Why Carmen Jorda was so controversial
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- Carmen Jorda was a Lotus F1 development driver from 2015 to 2016 and is currently part of the FIA's Women in Motorsport Commission. So, why was her time shrouded in controversy? Well, you don't need to look too far to find out why...
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#F1 #Formula1 #CarmenJorda - Sport
You would think she would have experience in rallying given how much she was driving the GP3 car on the gravel.
she wasn't even good at it LMFAOO
dude I'm rolling 😂 why does this not have more likes?
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You sire, please have this Like... I m rolling here...
congrats sir, you just won the internets of the day! D
Carmen Jorda: "Women aren't able to compete against men in motorsport."
Me: "No; *YOU* aren't able to compete against men in motorsport."
or against other women in fact
But yeah women arent fast enough. Just a fact, im suprised if we’ll see a competitive female racer in the next 10 years.
@@MartiniPinball ...Did you even watch the video?
@@MartiniPinball you are messed up but ok
@@MartiniPinball Ummm ever heard of Jamie Chadwick?
"Rally isn't the same as Formula 1"
She knows because she tried running a formula car over gravel
GP3 cough coughs
hahhahahhahahahaahahhaa
@@Matt_10203 Now it's called formula 3 so it's the same
Sabine Schmitz (Rest in Peace), Michelle Mouton, Jutta Kleinschmidt.
Three women who, along with my mother (not a racing driver at all, but a brilliant driver in her own right), have been among my driving role models since I was a little boy.
I can only imagine what that would be like for a little girl who wants nothing more than to drive up there with the best. These are true role models!!
This comment makes me so happy
The only role model the humans will ever get is shoved so far up a smart phones arse, you will have to dig yourself out of social media to find a good one
"She couldn't develop film, let alone a race car..." Hahaha!! Brutal honesty!
Major ouchies for that burn comment.
To be fair, even as a man, I had to watch a youtube to learn how to insert film into a Hasselblad film back.
I did learn developing films from a school senior, so I didn't resorted to google.
@@mikefung9145 I had a Hasselblad years ago. I couldn't load mine , either. My girlfriend did it for me, lol. She never failed to remind me how " simple it is, even a little kid could do it"...🤨
Yes, cutting comment - if it was 1978.
Develop film? Meaning?
Carmen Jorda: "Women need their own series"
*W Series is created*
Carmen Jorda: "I'm not racing in that"
basically all of her comments can be translated as "I want to reach the pinnacle of motorsport with the least amount of effort possible"
To be fair, even if she took part she wouldn’t be racing
Oh she tried, but the series said "nah, we only want good drivers".
Implying she would even make the cut in the first place
She'd have failed the qualification test so she opted out of the embarrassment since she can afford to sit off the track and run her mouth
I actually feel bad for people who are good at racing and don't get the opportunities she did
Just imagine.
King Lord Mahaveer
Queen Carmen Jordá
The absolute racing monarchy
Pfff Senna and Prost could hide in hole. LMAO
Imagine if they would reproduce 🤯
Samir is the God in this universe
There'd be zero competition if these two came to F1. Eat my Ass Hamilton V Verstappen
Natalie Decker
Carmen Jorda: "I'm a woman therefore I'm not as fast as men"
No, you are just a terrible driver.
Women at a disadvantage... Not really by much though... Although males are much more common and have a much higher chance to be picked by a team in racing doesn't necessarily mean that a woman would be at a disadvantage when it comes to pace since well pace isn't really determined by gender and there are women out there who can outperform and outpace men by a long shot, sure they got a slight disadvantage when it comes to body composition like larger breasts which poses risks when it comes to crashes or interference with safety stuff, different body proportions i.e. waistline, less bulkier body and wider hips that adds a slight hindrance when it comes to racing and pace but not by much since a woman can make up for that in more ways than one, for example they have twomain advantages over men, they are overall lighter and much smaller which means they won't be hindered that much by those two factors, they are more likely to get picked by a team if the female driver performs well since she may be considered as a marketing trick, and the press might be interested aswell since female drivers are daughter after now cause they want to expand diversity in conclusion though, being a female racing driver and a male racing driver isn't really any different from each other
But if we were talking about Carmen jorda... She doesn't have any excuse tbh... She got abysmal pace, her body doesn't have the hindrances I mentioned such as big breasts, waistline differences compared to men of her size, when you look at physical stats she is usually the same weight as her teammates which would mean she's most likely overweight for her height (not in medical terms I meant in terms of team mates). so yeah she's basically just an actual terrible driver and has nothing to do with the fact that she's a woman
@@justsomemustachewithoutaguy- "pace isn't really determined by gender" yeah this tells me you never raced anything. You get sore muscles dude. It's a physical sport, and men will always dominate it.
