I Read Colin/Penelope’s📙& now I get the mirror🪞 emojis (Romancing Mister Bridgerton Season 3 Review)
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- Colin Bridgerton (Luke Newton) and Penelope Featherington (Nicola Coughlan) star in Netflix's Bridgerton season 3, following in the footsteps of Anthony Bridgerton (Jonathan Bailey) and Kate Sharma (Simone Ashley), and Simon Basset (Regé-Jean Page) and Daphne Bridgerton (Phoebe Dynevor).
In this video, I discuss “Romancing Mister Bridgerton” - the book source material for Bridgerton season 3.
This is the fifth of multiple videos I will be making about Bridgerton season 3!
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I loved the part when Portia was so oblivious to Colin proposing. And i do miss the Lady Danbury and Felicity and Pen friendships
Collin's absolute hysterics trying to get her to understand!!! Oh i loved that scene!
I think they used Fransesca for that, albeit a short scene, I don't mind that she has someone around her age to relate to and not just an elderly woman.
They also robbed us from Penelope dancing in the rain accepting her spinster life and Colin interrupting to dance with her! Oh the wasted potential 😭 hopefully pt 2 will make all these changes make sense!
I swear in season 1, when Colin announced his engagement to Marina, Anthony looked first at Penelope to make sure she was alright. I thought he would be that older brother/father figure she needs this season. I definitely thought there would be an uptick in Penelope and Bridgerton's interactions, too bad they didn't bring Lady Danbury and Penelope's friendship to the show. great video
You know what surprises me.
How Anthony maybe looking at Penelope in season 1 and in book 4 walking her home created a bunch of Pen and Anthony fan fiction.
And surprisingly, it is really good .
@@gabrielleduplessis7388 fascinating!!!
@user-of5xw3wx7o she had a cute interaction with Francesca, i think that had to replace the connection with Lady Danbury. Which I like bc she is a fellow wallflower more her age. But the interaction was to short and few, wished to have more interaction between Pen and the Bridgertons before the proposal. But the writers kinda ruined that by having Eloïse find out abt Wistledown already and giving them a falling out instead of E supporting her as a strong independend female writer.😅
Maybe it’ll happen in the second half? That’s at least what I’m hoping because Penelope’s importance to the family is a big role in the book
20:24 another scene that I find really interesting is the scene in season 1 (that they took from book 2) in which Cressida is bullying Penelope in a ball. In the tv show, Colin says he is going to dance with Penelope to save her from Cressida, but in the book, it is ANTHONY that saves her. We see this scene in the book through Kate's eyes and that is an important event for Kate to see Anthony in a better light, because she likes Pen. But it was also one of my favorite scenes in book 2 because it showed how Pen is important to EVERY Bridgerton, not only Colin or Eloise.
Wish they would´ve kept that moment, especially to indicate that the other Bridgerton siblings like Pen too, even before it´s Pens season
I won't spoil anything, but Hyacinth's book is my favorite. Hyacinth is keeper of the Bridgerton family brain cell.
Hers is my third favorite. It is funny and the premise is unique when it comes to Bridgerton.
Hyacinths book was my favorite until the ML committed calculated and pre-meditated sexual assault to make sure she couldn't break their engagement and the book acted like this was fine.
@@UchihaKat yeah that wasn’t good. Ugh!
And when he was wicked was my second version, but did not appreciate Michael trying to “seduce” her to get what he wanted. But their relationship was pretty healthy.
As for intimate scenes in book 4, I did not see any iffy things.
It was mostly outside of that and how he reacted to stuff in the moment.
Good lord, I wonder who's more rude to Penelope for no reason- her own mother or the Ton when they interrupt her conversation with Colin and keep ignoring her.
That's why I'm fine with her talking trash and having them pay for it.
[COUGHS LOUDLY] CRESSIDA IN SEASON 1, WHICH PROMPTED COLIN TO ASK HER TO DANCE
@@LadyJenevia 👏👏👏👏 Thank you! I will follow that up with Anthony taking her into dinner book 2.
I was hoping to see another Colin the hero moment and take Anthony’s place in a comparable scene in season 3 since they cut it out of season 2.
It would have been fun to see Lady Danbury befriended Penelope and be the one giving her lessons and than be the one to introduce her to Lord Debling. Colin could have watched from a far and witnessed her change.Slowly he could start to view her as a woman. Eventually because most of her time is occupied with Lady Danbury he realizes he misses her.Wanting to get close to her he could come up with the excuse he is trying to help her rekindle her friendship with Eloise. When things eventually get serious with Lord Debling they could have had a scene like in the book where he is stalking her and than follows her to reveal the truth.
All would have been revealed and he could confess his feelings to her in the carriage.
I do like alot of the aspects of the show so I dont mind the changes.
