M3 Halftrack: Strength & Weaknesses (featuring Chieftain)

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    In this video Nicholas "The Chieftain" Moran and I talk about strength & weaknesses of the M3 Halftrack, we also compare it to the German Sdkfz 251 Halftrack.
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Komentáře • 738

  • @MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized

    For a look at the German equivalent the Sd. Kfz. 251 be sure to check out this video on my main channel: czcams.com/video/60oHeCZHtvI/video.html

    • @flojo4271
      @flojo4271 Před 3 lety

      Hi, great topic for comparison. Do you and chieftain think, that there is an opportunity for a real comparison in the field, maybe at a reenactment? Would be interesting to see them performing offroad.

    • @superyachtchef
      @superyachtchef Před 2 lety

      Dude - which region or country does Nicholas come from because I don't recognise his accent 🤔

    • @MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized
      @MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized  Před 2 lety

      @@superyachtchef Ireland, but living in the US for a long time.

    • @janwitts2688
      @janwitts2688 Před 2 lety

      A few points.. the much earlier german infantry carrier had basicly the same body style as the ww2 one but was wheeled... the committee that provided tracks only looked at the track unit.. not the overall design...
      Early in the war the Germans used captured carrier track units to equip some trucks rear element... then all early pzr and any other tracked units they could get... they knew that the armoured carrier was overly complex but it was in production and they just manufactured everything they could non stop...
      The carrying of material along the sides was more due to the fractional over match of machine gun rounds.. which could perforate the sides with about 1 or 2 mm to spare... then were trapped inside the hull by the oposite armour.. rather like a .22 headship. . This was well known.. and a fractional degredation in penetrative capacity made the armour reject the round...

  • @Alpostpone
    @Alpostpone Před 4 lety +569

    "If you can't go into battle in style, what's the point?"
    - Cavalry Officer

    • @Ralphieboy
      @Ralphieboy Před 3 lety +7

      The Hanomag is much more stylish, but the M3 is also wicked cool.

    • @stonefox9124
      @stonefox9124 Před 3 lety +8

      "If I die I want to look good..."

    • @FenderBender5150
      @FenderBender5150 Před rokem

      I'm sorry but in my opinion the sexiest in style halftrack you can go into combat in is definitely the sdkfz 251. Very sexy

    • @forickgrimaldus8301
      @forickgrimaldus8301 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Every Pre Modern Army be like:

  • @guido2810
    @guido2810 Před 4 lety +304

    If one part of my model is missing, it was shot off, end of discussion

    • @Telamon8
      @Telamon8 Před 3 lety +40

      Similarly, if something critical just refuses to fit correctly: paint it burnt and claim it's a wreck.

    • @victoriacyunczyk
      @victoriacyunczyk Před 2 lety +9

      @@Telamon8 That's exactly what I do with broken model train kits.

  • @Dick_Kickem69
    @Dick_Kickem69 Před 4 lety +745

    The Chieftain: *slaps roof of M3 half track* "this baby can fit so many GIs"

    • @zidan1hao917
      @zidan1hao917 Před 4 lety +38

      and stick .50 cals on it, A LoT oF iT!!

    • @catfish552
      @catfish552 Před 4 lety +18

      "This baby can fit so many different roles on it."

    • @YourRealBestFriend
      @YourRealBestFriend Před 4 lety

      how r u no politics with a kekluger?

    • @Dick_Kickem69
      @Dick_Kickem69 Před 4 lety +16

      @@YourRealBestFriend it's a Bergmann, not a Luger. It's a reference to a great CZcams channel called Forgotten Weapons. Also Pepe isn't inherently political.

    • @Kalmoire
      @Kalmoire Před 4 lety +4

      ...what roof?

  • @wizzzer1337
    @wizzzer1337 Před 4 lety +79

    Part commonality is one of the most underestimated strength of the U.S war machine.

    • @biggidousthethird2672
      @biggidousthethird2672 Před rokem +3

      It used to be

    • @williamzk9083
      @williamzk9083 Před rokem +2

      I don't think there was a major part problem within the German half tracks. They were based on standard commercial truck drive trains. The rear wheel drive was replaced by a sprocket for the track to drive the front of the track. The steering wasn't complicated either. You turned the vehicle maybe +/-15 degrees using the steering wheel to turn the wheels past that point gentle braking pressure was progressively applied to the inside track. The pressure and angle was adjustable. I imagine it was a cam mechanism. So you simply had a separate brake for each side and a combined master for a common. A minor complication and in fact a lot less complicated than a US half track which was essentially a 4WD truck that required 3 differentials to be machined.
      -The most common half track was based on the Opel Blitz Truck which in fact could share parts with the half track and captured GM vehicles.
      -I suspect much of the running gear such as tracks, sprockets, suspension, idler wheels were shared between half tracks. The Germans put a big effort into standardizing these.