@@justsomemustachewithoutaguy- Not by much...Yeah but the difference is motosport isn't much is it. We see a 5/10ths gap and go 'ooooh!' That 5/10ths gap is about 0.5%. So if you're 1% away - that's an age and should you even be in F1?!
@@SANTTIFRADA Exactly. Unfortunately in the time of woke feeling>facts.
Physically and mentally women don't have the advantages of men WRT a motorsport arena. That's life. There are other things that women excel at over men.
Once you understand this, you can stop being a white knight and just get on with things.
do you want a model for female drivers that every motor sport fan respects? the great Late Sabine Schmitz! not only she won the 24 hours in the nordscleife twice! she was a multiple rally winner with porsche and BMW...
Hell yeah, Schmitz was a GREAT example of a female driver!
Trueee! The queen of the Ring drove a van around the Nurburgring faster than Jorda could probably drive a Porsche GT3 RS around the Ring
@@kazukinakoshima nothing but facts homie
you know someone meant business when gets proclaimed as "The Queen of the Green Hell"
it's so sad she passed away 😔🙏🏻 respect
I was not aware she died that sucks RIP Sabine.
As my old Grandfather used to say, "Lucky you're pretty."
Your grandpa can say that without getting his Twitter account suspended...
That the only thing they had
Exactly! I love you Josh but you forgot to point out the one glaring difference she's hot and advertisers love hot
Your grandfather sounds sexist as hell
Lotus knew exactly why they signed her. A marketing pole.
I love how you especially pointed to examples of Jorda losing to other women in the same racing divisions she took part in, by both literal and metaphorical miles.
This woman is the definition of "Failing Upwards"
Don't forget about Lord Mahaveer
@@chrissss696 Lord Mahaveer deserves all his astounding success, dont you forget it
Also "I'm a woman and I look ok, so I'll try using that to bs my way into formula 1 and no one's gonna notice I'm worse than Yuji Ide"
I dont wanna know what else she did...
@@FqtRacing the FIA had to secretly ban him to save f1s integrity
In that Indy Lights season she did, she got black and white flagged for being dangerously slow at one of the races.
"slow button on now"
Milka Duno would be proud.
Oof, I hope that wasn’t on an oval.
@@BigCat553 ferraris gonna sign her 👀
She never did an oval, according to Racing-Reference
And who could forget Sabine Schmitz, may she rest in piece. She was crazy good :)
I felt the passion when he called Jorda a bimbo
I had to rewatch that a couple times to make sure I heard it right lol
I had a weeks apprenticeship at a sports mag when I was 16. I sat next to a journalist who did a phone interview with her when she was at lotus/Renault. He was just like “she’s never gonna get anywhere but people will read it cos she’s fit”
Man's not wrong huh
I mean, if you're going to be a talentless hack...being hot sure helps.
@@BassyBoy Grosjean or this babe on cover? We all would pick Grosjean. No homo. Maybe.
yep that's what everyone will be thinking, and imagine the money she's made already.
@@TurnStyleGames it doesn't just help. It carries her entire career.
7:48 Translation: Formula 1 babe made danish driver give up. Marco Sørensen stopped abruptly at Renault, when he felt the team favored the female driver Carmen Jorda at the expense of him
ew so they actually said 'babe'
Shameful...
Welcome to Ekstra Bladet, the most click baity danish "news source"
That does nobody any favours. It's disgusting they'd use such degrading sexist language, only adds further ammunition to her arsenal so she can say any criticism towards her (which is definitely deserved) is merely motivated out of sexism. It's not.
Wtf, an F1 babe? Might be better if Formula One Ace, that's sound so girly.
this is the classic "i cant compete so lets lower the bar" 😂
Military,fire,police and a few other professions would agree 🤣
Not even the ai on 2020 set to rookie is that bad
While other capable women don't need the bar lowered. In fact, they're looking to raise the bar. Seriously makes you wonder how exactly she obtained all of the rides she had.
Bernie must've had some fun times with her when he seriously thinks that she's good.
nah it's just bernie trying to go back to major racing scene
sheesh
He Popped a viagra and ate the kitty like a dirty old man.
Very good a sucking up!
