Who is Yahweh - How a Warrior-Storm God became the God of the Israelites and World Monotheism
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- How did a warrior-storm god become Yahweh, the god of world Abrahamic monotheism? By tracing the earliest history of Yahweh ("The One Exists") to his origins in the area around Mt Seir to his immigration during the Bronze Age Collapse to the Judea Highlands around Shiloh, this episode explores the early history of the Israelite God. How did Yahweh and his Yahwism transform in theater of Canaanite religion - dominated by El, Ba'al, Asherah, Anat and other myth figures? What aspects of local religion did the Yahwists assimilate, reject and contend over in that process? This episode explore the early history of Yahweh and the rise of Yahweh henotheism/monolatry and primitive monotheism.
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"When we allow our faith to dictate history, we betray both" - Esoterica
I like it
Facts matter.
I need to remember that quote. Thank You Doctor.
That was a great quote! Based.
Yeah, that intro!
Spoken like a true scholar
My Youth Pastor once told me that studying Theology as a person of faith can really be a test of that faith. Having to confront your beliefs with facts about early human understanding. This is such a great essay. RIP Uncle Randy.
The Lutherans fix that problem by saying one can't use the historical-critical method of interpretation because the Bible isnt an historical account of events. You can only use the words in the Bible. And maybe Martin Luther. Something like that. My theology is pretty rusty.
Independent search for Truth! The more I learn the stronger my faith has become. So many things get changed with each translation that lately I've gone to the Hebrew text to try and understand things. Once it's been translated into Greek so many things get changed and then another translation into Latin or English even more changes to the text and the meaning behind it.
I'm from Germany and I had religious studies at school. One of my teacher was studying for a doctorate in theology and he described his seminary as atheism factory.
@@sophigenitor sounds very cynical, studying this kind of stuff really should never drive anyone to atheism unless there were already some preverbal wolves in the sheep pen.
@@memeboi6017 Why would someone who isn't 100% committed to their faith spend the time and effort to study theology?
A rabbi once told me.
"You want to know your god? Look inside your self. Wanna know about history? Ask me."
And man was he right. Im glad i found your videos.
You want to know your God "Allah" ( Elohim) Read the Coran "Yahwew" was the god of the people of Sinaï as in egyption papyrus reveal
@@lebladful 😂
When i look inside my self all i see is microbs. If wanna learn history i dig on the archelogy and read history. They are telling fairytales not truth.
@@lebladful you do know that Muhammad wasn’t even knowledgeable on the “previous revelations of God” and in the book you speak of is quoted to “be all ears and believe anything he is told” and the quran sites inconsistent and unreliable stories from the Christian/jewish lore that’s not even in the Bible or historically accurate. He just heard from word of mouth because he was also an illiterate and uneducated caravan merchant
@@lebladful 🤡
“When we allow our faith to dictate history, we really betrayed both” love it, you have my respect sir!
Our Akkadian. ancestors, around 2500 to 2000 B.C., worshiped God and called Him (Aya) and Eal) in Arabic is a letter calling out to someone far away. But they made the angels control the universe without referring to God, so they established what is called (the complex of the gods) consisting of multiple statues, each statue symbolizing the king of angels # Therefore, each king had a specific function, so we find the complex of gods among the Akkadians (ancestors of the Babylonians) consisting of small statues It symbolizes some important angels. Prophet Abraham in the time of the Akkadians around the year 2000 BC, and he took advantage of people going out to celebrate one of their holidays, and destroyed the small statues and put the ax in the neck of the large statue without destroying it # which symbolizes him with the angel of death or (Azar) and in Arabic his names are (Azrael) and (Asher) In the Assyrian civilization # and the Egyptians called him. (Osiris) 🤔 Abraham's goal is to teach his people # If he controls life and death as you think without referring to God, why didn't his companions save # other small gnomes from collapsing or dying
@@alihady-qc6xytu eri testimone del tutto😳😳😳?!!
What if you have faith in TRUTH?
Life is short and we will die and we do not know what will happen to us in the world after death. Just as you believe in accurate scientific research in this life and do not accept random research that is not based on the conditions of science... Likewise, you must be certain that the world after death is also based on wise, non-material laws. Therefore, Our interpretations and analyzes must begin with faith first
@@archangel_one whose truth?
It's refreshing and impressive that you, as a Jewish person (or any Christian or Muslim for that matter) are honestly engaging with the evidence on this. Thank you!
Yep, this is an evidence based, academic channel.
Millions have done this, engaging in the "evidence: they are now known as Atheists as a result.
@@ScottJB
Clearly the Abrahamic god does not exist.
All claimed gods fit perfectly within mad-made imagines and the evolution of such thought. Just Archaic nonsense.
This does not on its own eliminate any god existing. Just none have been demonstrated, have any evidence or are in anyway involved in human affairs.
Some proof or evidence may come to light, but we are looking at such a low chance, beyond 0.1 X10 to the power of 82 conservatively.
I would be more concerned about getting run over by Big-Foot on a E-Scooter.
@@ScottJB No gods to calculate chances on so Zero, I said I was being conservative just giving the number of Atoms in the Universe. Pretending there are questionable assumptions is ridiculous.
You can believe in the golden horned rainbow Unicorn for all I care. No evidence means I don't have to give a shit. Claim it has wings and can fly into space then it is so absurd and counter to known facts, it is a false claim and does not exist.
If you are now forced to remake and redefine, to reinvent and mold a god "who was unchanging forever" to fit modern knowledge and criticisms, that should be your big give away hint it is man-made and FAKE. Pick another one.
@@ScottJB I don't think the "odds of a god existing" are relevant. If there's an unknown deity that actually exist but appear to be undetectable and non-intervening.....then there is no real significance to making any claims about it since there's nothing tangible to give us any information on it. We don't really know what defines a god aside from our own imaginations. No one knows what its attributes would be. There are no observations, no confirmable detectable information. The idea of gods being the product of human imagination is reflected in the human record with many different types of deities, entities, or creatures within stories amongst ancient cultures. If reality produces no definable data on the existence of a god or what composes a god...and then someone goes beyond that to claim: that a specific god does exist, or to know what a god wants, thinks, says, does, or how many there are, or how you should act, or treat certain groups of peoples......well, those are ASSERTIONS.
Asserted claims.
