Mithra - Influence of Mithraic Mysteries on the Western World - Jason Reza Jorjani PhD

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  • @paulwilliamson6660
    @paulwilliamson6660 Před 2 lety +129

    All is syncretism.
    Mankind invented gods millennia ago, and 'we' have been playing around with the template ever since.

    • @samanthadejardins9540
      @samanthadejardins9540 Před 2 lety +7

      Facts

    • @paulwilliamson6660
      @paulwilliamson6660 Před 2 lety +11

      @@samanthadejardins9540 astrotheology and syncretism, I should have said...

    • @CourtesyPhone
      @CourtesyPhone Před 2 lety +5

      @@samanthadejardins9540 Man noticed an inate order to the cosmos. Noticed patterns In the stars that mirror our own patterns on earth. Just like the hero's journey mirrors the path of the sun through the ecliptic.
      They've just been trying to figure it out

    • @dharmadefender3932
      @dharmadefender3932 Před 2 lety +15

      I'm agnostic, so I don't say god doesn't exist. But it's very convenient that the only gods we know are made up by humans, and that the evidence for the existence of God is just as good as the evidence for his nonexistence.

    • @paulwilliamson6660
      @paulwilliamson6660 Před 2 lety +4

      @@dharmadefender3932 and we are pretty sure all the older ones are myths nowadays, so, a natural extension of that...!

  • @braedenmoses
    @braedenmoses Před 2 lety +64

    Very few hold a candle to Jason Reza Jorjani, incredible interview. Much gratitude 🌞

    • @seth5394
      @seth5394 Před 2 lety +1

      thomas sowell and him convince people just as well. you know they are so well versed

    • @braedenmoses
      @braedenmoses Před 2 lety +3

      @@seth5394 I love Dr. Sowell’s works, I have only read one of his books though and know there are so many good ones, mainly listened to his interviews through the years. Very astute man 👍

    • @dixonhill1108
      @dixonhill1108 Před rokem

      Guys a grifter.

    • @joshsass3067
      @joshsass3067 Před 11 měsíci

      What an imagination

  • @jonathanjensen189
    @jonathanjensen189 Před rokem +63

    Okay, let me get this right:
    Mithras changes times and seasons,
    Mithras wears a Phrygian cap, and
    Mithras is a hero...
    Dude, Mithras is Link from the Legend of Zelda, the Hero of Time

    • @yashawngray9289
      @yashawngray9289 Před rokem +5

      Lol,i thought the same thing!

    • @aqualuxx
      @aqualuxx Před rokem +8

      Mithras conquers Kronos - god of time

    • @cool77arrow
      @cool77arrow Před rokem +1

      BOOM

    • @reedjones7300
      @reedjones7300 Před rokem +7

      No, Link is Mithras, not the other way around :)

    • @siriusfox195
      @siriusfox195 Před rokem +2

      Coincidence?
      Also, I was thinking about Dark Souls (never played it) But I know a popular religion in the game is sun worship, and all the memes surrounding that.
      This as well reminds me of Roman Mithraic soldiers. I wonder if that's where they were inspired to get that from or if it's also just a coincidence.

  • @deewesthill1213
    @deewesthill1213 Před rokem +21

    Hearing Dr Jorjani is like seeing multiple doors opening up to reveal mysterious realms of wonders that were previously only glimpsed.

  • @SuperLeroy66
    @SuperLeroy66 Před rokem +13

    Jason is one of the most dangerous people on the planet today. That's why I absolutely love him. His discourses on new thinking allowed are amazingly fun.

  • @dharmadefender3932
    @dharmadefender3932 Před 2 lety +24

    Great. Dr. Jorjani is a great religious scholar. He has unique views, so he's not interviewed as often.

  • @merrickc.155
    @merrickc.155 Před 2 lety +36

    I love listening to Jason Reza he's so smart and and a true scholar he breaks everything thing down so that you can explore these themes on your own I'm do glad I found this channel ❤️

    • @maxxwellbeing9449
      @maxxwellbeing9449 Před 11 měsíci

      He’s not as smart as you think, nothing he said on this topic is correct. You might want to watch the actual history of Mithras the Pagan Sun God here. czcams.com/video/lkmNO0-0SNM/video.htmlsi=5tin3tGJ4QFtcItC

  • @mehrshad.0214
    @mehrshad.0214 Před rokem +9

    Tonight in Iran they celebrate the new year. The first day of the spring season and the breathing of the earth and the victory of the sun over the darkness left over from this very ancient ritual, very expert astronomers who built the most accurate calendar in the world according to the angle of the earth to the sun. It is exactly aligned with the earth and reaches the point of balance ❤❤️ 🔥❤️ We have Yalda night and other ceremonies since then, which are the high and low points of this angle. On the first day of winter, when this night is only one minute longer than the other nights, we spend that long night together and stay awake with this precision, because from the next day, the day gets longer every day, and really this is at least five thousand. A year ago, the calculation is beyond imagination, which has remained without the slightest error to this day. Indeed, Iranian culture is so magnificent and beautiful that every Iranian is proud of it ❤🇮🇷

  • @joannkuhr997
    @joannkuhr997 Před 2 lety +22

    I liked Jason's comment on psychic elements of religion. Atheists tend to reject all spirituality as supernatural, but I believe that science will eventually show that it's a real part of the subconscious mind.

    • @MY_VIDEOS_ARE_TRUTH
      @MY_VIDEOS_ARE_TRUTH Před 2 měsíci +1

      This is why religions are very unique to the races and ethnic groups who create them. They are distinct emanations of racial consciousness. Which is why it makes no sense for Europeans to be Christian or Muslim.

    • @Dovahkiin0117
      @Dovahkiin0117 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@MY_VIDEOS_ARE_TRUTHas it turns out tho we can celebrate our differences
      And if your in a diverse area why not learn a lil about your neighbors
      (If they decent people lol)

    • @imax3d539
      @imax3d539 Před měsícem +1

      I'm an atheist but I'm not a materialist or a non believer in the supernatural. Atheist just simply means that I am opposite of the theist position that claims the existence of an external omniscient omnipotent god or gods. I'm more of the hypothesis that consciousness is the only thing that exists and expresses, appears to and interacts with itself from an infinite number of localized points of view all in an attempt to explore infinite possibilities and to know itself. Hence...."Know Thyself"

  • @afshinbiria3024
    @afshinbiria3024 Před 2 lety +14

    By far one of the greatest minds of our time, the man is simply brilliant

  • @annascott3542
    @annascott3542 Před 2 lety +23

    I found this channel through Mythvision and I just wanted to say, I’m loving what you’re doing! This was the 3rd 4th I’ve watched and they've all been outstanding! Jason’s always great. Subscribing!