I dont belive he was thinking about her racing skills when he said she was good
Alice Powell is a fantastic driver that I've had the pleasure to meet at Brands Hatch and race alongside on ACC/Discord.
_Duuude,_ lucky XD...
She follows me on twitter!
Lucky I haven't met any of them hopefully one day in Forza
@@TheA53ford You aren't going to meet any one like that in forza. 😂
I met her when she raced in the formula Renault series, great driver and great person :)
I can't imagine being a marketing gimmick and trying to talk smack about one of the greatest females to ever race competitively.
what else would you say?
"well, i know Im awful. but hey, at least I'm charming!"
While I have a hard time calling any professional driver "bad" knowing how unexpectedly difficult it is to drive something like an F1 car, but my lord, Jorda couldn't keep a train on it's tracks
😳😆😆😆😆😆
We don't need diversity, we need the best drivers. Doesn't matter their race gender or orientation, all we need are the best.
And they’re all men.
Anything that requires any kind of athletic ability besides flexibility… men are just going to be better at. It’s that simple.
@@MalleusIudaeorum finally, someone who isn't a complete spacker.
@@MalleusIudaeorum motorsports doesn't require athletic ability, its more just that more boys do motorsports at a young age
It’s that easy
@@vanagsss idiotic comment, motorsports do require athletic ability. There's a reason why Daniel Ricciardo has a thick neck, and that's cause F1 drivers experience more Gs than a fighter pilot in a weekly basis.
You should go karting.
may i suggest making a video on delada, a very competitive f2 driver with great skill who i believe will get an f1 seat in the future
Ties in great here, after his DNQ in Monaco.
Joke or not, Josh did a video on Deledda, but it got taken down because someone affiliated with Deledda threatened a defamation lawsuit.
@@Nitro55555 way to tank your reputation with fans.
@@Nitro55555 sounds like Deledda, the slowest slow driver since Roy Nissany
@@PanzerFalcon2232 Nissany isn’t great, but I’d argue he’s better than Rags, Samaia, Petecof, and Deledda. It takes something to get a podium at Monaco.
I was watching Josh's Michele Mouton video half an hour ago, then he drops this? Spooky.
I'm gonna tell you something spookier: I had some friends over and one of them said she was interviewed by the security information agency due to having been a part-time worker in a company with some dodgy Russian employees...and then Cinefix dropped "Top 10 Spy Movies".
Get a life guys
Josh has his own interpretation of how a woman should be and behave. Since Carmen didn't fit his concept, he attacks her. This is the real toxic man.
@@soyga_007 How did you come to this conclusion? What does this reply have to do with the OP's comment? Are you just a troll, or just caring about human rights way more than about sport?
You dont need extra racing series only for women
You only need two things: Women that understand that if they are not good enough to accept it
and second: Women that can actually drive badass instead of ones for marketing reasons.
to be honest, w series is also to open the doors and inspire young girls to take up karting as kids. not to seperate girls and men for f1. bc that's also a problem. if the talent pool is big enough you will have some at some point reach f1. but the talent pool for f1 isn't that big.
hence the purpose of w series. inspire young girls to take up karting specifically for reaching f1 one day.
@@liynne Yeah young girls will be so inspired by women that only got extra treatment and stuff for free. Thats a nice generation we are creating there 👍
@@Pandatoofu im talking about w series, not about carmen
@@liynne I am also talking about the w series. Which no one needs.
@@Pandatoofu Representation is important and I think Lynn is trying to say that if young girls have no famous women to look up to in racing then it's important to try and make those names for them. Racing is an equal opportunity sport yet that doesn't seem to be the case in F1, and that's just the simple fact that not as many women are in racing. If they see women in racing when they're young, they're more likely to take up the sport.
When Canada and USA started promoting their women's soccer teams just as much as their men's soccer teams they saw a massive boost in the rankings of their teams. The reason was because it got more girls in to soccer, and thus the countries had more potential talent to pull from. There's actually been a ton of studies done on their increased promotion on their women's teams and the benefits it had to the sport league as a whole.
The W Series doesn't really have any drawbacks and creates said representation for young girls. And if it creates another potential feeder league for F1? Then great. But it's also something that if you don't want it, you don't have to watch it and let those who are looking forward to it to enjoy it.
If someone that slow is ok to be in F1, I still have hope
She wasn't in f1, but don't lose hope😅
I bet you're probably not as pretty, however. Haha
@@ivanalvarenga9080 I'm willing to wear a dress and sit in Bernie's lap without complaining, does that count?
