Conlanging Case Study: Part 32 - Modal Affixes and Deciding on a Name

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  • @Tm00ne
    @Tm00ne Před rokem +74

    For Lexember: what about using CZcams community tab? I don't check Twitter very often, but I would definitely like to see your new words in my CZcams feed!

    • @gal749
      @gal749 Před rokem +2

      He said he won't use CZcams as most of his audience aren't conlangers by now, so he wouldn't want to bother the non-conlangers with a community post every day.

  • @theorixlux2605
    @theorixlux2605 Před rokem +52

    For the community post: I say try it anyways. Maybe after a few days, list the new words and their fancy mechanics ya came up with recently.
    Why? Community posts don't kill channels. Yes, they can be annoying if spammed. But community posts have , in my experience, allowed me to see other side of people's channels /second channels/non youtube media. You might tick off one or two biosphere hardliners. But you are just as easily going to introduce in a novice friendly manner your conlang and it's series to hundreds of happy CZcams eyeballs
    If you don't see marked uptick in views of old videos after two or three posts, you can say I'm wrong. But I will be not insignificantly surprised if that is the case.

  • @wolfgangalphamale1268
    @wolfgangalphamale1268 Před rokem +37

    I don't know in Italian, but in Spanish is just how you described it.
    So DEBER in the conditional is DEBERÍA (forgetting about the person thingis for a sec) which literary translates as I SHOULD something. It also gives a sense of it the actor actually not wanting the action to happen.
    Fun fact, this DEBERÍA is one of the few words that prohibit the use of the Spanish "if": SI. This does make it work like a modal verb in Spanish.
    Also we have QUERRÍA (conditional of QUERER, want in English). Functions in the same way, also prohibits "si" and it means "I would like/want to", but with the sense that tit won't happen, contradicting the actor's desires.
    If you would like to use a different conditional with these verbs, you have to use the Imperfect Subjunctive (DEBIERA, QUISIERA) and then you use SI. Ex: si quisiera, etc (If I liked it, etc.). This construction gives the sense that the speaker is judging the actor in a negative way (he says he wants something, but in reality he doesn't or acts as such).
    Finally, you can use the present with SI to have a neutral conditional. Ex: si quiero, etc. (If I want this, etc.)
    Hope this helps. Native Spanish speaker and fellow conlanger here

    • @talideon
      @talideon Před rokem +2

      French is more or less the same too. It seems to be common across the Romance languages.

    • @dragskcinnay3184
      @dragskcinnay3184 Před rokem +1

      @@talideon The main difference in French is that you use the indicative imperfect, instead of the subjunctive imperfect, in conditions, but otherwise it does work pretty much the same

  • @enelabe
    @enelabe Před rokem +8

    Can't wait for you to come back with the huge video!

  • @kala_asi
    @kala_asi Před rokem +14

    A young conlang stands in his bedroom. It just so happens that today, the 29th of November, 2022, is not quite this conlang's birthday (but its close enough). Though it was three years ago it was given life, it is only today it will be given a name!
    What will the name of this conlang be?
    > Enter name.

  • @teucer915
    @teucer915 Před rokem +5

    When this is all done, I really want a *synchronic* description of the language in its late form. I can't really keep track of all these principal parts and changes, but I love what they seem to be adding up to.

  • @filippo6157
    @filippo6157 Před rokem +7

    In italian the (sort of) debitative can be espressed with "deve", "must" (deve andare = he must go). If you put deve in the conditional, you get something like "would have to" and that is used for something that would be good/expected (dovrebbe andare = he should go/he'd better go/he is supposed to go).
    Also the (sort of) possibilitative is done with "può", "can/be able to/may" (può succedere = it can happen/it may happen) and putting that in the conditional just implies it's less likely.
    Also, I'd say absolutely yes to lexical community posts. You can drop the declension of the new noun (the forms for a verb) like every three/four days if you don't want to risk being excessive but I don't think people are gonna be that annoyed by it

  • @ArturoStojanoff
    @ArturoStojanoff Před rokem +23

    What should WE, your viewers, call it? Taqvamiir or Tënqomiir? Are we insiders or outsiders?