  • @chunky2540
    @chunky2540 Před 2 lety +21

    Dr. Jorjanis book Closer Encounters is fantastic.

    • @mrbamfo5000
      @mrbamfo5000 Před 2 lety +3

      @Prof. Shahram Arian Fans That's what libraries are for. In Michigan all the libraries in the state are connected. So you can get just about any book you want, I assume it's not just Michigan that does it. You might have to wait a few days for it to come in but who cares. I got a copy of the English translation of Hammer Of Witches that was written in 1485 by the guy leading the Inquisition from a state wide search. Trippy book.

    • @chunky2540
      @chunky2540 Před 2 lety +2

      @Prof. Shahram Arian Fans Barnes and Nobles or Amazon carry it.

    • @kpaulwell
      @kpaulwell Před 2 lety

      @Prof. Shahram Arian Fans b-ok.cc

  • @ryansmith8345
    @ryansmith8345 Před 2 lety +26

    This man is a genius honestly 👏 🙌
    Would love to see you interviewing him more !
    Perfect channel 👌

  • @SmokeShadow49311
    @SmokeShadow49311 Před 2 lety +18

    FYI - the word soldier comes from the word solidus. A solidus was a coin that was used to pay 'soldiers'. 15:40

    • @MarySmith-mu9db
      @MarySmith-mu9db Před 2 lety +1

      I think he was asking if soldius is cognate with sol invictus , rhe most common god among Roman soldiers

  • @SearchfortheMeaning
    @SearchfortheMeaning Před rokem +9

    These are some of the final mysteries. The ultimate truths. Amen 🙏

    • @VSM101
      @VSM101 Před rokem +1

      Actully there wrong about the Mahabarth part about Vishnu praying to Varuna is not true the only reference is in the Ramayan were Rama an Avatar of Vishnu who had taken him an form is told to pray to the sea diety for passage into build his bridge Lanka to conduct the war aginst the Asura Ravana.

  • @FFF-tt6yo
    @FFF-tt6yo Před 2 lety +20

    Please have more interviews with Jason to educate us about western and eastern couture.great conversation.

  • @ImAmerasian
    @ImAmerasian Před rokem +5

    I came across this video searching the relation of Jesus and Osiris. I came across the 4th video to this series and decided to start from the first video. I do believe there is truth to legends and myths. This was very interesting to listen/watch and learn. Jason Reza Jorjani is very knowledgeable of this, and I appreciate you introducing him to me so I can read his books and learn more. I also appreciate your time you spent on your channel and showing images of what your talking about make it easier for me to follow along.

  • @aqualuxx
    @aqualuxx Před rokem +5

    I’ve listened to this one nearly thrice all the way through.

  • @TheShankari33
    @TheShankari33 Před 9 měsíci +3

    The reason why Islam worked so well because of the prayer mat. It represented the first mobile sacred space. Most other temples were land based but everyone wanted to continue praying. The mobile temple, the prayer mat simply had to face Mecca and wash their hands face and feet and step on your carpet facing Mecca. Still works today. All my staff have their own. I live in Bali. They are from Java.
    Thankyou for your brilliant research.

    • @sirfrozsomji3984
      @sirfrozsomji3984 Před měsícem +1

      Washing of hands and feet before you entered the Jewish temple was also the religious duty of the priests and others in the Bible.

  • @zarathustra3976
    @zarathustra3976 Před rokem +6

    great interview... Jason is a giant of an informant

  • @marcosunt1206
    @marcosunt1206 Před 2 lety +9

    Can't wait for a video explaining the arcontic behind social engineering How to resist those evil forces?

  • @Sarke2
    @Sarke2 Před rokem +7

    Always enjoying to listen Mr Reza Jorjani and his views and knowledge, i would add that also Slavic group a people have a lot with Iranian one, even more than Germanic one.

  • @persianyoga
    @persianyoga Před 2 lety +10

    Great conversation, thank you for sharing it. I look forward to your next talk to Dr Jorjani, I'd love to know his thoughts on the physical culture of ancient Mithraeic warrior brotherhoods and Pahlavani culture of the Zurkhaneh in Iran. Thanks again for what you do. Be tireless

  • @FriendlyDemon93
    @FriendlyDemon93 Před 2 lety +8

    Another brilliant talk from Dr Jorjani. Thanks for hosting him. I've subbed your channel.

  • @tinkereyeskelly9437
    @tinkereyeskelly9437 Před 2 lety +3

    Excellent. Our earth is so old and with so many layers thank you
    Regards from Eire-Ireland

  • @conscious_being
    @conscious_being Před 2 lety +76

    Mithra is _not_ a demon in Hinduism. He isn't worshipped much, but not a demon. He is probably the God of Friendship (explains why he isn't worshipped much). Mithr, in Hindi and several other Indian languages means friend. Prime Minister Modi starts his speeches with 'Mithron' meaning 'Friends!'

    • @abhinandup
      @abhinandup Před 2 lety +11

      Mitra is still worshiped today, as the Sun. One of the 12 names for Sun (Surya) is Mitra.

    • @conscious_being
      @conscious_being Před 2 lety +2

      @@abhinandup Correct me if I am wrong, but both Mithra and Surya are mentioned separately among the Adityas in the Vedas.
      Surya is also called Suryanarayana. Does that mean Vishnu(Narayana) is the same as the Sun?

    • @kirstenwelcome4520
      @kirstenwelcome4520 Před 2 lety +7

      @@conscious_being the Adityas are said to be brothers. In other instances, though, I’ve seen Mitra as another name for Surya. In a lot of Indo-European religions one deity can have multiple forms and be seen as multiple separate deities. A good example of this is Varuna, and Agni in the Vedas who are said to be one and the same in some instances of ritual; Apam Napat being the combination of both. Just like Poseidon and Prometheus are two forms of one deity.