Someone would claim there are no gods if that's what the evidence suggest. Just like people say there are no magical leprechauns, because there's never been any detectable evidence to affirm those supernatural claims that leprechauns exist and can grant wishes. The atheist argument is basically a REJECTION of unfounded asserted claims, not that a deity has to conform to any type of form. Sure, someone can claim that a god(s) may exist, but they can also say "if one does....we don't have any information to say anything on the matter. So, we won't make any such statements until detectable information becomes available to support our position". That would be the proper route to go.
It's interesting that he was a warrior storm god, given that the Greeks also worshipped a pantheon of gods led by a storm god.
I guess that says a lot about how deeply storms affected early civilization as a whole.
Implications are that the prehistoric Indo-European migrations across Eurasia are a likely origin. Their chief god was a storm god. It spread all over and seems to have been adapted to cultures in many places. Which wasn't unusual, at all, for polytheistic religions. Also, much later during the Late Bronze Age, one of the tribes of the "Sea Peoples" (raiders), whom the Pharaoh had settled in the Levant after defeating them in a battle, as part of a peace settlement, is believed to have originated in Bronze Age Mycenaean Greece . The "Peleset" tribe, as they were called by the ancient Egyptians. Believed to have then become the Philistines. Along with the mention in the Egyptian history, there have also reportedly been cultural artifacts from that period found in the area also linking that theory of migration/settlement by Mycenaeans. Although a storm god would've likely already been a staple in the area by that point, so I doubt the Mycenaean pantheon would've changed much in regards to that.
@@NefariousKoel I think that George Carlin said it well that we should worship the Sun. Most of our overt energy comes from it. Storms are really the result of the radiance of the Sun as the cause. But then space itself seems to be a void that is jam packed with potential energy. Is this void at a high level of conscious that only non verbal part of the human mind can intuit? Do we misunderstand it and call it the Creator of the Universe? How is possible to be separate from it?
Baal was sometimes identified with YHWH or El and in the Hellenistic time period there was worship of Baal Zeus.
@@stevenv6463 Those were the days when YHWH was having a Baal!
@@edwardvgarrick8748 Isn't Yahweh said to ride cherubs, not clouds?
"When we allow our faith to dictate our history , we really just betrayed both"
Well spoken Sir.
I like how well versed you are about a myriad of different cultures and theologies , and how you are able to take a step back and outline connections between those without taking a dogmatic tone. This approach makes it much more palatable to those that are less anchored in a particular faith.
Agree with you and may I recommend you a book that full of historical evidence called Vain Traditions.
It’s not accurate at all
When you beat Jehovah's first stage, but then He rips off His shirt and yells, "NOW I FIGHT AS YAHWEH, WARRIOR!"
That was funny😒
😂
You win
🤣 you got me
😂😂😂😂😂
I can't express how much I appreciate your integrity
agree with you on that one
Wow, that’s all I can say. Keeping your religion and history apart testifies of great integrity. I watched this video with great interest and am looking eagerly forward to the second episode.
I don't dictate the history I do my best to be as honest and thorough as I can. I just deeply appreciate everyone coming on the journey with me.
@@TheEsotericaChannel i think we all likewise deeply appreciate your willingness to be a pathfinder 🙏
I'll second that!
The simultaneous outpouring of academic and religious integrity alongside personal honesty and incredibly entertaining content across your livestreams, videos and interviews is truly the most precious gift CZcams has received since its very inception. I hope that content like yours, Dr. Angela’s, Seekers of Unity’s, Religion for Breakfast’s, Let’s Talk Religion’s and the Modern Hermeticist’s will inspire many others as much as it has inspired me. This little corner of CZcams stands as a rock amongst tempestuous waters, and though scholarship and historical research is as fluid and evolving as it always has been, the recognition of that fact is what separates the grain from the chaff. My most sincere and joyous gratitude goes out to you.
Comments like this makes it so worth it - so many profound and sincere thanks.
I couldn't have put it any better!
Completely agree, this is my favourite corner of this platform and this channel in particular is probably, for my tastes, the single best channel on the entire platform in ANY corner of it.
Best comment ever tops mine, and I comment very well always but very glad you for your comment, we should be putting out other channels more often and viewers and creators for the rest of us. I plan to this on my videos! Shoutout to the channels I follow. Stay tuned…
This has the vibe of a canticle and It made me smile hard. (A very Well earned thanks, of course.)
I find your videos endlessly fascinating as a non religious person. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
there is people that were claiming egypt is black
because kemet meant dark soil,,
i stipulated to them if you going to have that logic
than it would also be applied
->to the land of Milk and Honey
would be a white Milky-skin with Honey blonde-hair ,
so the land of milk and honey would have nothing to do with
bees and cows or black africans.
the land of milk and honey would have
everything to do with Milky skin and Honey coloured hair
in their own afrocentric logic.
the Afrocentric quickly block me and then go on pretending
they can have it both ways Black egyptian because of black-land kemet but then ignore
the land of white-Milk and yellow-Honey and pretend that means the land of bees an cows?.
they cannot handle the truth even when you tell them.
Humans are easily deceived.He is the demon who came out of the burning bush
@@JimObsolete I feel sorry for you, for the world that made you feel this guy is a threat. My wishes you find peace
@@JimObsolete sir, are you a gnostic?
Yes, indeed! And there is a special book that explained paganism, it is called Vain Traditions and back up with historical evidence. You may want to read it!
This is seriously one of the Top 10 videos on CZcams
Definitely not better than 8 year olds opening Legos
Not to mention dogs cuddling kittens!@@TheEsotericaChannel
@@nozecone dang you might actually have him with that one. I love deep diving into topics like that. But who doesn't love some cuddling baby animals? Especially across species lines!
You want to know your God "Allah" ( Elohim) Read the Coran "Yahwew" was the god of the people of Sinaï as in egyption papyrus reveal
Did you watch the video? @@lebladful
"Severed hands flying around Anat like a storm of locusts."
damn that so metal!
"Bat metal Hands hard Rockin"
Llamas-with-hats vibes.
@@JakeSmith-em5sh That made me think about how progressive religions are becoming. "Showers of blood" "fire" "doom" "Zombie Apocalypse"
@@dannylo5875 progressive? more like regressive.....
@@junglie Wouldn't that imply they were better before?
"When we allow our faith to dictate history, we betray both" You have my sub purely for this. Absolute Facts
That got me too! Bravo
Saaaame!