If you're 20 seconds off the pace in any racing series you're a danger to everyone on the track ... that just boggles the mind ...20 seconds. Only way that's acceptable is if your car breaks .... and they then tell you to get off the track.
I mean if your father have 1 billion dollar in the bank ,you have big chance.....Mazespin can do it why not you
The virgin Carmen Jorda VS the chad Michèle Mouton
MICHÈLE FTW
It's a shame the world of motorsport will probably never see a female driver like Michèle Mouton again.
@@crazyadam9281 why not ?
@@Sonokido she was the 🐐
@@Sonokido I mean it could happen, but what are the chances that this future world champion has the financial backing, less strict parents to do so and in a country with good women's rights. Just a thought
WRC is one of the most insane / metal racing styles on earth. You have the essentially ignore the normal fear of death just to finish the damn race. Hell, even the fans at events are death defying with how close they crowd the track.
“Im gonna drive around at 40 mph.... Gonna do a Carmen Jorda”
“40s a bit generous then?”
8:20
She climbed her way through the classes with no results whatsoever, grasping onto money-starved teams in multiple classes, and you're saying that she didn't make the W Series because of MONEY? The same W Series that had an extensive and elaborate recruitment process, that accepted applications from all over the world, and is a unified series that doesn't rely on independent teams securing their own sponsorship?
I'm suuuuuuure that wasn't an excuse at all. I'm sure that Jordá didn't pull out of the selection process because she didn't want to ruin her brand by creating evidence she's slower than dozens of other women in similar equipment... Right?
Right!, it seemed they tried to expose her. She kind of did it to herself. She faked it as long as possible. Always outclassed.
Pretty sure W Series drivers don't pay for their places, they get chosen
Who else thinks there should be a nude Women's driver's championship, just think of the ratings.
@@stephenhumphrey7935 just u, weirdo.
@@stephenhumphrey7935 pretty sure it's just you
It just shows that a pretty face can bring you far in anything i guess.
Sammy I think this girl must be so great at something that married men find irresistible.
She ain't that pretty though. Danica Patrick has more talent and is actually prettier but she did not get the opportunities that this one had.
Maybe she has very rich parents?
Lol danica is not prettier
That and rich parents
I think it took more than just a look at her face to get where she got
Danica Patrick in NASCAR really broke barriers…
The only problem is that they were the ones on the track…
On the track? Those are usually on the outside.
@@MCPunk55 actually they separate the outside of the track from the inside... so technically they are still on track, just at the very very edge of it. :P
Atleast in nascar ovals, not so on traditional circuits where there are run offs before barriers... unless its monaco.
@@Otakahunt The track is the tarmac portion. That's why you can't CUT THE TRACK, meaning driving outside the tarmac areas to get ahead.
Danica was the definition of Wasted talent
She couldve easily been a multi time indycar winner. Maybe even a champion
Instead she chased the Dollar signs by moving to nascar and running outside the top 15 in a car that her team mate Harvick won the title in
@@Dual_80 Everyone thinks Danica is a bad driver simply because of her NASCAR run forgetting that she was an above average open wheel racer & at 1 point legitimately being considered for the Honda F1 drive opposite to Jenson Button prior to them pulling out of F1
in the intro you forgot the mom from max verstappen she is a karting legend
Ironically, Adderly Fong distracted from the preposterous situation. I kinda respect it haha the only time doubling down kinda paid off 😂
"Adderly Fong distracted from the preposterous situation"
i dont get it
I'm sitting here waiting for you and Josh to link up and do another collaboration that Scott speed video was great
Oh hey, it's that American dude
Someone answer my question tf does adderly fong have to do with this??
@@dethkillerspiral I'll add to that by asking who tf is Adderly Fong.
you really forgot sabine schmitz when talking about good female drivers
I mean, there are a lot of them
This article tended to focus on open wheel formula drivers....... not a class that Sabine competed in.
If Carman Jorda tried to compete in Touring Cars (or feature on Top Gear) I’m sure Sabine would have been mentioned
@@regen9918 .. no there aren’t!
Good female, but nowhere in the overall category listings.
Also the Multi-Champion Shirley Muldowney
Mouton straight up roasting Jorda is so damn satisfying.
She was the perfect example of someone who couldn't generalizing her opinion of things. I would really love to see more women in f2 and f3. I know they have W series but those series tend to have more races and more exposure. Also Jorda for English speakers is pronounced like Hordaa.