  • @bonboll5012
    @bonboll5012 Před 4 lety +65

    "If u cant go to battle in style whats the point?"
    The French uniform in WW1 lives to this motto

  • @matthayward7889
    @matthayward7889 Před 4 lety +253

    I’m really enjoying these MHV/Chieftain crossover videos.
    You seem to work really well each other, without talking over each other or there being any egos in the way. Brilliant.
    My personal favourite moments: modelling rant and fooling the DMV 😂😂

    • @HavanaSyndrome69
      @HavanaSyndrome69 Před 4 lety +12

      I liked the Lindybeige/Irish guy crossover. They were funny.

    • @wbertie2604
      @wbertie2604 Před 4 lety +7

      They seem to have a genuine affection for each other which is nice to watch.

    • @Finderskeepers.
      @Finderskeepers. Před 4 lety +4

      @@HavanaSyndrome69 Chieftain is the Irish Guy, which shows it was Lindybeige being the prat.

    • @LikeUntoBuddha
      @LikeUntoBuddha Před 4 lety +3

      If only David Fletcher had been there.

    • @mikehenthorn1778
      @mikehenthorn1778 Před 2 lety +1

      i was at this event and got to meet them both. they are both really nice guys and were very nice to this crazy Ohio boy.

  • @Legitpenguins99
    @Legitpenguins99 Před 4 lety +511

    Wait, your telling me the Cheiftan doesnt drive to work everyday in a M4 Sherman? What kind of heracy is this?

    • @loserface3962
      @loserface3962 Před 4 lety +14

      he drives to home every day in a sherman

    • @Arbiter099
      @Arbiter099 Před 4 lety +19

      Wouldn't the Abrams be his ride?

    • @loserface3962
      @loserface3962 Před 4 lety +29

      @@Arbiter099 no the abrams is his bathroom

    • @TheAir2142
      @TheAir2142 Před 4 lety +22

      I need .32 French Long

    • @Arbiter099
      @Arbiter099 Před 4 lety +11

      @@TheAir2142 can you settle for a villar perosa and some glisenti ammo?

  • @PhillyRacer121
    @PhillyRacer121 Před 4 lety +85

    Model making is supposed to be relaxing. Famous last words. My wife knows this all to well.

    • @anthonyhayes1267
      @anthonyhayes1267 Před 3 lety +4

      Battleship Marat is currently driving up my blood pressure

  • @gings4ever
    @gings4ever Před 4 lety +175

    I blame Company of Heroes for etching the persistence that the M3 halftrack is always more brutal as a mobile AA gun with the quad M2s than some silly halftrack with an MG that gives the enemy its suppressing at a way harder time killing with the added bonus of the M2's ball ammo having this scary potential to give most forms of cover a gigantic middle finger

    • @SouthParkCows88
      @SouthParkCows88 Před 4 lety +7

      Lol how funny. Nice reference.

    • @ME-hm7zm
      @ME-hm7zm Před 4 lety +7

      Time to boot up CoH again...

    • @svenlittlecross
      @svenlittlecross Před 4 lety +8

      chances are an infantrymen in the vicinity of that halftrack aren't really equipped with AA guns :/

    • @HaqqAttak
      @HaqqAttak Před 4 lety +15

      They really did use the thing that way in Korea though. Chinese got mowed by quad M2s.

    • @horrido666
      @horrido666 Před 4 lety +11

      I'm not sure what you just said, even though I play CoH. The quad 50 M3 was commonly used in ground combat in ww2. It was every bit as effective as you'd think it'd be.

  • @islaymassive1530
    @islaymassive1530 Před 4 lety +122

    To answer the question :
    No. i know that guy pops weelies in halftracks, and i dont know how healthy that is

    • @scunthorpe5513
      @scunthorpe5513 Před 4 lety +6

      It’s fairly healthy actually. The burning rubber creates a smokescreen so viruses can’t find you.

    • @BillMcD
      @BillMcD Před 4 lety +2

      @Zeh Crazy Gamer to be fair, hes referring to Nick Moran here popping a wheelie in an m3 halftrack because he had it in first gear. these things are really easy to pop wheelies in while in first gear. Generally it is best to start in second.

    • @aapenkooi1234
      @aapenkooi1234 Před 4 lety

      is there footage of that?

  • @DamianMaisano
    @DamianMaisano Před 4 lety +289

    To answer the question;
    Yes, yes I would
    (If I could afford it)

  • @MistahFox
    @MistahFox Před 4 lety +52

    My dad was lucky enough to buy tracks from Isreal for our M16 before they went out of stock. The trouble now is to figure out how to put them on with only 2 people.

    • @yelwing
      @yelwing Před 4 lety +6

      Mistah Fox Iv done it. Tell your dad to put a brick between the large push bolt and the idler axle mount. This will really give you a lot of slack in the tracks and make it MUCH easier to slip the tracks on. Also, loosen up the tension spring adjusting nuts and drop a locking spacer between the outer boogie swing arm nuts so the boogies don’t dangle when you jack up the halftrack. It’s not that hard

    • @jacobperry7637
      @jacobperry7637 Před 4 lety +3

      So how'd it go?