This video completely ignores the Egyptian influence in Judaism.
I read Mark Smith's "The Early History of God" a while ago, but while I found it fascinating, I struggled with digesting a lot of it. This video truly helped me grasp a lot of the finer points. Thank you!
It's just so enlightening to watch a man wearing a yarmulke, speak truth and history even while it may negate one's religion. I am Christian, and do the same thing, although a lot of what I say is looked down upon by my congregation. It's hard to always tie truth and religion into the same conversation. Most people who are emphatic about either will never agree. You're awesome and please keep doing what you are doing!
I understand the struggle very much. I am not a closet atheist, but I perhaps am a closet skeptic. For years I have felt a degree of obligation to "look under the hood" to try and sort what is clearly man-made vs what I think still has some lingering sense of divinity, but it is a lonely road and I speak of it little.
I too have been trying to sort it out for many years. I do know that the one who spoke of love, mercy and forgiveness asked us to call his Creator Father. This tells me up to this point he had no other name to point to as to the Character of our True Creator.
As I look in this world of war and chaos it seems a god of war is in charge here. What name is this god mostly called upon in worldly religions? Yahweh, the god of war and upheaval. This just confirms that maybe our Creator Father is not the same deity if we seek love, mercy and forgiveness.
I no longer call myself a "christian" because it is said in John 15:14-15 that if we do as he says we are called Friends, and we will Know All things.
I find this as being True.
@@epicofgilgamesh9964 I’ve actually heard of this, but I think it’s looked at a little incorrectly. In the Scripture it actually does talk about the Israelites including Yahweh into Canaanite religion, that the main thing the prophets preached against.
It can’t negate the existence of an omnipresent and omnipotent one God viewpoint as in most of our current religions. God is God and is all things. Whatever name or characteristics or even dogmatic religion you attach to it, God is God and will always be all things. It is kid of soothing to take the stress of of worrying about which cannon is the correct way to worship.
@@user-cg2tw8pw7j God is nothing like humans, the mere fact that he created them and the universe displays how immeasurably different from everything he is.
yahweh really played the long game but i gotta respect the hustle
😂😂😂
Indeed time tell the world the god is a con man
I swear, that's exactly what I said 😂
I have recently come to this understanding. It’s blown my mind.
You must be a tate fan 😂😂😂
This dissertation deserves a standing ovation for how well you researched, digested and presented the information in an unbiased and professional manner. STANDING OVATION!
So essentially, Yahweh was the angry warrior storm god of a raider cult who gained popularity after the Bronze Age Collapse, became urbanized and had his traits mixed with the much more chill and fatherly El, and eventually came into conflict with Baal who was basically the same as him except a bit less brutal, but eventually wiped him and his cult out and declared himself to be the *only* God. Man, Yahweh really seems like the jerkass protagonist to a cool divine drama.
Let me introduce you to Zeus and his friends.
@@leoelliondeux With the exception that Zeus is not being worshipped anymore and hasn't been for a long time. I'm also not aware of any wars that had been waged in his name (were there any? genuinely curious) or people forced to believe in him similar to christianisation. He also isn't a monotheistic god.
So in the end... "It was a lie."
Sorry... I'm a spiritual person, and this world has no way to help me. Knowing the truth of Gods as my soul aleady knew. Yet I doubted my soul.
I forgive Mankind... "They" will not.
“If we allow our faith to dictate our history, we’ve really just betrayed both.” That is a powerful quote that I will do my damndest to never forget. Absolute truth!
It doesn't make any sense. You can't prioritize something over your faith otherwise you don't actually have faith in it.
@@thefool3424 your name is stunningly fitting to your perspective.
Do you still believe that we originated from 2 humans?
ChatGPT could never write an introduction as beautiful and concise as the one we just heard!!!!
It can now.🤔
Chat GPT: For example, throughout history, religious beliefs have been used to justify wars, genocide, and other atrocities. In such cases, the use of faith to dictate history can be seen as a betrayal of the values and principles that are supposed to guide religious practice.
Furthermore, by allowing faith to dictate history, the accuracy and integrity of historical records may be compromised, leading to a distorted or incomplete understanding of the past. As such, this quote suggests that it is important to separate religious beliefs from the interpretation and recording of historical events to ensure a more accurate and truthful understanding of our collective history.
@@need2know739 we'll end up making the Borg at some point with this stuff ;)
@@TheEsotericaChannel you should read the wars of gods and men by zechariah sitchin
It can now
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"The moment we allow our faith to dictate history we really betrayed both" is the line which I will follow to see history. You have given me such a great teaching thanks for this. 🙏Respect🙏 from INDIA🇮🇳
Agree with you and may I recommend you a book that full of historical evidence called Vain Traditions.
Great video! I LOVE this subject and pretty much everything you cover on your channel…the “Recommended Readings” section in the description is truly appreciated! Thank you, you are scholar and a gentleman!
When this got to El and Yahweh combining, and then Yahweh vs Baal, I was riveted, like I was watching some big action movie. You do a great job telling these topics!
I never realized Yahweh had such a long history before the Israelites. Thank you for taking the time to make such a difficult video.
It's destroys their narrative as the chosen ones. So you won't hear about it typically.
What do you mean ? Did you not read the Bible ? It starts in Genesis ! There was a whole world before he flooded it … and then the time of Noah until Abraham’s until Israel was many many years… where do you think God went all this time ?
@@andrejones2147 I think he's referring to the more secularly agreed upon history of the word, dealing with "yaweh" in a more anthropological sense, instead of referring to the god of the bible/torah/quran which he may or may not believe in
@andrejones2147 you sound like a goof. Adults are talking about history, hush now.
It's important not to underestimate the influence of Zoroastrianism post exile in the conception of Yahweh. The tension you speak of between a universal god and a porochial god is the tension between henotheism yahwehism snd monotheistic Zoroastrianism post exposure to the Persian empire. Between Yahweh and ahura Mazda
Did ahura Mazda have bearing on the old testament/intertestamental understanding of Satan? For instance...in the way the Greek Pan shaped that entity's physiognomy?
@@jazmendunham7666 idk but that would certainly be a great subject for a graduate thesis
@@jazmendunham7666 From what I hear actually, yes! The conflict between Ahura Mazda and Ahriman is thought to have influenced the relationship between God and Satan, turning it into more of an adversarial relationship than what it was in Judaism.