When Eccelstone said "very good" he meant her looks....
Or was just being a simp or male feminist, lol
I reckon at some point she was under Bernies desk to achieve the “very good” comment from him!
Having just watched Simona de Silvestro live at the Indy500, there are SOOOOOOOOOOOO many better female ambassadors to the world of motorsport, Carmen was the wrong decision at every turn.
She's probably one of the few that screeched "sexism" and threatened to sue...
Nice pun, but it's not good enough, she caused a major accident at EVERY turn xD
The guitar riff for rally left me in stitches!😂😂
I remember the F1 coverage finding her in the garage at almost every race which pissed me off every time.
*20 seconds* slower at Spa? Holy fuck.
I think a stock 90s Civic would be faster in the right hands.
"Slower than a sloth in mud" is absolute brilliance. Though, I have no idea why you'd bring sloths into it. They deserve better.
Traditionally slow animal.
Yeah sloths do deserve better
i really appreciate how you DIDN'T push a Sexist narrative on this and just gave facts. i know Racing irl is most definitely harder than in a game but when a Girl has ZERO points multiple times and fails to qualify... that's setting a bad example for us. love how you gave credit to other Iconic Female Drivers too! definitely not the average Sexist narrative most people try and push for Women in Sports and Racing, you're just presenting facts. well done.
Well breaking news. She just got charges pressed against her for trying to get away from a cosmetic clinic without paying and running over someone in the process. TWICE.
I appreciate that you give a little nod of respect to Indycar every time the series comes up.
Its fresh usually f1 fans shit on anything that isnt f1 but glad he didnt
Indycar is an F1 field that’s equal and fair to all drivers. First 5 races had 5 different drivers that won
@@RosewoodActual yeah it's a spec series mate formula 1 is a open series so stop comparing the two
Indycar = drivers driving cars fast round a circuit. F1 = Drivers driving cars fast round a circuit. Both are equally dangerous.
@@thatonenigeriansformula not really, no. I don't know or have heard of any F1 fan who would shit on Indycar. Heck, even NASCAR has gained popularity in the F1 community due to how reasonable they're handling their scandals.
Classic case of: *"It's not what you know, it's WHO you know."* Or rather, who wants to know you.
She's hot. That's literally the only reason she even is a somebody.
That and having some really exceptional knees
Or perhaps a case of who you do rather than what you do.
I think you'll find it's, not what You know but who you blow.
Shirley Muldowney, NHRA DRAG Top Fuel champion 77, 80, 82. First woman to get NHRA licence. We need more like her today.
Excellent video 👍👍
From my Spanish insider sources I can tell you few things that you won’t hear anywhere else:
1) Jorda and ecclestone were more then just friends for a long time:), there are major rumors that eccelestone was paying for Jorda directly, and when Liberty Media bought out F1, Jorda couldn’t stay longer because Lotus was just returning favor to Eccelestone.
2)indeed she 12 seconds away in simulator. Fellow drivers who raced her in the past claim that it would be impossible that she is within one second of Romain.
3) Jorda was always bad and Spanish racing community sees her nothing more then just a girl with pretty face.
Fucking hell Ecclestone hit that? That explains a lot.
@@iMorands 😂😂😂
Motorsports might be the only sport that it does not matter what gender you are. It does matter how much money you have in your pockets though. And perhaps what you are willing to do to advance your career behind closed doors.
That is honestly what I fear (plus advertising eye candy) that may explain her carreer; because let's face it : she's as good looking as she is bad behind a wheel...
@@Cancoillotteman, I wish that logic could apply for me. I’m as good looking as a mossed rock, but, then, I’d be fucking fast.
If you look at most male F1 drivers they're in good shape but they're not exactly muscle bound (except in the neck department) so peak upper body strength clearly isn't that important compared to endurance. I think it's a great shame that so few women get into racing at a young age so they can progress up the ladder, I think that's where the focus should lie, getting girls in at the grass roots level rather than trying to shoehorn them in at higher categories purely to fill out gender quotas.
@@DjDolHaus86 Definitely. So many of us couldn't take a shot at racing because simply of (lack of) money, karting is bloody expensive. It is dumb to add other difficulties to this already huge one, and indeed it starts at childhood
@@SharikhKhan138 Well that may explain why I'vve always been rather fast following that logic XD
Coincidence that Josh announces the print winner at the conclusion of this video?
I see what you doing there Bravo good man, well played.