Woah - perfect.
Yes! I feel robbed.
write a fic please i would read
I agree, Lady Danbury and Penelope should have had their friendship in the show. There was a scene in the first ep of season 3 with Lady D and the Queen mentioning Pen, why not set up having a "spinster" get the favor a the queen for a change. Instead of the same thing that has happened in previous seasons with the diamond.
Lady D has always been involved with helping the main couple and their romance, this season, she hasnt even talked to the main couple.
Another point in the book the show misses is that Penelope, Eloise and Francesca are a threesome BFF. Eloise and Francesca are about a year apart and the closest.
And the Sterlings are Scottish.. with full accents and very proud Scots. Her book mainly takes place there and it’s part of the storyline. I hope they won’t eff it up (they will, of course).
Penelope's book is really good. I love her relationship with Lady Danbury. Hyacinth is comical as she grows older.
Less time with the Bridgertons being absolute chaos siblings, not having Felicity and less of Danburry are the show's biggest losses imo, and I think it absolutely is a symptom of(what you and I assume, probably correctly) higher ups asking for more drama bc including those would always just be more character time
Btw your point about the "I will not marry Penelope" scene IS SO GOOD I agree 100% while I do in general like how they have been doing Polin(they could have so much more obvi, the season is bloated) but that specific change was VILE. However, Luke Newton channeled such powerful down-badism I have to thank the man
You know what bugs me about this. Station 19.
That show is one of Rhime’s best because it focuses on the characters. There will always be drama, but each episode and season brings out character development.
This shows the writers are capable of character driven stories so I hate that the drama takes the forefront when others shows Shonda created did what we wanted with Bridgerton.
We have to applaud the actors for their talent.
They made some bad writing/executive meddling not so terrible. 👏👏👏
Surprisingly, as someone whom’s favorite book is this one, I loved the show.
I feel they kept the spirit of the book and added subtle things when it came to the book.
And I do agree they should have taken out some side plots and added more of the book in there.
The two storylines I longed for was the lady danbury/penelope friendship and Colin’s journals.
There were at least 4 scenes that I would have either cut down or replaced to add more development.
That being said, I love this season.
Book Polin fan - this was by far my favorite book of the entire series. I have to say I am severely disappointed in how it has been adapted. Where do I even start?
1. Show Penelope comes off as very bitter. In the books, as Lady Whistledown she is smart, witty, acerbic but never unnecessarily cruel. In the show, she goes home in anger and writes mean stuff with an aha! take that energy which just makes her unlikeable.
2. They completely effed up her and Eloise's friendship. That was one of the highlights of the book for me. And from the looks of the Part 2 teaser they are going to further decimate that friendship.
3. Why are we being subjected to a Cressida Cowper redemption arc? Who asked for that? I do not care about her. I am not saying people can't change or can't be shades of grey but Cressida was a horrible bully and she continues to be mean to Penelope in this season while having Eloise as a friend. We are supposed to be okay with this since Cressida made a statement about how the ton pits women against each other. Lol.
4. The relationship between Colin and Penelope is a slow burn friends-to-lover. Why could they not adapt any scenes showing the actual banter between them? In the book they have several conversations where they make each laugh and enjoy each other's company. In the books Colin doesn't kiss her once and *bam* falls in love with her. He starts seeing her in a different light, sure. But he realises that he always enjoyed her company.
5. I hate the fact that Colin does not know she is Lady Whistledown before proposing to her. The whole carriage ride scene when they fight and Penelope comes to realize that Colin is not perfect, that he is in fact insecure and can be petty and yet she loves him is beautiful. I feel like they have taken all the depth out of their characters.
On a side note, the actors playing the characters look perfect! That's the one thing they did get right.
TL;DR - Still gonna watch the show, but book Polin is way better.
The Smythe-Smiths were mentioned in Queen Charlotte as a newly entitled Black family 🫶
I'm waiting for us all to be made to sit through 1 musicale by season 8.
@@heathercontois4501 I’m hoping to see them in the back half of this season. I think Pen and Colin are mentioned in the first Smythe-Smith book.
I’m still undecided whether or not I like that (it seems as if) they’re omitting Colin’s “I want to be a writer” arc. I remember hating how immature and insecure he was in the books specially his anger towards Pen about her being a better and more successful writer than he ever could be. I guess in the show they’re replacing that with “I hate Lady Whistledown” plot??? 🥴
As a Hyacinth stan, welcome to the club! She is a menace to everyone and I have a feeling you’re gonna love her 😂
Yeah, I was thinking I don’t know which one is worse 😅
@@LavenderrLatte Right?!? But I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it's played out when we get the next half of the season lmao 😆
Yeah, Nigel being an in law was disturbing to me, too.
