locked. Because of the length of the track and brake steering the German half tracks could be operated with the front wheels flat or removed. The US rubber tracks were maintenance free. The German rubber padded tracks had to be lubricated at each link. Rubber shortage in Germany.

  • @predattak
    @predattak Před 9 měsíci

    This had so many variants it's incredible... sdkfz 251/20 is one of the awesome ones.

  • @blxtothis
    @blxtothis Před 9 měsíci

    Another superb Bovington presentation.

  • @vo1non
    @vo1non Před rokem

    Great presentation. Very well done and informative.

  • @pmwalt22
    @pmwalt22 Před rokem

    Excellent explanation on the development and use of this vehicle, well done!

  • @robertstrong6798
    @robertstrong6798 Před rokem +1

    Great chat 💬 I’ve got 6 of these in a bolt action German grenadier army lol 😂

  • @andyshaw5378
    @andyshaw5378 Před rokem

    Absolutely cracking video. Fascinating stuff. Classic vehicle

  • @timgosling6189
    @timgosling6189 Před rokem +7

    For those of us of a certain age, 'SPV' is not a translation of 'Sonder Kraftfahrzeug' but 'Spectrum Pursuit Vehicle'.

    • @AtheistOrphan
      @AtheistOrphan Před rokem +1

      ‘Spectrum is green!’

    • @Simon_Nonymous
      @Simon_Nonymous Před rokem

      and we didn't even care if we could see the strings. Filmed in Supermarionation makes it all ok!

  • @iDuckman
    @iDuckman Před rokem

    Excellent and very tasteful tie!

  • @-cirad-
    @-cirad- Před rokem

    Incredibly well presented and with varied images.

  • @luvtruckin
    @luvtruckin Před 6 měsíci

    Love this channels Tank Chats so very well done and informative.
    I see you have what looks like an L-3 in the back ground I would love to know more about it.

  • @michaelguerin56
    @michaelguerin56 Před rokem

    Good video. Thank you. Nice to have the ambulance version.

  • @kampfgruppepeiper501
    @kampfgruppepeiper501 Před rokem +2

    Great video!

  • @sabrekai8706
    @sabrekai8706 Před rokem

    When the Panzer Museum at Musterlager got their 251 from Norway, the front wheels were missing. Blown off by a mine, the vehicle had been pushed to the side of the road and left. The museum acquired it and it came with a crate in the back to act as a counterbalance. No one bothered to look in the crate til it got to their shop. Inside, they found a brand new Mayback engine, which is now in one of their tanks. I visited the base in 1975, before the actual museum was built, and was given a tour by the base adjutant, as it was currently closed for maneuvers. They turned us away, and that night my dad and I met some troopers in the local bar. Long story short, they called in and made the arrangements. They didn't pay for another beer for as long as they were there 😄

  • @jonwingfieldhill6143
    @jonwingfieldhill6143 Před rokem

    I had my photo with David and the m14/41 italian tank on my birthday last month :)

  • @bartsimpson6767
    @bartsimpson6767 Před 9 měsíci

    Tanks for your time.

  • @conceptalfa
    @conceptalfa Před rokem

    Great document !!!👍👍👍

  • @simohenrik1860
    @simohenrik1860 Před rokem

    Great vid! Thanks.

  • @ianbell5611
    @ianbell5611 Před rokem

    Thank you.
    Another Great video

  • @bobfry5267
    @bobfry5267 Před rokem +2

    When I get my country estate I want one of these in a set with a Kettenkrad. And a full time mechanic.

  • @toadfaceass
    @toadfaceass Před rokem +1

    beautiful vehicle!

  • @billykorando6820
    @billykorando6820 Před rokem +2

    The wet tracks are absolutely wild. Can’t even imagine the maintenance headaches that design choice caused. Would be interesting to know why they stuck with them? As we have the “war” model here with the ausf. C.

    • @kw9849
      @kw9849 Před rokem

      The decision to make every pin bear on a set of needle bearings is insane. I question just how well these tracks worked in the long run; I'd wager they were only better than dry-pin for a short period before the needles got contaminated and started brinelling.
      Caterpillar does something similar nowadays, but even they use simple bushings.

  • @billsilver6429
    @billsilver6429 Před rokem +1

    Remember all those old war movies, where German Hanomag half tracks were always played by US Panhards? You could never get away with that these days.

  • @Kar4ever3
    @Kar4ever3 Před rokem +5

    Would love a vid on the Puma Sd. Kfz. Not sure you have it in house, but the APC with a huge gun is just so cool/strange, that I would love a bunch of experts like you, to give opinions and thoughts on it.

    • @rvanhees89
      @rvanhees89 Před rokem

      I second this

    • @Tinderchaff
      @Tinderchaff Před rokem +4

      I think the Puma is the Sd.kfz. 234 (more specifically I think it is the '/2' variant) in which case he did a tank chat on it a while ago (#120) but on their 234/3 variant with a different turret. This is the link czcams.com/video/D-HPtLPK-Ts/video.html

    • @Kar4ever3
      @Kar4ever3 Před rokem +1

      @@Tinderchaff I know. But that was very short. The 234 vid. I was more thinking in the greater sence of wheeled At/IFV vehicles, that early on. The French was quick on it too, but it was rather novel. At least with that level of gun. Hence the wanting their thoughts and opinions on it in the whole tank/mech/maneuver warfare aspect.

  • @epicforger12345
    @epicforger12345 Před rokem

    So Glad you did a video on this

  • @kevincostello3856
    @kevincostello3856 Před 7 měsíci

    The front end of this half- track looks very similar to my Dad's 1986 Volvo 740. From the grill to the slightly sloping front end. The 740 has 688k on the odometer.

  • @kaloyanradkov8962
    @kaloyanradkov8962 Před rokem

    I have heard of Hand in Hand. Today i know - Hand in glove. Thank you David Willey!

  • @franciscoramoncleriguesrov7187

    Precioso vehículo blindado militar me encantan las versiones del skdf tanto de apoyo u ofensiva o reconocimiento del terreno con el oficial… Gracias por compartir,estoy suscrito…

  • @Cherb123456
    @Cherb123456 Před rokem

    Iconic! Thank you!

  • @panther590
    @panther590 Před rokem +2

    For me of all the 22 variations the sdkfz 251 ausf D/22 being my favourite. I was surprised how many components there are in each track link. The variant I like is the one with IR search light for night fights. AFV club do some nice 1/35 versions as well as dragon. Das werk has done a engineering variant

  • @seanrenard8171
    @seanrenard8171 Před rokem

    As always, fascinating

  • @Claymore5
    @Claymore5 Před rokem +2

    I think you will find that the Ausf. D came in 1943 as the simplified version - the Ausf C really only had the exterior stowage boxes moved over the Ausf. B (from a visual point of view).

    • @geoquinn1
      @geoquinn1 Před rokem +3

      I agree. At 13 minutes into the video, he says the Ausf C had the straight rear doors. No it was the Ausfuhrung D.

  • @nsturgeon7145
    @nsturgeon7145 Před rokem +3

    As a kid, I had a metal toy version from a toy shop in Brittany. My sister had a teddy which the old shopkeeper carefully wrapped - when the shopkeeper saw the German insignia she nearly threw the toy at me. Guess she didn't have a high opinion of the Germans.

  • @stevenschnepp576
    @stevenschnepp576 Před rokem

    Seeing the gentleman standing next to it, I never realized how very small that thing is.
    It's adorable.

  • @philread386
    @philread386 Před rokem

    Marvellous as usual