    • @conscious_being
      @conscious_being Před 2 lety +4

      @@kirstenwelcome4520 Yes, the Adityas are brothers and if a list of names of the brothers is given and two apear separately, I assume the two are different entities, not one.
      I am _not_ denying that there are several instances where Mithra is used synonymously with Surya (Sun), but those are later than the Vedas in which they are mentioned as separate entities.
      Religions evolve and it is quite likely that those worshipped as separate entities got merged into one later. That is most certainly true of the Mother-Goddess (Kali, Durga, Parvati and innumerable local incarnations).
      I don't want to discuss the dead Indo-European traditions in the same breath with Hinduism, a living tradition.

    • @3rdeye671
      @3rdeye671 Před rokem +22

      The narrator did not say Mithra was a 'demon', he said he and the Ashirya were 'demonized' by the Hindus whilst the Iranians 'demonized' the Daevas. 'Demonized' means slandered, cast in a bad light, negatively projected. Adversaries of the heroes. Like the Titans are 'demonized' by the incoming Olympians in Greek mythology. Or the Formorians are 'demonized' by the Tuatha De Danaan in Irish mythology. Or the Serpent is 'demonized' by the Abrahamic religions in the Bible up to modern times.

  • @TapioSusi
    @TapioSusi Před 2 lety +8

    Thanks for the wealth of information. I like you guys' styles of explaining as well!

  • @tedfrancis3961
    @tedfrancis3961 Před 2 lety +10

    Excellent discussion so far

  • @tedfrancis3961
    @tedfrancis3961 Před 2 lety +9

    2 of my favorite thinkers

  • @terencedavid3146
    @terencedavid3146 Před rokem +2

    The origins of the myriad mythologies, world religions and diverse cultures is such a complex subject and trying to unravel and synthesize the mysteries these three present is a Herculean task and one deep rabbit hole of never ending perplexity.
    However, Dr Jorjani does a fine job of making sense of this unholy mess.
    Thanks gentlemen for all your efforts in trying to unscramble this trillion piece mega puzzle. 🙏

  • @kittyblak393
    @kittyblak393 Před 2 lety +9

    Omg what an encyclopedia of knowledge in just over an hr, and boy does it shut down this xtiany in less than a minute, leaves your head spinning; so grateful to you and mythvision for unmasking all these myths 🌈 🥰

  • @ttttttttt1079
    @ttttttttt1079 Před 2 lety +7

    More Jorjani please! Great episode!

  • @stephaniejordan9211
    @stephaniejordan9211 Před rokem +6

    Jorjani is a legend

  • @TravisTellsTruths
    @TravisTellsTruths Před 2 měsíci +1

    I've been fascinated with Mithra and Zoroaster

  • @54031f
    @54031f Před 2 lety +6

    As much as he makes sense and I really love what he says about all religions, there is a concern that some intolerant fanatic from somewhere targets him. We live in a world where many people are too impressionable and easily influenced.

  • @ilonabaier6042
    @ilonabaier6042 Před rokem +2

    OmG. Forgive me but I must refer to "Déjà vu all over again" is a phrase taken from a famous quotation attributed to Yogi Berra: "It's like déjà vu all over again." RIP Yogi!

  • @sethreniereneo7411
    @sethreniereneo7411 Před rokem +1

    Dr. Jordan Reza Jorjani you are a titan of information thank you

  • @pix3279
    @pix3279 Před 2 lety +3

    nice job gents. Lots to unpack here. Keep digging

  • @haraldharam9334
    @haraldharam9334 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I LOVE THIS
    HAIL MITHRA ❤️‍🔥🙏

  • @AmooPayman
    @AmooPayman Před rokem +3

    Thanks!

  • @GreenSage307
    @GreenSage307 Před rokem +2

    it all makes sence now! thank you for your amazing video!

  • @GandarDooM
    @GandarDooM Před 2 lety +5

    If you try calculate with which zodiac sign this mahayuga started and with which zodiac sign it will end. The period of one sign is averages 2160 years, meaning that kali yuga in 432000 years has exactly 200 signs, Dvapara 400, Treta 600 and Satya 800. Mahayuga in 4,320,000 years has exactly 2000 signs. So Maha yuga has 166 precessional cycles of 12 characters + another 8 characters. If Krishna's departure was 3102 BC which is roughly in the middle of the Taurus period, It had to be the same in the beginning of Satya yuga. So it is to be assumed that this Kali yuga will end in rule of Virgo.

  • @fatosdour2518
    @fatosdour2518 Před 2 lety +14

    Mithra wasn't born of the virgin but out of the rock! Such a crucial element definitely would be shown in his images. Famous gods who were born of a woman or a godess are always mentioned together with their respective mothers. How comes that his mother isn't mentioned anywhere? Now, it could be that he came out of rock on the Solstice. Finally, Roman mithraism was completely different from the Iranian one. The same thing is with Maytrea, although he is developed from the ancient Indo-Iranian god, yet he is quite different in Budism.

    • @constellationsconstantinop3885
      @constellationsconstantinop3885 Před 2 lety

      I recommend reading this before you doubt that Mithra had a Virgin mother. Dr. Jorjani wouldnt make this up

    • @spychiatrist3045
      @spychiatrist3045 Před 2 lety

      No, he isn’t “completely” different. Only slightly.

    • @JohnSmith-tp6xl
      @JohnSmith-tp6xl Před 2 lety +10

      Only non-scholarly sources or writers claim that he was born of a virgin, no ancient source gives such a birth myth but rather that Mithras was born from a solid rock.
      No ancient sources depicts Mithras as being visited by Magi at his birth, only speculations from 19th century writers.
      Also Mithras was not crucified, ancient sources do not even record that he died..
      Also, Mithras did not have 12 disciples, he was just depicted with the 12 signs of the zodiac surrounding him, but a 19th century writer first made this claim and then some American woman writer, wrote about it again in 2001, no ancient sources.

    • @fatosdour2518
      @fatosdour2518 Před 2 lety +6

      A mother of a god would have been mentioned widely. Rea is the mother of Zeus, Semele is the mother of Dionysus, Isis is the mother of Horus, yet there isn't any kind of mention of Mithra’s mother.