The JUMP SCARE of seeing his name pop back up again lmaoooooooooo-
Most Scottish nobles not only went to school with English nobles, the Scottish nobles "sold out" their country's independence for noble titles in Great Britain when Queen Anne (yes the same Queen from "The Favourite") put her influence on the Scottish nobles and said: sign and merge the kingdoms so that my legacy is an United Britain instead of England and Scotland drifting apart and going back to war--I will make it worth your time with money and positions, Scottish nobles.
And so the Scottish nobles sold out their own country in 1707 (gross oversimplification, I know, but it gives you the general idea of how things went down).
I feel that the show did an amazing job with Eloise and Penelope’s storyline. They want to be friends with each other again and will always protect each other, but understand it will take time to be friends again.
I hate that we can’t the portia being oblivious scene. It would have been hilarious.
I will say, both Hyacinth and Gregory's books are some of my favorites! You are right, she is so unserious in Romancing Mr Bridgerton, I have a blast everytime she is in the scene
Well if the show lasts long enough to get to G and H, you can circle back to my channel and I’ll share thoughts on the books after those seasons are released. 😂
Most Scottish nobles went to school with British nobles.
Yeah this would be a couple generations post Prince Charlie’s uprising, the Scottish nobles would have been British imports and very much discouraged from sounding too local.
Its also because the Sterlings are Scottish. Not just by decent but actively living and running lands in Scotland. Although he passes away at Sterling house in London, John and Michael were raised in Scotland and that is where they mainly lived while married. Same for her storyline with Michael, starts in London but mainly takes place in Scotland.
i doubt how much an 8 episode show can spend on just building on pen's and colin's character. but also NEED more bridgerton banter in part 2 idk polin out of every other ship is very much dependent on the family i think!
Book Colin fan here!
And yes, they set him up to fail on the show.
They did him DIRTY. I got the vibe that some Book Colin fans didn’t like me poking fun at him on the show but if folks would just WAIT for me to watch my season 3 press screeners so I could read the book afterwards, I would’ve put a few things together once I saw what changes they made. 👀😆📝
I love your Grease 2 clips, i loved that movie. So many things i can repeat from that movie
Adrian Zmed JUST RECENTLY posted about flying out to NYC because Grease 2 director/choreographer Patricia Birch was receiving a lifetime achievement award and it made me soooooooooo happy to see! 🥹
You've reminded me why I love this book! Book Collin and Penelope are a really good match and he does do a bit of groveling. I think he could have done more but they truly were a great couple. I'm not very happy with season 3 so far, I do hope season 3 ends on a much better note than the first part has left me with. No spoiler's but book 3 and Hycanth's book ( Book 7 I think) you'll love based your commentary so far once you compare their seasons to thier books.
I recently checked out Romancing Mr Bridgerton from my local library to get myself ready for Polin season. Thanks for making this awesome video.
Yaaaaaaaay, shout out to the libraries, we love you, libraries! 📚📚📚📚📚
I LOVED this book! I live for Sassy Penelope and her interactions, especially with Lady Danbury! And Hyacinth becomes one of my favorite characters of the series 😂
Wait… They said they filmed a mirror scene, I thought? For the book girlies..?
I agree, they did short us from some good stuff in the book, the Pen/Lady Danbury friendship being one. But it has been validating seeing some of the changes. Colin being the one to remember how they met, the rom com elements of that scene were top tier for me. As well as the meeting under the willow tree 😂
I love whenever they put in quotes from the book and so far, this seasons have been some of my favorites! Here’s to waiting another 3 weeks for Part 2 😭 and the Colin/Portia confrontation!!
I’m under embargo so I’m not allowed to say ANYTHING about what’s in Part 2. I only brushed up against Part 2 things for what’s already totally off the table (such as Felicity only existing in the book and not the show so any scenes involving her will never be in the show the way they were in the book).
I also loved that he remembered how they met! In the book it’s a one sided look back. But in the show he remembers and specifically uses it as an example of how she can be charming. And the willow tree scene was so brilliantly played out. So awkward while also angsty.
@@LadyJeneviaThe embargo is finished, right? I am looking forward for you to speak freely in the coming vifeos 🥂
I, too had seen all the mirror talk as well as dancing in the square talk, so I read the book so I'd be ready for Season 3...only to be shocked when neither scene actually happened!!! They just TALKED about mirrors and dancing outdoors. I am upset at some of the deviations from source material that the show took, but I do hope in this case they add these scenes the book left out.
welcome to book club
If people have thoughts to share, the time to do it is NOW because I don't have a long list of talking points about Books 1-2 even though I HAVE read them, but it's been basically 2 years since I did that so the details have dissipated. 😂
I read the book and was confused about the mirror emoji because I didn't remember anything about a mirror. I didn't enjoy the book enough to reread it though, so I'm glad you explained it. I'm even happier I didn't go looking for it. I agree with your "🍅🍅🍅, boo!" response. 😂
I won't spoil the book, but will simply say, you will still adore Hyacinth. Her story is in my top 3 or 4 of the entire Bridgerton world. :)
Thank you for mentioning the Eloise and Benedict swing scene! That remains my favorite scene in the show and what Season 3 is sorely lacking! The sibling connections are just missing this season 😢
I’m biased to more easily remember Benedict’s scenes in seasons 1-2 because I like him more 😂 but YES, it’s very weird that a show called “Bridgerton” is lacking proper exploration of the Bridgerton family relationships. 😕
I really wish they never revealed that Penelope was lady whistledown until her season...