    • @briansebor
      @briansebor Před rokem +19

      None of us speak this language, so we are definitely outsiders

  • @evanswart480
    @evanswart480 Před rokem +3

    I think that if you’re trying to use a similar construction for the reflexive as for the reciprocal, you could use a converb of “to eat” e.g. “I wash myself” would be “I wash-DET eat-CONV”. I think it fits w/ the reciprocal construction

  • @UnshavenStatue
    @UnshavenStatue Před rokem +4

    Being only 4 minutes in, "all consonants can be geminated except 1" sounds exactly like the sort of oddball, nonsensical quirk which natlangs are rife with. I say go for it. (Or only geminating /m/, not /b/, is cool too.)

    • @melvinshaw7574
      @melvinshaw7574 Před rokem

      It's odd, but there is certainly precedent for it in the language's history, which is honestly the perk of using the diachronic method: you can justify easily odd design choices as something that evolved over the course of the language's development. I suspect at least one language somewhere has a similar phonological, though none come immediately to mind

    • @yeo4725
      @yeo4725 Před rokem +2

      @@melvinshaw7574 Serbo-Croatian adds /v/ (approximant, but I haven't IPA keyboard) in many clusters other consonants cannot get into, and most Slavic langs do the same with their /v/s

  • @itisALWAYSR.A.
    @itisALWAYSR.A. Před rokem +14

    8:30 is irregular auxiliary so bad? Seeing the big tables of green forms sparked a lot of joy!

  • @SachaCubesLatino
    @SachaCubesLatino Před rokem +17

    17:25 Romance languages do use a form of "to have to do/owe" in the condicional to say "should". I mean, even English kind of does it since "should" is just the past/subjunctive-like form of "shall" meaning "to owe".
    Spanish "deber" gives you "debería ver más videos de Biblaridion", for example.

  • @tannerpeterson6167
    @tannerpeterson6167 Před rokem +6

    Baby come back 😩

  • @NoxaClimaxX
    @NoxaClimaxX Před rokem +13

    Anyone else notice that Biblaridion likes to use a “Vl” pattern for agentives?

  • @ArturoStojanoff
    @ArturoStojanoff Před rokem +5

    Just fyi, in Spanish "saber" means to know and to be able to but not to be familiar with, whereas "conocer" means to know and to be familiar with but not to be able to.

  • @user-lb9uy7yy2b
    @user-lb9uy7yy2b Před rokem +72

    Bogos Binted

  • @iddqdfomin1593
    @iddqdfomin1593 Před rokem +2

    this totally made my day. thx bib!

  • @doorhanger9317
    @doorhanger9317 Před 11 měsíci

    It's fascinating that just by changing that final verb to hoyqoon or hoyqoos, you can change the meaning to "i gather that the man will hopefully possibly need to -" and "i gather that the man hopefully possibly will have needed to-"

  • @talideon
    @talideon Před rokem +1

    Something that might work for the optative would be a verb meaning "to expect".

  • @krzychukar676
    @krzychukar676 Před rokem +10

    31:45 you could also use your Discord server (along with Twitter) :>

    • @sulien6835
      @sulien6835 Před rokem +1

      How the heck did you comment this four days ago if the video only came out 44 seconds ago?

    • @krzychukar676
      @krzychukar676 Před rokem +10

      ​@@sulien6835 The Dark Side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

  • @Flavio06626
    @Flavio06626 Před rokem +3

    About the lexember words, you could post a youtube short every day to showcase them, if this doesn't take too much time and work from you.

  • @Caffeinepirate-oc2hc
    @Caffeinepirate-oc2hc Před rokem +1

    Love this video. Love Tënqo-miir. Looking forward to 2023. Gj m8.

  • @wilhelmseleorningcniht9410

    I'd be perfectly happy with a daily community post, honestly. I'd prefer that over anything else, as I'm not in the habit of following creators on platforms other than the one I interact with their stuff, and community posts can also just be safely ignored if somebody doesn't want to engage. That's fine.
    People have all sorts of subscriptions, channels they follow and whatnot, community posts even daily are just going to be a drop in the bucket, no worry I think.

  • @DLWebb6245
    @DLWebb6245 Před rokem +1

    That was great. Loved to see a new video before Lexember, and you could use the Discord or maybe the youtube community tab? Just spouting ideas. But great to see a new video!!!!
    P.S. would miir affect the old word mi. I saw it on the chart under qu'a and wondered if that would cause confusion in similarity, but I might be wrong.😅😊

  • @GoofballGorgon
    @GoofballGorgon Před rokem +2

    By the way, you could've kept "ox" for the older sentences, if the culture lives near musk oxen. Granted, you'd have needed a word for musk.