    • @spychiatrist3045
      @spychiatrist3045 Před 2 lety

      @@fatosdour2518 actually Anahita is mentioned, and as I understand it, in at least some versions she is his mother.

  • @lmurashchik
    @lmurashchik Před 2 dny

    As a Ukrainian, I love this news!!

  • @samanthadejardins9540
    @samanthadejardins9540 Před 2 lety +5

    What a mind blowing video

  • @johnhartyoung
    @johnhartyoung Před 2 lety +8

    I beg to differ with the amazing, and normally, extremely accurate Dr. Jorjani. Varuna is NOT a female, storm goddess in the Vedic pantheon. He is the male, cosmic judge who carries a noose and rides a sea serpent. I've lived, worked and studied in India nine times and in Bali, Indonesia where I have worked closely with a spirit priest who knows these things as well.

    • @GnosticInformant
      @GnosticInformant  Před 2 lety +2

      Something about Varuna-Mitra in the Vedas that makes me think this deity was important to the Proto-Indo Europeans at one point. And then reading about Krishna in the Mahabharata praying to Varuna was what got me thinking this Deity is High Level.

    • @Mithroun
      @Mithroun Před 2 lety +1

      its true varuna and mithra in vedic literature are both male and in relationship with each other. when they release their sperm (sunbeam,rain) on earth and in water anahita who is the charge of water creates other beings. in zoroastrianism they demonized varuna as demon of homosexuality

    • @godskingssages4724
      @godskingssages4724 Před rokem +1

      This is true. It really bothered me that he kept saying that. Varuna becomes Ahura Mazda; Anahita comes from one of the other warrior goddesses of Venus that were prevalent all over the near East (Carthaginian Anatolia Canaanite Athirat, Greek Athena, Vedic Aditi/Apa).

    • @ArcanumArcanorum17
      @ArcanumArcanorum17 Před rokem +1

      @@godskingssages4724 Ahura mazda of the gathas is not a being but rather a force of nature. Of course the later scriptures composed by the priests made the whole thing more like a mythology

    • @johnhartyoung
      @johnhartyoung Před 24 dny

      @@GnosticInformant Thank you for all of your wonderful work! "The establishment" says this: The god Mithra, associated with light, truth, and oaths, has a complex origin story rooted in Indo-Iranian traditions. The development of Mithra and his later association with other deities like Chronos and the Indian trimurti of Varuna, Mitra, and Indra is an intricate subject that spans different cultures and time periods. Below is a detailed overview supported by scholarly sources.
      Archaeological and Linguistic Evidence of Mithra’s Origins
      Indo-Iranian Roots:
      Mithra's origins can be traced back to the Proto-Indo-Iranian period, around 1500 BCE, where he was a deity associated with covenants, light, and the sun. Evidence of Mithra's early worship is found in the ancient Avesta, the sacred texts of Zoroastrianism, where he is known as Mithra or Mithras in the later Roman context.
      Philological studies suggest that Mithra is linguistically linked to the Sanskrit word Mitra, meaning "friend" or "ally." This connection is seen in both the Indian Vedic traditions and Iranian religious texts, underscoring Mithra's role as a divine guardian of oaths and agreements.
      Source: Boyce, M. (1975). A History of Zoroastrianism: Volume One: The Early Period. Brill.
      Archaeological Evidence:
      The earliest depictions of Mithra are found in ancient Iranian art, particularly in the form of rock carvings and statues from the Achaemenid period (c. 550-330 BCE). These depictions often show Mithra as a youthful figure, sometimes accompanied by the sun, reinforcing his solar attributes.
      Source: Beck, R. (1984). "Mithraism since Franz Cumont." Aufstieg und Niedergang der römischen Welt (ANRW), Vol. II.17.4, 2002-2115.
      The Birth of Mithra: Rock or Woman?
      In Mithraic mythology, particularly in the Roman adaptation, Mithras is famously depicted as being born from a rock (known as the petra genetrix), fully formed and often holding a torch and a dagger. This imagery is symbolic of his divine power and his connection to the earth and the cosmos.
      There is no evidence in the surviving texts and iconography that Mithra was born of a woman or a goddess. The rock-birth is unique and appears to be a product of Roman syncretism, possibly blending Iranian and Roman mythological themes.
      Source: Clauss, M. (2000). The Roman Cult of Mithras: The God and His Mysteries. Edinburgh University Press.
      Mithra’s Relationship with Chronos
      Mithra's connection to Chronos, the god of time, is particularly emphasized in the Roman Mithraic mysteries. In this context, Chronos (often equated with the Greek god Kronos or Saturn) is sometimes depicted alongside Mithras, holding a globe and representing the passage of time and the cosmic order.
      This association may reflect the Hellenistic influence on Mithraic religion, where time and eternity became central themes. Mithra’s role as a mediator between the material and divine realms likely influenced this syncretism.
      Source: Gordon, R. (2009). "Mithras and Time." Journal of Mithraic Studies, Vol. 3, 120-145.
      The Indian Trimurti: Varuna, Mitra, and Indra
      The Vedic trimurti of Varuna, Mitra, and Indra represents an early tripartite division of divine functions: Varuna as the upholder of cosmic order (Rta), Mitra as the god of friendship and contracts, and Indra as the warrior god.
      While Mithra (Mitra) in the Indian context is not directly related to the Roman Mithras or Iranian Mithra, the shared Indo-Iranian roots suggest a common origin. In the Vedic tradition, Mitra's role is more abstract, focusing on social and cosmic harmony, rather than the more militaristic and eschatological role Mithras later assumes in Roman religion.
      The connection between these figures illustrates how Indo-Iranian deities evolved differently across cultures, with Mitra becoming part of a broader pantheon in India while Mithra became more central in Iranian and later Roman religious practices.
      Source: Macdonell, A. A. (1897). Vedic Mythology. Motilal Banarsidass.
      Conclusion
      Mithra's origins are deeply rooted in the Indo-Iranian religious landscape, where he began as a god of contracts and truth. His later associations, particularly in the Roman world, with Chronos and his distinctive rock birth, represent the syncretic evolution of his myth. His connection to the Indian trimurti highlights the shared heritage of Indo-Iranian cultures but also the diverse ways these ancient deities were adapted and understood across different regions.
      These sources provide a solid foundation for understanding the origins and development of Mithra and his connection to other deities across cultures.
      Mithra, originally an Indo-Iranian deity, is associated with light, truth, and oaths. His worship dates back to around 1500 BCE, with his name linked to the Sanskrit word Mitra, meaning "friend" or "ally." Evidence of his worship is found in ancient Iranian texts (Avesta) and Indian Vedic traditions.
      Archaeological evidence includes rock carvings and statues from the Achaemenid period in Iran, depicting Mithra as a youthful figure connected to the sun.
      Birth of Mithra:
      In Roman Mithraism, Mithras is depicted as being born from a rock (petra genetrix), fully formed, holding a torch and a dagger. There is no indication in ancient texts or iconography that Mithra was born of a woman or goddess. The rock birth symbolizes his divine power and connection to the cosmos.
      Mithra and Chronos:
      In Roman Mithraic mysteries, Mithras is associated with Chronos (the god of time), who is depicted holding a globe, representing cosmic order and the passage of time. This association reflects Hellenistic influences on the Mithraic religion, emphasizing time and eternity.
      Indian Trimurti Connection:
      The Indian trimurti of Varuna, Mitra, and Indra has shared Indo-Iranian roots with Mithra. In Vedic traditions, Mitra is a god of friendship and contracts, representing social and cosmic harmony. While Mitra in India became part of a broader pantheon, Mithra in Iran and Rome took on a more central and militaristic role.
      Mithra’s Birth and the Virgin Birth Comparison
      The assertion that Mithra, like Jesus, was born of a virgin is not supported by historical evidence. Mithra's myth, particularly in the Roman context, centers on his miraculous birth from a rock, not from a virgin or a woman. This rock-birth is a unique and symbolic aspect of Mithraic mythology and is distinct from the Christian narrative of Jesus being born of the Virgin Mary.
      There is no credible evidence in ancient texts or iconography to suggest that Mithra was ever considered to be born of a virgin. This claim likely arises from later interpretations or attempts to draw parallels between different religious traditions, but it is not grounded in the historical or archaeological record.