I also wish that they kept the friendship being formed between her and lady Danbury. Also, for the series, I really wish that they made Lord Debling a real rival for Colin, even if it's not in a book.... So I'm starting to believe that what you said that the higher-ups got ahold of this writing material for her story.
The mirror scene is more the fans manifesting into existence. For a long time people were pissed JQ didn't wrote the actual scene, so it was source of memes and fanfiction. When the show was announced the fandom became very openly vocal about what they wanted to see.
I agree with the statement we need more time to just sit with the bridgertons. I want to see more of the family banter. Also yes, in the books whistledown is not overly mean, yet in the show, they've made her cause major scandal so I don't know how they will line up the reveal of penelope as whistledown. I thought the blackmail plot was dramatic enough, but apparently not for the bosses.
Will have to see what they actually do in part 2
I am so excited that you have read BOOK FOUR so I can now talk book spoilers with you! ❤ It's been such a long wait!
Man, I'm glad you talked about the mirror stuff, because I was like...y'all remembering a different book than what I remember.
Obsessed with Danbury going "he knows you like him? Guess he's just being a pussy about it then"
Thank you as always. It is a pleasure, to listen to your analysis. You pointed out all the beautiful things from the book(s) that has missing in the show (FOR NO REASON). I get that a flashback increases costs... ok, I can live with it. But most of the things you mentioned... it was totally possible to incorporate...
FIRSTLY AND MOSTLY the bickering and the bonding between the siblings!!!!!!!! WHY????
The other thing is missed is Colin beating himself for not noticing her before and even getting angry (IN A GOOD WAY) at the fact that NO ONE cares for Pen as a "Lady" (going around unchaperoned wasn't a problem for NO ONE because simply no one would thin that she could end up in a scandal!).
I so wish that people of the Ton will react funny to their engagement (like thinking that he has done it out of pity and not because he caused a scandal and he was pissed off by the fact no one thinks that he could have a sexual interest in her)... But at this point, they changed a lot (putting Debling) that I am not sure I will get something like this.
I miss the fact that she is IN LOVE with the Love within the Bridgerton Family, and how all of them treat her very well for TWELVE YEARS. She was part of the family before marrying Colin. The only time we got this in the show was when Colin comes back in 2x02 and Anthony comes to say that he want to go for a walk with all of them and start the sentence "Family, we are going ..........." and Pen is there like Anthony considered Pen as part of the family.
I feel robbed of the scenes where Violet forces his sons to dance with Pen, and the relationship between Pen and Lady Danbury.
I feel robbed even of the dance Pen has with Simon, the fact that Anthony saved her from Cressida (and takes her home after "the scene" with Colin) and Ben saying that Pen is intelligent (in another book).
I don't miss the interaction Colin/Dafne. I think they did a good job with making it a scene of Collin/violet. Moreover in the book SEEMS that he proposes only because they make out in the carriage (out of lust but he is not still convinced it is love). It is so much better in the show because that he talks about FEELINGS before making out. But all is tarnished by LW's issue!
But as an ensemble show I really wished that in one episode we could have all the siblings in each season. I think Rege Jean Page ruined this for everybody (not hate him but he could come back for a 2 minutes scene... like at the marriages???) this prevented Phoebe to come back (if she wished) because it was to odd that Simon was never there...
I feel robbed about a Scottish in-law (after Outlander I am totally a Scottish Heritage LOVER)... I am just happy to know that Sir Phillip's actor is Scottish (he is in Outlander too) and it pains me that probably we will never hear his accent).
I loved the confrontation Pen had with Colin when she hear him saying those infamous words. It is lovely that it is told 2 times with 2 points of view. Before the show aired I hoped that they would then implement the same sense from Colin point of view and maybe, after Pen ran away, he would have said, to the bunch of Lord that he would not court her because she is a very good friend.
And this scene is narrated again in another book. It is such a pivotal scene, we can see a very strong PEN and I miss her reaction.
I still have to admit that in the show they really fixed Colin who in the book had real anger issues. I like most of the show but still knowing the source material, I think they could incorporate some very good elements (I will forever miss Portia's misunderstanding about the proposal and Felicity).