This concept of blending 2 different Gods into 1 needs more attention. Thanks for the info.
I really like that humility, scholarship is really just a process of "failing better"
Yep anything else is hubris
As soon as El assimilation came up, I was just waiting for that Psalm 82 shout-out, and on the edge of my seat when you mentioned El's divine council. You made my day! Thank you!
And I am deeply impressed how well you can summarize in just over forty minutes here, what I'd consider the most memorable and significant chunk of my undergraduate studies. And I still learned a thing or two! I found your channel maybe two or three weeks ago, and I am thoroughly enjoying it. The depth and breadth of your knowledge on this scholarship blows me away.
I know!!! El and Yahweh is such a complex, fun, and complicated issue and the fact he sums it up pretty well in 40ish minutes is impressive as hell
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Hebrew version of Joshua 24:14 is another great verse showing that people cannot continue conflating Yahweh with the Elohim. It says to worship Yahweh and put down the Elohim (that are repeatedly mentioned in Genesis).
@@johnnada9058also the connections between Chemosh/Utu and Elohim further distinguish them from Yahweh.
@@johnnada9058 these people have ruined and butchered both hebraic meaning of words and Old English sub put down Elohim Elohim means god simply so it says put down weird gods are false gods strange Gods strange Idols that's what it means roughly and EL is male and was adopted to Latin if you look at old Latin classic Latin they don't have that it was adopted from hebraic classic writing but if you cannot find it in the Bible or modern Torah none of these Scholars are actual Hebrews they made up their own religion.
Thank you so much for your honesty.
I escaped a southern Baptist extremist cult the day after I turned eighteen, but spent the next five years desperately trying to hold onto the theologies I'd grown up believing so completely, and rectifying them with the real world I'd suddenly found myself in. Learning much of what you've discussed put that to bed and gave me peace, finally, and I took the first name El as a reminder of the very same truth you've explained so well here.
Thank you
I’ve been raised as Catholic and I find your video enlightening and informative, no one in many years has ever explained to me the historical origin of the God I worshipped for so many years. Thank you.
If the historical origins of gods were exposed, all of the Churches would lose their meal ticket.
@@jddwyer6089 You probably right, personally more I learn about history of religions more I believe in a superior being.
I tried talking about the origins of Yahweh with one of my Christian friends (she’s extremely interested in polytheistic religions, to the point where she markets herself as an expert on them) in a really friendly way and she acted as if it was the most blasphemous thing anyone could ever say.
The bible in general does have this running theme of God being p i s s e d whenever you try to worship anyone except him. There are so many stories that have this hook like of you will be punished if you don't worship god and only god. or bad things will happen to you if you don't worship god. So yeah, to the uninitiated, talking about the polytheistic origins of Judaism is blasphemy. Hopefully you're friend warms up to this. :P
because the bible's God is actually yahweh .An 8th dimentinal being ,A diety .
@@macmoney2043 lol
God says in the Bible that he's a jealous god and that no other shall come before Him.
I don’t think one can market someone as an expert in different religions unless they separate themselves from feelings, instead focusing on facts and the stories that happen around the deities.
Every god's lifespan is equivalent to the lifespan of the culture that supports it
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As an archaeology student and folklore enthusiast who has thus far put off reading the bible, this video was a nice contextualization of so many familiar ideas. Thank you.
My favorite section of the Bible is _Samuel_ and _Kings_ (obviously cuz I'm named after it lol). It's an excellent jumping-in point for modern readers that covers the decision to appoint the first king of the Hebrews, how the head of the temple Samuel had a whole bunch of reasons why having a king is a terrible idea but went ahead and appointed one due to pressure from the people, going all the way up to the reign of King David and all the pros and cons that came with that.
Samuel / Kings is a straight 4 books of solid narration focused on just a few consistent characters in-depth and why they made the decisions they made.
Unlike books like Deuteronomy or even Exodus, the whole David arc holds up really well in terms of readability and narrative focus. Could easily be adapted into some _Game of Thrones_ type drama if you dug into the history around it and fleshed out the enemy factions a little.
As I remember the legend of Abraham has Abraham leaving the city of UR in Sumeria and wandering in the dessert. When he asks the voice that whispers in his ears “which god he is ?”. The voice responds “I am God” or simply “El”.
Gross. I ate some of that dessert🙁
Thank you for even attempting to cover such an enormous concept in such a short time. Really cool stuff.
"When we allow our faith to dictate our history, we really just betrayed both." Sagely spoken, good sir!
I mean it wouldn't really change the fact he is God at least for me it wouldn't
@@jamesblack4411 It should change your perspective on your faith. Given how your god is proven to have once been part of a polytheistic religion and a minor god in that religion.
You’re essentially saying “lalalalala, not listening” in a polite way.
It's sad because people can't deal with the _facts don't care about your feelings_ thing when said facts go against their beliefs
@fionn_mac_ribs7113 you can't prioritize something over you faith otherwise you don't actually have faith in it. So the saying doesn't make sense. Faith by definition means to believe in something without proof or evidence.
@@fionn_mac_ribs He was introduced into that pantheon by humans, then has to fight his way out of it. He orders the Asherah poles and images of Baal destroyed, basically destroying the rest of the pantheon as I believe he always intended. None of the actual prophets associate him with these other gods, and in the Bible he clearly makes them his enemies. "Thou shalt have no other gods before me"
I usually have no patience for videos in which one guy just stares into the camera and delivers his monologue, but Dr Justin Sledge actually captured all my attention because what he was saying was so deep and evocative. I found myself replaying short segments over again to make sure I was following what he was saying. I almost never do that with anyone else's videos.
SO thankful for the book recommendations at the end. I was getting ready to ask for suggestions in the comments, but you succinctly addressed this at the end. Have a great day!
Another channel recommended this one and I’m grateful I found this one! I had been confused trying to do my own research on clarifying some of exactly what was covered here. I actually found more than one could ask! Thank you for the wonderful material!
I so appreciate this video! There was A LOT of dense information, but it answered some questions I've had for decades. See, I was "that kid" in Sunday school that asked the awkward questions, labeled a "doubting Thomas" from about 2nd or 3rd grade. When I was 12 or 13 I asked, " What happened to change God from a God of War to a God of love and peace? It sounds like multiple personality disorder to me." And was promptly kicked out for "being disruptive." Finally! I found a scholarly video that provides a reasonable and nearly scientific explanation. Thank you, so very much!