    • @johneastman1905
      @johneastman1905 Před 3 lety +1

      Just a one word answer....... “Friends”

    • @anthonyhayes1267
      @anthonyhayes1267 Před 3 lety +1

      I halp

  •  Před 4 lety +24

    One of the few CZcamsrs who is honest about disclosing sponsorship. +1 integrity for that.

    • @markdoldon8852
      @markdoldon8852 Před 4 lety +1

      Um, the whole POINT of these vids is to advertise. Naming them is really the only way that advertising works.

  • @ME-hm7zm
    @ME-hm7zm Před 4 lety +49

    I feel like after the first time I've lubricated every link on a 251 I would be incentivized to lose the thing to enemy fire.

  • @northwoodsrailproductions4538

    Great and all, but how does one exactly sink an Abrams?

    • @greatgiginthesky1268
      @greatgiginthesky1268 Před 4 lety +138

      you could ask a marine, but he is busy eating crayons.

    • @tiberiusbrain
      @tiberiusbrain Před 4 lety +33

      Id say just try to use it as a boat.... voila.

    • @octasteve
      @octasteve Před 4 lety +27

      Attempting to imitate Russian tanks.

    • @kailae3269
      @kailae3269 Před 4 lety +71

      Actually I’d strongly suspect that guy failed at being a submariner because rule no 1 is at the end of the day, the number of surfaces should equal the number of dives

    • @Sim.Crawford
      @Sim.Crawford Před 4 lety +59

      Getting to close to the edge of the dirt embankment in the middle of Fuck Knows, Iraq and ending up in the irrigation canal will do it.

  • @KiwiTheIguana
    @KiwiTheIguana Před 4 lety +54

    9:15 I think this is the most relatable thing I've ever heard Nick say, model making has caused me quite a few Insignificant Emotional Events so the second-hand frustration was very real. Well, it was real after I stopped laughing.

    • @vtbmwbiker
      @vtbmwbiker Před 4 lety +6

      Agreed. I am stuck in the 80's as well. I was working hard to make a 1/35th M-24 Chaffee and had a revelation-- my models will never, ever be showroom quality, high speed, realistic and detailed representations of the real thing. But, I have fun making them-- and that's all that matters. My goal is to build every significant US tank from 1939 to modern days in 1/35th and every significant aircraft in 1/72nd.

  • @gus2747
    @gus2747 Před 4 lety +7

    My dad was in the 4th ID during WW2. The division started out with half tracks, but in France they traded in half tracks for trucks. A truck could carry more men than a half track. The division took up less road space in consequence. On the road the division was thus faster and more nimble. They calculated this to be more important than a half track's limited off-road capability.

    • @williamzk9083
      @williamzk9083 Před 8 měsíci +1

      -During operation Barbarossa the Germans attack was delayed by some months due to the need to rescue Italian Forces that had become stalled down in Greece due to a unwelcome (to the Germans) invasion of Greece by Mussolini.
      -As a result the Germans became held up by the Raspadura or spring thaw. The mud caused an 8 fold increase in fuel consumption as half tracks had to be used to tow trucks through the mud.
      -The Germans didn't have a fraction of the 6WD trucks of the US but they had some reasonable stuff with duel boggies and independent suspension, double rear wheels and Limited Slip differentials etc.
      -The Half tracks really excelled at getting through the mud and also towing trucks through it. I don't think 6WD trucks would have worked. The mud could be nearly a meter deep.

  • @duck_6983
    @duck_6983 Před 4 lety +28

    I got my dolphins in 2012 and was able to serve on a "newer" Virginia class before leaving the service, but am now truly envious that I didn't earn my fish on an Abrams class!

    • @victorwaddell6530
      @victorwaddell6530 Před 4 lety +2

      Hello Bubblehead ! From a DDG / CG sailor , AKA Skimmer .

    • @carebear8762
      @carebear8762 Před 4 lety +7

      Bonus points to the TC who manages to say, 'give me one ping, Vasiley' onthe radio before ordering his crew to abandon tank.

    • @duck_6983
      @duck_6983 Před 4 lety +1

      @@victorwaddell6530 Hello! Have always admired the tin can sailors after hearing stories of you guys walking on bulkheads in heavy seas! Bubbleheads aren't used to that kind of beating. If we had to surface in even a mild storm at least 1/3 of the crew was blowing chunks all over the place haha!

    • @victorwaddell6530
      @victorwaddell6530 Před 4 lety

      @@duck_6983 But at least we could go out on deck and see the sun , the moon , the stars , a sunrise or a a sunset . Maybe smoke a cigarette if the smoking lamp was lit . I understand the chow was better on a sub than on a tin can . Submarine chow is almost like Air Force DFAC food from what Ive heard . Yes , Ive sailed some rough waters during my eight years at sea . Once a crewmember nearly got washed overboard . Thanks for your sevice . Ex OS2 USN , Over and Out .