Hyacinth seems so witty, I can't wait to get to her book!
Bloomsbery part is another proof of how they took so much from Book Colin to give it to Show Benedict (I didn't read Ben's book yet but Book Ben out of his book doesn't seem interesting as in the show). Sorry I love Show Ben, no harm is intended to Ben's lovers.
Sorry for the long answer ^__-
I love your energy twards Colin "Mr no thoughts, head empty" glad to know its not just me.
OK, I haven’t even watched the video yet, but I love that you gave in and read the book. I devoured it this weekend.. OK now to watch the video!
I watched my season 3 screeners AND THEN I read the book. 😂
@@LadyJenevia you know, I realized that after I finished the video 😂. Can’t wait for your take once the second half drops.!
Oh I MISS the book Lady D-Pen relationship! It was so, so great!
I love the actor for John and him and Francesca have such adorable chemistry but i WAS really hoping for the Scottish accent
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I don’t know if words can convey the depth of how they hurt me with Colin.
From the moment I heard that they were going to turn Colin into a rake I knew that they ruined him. And ruined the entire story
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(Colin had been taught, all his young life, that it was his duty as a gentleman to protect, care for, and defend the fairer sex.)
Colin declaring that he is a true gentleman in season 1. [Means]
As a gentlemen he considered himself worthy of veneration due to earn respect not handed it on a silver platter, his unearned entitlement had never warped his sense of moral conscience. He does not see women as decorative object or a prize to be won. 🥇
This is why Penelope loves him.
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I honestly won’t ever forgive the writers for ruining the character.
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When they took Colins, sweet innocence and naivety. They took something special from him. Because the way that Penelope loves, Colin is so innocent 😇 and pure. Having Violet do a scene saying how sensitive and different. Colin is. Doesn’t salvage the damage that they’ve done. You know what they could’ve done and said they could’ve showed us that he was this person. Instead of breaking the number one ☝️ visual media rule show and tell, don’t just tell.
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Colins desire to travel 🧳 is not to Rake across the continent 🌏having sex escapades, to fetishize it into his journal
📔 he travels for beauty for adventure architecture, culture and history because he’s a nerd 🧐 just like Penelope.
The fact is, Colin was a different character. He was set up to be a different character. (TVShow Colin) why couldn’t he be the sweet Hufflepuff🦡. Foodie 🍰who seek purpose and greater meaning with his life with intimacy?
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Imagine if he’d come back as hot, sturdy Colin but still had his puppy 🐶 energy. Had all the ladies swooning over him but he doesn’t pay any attention because he’s focused on Pen’s lessons.
Then he notices all the attention he’s getting because there’s one person who he’s not getting attention from anymore because the lessons work.
When I think 🤔 on it, a few more things bother me about the plot.
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1. Pen doesn’t write Colin back during his travels. Why didn’t that bother him? Because if he had feelings all along (I think he did and S2 had us believing he did) then he should have been increasingly unhinged by not hearing back from her. And worried about her.
2. This is a man who pledged to take care of her in season 2. Where is he? Instead he just goes off to be a slut in 17 cities? And doesn’t give two shits about a friend not writing him back? Just goes and fucks some more sex workers and Countesses? Let me write about it in my journals too!
3. His apology was glib and unworthy of Penelope and their friendship. They made it about Penelope thinking she is unworthy not Colin being a drunk ass and insulting her to eligible bachelors/her chances on the marriage mart. laughing 😆with men at Penelope’s expense.
4.Colin comes back does the same whoring about the entire time he is teaching Penelope lessons (for weeks apparently) and then kisses her because he feels sorry for her. Ugh that is so gross to me.
5.Then because he is supposedly so despondent over Pen having a suitor, he goes back to fuck some sex workers again.
6.He only gets up enough courage to tell Penelope how he feels once he knows she is getting proposed to. Like he couldn’t call on her, not even once, or bribe her maid again, to see her and explain how he feels. Instead it’s poor me me me me….
I keep asking myself why I should want ShondaColin with Penelope.
She deserves sooo much better than him.
Ugh… 😣
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The worst part is Lord Debling by comparison, a truly secure man 🧍♂️ who stands for his own conviction. Who is truly his own unapology self no matter. How society snares at him. And think him odd. He is who he wants to be. You can actually respect him. And admire him. For a man who stands on his own conviction. That’s truly a man.
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It would’ve been just as spicy 🥵 repressed newly discovering virgins. There is such a thing as horny virgins. The excited exploration. The cute hilarious awkwardness. The wonder of a whole New World unlocked Wasted potential.
The fanfic did it better.
First awakenings are extremely sexy. And there’s so much more special.