  • @junespoesy
    @junespoesy Před rokem +2

    Do you think gaming studios need conlangers for their fantasy games?

  • @PelleReimers
    @PelleReimers Před rokem +1

    5:10 Lord of the Auxiliary: Fellowship of the Verb

  • @hahafunnyname
    @hahafunnyname Před rokem

    Can't wait for the new alien biospheres episode!

  • @ethanpatel3622
    @ethanpatel3622 Před rokem +3

    It’s been 8 excruciating months since we last saw spec evo

  • @bustavonnutz
    @bustavonnutz Před rokem

    You naming it "Miir" makes me think of the "Mer" from Elder Scrolls; crazy language, it kinda reminds me of Mongolian in a weird way.

  • @wallacehoye8175
    @wallacehoye8175 Před rokem

    I can’t wait for pt 14

  • @Yachid
    @Yachid Před rokem +3

    (?) iz all well/good;
    (?) iz thiz series still active

  • @ArturoStojanoff
    @ArturoStojanoff Před rokem +7

    Are you gonna add some allophonic rules to the vowels around the "q"? Because "höyqön" is really hard to say.

  • @MrPuncher
    @MrPuncher Před rokem +2

    Less go

  • @rocketterrier
    @rocketterrier Před rokem +3

    49 SECONDS AGO?? I FEEL SO LUCKY

  • @Kaeloo398
    @Kaeloo398 Před rokem +2

    Nice video 💪😍💪

  • @goobertsnoobert9015
    @goobertsnoobert9015 Před 9 měsíci

    16:57 French does something very similar with “devrais” conjugated from devoir

  • @ATOM-vv3xu
    @ATOM-vv3xu Před rokem +1

    it's been some time, when next vid?

  • @tiradeepinthewild
    @tiradeepinthewild Před rokem +5

    Ooo i never enjoyed these too much but their always educational and they are quite interesting to see

  • @AndrzejGieraltCreative

    Twitter sounds like a great place to post new words.

  • @DedYefremiy
    @DedYefremiy Před rokem

    I actually think that those people would try to make the outsiders refer to the language as "Aarqa-miir" - "their language", instead of "our language" or "our and your language"

  • @chefzombie1237
    @chefzombie1237 Před rokem

    If intelligent life ever became a thing it in the alien biospheres series it would be awesome if you used this language for it.

  • @ndricimballiu3612
    @ndricimballiu3612 Před rokem

    Any idea or sufgestion on: How can I do the romanisation of VELARISED Consonats(s, d, t, l)???
    Also how can I type on my phone the "o" with a macron over?

    • @NoxaClimaxX
      @NoxaClimaxX Před rokem

      If you’re on iPhone, hold down the “o” key and you’ll see diacritic options.
      As for velarization: maybe do what Irish does and use a back vowel? Or maybe use the letter “g” as part of a digraph in a similar vein to “ng”.

    • @BeneathTheBrightSky
      @BeneathTheBrightSky Před rokem

      I would follow it up with x, so sx, dx, tx, lx. In English x makes the /ks/ sound and in the IPA its /x/, both are velar. Also I think it looks cool :)

  • @user-db9jd7pu3c
    @user-db9jd7pu3c Před rokem

    Life in deep ocean

  • @NikodAnimations
    @NikodAnimations Před rokem

    What software do you use?

  • @evanwatling3897
    @evanwatling3897 Před rokem

    New refugium video please 😭 I need answers

  • @powdertoyguy
    @powdertoyguy Před rokem

    where new vid

  • @powdertoyguy
    @powdertoyguy Před rokem

    Funny stuff

  • @cormachaha8365
    @cormachaha8365 Před rokem +2

    Where's ALIEN BIOSPHERE part 14

  • @Kaeloo398
    @Kaeloo398 Před rokem +4

    Give me your laptop and wifi

  • @dionis5598
    @dionis5598 Před rokem

    pքɾօʍօʂʍ

  • @leonardobraga9185
    @leonardobraga9185 Před rokem

    Aliens biosferes

  • @Ptaku93
    @Ptaku93 Před rokem +2

    "happy festive period" is such a cringe underwhelming sentence

  • @purplemosasaurus5987
    @purplemosasaurus5987 Před rokem +2

    Random Fact: "Asian" in IPA is [eɪ ʒən]

  • @Yachid
    @Yachid Před rokem +2

    (?) iz all well/good;
    (?) iz thiz series still active