  • @archiveacc3248
    @archiveacc3248 Před 3 lety +4

    My grandpa was a forward artillery observer in the Pacific, and one time there was a Japanese sniper in a dense thicket blocking their advance. They called for a tank to blow the guy out, but the tankers refused to come because they didn't want to expose themselves to Japanese fire. So they got ahold of a halftrack crew, and those guys immediately drove into an exposed position (in an open topped vehicle!) and blasted the thicket to pieces. He always had nothing but praise for the halftrack guys after that.

  • @rjlarose5271
    @rjlarose5271 Před 3 lety +2

    My neighbor has 2 of these. They are in great shape. A testament to the builders and its maintenance.

  • @raymondkisner9240
    @raymondkisner9240 Před 4 lety +10

    Halftracks were a great combat purpose vehicle to get troops and weapons to the battle. MY uncles loved them during WWll and Korea War. They were very reliable and easy to drive with good speed

  • @jyzow
    @jyzow Před 4 lety +72

    You should have titled this 'MHV shoots the breeze with the Chieftain next to an M3 Halftrack'. I don't think it would actually hurt your view count!

  • @acvaticlifE
    @acvaticlifE Před 2 lety +5

    My god, when the Chieftain went on his rant about model building, I pissed myself laughing with how right he is about every aspect of it! Yes man, I totally know what you are talking about!

  • @knutdergroe9757
    @knutdergroe9757 Před 4 lety +23

    Half tracks, and tanks can be Hyway legal here in NEW MEXICO U.S.A. As long as you rubber pads on the tracks or the rubber tracks(like the M3 style or M114....).

    • @ABrit-bt6ce
      @ABrit-bt6ce Před 4 lety +4

      Tanks are basically legal to DD in the UK. People get a bit picky about the weapons though. ;)

  • @MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized

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    • @Grimpy970
      @Grimpy970 Před 4 lety +1

      "Would I buy a used half track from this man"
      I'd be more inclined to buy a half track from him than anyone else

    • @dylan-yf8zg
      @dylan-yf8zg Před 4 lety

      does this sponsorship deal also give us free premium ammunition? no? ah well no deal then... rather play something that isn't as controlled by premium as world of tanks is like warthunder where i can actually earn premium vehicles by playing the game and I don't even have to abandon my job to do so I can just play a bit every few days and there we go! "event vehicle acquired".
      good video tho MHNV

    • @General-F
      @General-F Před 4 lety

      It be cool if Half-track was in World of Tanks

  • @tim2024-df5fu
    @tim2024-df5fu Před měsícem +1

    A buddy found an abandoned one near a forgotten WW2 bunker at the mouth of the Alsek River in Alaska. The seat fabric front and back was rotted out but the rest of the vehicle was remarkably intact and surprisingly very little rust. The rubber track was dry and cracked but it worked just fine after he got it running again.

  • @CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl
    @CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl Před 4 lety +3

    Yes put together the Airfix Churchill tank with all the small pesky wheels, it became instantly clear why the T34 was such a wonderful tank.

  • @ExUSSailor
    @ExUSSailor Před 4 lety +15

    As a former sailor, and, proud Enlisted Surface Warfare Specialist, "bubblehead" IS an insult!

    • @neurofiedyamato8763
      @neurofiedyamato8763 Před 4 lety +1

      I hear that submariners adopted the term now though. It used to be an insult from what I'm aware of.

  • @Robbie_Prz
    @Robbie_Prz Před 7 měsíci +2

    Nice shoutout to 'Model Railroader Magazine' didnt expect that!

  • @Ralphieboy
    @Ralphieboy Před 4 lety +5

    I was surprised to find out that the the M3's German counterpart, the SdKW 251 lacked the M3's front-wheel drive, which was quite a disadvantage.

    • @xboxgorgo18
      @xboxgorgo18 Před rokem

      Not a fair comparison, Sd.kfz drives like a tank while the M3/M5 drives like an improved truck

  • @jonasgrumby4393
    @jonasgrumby4393 Před 4 lety +2

    My great uncle drove one through Belgium during the war. He said the halftrack was
    absolutely useless on ice and he had trouble with sliding off of the road or into obstacles.

  • @inisipisTV
    @inisipisTV Před 4 lety +24

    MHnV and the Chieftains most Excellent Adventures.

  • @Spaghetter813
    @Spaghetter813 Před 4 lety +32

    Its also important to remmeber that German doctrine expected panzer grenadiers to fight from their vehicles while US armored infantry was expected to dismount well before seeing action.

    • @carebear8762
      @carebear8762 Před 4 lety +17

      Speaking as an infantryman who never got shot at, I'd rather be small and insignificant and not be worth a lot of attention than get shot at by things designed to kill armor.

    • @axelva2635
      @axelva2635 Před 4 lety +3

      Matthew Carberry the germans rather have the ability to keep up with the tanks and to relocate quickly even if they were shot by nasty guns.