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if the two teens in blue Lagoon could figure it out on the deserted island. 🏝️ there’s no reason why Colin and Penelope can’t figure it out especially since Colin has the knowledge of the logistics of how it works. The friends to lover audience. Are deeply romantic we don’t want frivolous fucking. This was supposed to be our season.
We were robbed of something beautiful 😍
I specifically only wanted him to be a whore for Penelope. Only Rabbid for Penelope. I wanted her to be his first kiss and first time, especially since we were getting a secondhand proposal. now she gets no first and everything is secondhanded and a hand me down.
Because Penelope and Colin are sentimental writers ✍🏻 who document every monumental event in their life’s.
We as the romantic fan base were expecting The friends to lover❤️Trope. To be more intimate. A story where Colin and Penelope have their first awakening together. I was hoping that the show would give me an improved version of Odysseus. as Colin. I didn’t like Greek myth Odysseus. I didn’t think he deserved Penelope.
I wanted virgin demisexual Colins so bad and I was so pissed when I heard that we weren’t getting him for the TV show.
I thought he would be our first demisexual representation, but NO we got another rake. (very original). It’s not like we got that with the past two Male leads, and we’re also getting that with the future male leads.
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The disgusting mentality of a Rake an insecure man who uses women and their bodies as less so they can feel like more. Throwing money at systematically oppressed women for cheap thrills, isn’t sexy it’s not romantic. Only for his soulmate to change him. They didn’t have to make him a Rake to tell the same story of insecurity.
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I had no problem with him being a Showboat, who is charming with a false public image. Him being a virgin erotic writer. Would show that Colin has dichotomy and layers to him like Penelope who is whistledown and people think she’s more mature or older than she is.
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Why keep telling the same story about a rake. Who’s raking away his problems until. The soulmate changes him. The story had so much potential and they could’ve done it better without the Rake plot. The friends to lover. Trope. Is for the deeply romantic. 🥰 it’s the innocence of love. ❤️ they alienated Colin for his fan base. When they made him into a wannabe Casanova. They could easily made him a fake Casanova who’s just lying 🤥 to fit in. That would’ve been something different. It would’ve made him more endearing and intriguing instead of another. Man Whore
Was surprised to see this since technically the season hasn't yet completed the book, but I am new and this is cool!
I absolutely agree with your Pen and Whistledown analogy(? ) correct word? Penelope is kind and caring, not petty and spiteful. The show ruined this part of her personality for me. I still don’t know how anyone is going to forgive her for (show) Whistledown.
When they said Jake sulley-why was my first thought monster inc? 😂
Justice for the Smythe-Smiths! Totally into the idea of a spin off
My greatest hope for the show is that we will eventually get a Smythe-Smith musical in it, 4 notably untalented girls forced to perform in front of her whole of the peerage, only some of which know they are bad, and everyone has to watch and cheer because of their rank. My greatest wish, but I doubt we will get in
There were moments while watching this video that I felt sad. I skimmed through the book back when I first watched S1. So, admittedly, I have forgotten a lot of details. Hearing you describe some of the scenes in the source material made me disappointed that those dynamics/character specifics were not fully explored in the show. But, the discussion at the end about the chaos surrounding the 🪞 emoji on social media made me perk up again! I do think it sucks that the show has been omitting certain parts that are important to the character’s journeys in the books. But, I hope as the show’s fan base continues to expand and more buzz is generated around the franchise that we can push for higher episode counts and more interaction scenes amongst members of the Bridgerton family and between the Bridgertons and key characters in the universe.
As I agree that in the show lady whistledown has been involved in more dramatic plotlines I also think that most of the times she reacted to some injustices anyway. If Colin knew that Marina was asked by Penelope to not involve Him in her Plan and that She did It anyway well aware of Penelope's feelings (She was as She tells him in second season to look at Penelope) I think he would be more understanding. As for Eloise She Was being suspected by the Queen. Pen literally saved her with that article. So yes She had a secret and It was bad anyway but in the end I think they Will realize that everything She has done wasnt so unforgivable putting It in prospective. As for the article about Colin in the season 3 part 1 that was a Little bit more vengeful for no real reason. She was just bitter and resentful. But anyway I just think It Will be linked to the plotlines about them initially don't understanding eachother's point of view in Life.
I think that they introduced the Smythe- Smiths in Queen Charlotte.
Cressida’s scenes were my favorite in S3 Part 1. I also really enjoyed Francesca’s story. It think they could have cut the Mondrich family story and made that a spin off story. It hasn’t fit well the last couple of seasons in the main show. Maybe that would have freed up some time to give the Polin story line some chemistry.
22:25 actually the scene was first written in Book 3: Benedict's story. Collin had been provoking Benedict all day for him to figure out that he was in love. So Benedict in retort said, "yes, just like you are in love with Penelope." Basically Benedict was the first who had pointed out that Collin was in love with Pen...