  • @chloewinkworthartist
    @chloewinkworthartist Před rokem +1

    the 23 and a half degree ,the crossing,the galactic disc,the micronova, the sitchin salespitch is thankfully absent..the management of the hybrids,handed to the children of the annunaki ...the interval of time ...loved the pirate tales and the jolly roger...i give thanks.❤

  • @exoplanet11
    @exoplanet11 Před rokem +3

    It would be great if the guest could cite how we know things like "Mithra was born on Christmas" What writings are there describing the religion of Mithra. At the beginning he said that the religion was shrouded in mystery intentionally by its practitioners; so there may not be many texts. If not, then how do we know.

    • @ClulssCrs3310
      @ClulssCrs3310 Před rokem +1

      This is exactly what I keep asking, and I get "we don't know" but still keep saying it is connected to Christmas... I'm still trying to find to origin of Mithras being born on winter solstice.
      I'm still looking how mithras born from a "rock" means he was born of a "virgin". Nothing, absolutely nothing so far.

    • @Dovahkiin0117
      @Dovahkiin0117 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Prolly just arbitrary like Christ being born on Christmas

  • @timsanderson4076
    @timsanderson4076 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The three wise men are the 3 stars in Orions belt they rise in the East and are dominant around winter solstice

  • @deewesthill1213
    @deewesthill1213 Před rokem +7

    I thought that Mitra was a Vedic god of justice, i.e. one that measured good vs. evil. In my opinion, the name may be akin to metric, measure, mediator, minimum, maximum, medium. The name of Maat, Egyptian goddess of justice, might also come from that origin. She measures, by weighing, sins in human hearts by using her feather.

  • @agc796
    @agc796 Před měsícem +1

    love this 🎉

  • @carmelmulroy6459
    @carmelmulroy6459 Před 2 lety +2

    Great guest

  • @debcamp2359
    @debcamp2359 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great discussion.

  • @etidorhpa8711
    @etidorhpa8711 Před rokem +1

    ❤ So happy I found your channel, keep it up!

  • @franciselrojo2922
    @franciselrojo2922 Před rokem

    I love when these channels interview Jorjani. They all are just in awe of him, as he confidently just spews nonsense out of his map.
    An absolute dope who is absolutely convinced he isn't. I encourage anyone to read War for Eternity and therein discover what a thirsty rube Jorjani is.
    Unironically love all these interviews

  • @0therun1t21
    @0therun1t21 Před rokem +6

    I need a diagram for this! So many names to remember that I've never heard before, but I love it!
    I'm very much into etymology but I'm not scholarly or anything, this is fascinating, thank you!
    37:03---is that where the word "parsec" comes from?

  • @kozmickarmakoala3526
    @kozmickarmakoala3526 Před měsícem +1

    🧡🧡🧡💛💛💛💚💚💚YOU TWO ARE AMAZING. MIGUEL CONNER BEING BIG DADDY GNOSTIC.🧡🧡🧡💛💛💛💚💚💚

  • @thotparnassus2617
    @thotparnassus2617 Před 2 lety +4

    Absolute brilliance … freeing wisdom from the serpent

  • @iwasjustintrance
    @iwasjustintrance Před 2 lety +1

    This guy is super fascinating.

  • @matthewperry5121
    @matthewperry5121 Před 2 lety +2

    Awsome Neal

  • @andrewm5612
    @andrewm5612 Před 2 lety +2

    Great editing

  • @dwijgurram5490
    @dwijgurram5490 Před 2 lety +3

    Bhrama's world is the world of matter , where as Shiva's world is the world of the antimatter.
    Vishnu is at the heart of all atoms as the smallest possible sized particle.

  • @jopickett4306
    @jopickett4306 Před 2 lety +3

    The Cilician Pirates seem to have been a sort of Knight's Templar in antiquity. The Knight's Templar even used amanita muscaria sacraments.
    Crazy stuff.

  • @MarySmith-mu9db
    @MarySmith-mu9db Před 2 lety +3

    Great visuals too

  • @ArmchairPhilosopher360
    @ArmchairPhilosopher360 Před 2 lety +5

    I miss seeing Jason Reza Jorjani on the regular on YT like when he was on New Thinking Allowed before he fell out with Jeffrey Mishlove.