    • @0GreatMerlin
      @0GreatMerlin Před 4 lety +11

      Anyone who stays in a German half track during a battle is just going to be toast. At a WW2 battle a couple of years ago, one of my buddies was alongside a track and fired his 12 gauge Winchester Model 12 over the top. The guy inside who had taken out his ear plugs came out swearing, saying that it rang like a bell. Now envision even a concussion grenade going into it from the top, people will be stunned for a long time. Dismounted is far better when there is no hard roof over your head.

    • @eyesofstatic9641
      @eyesofstatic9641 Před 4 lety

      @@0GreatMerlin Take a like for the Model 12. I too have one. Excellent shotgun.

    • @AntTzZor
      @AntTzZor Před 4 lety +6

      @@0GreatMerlin sd.kfz 251 Halftracks was used to keep pace with tanks during assaults, then troops could dismount with some cover and also fire support, MUCH like modern IFVs. this was a tactic used, most effective in the soviet union.
      They didnt ride into close combat throwing grenades at eachother. it wasnt call of duty.

  • @russellwilliams4317
    @russellwilliams4317 Před 3 lety +2

    I really enjoyed this video. You guys were honest, playful and went in depth. Very well done!

  • @lutherburgsvik6849
    @lutherburgsvik6849 Před 4 lety +5

    7:14 "[were there M3's equipped] with rocket artillery?"
    Indeed they were. There is a photo in the book 'M3 Infantry Half-Track 1940-73' published by by New Vanguard (page 35) of an M2A1 half-track equipped with 6 aircraft rocket tubes, and they have been fixed together and fixed on a pedestal mounting (rather than on the side like the Germans did with the sdkfz 251). The photo says this took place in Bengal Air Depot in 1944.

    • @thecocktailian2091
      @thecocktailian2091 Před 3 lety

      I seem to remember seeing a photo of a half track with a rocket pack. I havent the faintest idea as to where though.

  • @pw972
    @pw972 Před 4 lety +5

    I feel you concerning modeling. But what ever the reason for a moment of rage is, we carry on and enjoy the build.
    Thank you guy for your awesome content.

  • @scottireland5414
    @scottireland5414 Před 4 lety +1

    After serving in WW II, in the 97th Infantry Division, in Europe, and in Japan as a member of the occupying forces, my uncle returned home to Maine. In 1947, while he was using the GI Bill, he drove his surplus jeep around Phillips Exeter Academy, and Harvard, until he graduated. During the summers my uncle used two army surplus half-tracks, he bought, to pull stumps and do other work around his home in Goose Rocks Beach, Maine. He said there were no stumps his half-track could not pull out.

  • @davidoquias6061
    @davidoquias6061 Před 3 lety +1

    Love to see both of you together, such great discussions

  • @ericamborsky3230
    @ericamborsky3230 Před 3 lety +1

    The Cheiftain's statement on obscure modifications reminds me of an image I saw of Canadian soldiers who created a rack of about a dozen PIATs mounted onto the back of a bren carrier to be used in indirect fire.

  • @billd.iniowa2263
    @billd.iniowa2263 Před 4 lety +17

    Never build models in a room with shag carpeting.

  • @nater86zx
    @nater86zx Před 2 lety +1

    My dad owns 2 half tracks. One had most of the armor plating stripped and was being used as a dump truck or something similar at a rock quarry before he got it. The second still has all the original plating and he was told it served in Italy in WW2. There are 17 small indentations on the driver door and armor window flap from alleged enemy fire.
    He also owns an M37 power wagon, and multiple Willy's Jeeps.

  • @JoeBlow-fp5ng
    @JoeBlow-fp5ng Před 4 lety +2

    I enjoy your two working together on these videos. Two of my favorite CZcamsrs.
    And yes i would buy a used half-track if i lived in a remote rural area and could afford one. They are the coolest looking vehicles ever made.

  • @russwoodward8251
    @russwoodward8251 Před 4 lety +1

    Model makers strive to make their subjects rusty and dirty and with a gritty texture while the real AFVs we see in museums and demonstrations are as free of rust and dirt as can be practical. But I digress. Thanks Wargaming for bringing these two together. They always have such good topics of conversation. We've got to start a campaign to get Chieftain a halftrack!

  • @Orieni
    @Orieni Před 4 měsíci

    My mother’s father was a WW2 light tank crewman transferred to the infantry after North Africa, and he loved those half tracks.

  • @denniskasza6069
    @denniskasza6069 Před 4 lety +3

    so basically what your saying is the German halftrack was over engineered and needed a mechanic to fix if it broke down and the American halftrack was designed to be used and maintained by farm boy, sounds about right.

    • @MikeJones-oo7wi
      @MikeJones-oo7wi Před 3 lety

      Shame the farm boys stayed home, apparently oz & nz troops found the gear abandoned, got it going and commenced battle .

    • @denniskasza6069
      @denniskasza6069 Před 3 lety

      @@MikeJones-oo7wi what are you going on about, trying to put down Americans? It was design I was commenting on. Are you so pathetic that you come out just to try and troll people a year later? How sad. During WW2 Americans used these as well as their allies on a massive scale.