I do know that there is a VERY brief easter egg reference to the Smythe-Smiths in Queen Charlotte!
I do not have a Netflix account. I have to wait until I can watch with my daughter. I too have heard much about the mirror scene. On May 20th I was able to watch the first 3 episodes. Do you realize how many full length mirrors are visible in these episodes? These mirrors are everywhere. It's one of the reasons I am unable to enjoy films, I am not just focused on the actor. I see the background that the actor is walking through as he/she moves. Portia walks by a huge mirror several times. I watched it from the mirrors perspective, crazy I know.
I completely agree!!! I kept hearing/seeing spoilers about the carriage and mirror scenes in the book. When I got to it, I was silenced. No words. Shocked from the inferences that people took from him simply mentioning that he WANTED to SOME day. Disappointed to say the least.
💯 on the mirror scene! What even was that?! I read the book before seeing the episodes and when everyone kept talking about the mirror I was so confused. It was nothing!
Colin saying he won't marry Penelope in the show was R O U G H. I've been pissed about it since it happened. I had never read the books, and it's crazy to me that they would make Colin seem like such a jerk in the show when it's obviously not remotely presented in the same context or even as the same remark as the book. The lack of a fully realized apology in season 3 has definitely made it difficult for me to feel totally comfortable with Colin, regardless of how exciting it is to see the climax of Polin generally. Honestly it keeps coming to mind for me. "How could he say that? How could he say it that way? How could he make her look bad in front of potential suitors? How can Colin actually be a kind person if he also behaves that way when left to his own devices? When is he going to actually apologize to her? How could she forgive him so easily for that? How are they ever going to fully resolve it?" That's been the running commentary in my mind as I watch this season, no matter what else is happening. I feel like if Colin's comment had happened in the show the exact same way that it did in the book, I would have just been like "Awkwaaaaard" and assumed that his brothers were able to perceive his affection for Penelope before he could- and then I would have been able to move on. But I guess that's why they changed it. I get that shows need different types of drama than books, but if they were going to make Colin behave SO terribly, they really should have done a more thorough job of providing him with a real redemption arc after that, instead of just "Forgive my callous remark. Anyway, I appreciate your friendship, you know that". Uuuugggh. Now I have less sympathy for him in potentially having to come to terms with the fact that Penelope is Lady Whistledown in the second half of S3. That one nasty comment took him down at the knees for me, and only the fact that Luke Newton is the sweetest most scrumptious little muffin with the hugest most fairytale prince-like puppy dog eyes has saved Colin's character any face with me.
Spoiler free, while book 3 is my favorite, book 8 with Hyacinth wad the most fun to read.
regarding the smythe smiths...am i remembering wrong when i think young danbury talked to some smythe smiths in queen charlotte...when people came to her house asking about the title since her husband died
Hayacinth developed that personality cause she's much older in the Polin book due to the ten year time skip lol. It's the funniest thing!
I'm enjoying your bridgerton videos a lot and I was wondering if you're gonna do another kdrama after this. I don't know how you pick what to analyse, but you're talking about class consciousness, worker rights and women's fight, so some kdramas would be right up your ally (to comment on). Especially now they're more accessible through streaming. The Glory was just the beginning
I'm first and foremost focusing on films. I don't really get invested in all that many series anymore. I have debated doing a Vincenzo rewatch on Patreon because that show is SO MUCH FUN but I've also debated doing a Sense8 rewatch (not a Kdrama but still a GREAT one to watch) so... yeah, TL;DR lots of other film reviews and analyses coming. 😊
@@LadyJenevia I respect that
As a fan of the books, I totally agree with the irritation at the show's Lady Whistledown!
The English nobles were always neck deep in Scotland, whether the Scottish wanted them to or not.
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The Smythe-Smiths had a brief appearance in Queen Charlotte, visiting the younger Lady Danbury.
As a Britisher, I would cautiously suggest that Twombley would be pronounced Toomlee. But the author is North American (?), so who really knows?
I'm late to this particular party, but I only just finished watching S3, and all along I was expecting a momentous and risqué sex scene in front of a mirror because of all the emojis and other hype. I was so confused why it wasn't in the show, and then I find out it isn't even the books?! I'm even more befuddled about why the mirror has become such a symbol for Polin. And even more confused why the show didn't just do the mirror scene, given the opportunity to be so body positive.
Im way too early, anyway, love your videos!