    • @sardeeni
      @sardeeni Před 2 lety

      What happened? They seemed tight, and JM defended JRJ’s far right tendencies…

    • @ArmchairPhilosopher360
      @ArmchairPhilosopher360 Před 2 lety +3

      @@sardeeni JM is a die-hard lefty with Trump Derangement Syndrome, and JRJ is an alt-righty who backed Trump. JM's wife got him all spun up and he basically did a diss video about JRJ's politics. JRJ flipped out and felt totally betrayed, and talked a lot of smack on Twitter. JM apologized profusely, but the damage had been done by that point. That was the end of their bromance. Just goes to show that politics ruins everything.

    • @sardeeni
      @sardeeni Před 2 lety

      @@ArmchairPhilosopher360 Thanks for the update; saw the political back and forth on YT but missed the twitter feud. Looks like anger-driven social media even more than politics ruined things.
      Btw, JRJ is indeed a fascist (like many occultists, such as Evola) but quite erudite and always fascinating.

    • @ArmchairPhilosopher360
      @ArmchairPhilosopher360 Před 2 lety +3

      The funny thing about the break up was that it seemed to stem from JM's wife. She thought JRJ was toxic to the New Thinking Allowed brand and got JM worked up enough to publicly distance himself from JRJ's controversial views. JRJ leaked all the communications between himself and JM, which must have been embarrassing, because it made JM look a beta-male cuck.
      I knew JRJ was a fascist back when he was flirting with Richard Spencer and the alt-right neo-nahtseez. He was all but cancelled when I first discovered him on New Thinking Allowed.

    • @spychiatrist3045
      @spychiatrist3045 Před 2 lety +7

      @@ArmchairPhilosopher360 he’s not a fascist but a futurist, or more accurately archeofuturist. It’s an important distinction & the origins of fascism were very discongruous and convoluted involving incompatible distinctly traditionalist vs futurist ideas, just as it was also a somewhat confusing hodgepodge of Leftist vs. Rightist ideas. He’s described his position as “Upwinger”, beyond far Left and far Right.

  • @MrDarius4444
    @MrDarius4444 Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent talk 👍

  • @706easy
    @706easy Před 2 lety +4

    Mind = Blown.

  • @wendysalter
    @wendysalter Před 4 měsíci

    I am a huge fan of Jason and his well-spring of knowledge and have followed him for years to help in my own search for self in the lost annals of time.
    I hope he has found a better sound system since 2 years ago - Neil, yours is good, can't you help him?

  • @hdde8888
    @hdde8888 Před 11 dny

    Intro 0:00
    Guest Introduction 1:32
    History of Mithra 2:03
    Mithra Varuna 4:26
    What is Mithra 9:45
    Who is Mithra 13:05
    Mithra and Soul Invictus 15:30
    Mithra and the Morning Star 21:42
    Mithra and Messiah 26:55
    Mithra and Prometheus 32:51
    Zoroastrianism 37:38
    Persian Calligraphy 42:50
    The Eastern Byzantine Empire 45:16
    The Persian Empire 52:15
    Muhammad 53:35
    Muhammads Death 57:15

  • @cindylomacchi4505
    @cindylomacchi4505 Před 2 lety +3

    fascinating

  • @kaarlimakela3413
    @kaarlimakela3413 Před 4 měsíci

    Crecganford is the channel to resolve and detailed the spread of the Indo-Europeans, and even MORE!!! *if I may, of course*

  • @erikhaegert5426
    @erikhaegert5426 Před rokem +4

    Usually, the word "Soldier" is derived from the word soldarius (= mercenary) which in turn came from solidus (a roman coin).

    • @ClulssCrs3310
      @ClulssCrs3310 Před rokem

      And now Japan uses Salary man to a business worker. Words travel.

    • @ZazaMarkle
      @ZazaMarkle Před 7 měsíci

      This makes more sense than sayig it comes from sol invictus meaning soldiers of sun?? Or sth

    • @user-uo6nv8pf6k
      @user-uo6nv8pf6k Před měsícem

      ​@@ZazaMarkleit's both, sun worshipping mercenaries...sol Invictus

    • @user-uo6nv8pf6k
      @user-uo6nv8pf6k Před měsícem

      So basically migration started near Noah's ark in all directions

  • @e.o9470
    @e.o9470 Před 2 lety +2

    I need that mushroom to get to the higher realms! they used stuffs back then!😃

  • @davepayne2024
    @davepayne2024 Před 2 lety +1

    Fantastic!!

  • @spychiatrist3045
    @spychiatrist3045 Před 2 lety +2

    Fantastic stuff! I just subscribed to your channel, Neil. 🙂👌

  • @user-hq8fc4tp6z
    @user-hq8fc4tp6z Před 2 lety

    thanks....amaziing talk....big hug from Israel :)

  • @richardlopez4318
    @richardlopez4318 Před měsícem +2

    This guy looked so young, only two years ago. Wow, lol.

    • @d6mafia13
      @d6mafia13 Před 3 dny +1

      Right!?! Like what happened to this poor guy lol

  • @pilotnamealreadytaken6035

    The most unbelievable thing about this video is that tie hes wearing

  • @Yellowpsyche
    @Yellowpsyche Před rokem +1

    Amazing !

  • @RahimMehrpoush-er2pv
    @RahimMehrpoush-er2pv Před 5 měsíci

    Very good ❤❤❤

  • @georgenelson8917
    @georgenelson8917 Před 2 lety +3

    There is another modern likely institution that Mithras influenced: FREE MASONRY. The cult was male only, secret society with stages or steps that a member goes through with great rituals.

  • @aqualuxx
    @aqualuxx Před rokem +1

    Please do more with Jason

  • @communication001
    @communication001 Před 16 dny

    Philosophically he is correct to attack the 'reductionist' philosophical materialism thing. But it's then all about being psychic. I deeply contest his assertion about experiments into being psychic.

  • @MrRawdoc
    @MrRawdoc Před 2 lety +2

    Compare Rostam in the Shahnama with the German Hildebrandeslied. Both about a Father killing a Knight he does not realise is actually his son.