Wow, you nailed it as a young kid!! Most adults are oblivious or in denial
Yes I always wondered that, first and second testament God have never seem to have anything to do with each other
I've always asked questions too. I grew up Southern Babtist so the switch was waiting on me when I got home. Sometimes the belt, depending on which parent was hitting me.
Whenever I watch a video by Esoterica, I feel like I'm getting a University lecture FAR more engaging, fascinating, and Incredibly thought provoking than anything I've learned in a lecture theatre. Thank you for sharing your knowledge Doctor.
This has got to be one of the most interesting content I've come across on CZcams in YEARS. I'll be sure to check out the rest of your channel! Seems like the kind of thing I would binge watch.
Anyone else came here from his conversation with Alex O'Connor?
Fantastic! I've studied the origins of yhwh for so long and never heard it put this succinctly before. I always learn new things on your channel. Thank you!
There's something romantic about a brutal warrior growing into a wise and compassionate grandfather. The thought of the Yahweh known to the present wistfully remembering his rambunctious youth is rather endearing.
Christians still think of Yahweh is kind of a moody and unforgiving badass of a god.
@@ColtraneTaylor That’s Jimi Hendrix. Watching the guy who keeps debunking Jesus makes me want to completely clear my mind of the story of the Israelites. Why do I have any connection to those people. Is it love of God is it fair? God is this guilt. Is there any proof of any of it, maybe there was a guy name, Abraham. Surely they were some characters… And apparently there was a temple or two. But I think that any of it came from “God”… It’s a suspicious is any story about any God at any time any time. I’m a late bloomer.
"When we allow our faith to dictate our history, we really have just betrayed both."
I was listening to this while I was driving and I almost crashed my car!
i'm non-religious, but theology fascinates me as an academic specializing in psychology and with strong interest in anthropology. i have a lot of respect for religion, and i also respect and appreciate your foreword regarding religious implications. honesty, acceptance of the truths we have, and adapting when we learn new information are the only way we have forward.
True... Once the 3rd Dimension connects or the Outer Reaches is breached by the others from beyond the Stars... Mankind will shatter in more ways than one. Both religiously in all ways and physically in all ways. As a world civilization and law of each era.
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 not what i meant but go off
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You will be one with the Q, and you will not resist. All hail the Q. The Progenitor of Life and Xodzrygshir the First Lement.
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Sir, I am confusion, where is the merch store!?? Been searching for the link in every video since the first time you mentioned it. What am I missing?
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Store tab on the channel page - thanks for asking!
@@nathanielbarraza760 lol you mean the person who says global warming is gods judgment? do you have any familiarity with this channel or no? keep pseudoscience and misinformation away from this place. this is a place for academic material.
@@alexlobato-nv6lx 32:39 i do think
As a Christian, I find the way God represented himself to civilizations across history fascinating!
Nah, is the islamic god
Almost like fiction.
@@Rokiotop900 it's literally the same God bro, we can describe him as the "Abrahamic God"
@@Rokiotop900 No it's Baal.
@@shaansingh6048 No it's not it's not the same god. The question comes down to one thing and one thing alone. Whatever your belief is HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH JESUS CHRIST? And only ONE SINGLE GOD CALLS HIM SON. Not Allah, Not baal (same god) and not any other god confessed that they are the FATHER OF JESUS CHRIST (the second of the Godhead of Father Son and Holy Spirit)
I'm literally binge watching all your videos, you're so freaking awesome! ✨
Your scholastic humility is impressive, I saw no shortcomings here. Thank you for sharing, Dr. Most informative, very, very, interesting. ❤
This is my favorite episode so far. Your research is so in depth it boggles the mind. And your dedication to truth over belief is noble...This episode made so much sense of the Yhwh of the Bible. Information is a powerful tool
Justin, if there are any shortcomings, they are certainly NOT due to your efforts. Quite simply, a magisterial introduction for the masses. Thank you!
Love it! "when we allow our faith to dictate our history... We just betrayed both." so good!
You have swiftly become one of my favorite channels on this website! Every video is filled with such dense information! Especially this one, i feel like i am understanding so much of the imagery and symbolism of the bible through this analysis
I am so impressed you even tackled this topic let alone did such a good and thorough job. Speaking of your frequent jokes during the video of " why isn't this a heavy metal song ? " that totally reminds me of an obscure game people can play online ( not released in full. More like doing rock paper scissors in that anyone can play it and everyone owns it ) called " Bible Verse or Heavy Metal lyrics " where you just say either a bible verse or heavy metal lyrics and everyone else guesses which of the 2 things it is :3
Actually, I study in the historical musicology of Hebrew recitation, and to tell you the truth, a lot of the Hebrew Bible's poetry very well could have sounded like what we call 'Rock' or 'Metal'.
We can at best reconstruct tradition-strands of the melodic motion of any given piece, but for Rhythm, we are on much more solid ground.
I've successfully decoded the syllable-lengths of most song-poetry corpuses (it's not easy to do completely, because rules for syllable length evolved along with peoples's conception of what constitutes a syllable, and thus the length of vowels and the weight of consonants themselves evolved with the Hebrew language- and so older and newer poetry in the Hebrew Bible are not all as rhythmically even when certain later ways of pronunciation are applied... but most of it does work well when the oldest ways are inferred/reconstructed and applied.)
Anyway, yeah. Rhythmically, I mean, there are many songs in the Tanakh that remind me of metal. Psalm 2 reminds me of Power Metal, for example.
That sounds fun! A musical version of Hassid or Hipster. 😊
This is hilarious!
I’m an early career RE teacher with a background in philosophy, and this video is one of the most interesting things I have come across in any of my studies. It is absolutely fascinating and so insightful. Your comment at the start; “if we allow faith to dictate our history, we betray both.”
Absolutely electrifying.
The content is super interesting and enlightening, but I also want to compliment your presentation. Your narrative is easy to follow and I appreciate your dry and subtle humor. Definitely subscribing!
I very much like the way you present the material, setting aside any biases, religious or otherwise. Outstanding. And the one line , "When we allow our faith to dictate history, we betray both," is truly profound. I'll never forget that. I cannot thank you enough for giving your thoughts to the people of our world.
I can't express how long I've been looking for a video like this. Thank you!