  • @victorwaddell6530
    @victorwaddell6530 Před 4 lety +1

    There is a guy in my hometown who owns one of these vehicles in running condition . He's a Vietnam Vet Marine Combat Engineer who retired from the USMC Reserves . He got activated post Desert Shield / Desert Storm to clear unexploded ordnance . In the 1980s he had a business dealing in Milsurp vehicles , used to sell alot of Jeeps , many still in the crate . He has a fully restored Cold War era Jeep in the barn alongside the halftrack. The front room in his house is a mini museum of militaria. At times he would drive his halftrack in local parades and let a friend drive the Jeep . Sometimes he would take his halftrack out on the road during winter storms , pulling cars out of ditches and generally showing off .

  • @davey7452
    @davey7452 Před 2 lety +1

    I remember seeing a pair of Isreali half tracks still in use on the Goland Heights in 1990. At the time they were still being used for patrol and reconnaisance near the Syrian border.

  • @captjim007
    @captjim007 Před 4 lety +2

    My dad drove a commanders halftrack of a light armored outfit in the Korean war. He said the Navy saved them by firing huge shells over them, keeping the Chinese from overrunning them.

  • @avalonangeloflight
    @avalonangeloflight Před 4 lety +13

    Slaps top of half track, this can fit so many yanks in it!

    • @as-jp5cl
      @as-jp5cl Před 4 lety +1

      Shes cherry, Only driven to berlin once.

  • @apuffofpink8484
    @apuffofpink8484 Před 4 lety +54

    Would the M2 browning come with it if I bought it from this man?

    • @thelittlestmig3394
      @thelittlestmig3394 Před 4 lety +12

      Name one thing in life that isn't negotiable.

    • @weak1ings
      @weak1ings Před 4 lety +20

      @@thelittlestmig3394 The fact we all die

    • @thelittlestmig3394
      @thelittlestmig3394 Před 4 lety +4

      @@weak1ings If one is killed, they didn't die.
      Also emerging technologies such as digitizing human mind, cell/body replacement, genetic diddling to make lifespan longer til infinity and so on.

    • @weak1ings
      @weak1ings Před 4 lety +13

      @@thelittlestmig3394 Nah, whether you find a fly dead in the closet or you swat one and kill it, it still is dead and has died. Murder and killing is not a ways to prevent death. This fact is non-negotiable. The means may be, but the effect cannot be negotiated away.
      Basic math on why immortality does not prevent death:
      Being immortal just means you won't die from old age, death will find a way eventually, just think of it mathematically: If theres a 0.00001% chance of death every year, what if you live 10 million years? These odds might sound good but statistically even at that rate theres a 100% chance on average, of death. It will find a way whether one eats some bad food, trips tragically, gets in a car wreck, is murdered, dies in a war, etc. Its unavoidable even if we extend our lives; which I might add is still not here yet!
      As long as you live theres a chance of death, any chance carried on infinitely will happen.

    • @muffinman4515
      @muffinman4515 Před 4 lety +6

      It depends. If the M2 is a model or not full auto then it will probably be around $1000 or so. If it’s a legitimate M2 it’s probably selling for $30k tbh.

  • @Tree_Dee
    @Tree_Dee Před 3 lety +1

    I was once up close & personal with the quad-50 variant (my favorite!). This was at a military vehicle show in 2000. I almost fainted. Like a 12 year old girl running into Paul McCartmey in 1965.

  • @Crosshair84
    @Crosshair84 Před 4 lety +1

    9:45 My uncle registered a trailer house as a motor vehicle. He's a farmer and built a crop sprayer out of a trailer house frame. He used the trailer house VIN to register it with the state DMV.

  • @TheLeonhamm
    @TheLeonhamm Před 4 lety

    Great fun! Thank you both.

  • @sevenproxies4255
    @sevenproxies4255 Před 4 lety +14

    Hehe, in Sweden they strapped a recoilless cannon to a freaking Jeep for tank hunting purposes. XD
    The reasoning being: you don't need armor to fight tanks. You just need mobility and being able to spot the tank before it spots you.
    Plus it's cost effective and easier to field in great numbers.

    • @dogofthedesert6642
      @dogofthedesert6642 Před 4 lety +7

      This setup sounds a lot like the Jeep mounted M40 105 mm recoilless rifle that the U.S. Army used during the Vietnam era. For antitank work but also for blasting away at targets in general.

    • @demonprinces17
      @demonprinces17 Před 4 lety +2

      Used into the 80's when replaced by the TOW

    • @oddballsok
      @oddballsok Před 4 lety +2

      eh.."only" the swedes ???

    • @sevenproxies4255
      @sevenproxies4255 Před 4 lety +1

      @@oddballsok: Did I say that? No I don't believe I did. So why even ask?

    • @PobortzaPl
      @PobortzaPl Před 4 lety +5

      Nothing beats Vespa with recoilless gun.
      It was meant as AT for paratroopers.

  • @pattime2laugh599
    @pattime2laugh599 Před 4 lety +2

    It was cool to see the Chieftain at the D-Day Re-enactment at Conneaut, Ohio this past summer where this footage was taken. Great videos.