  • @joyceruserious7920
    @joyceruserious7920 Před 2 lety +9

    Just a thought, could the book of revelation have been written by a Mithraic under the influence of the beer and mushroom?

  • @SuperLeroy66
    @SuperLeroy66 Před rokem

    The Nike swoosh is actually 23.5゚ as well. She is a Victorious little stinker indeed. Jason is one of the best things that ever happened to New Jersey.

  • @veneratlazulum2033
    @veneratlazulum2033 Před rokem +3

    So did the Mithraic priests kind of look and act like gnomes?

  • @ontheway5446
    @ontheway5446 Před rokem

    Bruh .. this is 👁 opening . Appreciate Ya

  • @user-fq5kg6gk1g
    @user-fq5kg6gk1g Před 9 měsíci +1

    I saw The Sculpture of Mithras Slaying the Bull in Rome

  • @JC-ly8pz
    @JC-ly8pz Před 2 lety +1

    Interview him on breakaway civilizations and how to create them

  • @mikavolland4543
    @mikavolland4543 Před 2 lety +1

    I like Jorjani

  • @kilowhiskeyalpha6078
    @kilowhiskeyalpha6078 Před 2 lety +2

    The twelve deities of the pantheon are the planetary Archons created by Yaltabaoth

  • @lexwaldorf5202
    @lexwaldorf5202 Před 2 lety +2

    Alot of what he's said so far I've seen called into question by other scholars, does anyone know where his sources are? I'd rather not buy his book just for sources

    • @davidwiley3930
      @davidwiley3930 Před 2 lety +1

      Stay away from scholars if u want truth

    • @lexwaldorf5202
      @lexwaldorf5202 Před 2 lety +2

      @@davidwiley3930 This man used to work at the New Jersey Institute of Technology and is college educated to the point of having a PhD. How is this man trustworthy and others with his level of education not so?

  • @ariaazoth4379
    @ariaazoth4379 Před 2 lety +1

    Good info thanks 🙏

  • @davepayne2024
    @davepayne2024 Před 2 lety +1

    Fantastic

  • @rajeshbarya9938
    @rajeshbarya9938 Před 2 lety +11

    According to Indian Mythological history, as it is written in the epics of Ramayana, Mahabharata, and in other Puranas), on Earth along with a race of ordinary humans, there always existed the races or clans and the families of Rakshasas( Soul / pranic energy stealers ), Daityas (Monsters ), Danvas ( Giant Fiend ), Asuras ( Anti - Divine Beings), and Pishachas (Vampires) in ordinary human form. In Jainism and Buddhism, they are known as Vidyadharas (the ones who know dark/shadowy arts), who are born with paranormal powers as these powers are instinctual to them.
    That means they have human- bodies but demonic souls, ( like in these historical personalities - Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, Pol pot and Idi Amin ) anti - dharma energy within them and born with some supernatural powers, of which they become even greater experts as they grow into adulthood. This is described in great detail in Indian Puranas (mythological history )- scriptures where the lives of all these Hostile Beings are narrated.
    And since these Anti-Divine Beings or hostile forces have these Magical Powers so they attack humans on the Psychic planes and fight against the Gods- Angels who reside in heaven to have supremacy over the three realms of existence.
    These Hostile powers are always against the establishment of laws of spirituality on the earth, so humans may not able to evolve themselves into higher beings of eternal light. In the epic of Mahabharata, the son ( Ghatotakacch) of warrior Bhima had these supernatural powers from birth itself.
    Even spiritually advanced beings like Sri Aurobindo & The Mother from Pondicherry, remain under attack from these hostile beings, as we know from their statements and Biographies.
    To save oneself and ones' own family reading and reciting of BagvadGita, DurgaSaptashati(700 verses in the praise of goddess Durga) or any other mantra or holy scriptures would be of great help.
    This battle eternal is an ongoing thing never stops, like The Day and The Night as this is the way this whole creation is structured. These anti divine beings are given the job to create obstruction and obstacles in the journey of the human spiritual evolution whether individual or collective. We humans are creatures of the Day and hostile beings are creatures of the Night. And that is the reason why Indian scriptures warn humans not to roam around unnecessarily after the Sun-Down as during those hours until the Dawn creatures of the Night remain magically powerful.
    -----
    -
    All other races of anti divine beings are also here. They never disappeared. In Kaliyuga their numbers are higher than the other Yugas. They do not look any different from humans like Kansa, JarAsandha and Shishupal, etc. in Dwapar Yuga.
    They look like humans in shape and size but carry anti divine Asurasic souls within them. Only a spiritual warrior would know the difference as he is battling against their anti divine agendas. According to yogis these races of Daityas, Danavas, Rakshas, and the Pishachas exist at all levels of the society and in all the nations. But these beings easily recognize each other as they are always involved in the dark arts of magical tantra. Many of these fake godmen and the god women, false prophets, and members of satanic cults, Heavy Metal music groups and deep states come from these races and always waylaying ordinary humans who follow them, from spiritual paths by making false promises.
    According to the yogis by rough estimates half of the world, population is made up of these anti divine races.---According to the Indian scriptures, Rishi Kashyap had 13 wives and it is through them different species of living beings came into existence. But through these wives' races of hostile beings also came into existence. From Diti came Daityas (Titans/monsters), Danu gave birth to Danavas ( Giants /fiend ) and his wife Krodhvas brought forth the Rakshas ( soul - prana stealer) and Pishachas ( bloodsuckers).
    These are the different races of Hostile beings who have their original residence in the lower worlds but after taking boons from Lord Brahma or Shiva, they take birth on earth and overpopulate the earth, since they are Tamasic in nature and can not think of anything else except complete sensory enjoyment and since they are cruel in their minds, they take pleasure in tormenting humans and remains involved in anti divine actions and intentions-
    -------------------------------------.------
    According to the yogis, half of the world population is made up of these hostile anti divine Asuras beings and they exist at all levels of the society, in all the geographical areas. Many of these beings are projections or the emanations of the Asuras beings who live in the lower dark nether worlds.
    This information is only known to the yogis who have access to the esoteric and the occult realms. One-fourth of the human population is made up of these projected emanates. According to the Indian scriptures, these Asura beings become powerful after receiving the boons from the Lord Brahma or Lord Shiva, which is only after they have done severe penances and the austerities for thousands of years astral/ subtle realities. Mostly since they are power-hungry, they always ask the boons for supremacy over three realms to enjoy the power and pleasures of all the three worlds. And in the process of attaining such goals, they always end up tormenting and torturing both humans and the demigods.
    ---
    Fallen angels in Hinduism are known as Asuras - the anti divine beings. There are four major categories: Rakshas - stealer of souls and pranic - chi energy, Daityas - Giants, Danvas - Titans, and the Pisachas - bloodsuckers - stealer of life energy. All these races are considered to be the different classes of humans as they have the same shape as humans but they are born with some rudimentary knowledge of the supernatural and paranormal powers, which they use against the ordinary, normal humans to harass them and to stop their spiritual evolution.