Just a side note that 2012 GP3 series had an amazing pool of talent, Mitch Evans, Da Costa,Abt and Daly
Josh, just joined and a big racing fan and you’re reviews are not only factual but also provide a great belly laugh as you walk us through - brilliant job mate and look forward to watching more!
Welcome to motorsport where if you have money you can drive some of the fastest cars without the ability to even use a fridge
XD
😂😂😂 good one
Mazepin joined the chat
@@mafproductions5005 Mazepin can actually drive tho
Between 1998 & 2001 I worked for a company (as an automation & robotics engineer) where the boss owned a Formula Holden Team. It was an Australian category using second hand F3000 cars but with a locally sourced 3.8l V6. Scott Dixon (of Indy Cars) won the Championship in 1998.
In my boss's team the drivers had to BRING at least $200k for a season with 8-10 Rounds. He eventually got a 2nd hand V8 Supercar for the B-category and that cost over $400K a year for the driver to bring. His F-Holden cars were available for a weekend at about $30K for one offs. A test day could be anywhere from $10-40K depending on how many laps and how many drivers were at the test and which track they were using - all those costs add up.
I was actually at the round (Oran Park) where Scott Dixon secured his championship. Helmut Marko (Le Mans winner & Red Bull advisor) flew that weekend to watch one of our drivers Marcus Friesacher (older brother of Patrick Friesacher who drove F1). We had Marcus for 1/2 the 1988 season when he was sponsored by Red Bull as a development driver (interesting times).
MOST MOTOR SPORT Including F1 the driver PAYS the team for the seat outright or their sponsors pay for the seat. Motor sport is a business way more than it is a sport and has been for decades. Only a handful of drivers at the very front (because they are that good) get paid by a team to drive their car. In those rare cases the team usually goes to their sponsors for the funding.
One of the super important things for all young drivers is to learn how to raise money from sponsors. A lot of talented drivers never learn that thinking talent alone will get them there and NO IT DOESN'T.
So if you have every wondered why some apparently poor drivers get ahead while talented ones fade away - it really is a matter of money.
Mrs. Mouton was the most leagendary female driver of all time.
She was probably the greatest driver never to win a World Rally Championship (except maybe Toivonen). Everyone says "Latvala" or maybe "Hirvonen" but as good as they were, they weren't as competitive as Mouton or Latvala against teammates (Hirvonen only ever beat Latvala and rookie Elfyn Evans while Latvala only ever beat Hirvonen and a rookie Esepekka Lappi, while Mouton beat *all* of her Audi teammates and arguably should have won the championship if not for technical issues).
Shirley Muldowney, NHRA Top Fuel champion in 1977, 1980, and 1982, becoming the first person to win two and three Top Fuel titles.
+1
Don't forget Maria Theresa De Fillipas who manhandled a Maserati 250f along with Bonnier .She never won but competed in numerous f1 events
...so far.
Somewhere, there's some eleven year old chick beasting it out in Gran Turismo right now who's just waiting for them to put her in a GT car when she's old enough, I bet. Nowadays your parents don't have to be that rich anymore for you to have an angle at racing, that raises probabilities.
I m not an f1 fan but damn your videos are great!!!!
This is so crazy! 20 seconds.... WOW
Lotus made the choice because it brought in cash. It apparently caused some drama with a danish simulator driver also with Lotus and I remember the Lotus team boss made it clear he really didn't care about either of them.
Marco Sorensen was the Dane, he competed at Le Mans driving the Aston Martin GTs
Simona DeSilvestro i consider underrated, at the very least she was a step in the right direction for women in F1.
I've always wondered what Simona DeSilvestro could do in an actually competitive car, since she has driven cars to places where they had absolutely no business being in, like when she was driving woefully underpowered Lotus engines in IndyCar and didn't finish last. I'm excited to see what she can do this weekend at the Indy 500, since her car is the Juncos chassis that bumped Fernando Alonso from the race and it's also being prepared by Team Penske
Yeah, I don't really like hearing her and danica in the same breath. As the above comment says, Simona has driven poor cars to excellent results, whereas Danica has often gotten below average results for the very best teams. Unfortunately this is probably once again down to Danica simply being more marketable. Hopefully it isn't too late for Simona to get the top ride she deserves...
She's a very average V8 supercars driver
Didnt drive too good in supercars.
Supercars are hard to drive. Rossi and Hinchcliffe had their struggles.
Josh, given your recent foray into the ladies, I'd be interested in your take on Louise Cook, WRC almost-be...