I've watched this 4 times on a loop so far. It's so fascinating. Thank you for this.
As he said himself, there is a lot of content about it. Don't fixate too much on his perspective, although it is a very good one. It is his in the sense that he put it together, but he would not claim credit over it. Learning from his scientific rigor, spread your wings!
CZcams's been recommending some really good channels recently. I love this type of content
As a devout Catholic, I love and appreciate learning of the origin of my faith through other perspectives outside of sacred scripture. Thank you, Dr. Sledge, for this content.
Nothing sacred about any of these Jewish fairy tales.
@@prestonknodelliii838 how so? These people wrote these things, died for these things such as Jesus Christ whom they claimed they saw and still die to this day and everyday since the death and resurrection of Jesus? Doesn't sound like it to me. Paul changed from a killer and persecutor to the most loving and enriching person all by the hands of Jesus, Moses gave up all the riches and fame he could have had in order to serve the Lord his God in the wilderness for most of his life
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Sun worship and moloch is what the Vatican upon
Your content has been so healing for me, it gives such a real, refreshing, full picture to religion.
This is a truly profound and powerful episode.
Very interesting evolution of concepts, I'm surprised I never bothered to look into this more. Actually adds quite a bit of context I was missing out on. I feel like I learned a lot.
Thank you for the impartiality as well, its refreshing to see someone who is still capable of being so.
I enjoyed your episode... Thank you for making it. I know the task was immense.
Please make this a full semester series.
Needs to be....at least that long!
@@TheEsotericaChannel Dear sir, thanks for your great job, but ancient people did not "thought" about name Yahweh, they have "felt" and "seen" a God which they just named with a word Yahweh, they had directly perceived him straight inside of their mind with their attention. We modern people thinks that ancient people's mind, and logic constructions, and patterns of mind were the same as ours, we base such conclusions at our "understanding" of their pictures, and sculptures, and texts, and buildings, but this is just our cognitive mistake. Ancient people were absolutely different inside, their alive attention was absolutely different. We modern people can not see, what they could see.
Please!
@@backupviber6285 Citation please.
@@Sundar... this is a part of my dissertation for domestic psychological school, with collected facts after research from many various sources. Generally this is real alive knowledge that opens with your own alive attention and perception, not an abstract writings in books for many talks. You can learn it with yourself, just continuously asking yourself Who you really are, and after sometime you will note a huge difference of your perception and changing patterns of your standard thoughts. This leads to real vision, not a "thinking"
“When we allow our faith to dictate our history we fail both” such a healthy mindset!
Thanks for making these videos. You are far more intelligent and credible than the vast majority of CZcamsrs.
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Indeed, may I recommend you a book that full of historical evidence called Vain Traditions. Amazing book!
This is, without a doubt, the most amazing content I've ever seen. I have *always* wanted to see a well researched, documented series on esoteric/occult beliefs and theology, since the early 2000s, and finding this channel is like scratching an itch that's been just out of reach for 30 years. Thank you so much for making this so accessible and engaging. :)
Really? Most amazing ever?
Very erudite, scholarly and accurate summary of our current understanding of the subject. Very impressive. Haven't seen any of this channel's videos before, so I was skeptical at first - too many uninformed videos out there.. So this was a pleasant surprise. Very nice introduction on how honest it is to make faith the handmaiden of reason once again - even if we find the results uncomfortable or troubling.
Thanks for watching and the kind words!
It’s like our gods are based upon our level of awareness, as humanity grows and evolves, so must the gods. The history of the assimilation is a reflection of the awareness of humanity and our belief systems over time.
Looking at what is happening in the world now is kind of giving me a new perspective on how religion came to be what it is. Not really how it came to be a thing in the first place, but how it got to where we are, now. Because Pagan cultures were always completely at home with adding to their religions or creating new interpretations of things, but never with abandoning religion altogether. A God only ever stopped being worshipped if it's entire purpose was completely absorbed by another deity to the point of redundancy. Hell, with many religions, you could walk across all the nations of a specific culture group and get several different names for the same exact deity that weren't used elsewhere, as well as hear completely different & contradictory stories about them & the origins of the earth which would all be being believed by some practitioners of the exact same religion at the exact same time.
But, religion and society influenced each other greatly. Societies started with simple ideological principles which were probably put in place for seemingly sensible reasons and got more complex the more complex society itself got. Even looking at terrible things, like the Jews demanding that women should marry their rapists- well, if women aren't able to do certain things a man can do by law, then they are partly useless for a parent to keep on once marriable & if it's colloquially accepted that men refuse to touch women who've already been touched, then you'd be stuck with a useless mouth for the rest of your life if you didn't force that, as terrible as that is. And Religion began to, not only explain how the world formed, but also why society operates by the laws it does, why people are supposed to find one thing acceptable and another thing unacceptable & adding the element of a command by an all powerful deity scares people into being rather strict about application, irregardless of the harm it's capable of doing.
That harm created a world where a lot of people may have fell through the cracks or felt disenfranchised by the system. Empires rose & wildly different cultures shared knowledge and became brothers & we end up with a couple failed early attempts at new religion in Atenism & Zoroastrianism before we basically end up with Christianity, Islam & Bhuddism virtually all at once, who begin dividing up the whole of the earth between them. I'm starting to think these people either meant well in trying to save all those disinfranchised people, but didn't realize that what they were teaching was creating a new version of the exact same problem they were trying to solve, or if they were just so angry, they wanted to invent a new standard of perfection that they were able to hold to and force everyone else to hold themselves to it too, to cause people deliberate pain as a punishment for disinfranchising them in the first place. Maybe even a mix of both? Of course, all those religions went about carving up the world in wildly different ways from one another, but I do think they all arose from a similar place, honestly.
Now, we're kind of at a place where it's happening all over again, but people are fighting over whether we should alter the pre-existing ways yet again, bring back a modern version of the old ways, or just abandon the concept of religion altogether as archaic and damaging.
For me, it's the opposite. As humans become wiser, our gods seem more ridiculous and feeble.
I wonder when people will start to say that god created the internet.
@@milliondollarmistake now that would be an interesting debate… was the internet divinely inspired?? Wonder what the founders of the internets’ belief systems are…
And now where we can see billions of light years in space they now say God is beyond space and time
Great quality of information and production! I appreciate it, thank you ❤
You really gave so much information in such a short time and that too without us getting bored. Thank you for your efforts, keep up the good work.