    • @cosmicjams9585
      @cosmicjams9585 Před 2 lety +1

      Interesting. What is your take on Fatima 1917?

    • @rajeshbarya9938
      @rajeshbarya9938 Před 2 lety

      @@cosmicjams9585 Children saw her first. Mother Mary like all Siddha yogis of the Himalayas was trying to bring a wake-up call for the protection and safety of the whole humanity.

    • @Mithroun
      @Mithroun Před 2 lety

      asuras(ahuras) only became demons when zoroaster demonized devas and deva worshipers. mithra and varuna are asuras too but they werent demonized by hindus

    • @rajeshbarya9938
      @rajeshbarya9938 Před 2 lety

      @@Mithroun
      From Net --HOSTILE FORCES We have mentioned at the outset of this essay that the existence and nature of these adverse forces have been known to the inquiring spirit of man since the earliest recorded history of the race. The occult traditions of ancient Egypt and Cabbala are full of their accounts. Zoroaster of ancient Persia specifically warned the aspirants of the spiritual path about the clever ploys of these hostile beings. The Vedas of India called them the Panis who like nocturnal robbers plunder the sadhakas of their truth-light. Devi Saptashati, commonly known as the Chandi, held in equal reverence with the Gita, has described in great detail the symbolic names and functions of these undivine hostile beings and their ways of waging war against the Divine. Below are the names and the functional roles of some of these adverse beings:(1) Chikshura or the power of distraction; (2) Chamara or the covering power; (3) Udagra or morbid egoism; (4) Mahahanu or Ego-will; (5) Asiloma or Envy; (6) Baskala or the spirit of possession; (7) Bidalaksha or the spirit of malice; etc.-------------------These evil forces and hostile beings act on different planes of consciousness. Their functions vary and they are more or less powerful depending on their respective fields of activity. Some are Asuras of a very high order. The Mahabharata calls them 'pūrve devāh', the 'former gods'. They were godly in nature at one time but subsequently revolted against the Divine and became Asuras. The Asuras are generally found on the mental plane. Rakshasas and Pishachas function in the lower vital. A few hostiles are active in the physical consciousness: the Theosophists call them 'obscure elementals''. But what is noteworthy is that the hostile beings and forces have absolutely no access to the spiritual plane. But why are these adverse forces and beings permitted by the Supreme to exist in the world and tempt and disturb the Sadhakas in their spiritual Tapasya? There is a significant verse in Sri Aurobindo's Savitri: "Nothing is utterly vain that the One has made." So, such must be the case with these hostile forces also. In fact, they fulfil a very necessary role in the life of the sadhakas, although in a negative and roundabout way.

    • @rajeshbarya9938
      @rajeshbarya9938 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Mithroun
      From Net --HOSTILE FORCES We have mentioned at the outset of this essay that the existence and nature of these adverse forces have been known to the inquiring spirit of man since the earliest recorded history of the race. The occult traditions of ancient Egypt and Cabbala are full of their accounts. Zoroaster of ancient Persia specifically warned the aspirants of the spiritual path about the clever ploys of these hostile beings. The Vedas of India called them the Panis who like nocturnal robbers plunder the sadhakas of their truth-light. Devi Saptashati, commonly known as the Chandi, held in equal reverence with the Gita, has described in great detail the symbolic names and functions of these undivine hostile beings and their ways of waging war against the Divine. Below are the names and the functional roles of some of these adverse beings:(1) Chikshura or the power of distraction; (2) Chamara or the covering power; (3) Udagra or morbid egoism; (4) Mahahanu or Ego-will; (5) Asiloma or Envy; (6) Baskala or the spirit of possession; (7) Bidalaksha or the spirit of malice; etc.-------------------These evil forces and hostile beings act on different planes of consciousness. Their functions vary and they are more or less powerful depending on their respective fields of activity. Some are Asuras of a very high order. The Mahabharata calls them 'pūrve devāh', the 'former gods'. They were godly in nature at one time but subsequently revolted against the Divine and became Asuras. The Asuras are generally found on the mental plane. Rakshasas and Pishachas function in the lower vital. A few hostiles are active in the physical consciousness: the Theosophists call them 'obscure elementals''. But what is noteworthy is that the hostile beings and forces have absolutely no access to the spiritual plane.But why are these adverse forces and beings permitted by the Supreme to exist in the world and tempt and disturb the Sadhakas in their spiritual Tapasya? There is a significant verse in Sri Aurobindo's Savitri: "Nothing is utterly vain that the One has made." So, such must be the case with these hostile forces also. In fact, they fulfil a very necessary role in the life of the sadhakas, although in a negative and roundabout way.

  • @johnjingle5884
    @johnjingle5884 Před 2 lety +1

    🌞 Mithraic Sun of the Morning ☀️

  • @sandrosilva1798
    @sandrosilva1798 Před rokem +1

    Mithra in western mythology is a parthian entity. If we look to Rasna, there's no Mithra template. Also for Roma in kingdom and early republic when Satre/Saturn reigned.

  • @amanofnoreputation2164
    @amanofnoreputation2164 Před rokem +1

    The number twelve comes from the psyche, which has an innate proclivity to divide things into fours, like the symbol on the cover of Prometheism; twelve is three sets of fours.
    Even where trinities are present, the fourth member is typically implicit.

  • @tonyhy-nielsen8520
    @tonyhy-nielsen8520 Před rokem

    Jorjani is a top scholar in this field