  • @scottmihalsky3612
    @scottmihalsky3612 Před 4 měsíci

    This is fantastic thank you

  • @jackmoorehead2036
    @jackmoorehead2036 Před 3 lety +1

    2 of my favorite historians on one show! Thanks!

  • @TheTomasio1975
    @TheTomasio1975 Před 4 lety +2

    A model railroader here, I know all about "a prototype for everything". Also, when building a model for an NMRA contest it's encouraged to have a picture of the prototype. I've heard of cases where the judges would have deducted points for some oddity on the model if it wasn't also on the prototype in the picture.

  • @KnifeChatswithTobias
    @KnifeChatswithTobias Před 4 lety +1

    I’m still making models like I did in the 1970’s so you’re ahead of me! Great video and great rambling

  • @stefanebert7171
    @stefanebert7171 Před 4 lety

    Howdy Bernard. Du lebst meinen Traum! Wie immer sehr informativ. Gruss

  • @rollastudent
    @rollastudent Před 4 lety +3

    This keeps appearing in my feed, and all can think is, it’s not like there are new halftracks out there to buy.

  • @m1sz3lpl24
    @m1sz3lpl24 Před 4 lety +3

    *slaps the roof of the half-track*
    This bad boy can fit so many GIs in it!

  • @kris220b
    @kris220b Před 4 lety +1

    We need more Model Kit ramblings from both of you.

  • @simohayho8622
    @simohayho8622 Před 4 lety +9

    *15y old me and the boys riding in a half track*
    US army: "Now this is an avengers level threat"

  • @glennreyniers6503
    @glennreyniers6503 Před 4 lety

    i can totaly relate to the modeling,frustrating sometimes,but also satisfiying from time to time

  • @Electronzap
    @Electronzap Před 4 lety

    Good stuff!

  • @Leffe123
    @Leffe123 Před 4 lety

    What a nice conversation

  • @Kapplerartbloomingdale

    Yes. I love the design and tough build. If I could find one.

  • @lt_walke4088
    @lt_walke4088 Před 4 lety +2

    As to you comment on M3 Half Track mounting rockets, I believe that the Israel's mounted the French SS-11 Anti tank missile on a traversable rack above troop compartment. That being said the US and Canadians also mounted the SS-11 anti tank missiles on UH-1 helicopters.

  • @marzolian
    @marzolian Před 4 lety

    The rambling was some of the best stuff.

  • @MrWoodii
    @MrWoodii Před 3 lety

    Love the M4A3 (105) with HVSS in the background!

  • @slightlyshabby9226
    @slightlyshabby9226 Před 4 lety +2

    Just had to comment saying the thumbnail text for this video made me crack up. Good sense of humor!

  • @RonI-qz2tz
    @RonI-qz2tz Před 4 lety

    Great video.

  • @syos1979
    @syos1979 Před 4 lety

    A timeless piece of history, and a damn stylish one too.

  • @ericmyers5940
    @ericmyers5940 Před 4 lety

    8:50 That´s PLASMO. Great models, great chanel!

  • @morningsalute03
    @morningsalute03 Před 4 lety +1

    My dad and I restored 2 scout cars. Basically a wheeled half track. 1 is now in a museum in CA.

  • @caringancoystopitum4224
    @caringancoystopitum4224 Před 4 lety +3

    "If you can't go into battle in style; what's the point?" Which is exactly why I want to have a look at a german halftrack ;)

  • @mockier
    @mockier Před 4 lety

    Cool to see so many vintage vehicles in one place

  • @blackpanzerkampfwagen8514

    I would buy one i love em..keep up the good vids..

  • @coltonslater
    @coltonslater Před 4 lety

    Epic collab

  • @donaldmikulec4332
    @donaldmikulec4332 Před 4 lety +1

    It is more relaxing to look at completed models than to build them.

  • @MililaniJag
    @MililaniJag Před 4 lety +1

    Great vid! Be interesting to compare the initial production cost of the M3 vs Sdkfz 251 Halftracks? Thx!

  • @matt47110815
    @matt47110815 Před 4 lety

    Chieftain and MH(n)V in the same Video - yes!!! :-) Always a true pleasure to watch.

  • @chrisf247
    @chrisf247 Před 4 lety +1

    The KV2 modeler is Plasmo! Good stuff.

  • @pitthistoryguy1301
    @pitthistoryguy1301 Před 2 měsíci

    Agree with you about long wanting an M3 Scout Car to drive on the street, ever since I built my first 1/72 Esci kit more than 40 years ago.

  • @tootired76
    @tootired76 Před 3 lety

    Yup! You perfectly described me about model making!!!

  • @rudolphantler6309
    @rudolphantler6309 Před 4 lety

    Yaaay Nicholas!