CZcams recommended this video and I’m so glad I watched it! It’s the first I’ve seen on this channel and I’m very impressed. I’ve been interested in how Christianity evolved into what it is today, and this was my first introduction to Yahweh history. It took over 5 hours to get through the video, with all the pauses I needed to look up something named or discussed (yes, it definitely could be a semester course and where do I sign up?!) or to rewind and listen to a piece several times. Overall, it was fascinating. Very well done, thank you!
Sometimes CZcams gets it very right💛
Nothing to do with christianism here.....
Agree. Of necessity I accessed my dictionary several times. I'll subscribe. Although I regard religions as silly, the historicity of their origins within unscientific minds, and within the global events of their times, is absolutely riveting.
The sub 1% genetic difference between chimpanzees and humankind has wrought some wonderful changes.
@@MrZRecords Christianity literally developed from Judaism this has very thing to do with the development of Christianity 😐
All of it originally stemmed from the allegorical storylines of earliest humans plotting the seasonal changes for the glory of harvest and teaching the celestial maps for community encouragement in the collaborative understanding of farming in pre pagan cultures worldwide- history gives count of dozens of storylines which parallel the structures in the allegorical expression of the night sky. Read the origin of all religious worship. Its solar mythology. Also, humans have developed many times. Pre- OUR historical written records, racism was not in existance, and environmental hysteria was recorded to be catalystic for religious splaying with the warfare of survivalist propagandized power vacuums.
This was a great episode. I'm really enjoying how your choice of subject matter is spreading. You've been covering a lot of great topics recently.
You achieved what you wanted with this episode, for me at least. Taking what information you gave and putting into both context and a pithy content was fantastic and a perfect setting for me to learn something interesting and useful about a topic I would never have delved into otherwise. Thank you so very much.
i second this
This is the first time I see someone talk about this and I'm so excited as the entire Yahwe/El thing has been on my mind for years and years.
God has led me on this journey of exploration and this is the first real video where I feel like the origin of something I love has been put before me in an easily digestible way. From a 25 year old student thanks :)
Amazing video, as always. Thank you, Justin, for your attention and absolute intelectual honesty.
Let's not forget. This is a much needed channel and we'll presented on convieniant portable, handheld device.
Thanks for sharing this knowledge and wisdom, it's genuinely staggering that content of this quality is freely available 🙏🏼
This host is a profoundly civilized human being.
You might just be a perfect academic. Complete dedication to the material you study with an uncanny ability to separate your faith from the information you present, without losing stock in either. You never cease to amaze esoterica :D
How is that preferable to an academic who does not hold beliefs in he supernatural or pseudoscientific? I find the ability to be irrational in a specific area of life a shortcoming, not a desirable ability.
@@vids595 Please don’t tip your fedora at me. Someone who can put aside their personal beliefs to teach something that conflicts with those beliefs doesn’t have an academic shortcoming, they have academic integrity. If a teacher is a devout Christian but chooses to teach the contradictory theory of evolution without batting an eye or trying to insert their beliefs to the lesson, do those beliefs invalidate their teachings?
No. To teach fact, regardless of your feelings or the religion you subscribe to, is real genuine academic integrity. Just because someone has a religion doesn’t mean they can’t also be dedicated to fact.
Academic shortcomings would be if that hypothetical teacher, or Esoterica for that matter, were to sit in front of a class and say “oh this is what they say but I know they are wrong because of (insert belief here).” which Esoterica has never done.
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
The Darwinian model of evolution does not contradict Christian theology. What it contradicts is creationism - the belief that beings exist now as God created them thousands of years ago. The geologist Charles Lyell, who was a friend of Charles Darwin, presented evidence in his magisterial three-volume work titled Principles of Geology for the understanding that the Earth had to be older than 6,000 years as claimed by the Bible. Thus, scripture was contradicted. The real question here is not “can science be reconciled with theology?” It is really a theological or intellectual conflict between people who adhere to the letter of the law (Christian fundamentalists and creationists in the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and Protestant Churches) and those who adhere to the spirit or essence of the law, as in the case of German theologians like Thomas Muntzer and Paul Tillich. The reason why Paul Tillich, a 20th century theologian who, like Jacques Ellul, Nikolai Fyodorov, Vladimir Solovyov, Nikolai Berdayev, Reinhold Niebuhr, Soren Kierkegaard, Rene Girard, Teilhard de Chardin, Fr. Georges Lemaitre, Sergei Bulgakov, Maria de Naglowska (the 20th century Christian Gnostic, theologian, universalist, humanist, libertarian socialist, and one-time lover of Julius Evola, the right-wing reactionary Italian scholar and self-described “Pagan Traditionalist”), is never brought up in theological debates or intellectual debates between Christian apologists and atheists or humanists is because the tradition of exegesis or biblical hermeneutics is something most people who are anti-religious don’t give a rat’s ass about; thus it becomes impossible for them to see how any theologian could suggest, as Paul Tillich did, that “there is a latent spiritual community” in the Pagan philosophers and the Pagan mystery cults, and in Judaism, Islam, and Buddhism as well. Paul Tillich authored Christian apologetics but he saw other religions and cultures as having some inherent worth and dignity and pushed for religious socialism.
Almost all of the Christian theologians I mentioned above were defenders of Christian socialism as a theological or intellectual stance. Yet if you only pay attention to the loudest and most vocal of Christian theologians, you’ll only get the ones on the Christian right. You won’t get to hear what David Bentley Hart, an Eastern Orthodox Christian and philosopher has to say about the nature of the divine or the existence of God. Another Christian socialist (David Bentley Hart is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America).
The statement “I don’t have to be a scholar” is going to turn the younger generations into dim witted imbeciles like Richard Dawkins. Dawkins is a biologist and a scientist, not a theologian. Yet he takes every consideration of sacred scriptures as literal renderings of scripture. The Homeric literature did not, in fact, have the Pagan philosophers and the Pagan mystery cults to interpret the Homeric literature - no, only the books in-and-of themselves communicate what it is that Pagans actually believed and practiced. This approach to the study of theology or religion ignores the academic research in theological studies or intellectual studies more generally, which give us new insights into the nature of reality and thus reflect upon our interpretation of sacred scriptures.