There should be series saying "What not to do" so kids can learn from this Josh 😂😂
Jorda is very good...very good looking. Amazing how funding gets you in to sports over talent. Imagine how many great drivers are never seen, for lack of funding ? Motor racing is a rich person's sport. Sad, but true.
Not necessarily a rich persons sport but there's definitely barriers to entry on the fast track...families in racing are quite prominent and also a lot of racers have successful parents who helped start them going. If your family isn't already full of racers, you'll probably start late and always be behind unless you are just an out of this world talent, which does exist for sure.
She's not bad looking but nothing out of ordinary. Spend a few hours in Kiev and you'll see women like her almost everywhere...
@@veduci22 My Grandmother is from the Ukraine...I do agree.
@@themessenger5868 bro you fancy your own nan?
@@cellodoesmusic Bro...you got me all wrong, I fancy Nancy's just like you.
Fantastic! I've been waiting for this since Michele Mouton video; glad to see this 😊
Never heard of her, but it seems to me that someone should check & approve any words or sentences that come out of her mouth.. before she actually says them.. MM was incredible behind the wheel of that S1 😮👊🏼
Shirley Muldowney 3 time NHRA top fuel NATIONAL champion with over 18 event wins.
Honestly Josh you should make a video about Eliška Junková because she is prime example of how good a woman can be when she uses her brain more than her muscles. Not only that she raced against men, she gained their respect while racing. Men like Divo, Chiron and even Ettore Bugatti himself. She almost won Targa Florio 1928 race. 7 hours long race. In a car without powersteering, with wooden board on the floor so she could reach the accelerator (she accelerated with her toe not the whole feet) and pillows behind and under her so she could reach the steering wheel. She finished 15 minutes behind winner Divo in the fifth place. The only other woman on grid baroness von Einsiedel finished full 1 hour behind Divo. It's really shame that she is forgotten. So please Josh make video about her and remind the world about the Queen of the wheel.
I'm looking forward to a time when nobody absolutely cares about your race, gender, political views, and religion, just how good you are at your job.
I think we're backtracking on the meritocracy road in our society. We may never live to see it.
That's what we all want but being pants at driving and still making it towards the peak is the worst. Ps I dislike drivers in F1 who only get there because $
As long as identity politics reign, that world would never be realised.
I'm afraid those days are long gone and are unlikely to come back in my lifetime....
You know, it's sort of funny,but I never looked at Lewis Hamilton, or Willy T. Ribbs, as being "black" racing drivers...until Hamilton became "woke". I don't really care what color or race a driver belongs to. Can he drive? That's all that matters.
Outro song is pretty fire
You watch ONE F1 video and suddenly I get all of these videos about racing.
She’s in racing for the same reason I watched this video; nice to look at.
Matthew Carter (the team's CEO at the time) confirmed the Sorenson story. He didn't clarify it was 12 seconds, but did say Jorda was multiple seconds off Sorenson's simulator pace.
It's been said at least twice, on Missed Apex podcast episodes. Carter also confirmed that she was signed purely as a marketing exercise.
Interestingly, I didn't realise she'd had her teeth capped at the same time as the Indy lights move.
Just because you chose to start your video with the Lancia Delta S4, I'm going to give you a thumb up.
I feel like you mansplained this, informative and well explained, thankyou
Carmen Jorda: what happens when shit driving and pace combines with internalized misogyny to make someone completely insufferable.
What does misogyny have to do with this she had lots of support that talented racing drivers didn't get even when she was performing badly
@@IbrahemAlbanawi I’m not saying it’s misogyny against her, she is misogynistic in her own way. A lot of the video comes off to me as taking her shit performances and applying it to all women and saying that women are worse than men at Motorsport. Which there is ample evidence to prove that isn’t the case.
Her main problem wasn't only her performance, but her choice of words.
Whoever was behind her, most certainly was paying a lot of cash to keep her career going.
@@IbrahemAlbanawi He's referring to her comments that women couldn't compete and needed their own series. There's an internalized misogyny in thinking that. It's similar to labor "feminists" in the United States that helped defeat the Equal Rights Amendment. It was an insult to real feminism and something that irritates me to this day.
Imagine working your entire life for the most coveted opportunity to drive an f1 car and then a woman gets to drive one just because she’s a woman, it’s almost criminal
Tell that to the males that took her money and hired her
@@bmanmann7873 At least that was a business decision.