  • @arnonuhm6922
    @arnonuhm6922 Před 4 lety +20

    If you compare the M3 with the 251 you see that the the 251 bears most of its weight with its tracks while the M3 carries a lot of its weight withe the wheels. The 251 is more a tracked vehicle with wheels while the M3 is more like a wheeled vehicle with a "tracked wheel". So a powered wheel does not make any sense on the 251, it would make it only expensive to build and hard to maintain. Even on the M3 I do not see why you power the wheels when most of the traction power comes from the tracks anyway. On roads the M should be better to handle, offroad the 251 should be better to handle. Just guessing, I am not an expert.

    • @mandernachluca3774
      @mandernachluca3774 Před 4 lety +4

      Powering 4he front wheels on the M3 is useful because of the weight distribution that you already mentioned. Just imagine, that the M3 has to drive through deep mud, there is a lot of resistance on unpowered front wheels as they essentially push the mud infront of them.
      Now the powered front wheels could make sense, simply to reduce the ground resistance on muddy trails.

    • @zidan1hao917
      @zidan1hao917 Před 4 lety

      251got less power than the M3/M5, but I think maintenance is really what may piss every engineer off....

    • @HaVoC117X
      @HaVoC117X Před 4 lety

      @@zidan1hao917 the m3 is 2,5 tons heavier, while offering less armor protection. You haven ten guys riding that thing. Lubrication of the tracks could be that much of a problem with this combined man power:)

    • @barthoving2053
      @barthoving2053 Před 4 lety

      Powered front wheels are more effective at steering then non-powered front wheels. And a front wheel drive chain was cheaper and general more mature technology than a individual speed track gearbox.

    • @billwilson3609
      @billwilson3609 Před 2 lety

      Four wheel drive provides superior cross country mobility plus better traction on muddy and icy roads. The USA automakers led the World in the production of commercial/heavy duty trucks that had 4 wheel and 6 wheel drives that were used in agriculture. mining and logging operations. J. Walter Christie invented rubber band tracks for use on trucks that had twin rear axles with the band being slipped over the wheels so those had better flotation and traction on muddy logging roads. The US Ordnance Dept. decided to base the scout car and halftrack on a proven GMC heavy 4x4 truck design with the only changes made to the body, fuel tank placement and beefing up the frame and suspension. Their parts were produced by GM and a few other companies (Checker Motors of taxi cab fame made body panels) then shipped to the heavy truck manufacturers who took turns assembling the M3 between their own production runs of their own vehicles that were mostly left unchanged for use as tow trucks, dump trucks and heavy trailer tractors. All of the M3's used the same components except those slated for Lend-Lease. Those M3's were manufactured by International Harvester using their own designed components.

  • @MrDgwphotos
    @MrDgwphotos Před 4 lety +1

    8:33 Love that reference!

  • @RamonInNZ
    @RamonInNZ Před 4 lety +1

    LOL yeah the "Model Railroader" had a series like that and my favourite railroad was shown lots, "The Rock" did some crazy things with the locmotives and rolling stock!

  • @iamscoutstfu
    @iamscoutstfu Před 4 lety +6

    5:50
    "This is the Americans doing what the Americans do best. Take something that already exists , they adapt it, they modify it improve upon it and off you go."
    Yes.

  • @MrJetFormation
    @MrJetFormation Před 4 lety +1

    PLASMO is the model channel at 9:05 he was talking about. best model channel.

  • @ezrabrooks12
    @ezrabrooks12 Před 4 lety

    GOOD VIDEO!!!!!

  • @jordanulery524
    @jordanulery524 Před 4 lety

    My grandfather worked on these as commander motor pool Ft Knox in the late 30s. He told us that in North Africa German rounds would come in one side, bounce off the other side and rattle around a bit causing a lot of hurt. Grandpa also helped mount the 75s in the first place.

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish Před 4 lety +5

    I can never decide if I like the look of the American or German halftracks more, the german ones do look a bit more menacing with the extra angles, though that may be colored by their association with the aggressive wars of the Nazis. American ones do have those cool louvers on the grill and just look square jawed and manly. Plus they mount .50s, which is always a plus..

  • @HerrReamer
    @HerrReamer Před rokem +1

    I know I'm a little late, but that modeling statement about missing parts. Somehow, someway, I managed to loose a tire for one of the wheels on my Semi trailer. Have no clue where it went. That model went from being a "new for sale truck and trailer" to "tire blow out on the side of the highway" 😂

  • @Grimshak81
    @Grimshak81 Před 4 lety +5

    Kudos to PLASMOs CZcams Channel 🤗

  • @reddevilparatrooper
    @reddevilparatrooper Před 4 lety

    ALLONS!!! Good to see you Sir!! Major Chieftain!!!

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch Před 4 lety

      Hallo!

    • @reddevilparatrooper
      @reddevilparatrooper Před 4 lety

      @@TheChieftainsHatch. OUTSTANDING SIR! I used to be in Bravo and later in Delta Troop before you guys deployed for Iraq and the Stan. ALLONS!!!!

  • @01Bouwhuis
    @01Bouwhuis Před 7 měsíci

    Currently building an early trumpeter kit, everything stated is so true.....