The statement that all theological or “supernatural” beliefs are irrational is neither offensive nor an argument which has convinced me to give up my own Pagan or occult religious beliefs. That is because I consider the mystical and the sacred as relating to certain universal and objective moral truths which can rightly be considered divinely-inspired, inasmuch as God - from a philosophical or an intellectual standpoint - is the metaphysical groundwork of all being, ontologically speaking. Thus I do not need a dogmatic theology or a formal dogmatic religion to arrive at this Truth - it is metaphysically True inasmuch as it combines reason and faith into a harmonious whole. The rational intellect must be merged with the believing heart that beats for its Gods and for the experience of initiation into their sacred mysteries or sacraments. In our tradition, the Gods are all aspects of one Godhead, and an individual takes one of the deities and devotes his worship to it and its sacred mysteries as his God, or as the supreme personality of God from among the various deities. Given that my philosophical or intellectual positions are based in a metaphysics of objective idealism, or the belief that reality is essentially mental in nature, it is very easy for me to believe in a personal God from a more classical theistic perspective: one who absolutely does interact with us through our intuition and through the practice of prayer, ritual, personal sacrifice, initiation, and contemplation (or meditation).
The pursuit of knowledge and culture and the cultivation of the soul or mind as the essential nature of man (his eternal, unchanging, True Self) being the central aim of our religious observance, it is necessary to break free from the chains of eternally unchanging theological dogmas and religious laws that are intent on keeping man from attaining to his Higher Self or individuality by teaching him to believe in “reverence for the ancient law” and “the fear of God.” (which is not only the beginning of wisdom for religious fundamentalists but the end of the cultivation of any kind of wisdom).
The attempt by Abrahamic religious fundamentalisms to hobble everything that is beautiful and strong through adherence to an uncritical reading of the Five Books of Moses and the Qur’an is an approach to the study of scripture that is diametrically opposed to the experience of initiation into a set of sacred mysteries that the religions and cultures of the world - through their differences of opinion about Truth - are supposed to teach, enlighten, and liberate. While conservative and modernist interpretations of religious belief both have their merit, there is quite literally no pedagogical or educational value to the theology, legalism, or authoritarian religion that has been pursued so assiduously by the “Christian right.”
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@@duhmitryov you have described compartmentalization. And cognitive dissonance. Hardly anything virtuous about that.
This is an awesome video to get all the confusing information out there sorted and streamlined. Great help, thanks!
That was explained about as well as I have heard anyone. Its such a complex subject that you were able to navigate in a short clip. This was the first time I have watched any of your episodes. I will be sure to watch more.
The "Queen of Heaven" was a title of Inanna. Inanna became Ishtar. Who became Astarte. So any reference to "The Queen of Heaven" is most probably a nod to Astarte / Assherah assimilation.
A title is a title. A connection only exists if there was one done. For example, is the native religion of the natives in Brazil derived from Indo European Mythology and Semitic Mythology? Because Tupã also has the title of a Storm and Order god of wisdom and soldier bravery.
Inanna,Ishtar, Lilith, Lucifer AkA "The Queen Of Heaven" Are All The Same Being
Another quite splendid episode, pitched just right so as not to overwhelm the non-specialist, nor to bore those with a little more familiarity with this dauntingly dense topic. 🙏
This is absolutely fascinating, thank you for making this video.
I really respect your ability to step back from your own beliefs, and indeed any religious beliefs, and view this topic just as historical information to study. It's an ability that few have
I think this is the best channel I’ve found on CZcams.
Your content is a gem in the caves of such controversial topics. Thank you so much for bringing them forth! ❤
Yes, indeed! And there is a special book that explained paganism, it is called Vain Traditions and back up with historical evidence. You may want to read it!
“When we allow our faith to dictate our history we betray both”
Wow.
I congratulate you for having this discussion in the search history.
Great analysis of such a deep topic in under an hour! It's amazing how the origins and fusion of the southern god Yahweh with the northern Canaanite god El also fits with what is hidden in plain sight in the Hebrew text.
This is so fascinating. Your teaser yesterday sent me off down the history of Yahweh rabbit hole. As an… em… rather agnostic person, I've for close to 30 years been interested in origins, and specifically how did all these Abrahamic based religions come to be?
I've always held the notion that there was some connection between the Bronze Age collapse and the birth of "Israel". It makes so much sense that divergent nomadic groups/tribes would have banded together afterwards, and in time a melding of cultures/gods would take place. We see much the same happen after the Romans left Britain, and the Germanic Angles/Saxons/ etal moved in. In Britain, the native Britons and Angles/Saxons etal eventually melding - many of my own families customs have their roots in both.
Needless to say, thank you muchly, I just found the titles of my next few e-books.
I think the Roman Briton analogy is nicely apt.
"For God so loved the world.."
"Who is my brother, sister but those who do as I say .."
Pretty plain all are Chosen and with our free will we are able to chose our Father of love, mercy and forgiveness.
The history of religion is a history of religious syncretism
And a history of cultural biases.
I will start a metal band called Anna't. Thanks for the inspiration😭
I have had too many miraculous experiences in the service of others for me to ever be an atheist. This actually makes me pretty comfortable with discussions like this. I believe man attempts to explain and connect with the divine as best he can but that we always fall short and fail to fully understand him. God meets us where we can reach him, and if that started for many of us with a warrior storm God in the near east, we should be totally fine with that.
That’s a refreshing attitude that I totally respect. If I’d had your experiences I’d probably have a similar outlook/belief.
The people I have difficulty understanding are those who just automatically believe or don’t believe in something (like God, for example 😄) because of their parents, community, and so on - they don’t actually think for themselves and arrive at a personal philosophy, they simply adopt the belief that is most popular around them or is expected of them and then they might even become militant about it.
There are sheep everywhere, wanting to follow and not “do the work”, because it’s easier. All religions have then, the secular world has them (people believing in politicians, scientists, self-help gurus, you name it - without thinking it through rationally on their own. The world is chock full of cults of personality and (unquestionable) belief, and often the ones who know the least shout the loudest.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and for putting up with my rambling, if you did. Have a great day! 🙂☀️✨
I’ve seen enough people describe non miraculous experiences as miraculous to believe them. See how that works?
@@tc3383 Exactly…or consider them coincidences and you would be getting somewhere.
@@tc3383 that neither proves nor disproves anything
We Hindus believe you are connecting with the same divine called brahman whatever way you approach from. The Gods that people worship are merely a medium to connect with that divine.