So what. F1 has a low talent pool. Most males who get to f1 do so because their daddy knows a few people and has a few quid
Whats the music in the background at the beginning of the video?
The rally full of ppl on the road u see is in Portugal , crazyest rally and crazyest crowd ever.
Man I wish I could wish I spend years failing at driving professionally
3:45
My boy Kvyat on his way to F1 baby! 🍾
Slav approved ~
why do all creators say that they're gonna link everything on the description when they don't do it?
Davina Galicia entered F1 for Surtees racing team in 1977. Entered 3 races. Previously Olympic downhill skier
what proper PR team would go for her knowing her track record, you have to be drain dead in terms of PR to hire her
Honestly sometimes I think the hierarchy of motorsport is so detached from reality
But looks good. That’s what PR firms work with.
Not really. Danica Patrick got a lot of attention and sponsors despite being a terrible driver.
@@met0xy Danica a terrible driver? Maybe not creme de la creme, but terrible? What are you smoking dude?
@@nanatzaya Well, in IndyCar 116 races, one win. NASCAR 191 races 0 wins, 7 top 10s.
I'm smoking meth.
I remember that crazy lady. When she said those crazy things about how there needs to be a segregated series because women aren’t good enough. I was like wtf?!? And the women I followed at the time in sports car racing were going off on her on Twitter 😂
Loved this video so much! I always thought of her as being as a "Marketing tool" to advertise motorsport campaigns. But I had no idea her actual motorsport performance was THAT bad!
I have seen her "testing" for something with a Formula car. But I guess "testing" is another word for "modelling" for her. Harsh but true (:
I think it's important to develop men in motorsports and show boys that men can succeed in anything.
I'm mediocre sim racer, but I imagine that on the F1 simulator I would not be 12 seconds off the pace.
Even my worst it´s just 8-10 seconds. Where´s my fucking test driver contract. I´m pretty sure if I went to real racing series I would be able to finish last too.
I was lucky enough to be invited to drive the Mercedes F1 simulator a year or so ago. I'm in no way, shape or form qualified to even start as a motor racing driver, but my meagre experience of racing games got me to just under 10 seconds off Valtteri Bottas' 2020 Silverstone Anniversary Grand Prix pole time.
"Women aren't able to compete against men in motorsport."
Me: Don't try to make me laugh
one name: Sabine Schmitz
@@DiegsurfPlays7 Yo I think you got the math wrong
@@sdaewdaws nah it's German, I'm sure SabineScmitz is a valid word
@@sdaewdaws thats what happens when i comment before i turn on my brain
@@DiegsurfPlays7 She was great.
Koiranen GP said that While driven on their team on GP3 she was too scared to drive on Spa at wet condition so she said that her brakes didn’t work :)
Hey man, not sure if you'll see this or not, but de Tomaso announced something about Carmen Jorda on their website, and sounds like she might be a part of their new racing team? You might want to check it out.
Oh dear don’t sue him
Carmen Jorda. Tatiana Calderon.
Hot girls in cars.
Michele Mouton, Janet Guthrie, Sarah Fisher, Pippa Mann, Danica Patrick: Drivers, who happened to he women.
Edit: Forgive my mortal sin, I didn't add Sabine Schmitz. Race in Peace, dear lady!
danica was a driver that happened to be a hot girl
...Lella Lombardi, Desiree Wilson and going back in time there were others...
Drivers, who happen to be women, that won championships: Shirley Muldowney.
No video about her though.
Back in the day Michelle Mouton was fine though
Calderon isn't just some bimbo though, she has good results.
Brah! I love your videos
So 2015 saw Pastor Maldonado, Romain Grosjean and Carmen Jorda all under one roof! Wow! Just... wow! Lotus sure knew how to pick them...
she almost makes mazepin look good
No, she DOES make Mazepin look good. :)
Considering Mazepin finished 2nd in GP3, that must mean a lot of drivers are terrible.
Mazepin finished 5th in F2, so I'd have to say he's leagues ahead of her
Mick Schumacher made Mazepin look good during Monaco.
@@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance those were team orders but sure okay
These videos on female drivers, both the good ones and the bad ones, have been great! I'd love to see some videos on some others like Sarah Moore or Charlie Martin
Mouton was also a class winner at Le Mans.
Update on Carmen Jorda: She is now facing the possibility of going to jail after alledgedly running over the employee of an esthetic clinic twice (she ran her over and then came back on reverse) because she wasn't satisfied with their services.
Oh so she's a psychopathic karen as well? Good to know.