Yaaaaaaaaay, thank you for being here!! 🎉
Im pretty sure somewhere in season one they mentioned the smythe-smith last name in passing. I believe ot was during one of the scenes where Queen Charlotte was meeting with people in her sitting room. Can't recall if it was during the ladies coming out scenes or something else
Twombly is actually also the name of a fairly famous modern artist, Cy Twombly. Maybe the name came from there? I too, have an "odd" name, so I think this sort of thing always perks my ears up.
this might be a bit unfortunate to hear, but they've given book colin's entire personality and half of his arc to show benedict. it's really unfortunate that this was a creative decision, and the actor (luke newton) has to face flak for it instead of cvd and shonda, the main showrunners
as a book fan who read nearly all the books after season 1, the thing with the mirror scene is that we felt robbed in the book of that it didn't happened. So we are hoping in part 2 is that Colin stay true to his word and act out the mirror scene and not just saying ge would like to do it. That is my two cents on the matter😂
Thank you for clarifying the mirror thing! I read book 4 before watching season 3 and could not for the life of me remember anything specific about a mirror. I was wondering how I could have possibly missed it. 😅
I agree about the mirror…I had also seen the internet drooling about a mirror before I read the book so when I got to that part I was definitely like….” Uuuuuuhhhh…is that it?!” 😂😂😂 I mean…the fact that the internet at large took such a small comment from Colin and ran with it is really something else 😂😂😂
Also…I think it’s pronounced “Tomb-ly” 😂😂 at least that’s how I got through the book after my intital pause the first time I saw it written out 😂😂😂
All of that noise online just for them to NOT do anything in front of a mirror? 😂
I definitely prefer show Colin. Book Colin was weirdly violent and lacked the self control to really listen to what Pen wanted much of the time. His aggressiveness versus Pen’s I-don’t-even-need-him-to-love-me-fully, I’m-just-happy-for-any-attention-ness was really sad. Pen was mostly passive. And Colin, like every love interest in this series, was angry because he just wouldn’t express his feelings. Boo.
Show Colin is a bit dense, but at least he’s gentle. I’m not afraid of him “bruising” Pen’s arm or thinking he’ll kill her in anger. Dafuq?
I read the book 4 times, and I do not see a toxic abusive Colin.
In the first three books he is always charming and funny, but he is a human being, isn't he allowed to be angry (because he is a man)?
First of all, he was angry because she was alone in a dangerous area. And finding out she was LW he was angry, because he was afraid she would be ruined and shunned.
He was angry because he deeply cared for her, and wanted her to be safe.
Yes, he was grumpy and jealous at times, because she had an (anonymus) career, and he was still trying to find his purpose.
And no, he didn't have to grab her this hard.
But that was only one time, and I don't see any scene in the book, where I would have been afraid he might kill her.
I am not excusing any kind of hateful abusive behavior, but men AND women are only human, we make mistakes, we say and do, often in the spur of the moment, things we later regret.
And even the most kind and wonderful people can have moments where they lash out and are mean.
Toxic and abusive behavior for me is much worse, than someone grabbing your arm (unintentionally) hard.
Yes, we should all check our behavior at times, but there are situations where our emotions run away with us, before they can be controlled.
I would think this has already happened to most of us.
@@barbarafrings9231You are excusing abusive behavior. These are exactly the warning signs that women should look out for. Also weird that your metric for abuse is “well I never thought he’d try to kill her.” Does it have to get to that point before we label things as violent and abusive?
Hyacinth's book is my favorite
Don't forget Daphne beat Nigel up too!
I think people are so obsessed with the miror emoji because they hope the scene will be in the show since it is not in the book. Other than that, you put words on every thought I had on the first part of season three. They really didn't give the leads enough to work with; it's a shame considering the crazy chemistry between Nicola and Luke.
I will say I loved hyacinth’s book.
08:06 i took a screenshot of this page too 😂
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12:24 i LMFAOOOOO’d this meme was peak
This made me much more upset about the show, all I wanted was to make Colin less angry and grumpy and insecure about Pen being Lady Wistledown and they decided to ruin it. In my rewatch I enjoyed certain subplots more than the leads like wtf. This was not my fav book but I loved their relationship so so much and it's not reflecting in the show. Also THANK YOU for saying what needs to be said, i agree with all of the criticism really.
Smythe-Smith is Smith-Smith. Twombley is Tomblee
i mean, benedict in the show is more like book colin than anything. whoops.
I tjink the same 😂😂
Still skipped a lot of scenes from other storylines. As much as I love some of the other new characters I miss exactly what you point out; she is cherished more by the Bridgerton and that is why they eventually get over her being Whistledown. And I do not like the way they made her meaner than Penelope aka Whistledown is in the books.
bridgerton family dynamics and lady danbury penelope interactions were lacking. This season is precious to me and i will always love it. But they could have done better with writing. I dont mind other plots about lady whistledown or experienced Colin as much as i care the lack of deep relationship dynamics.
The leads disappearing from the show is the main reason I don’t want Benedict’s season, I’ll take whatever antics we can get from the sidelines
As a book Polin fan watching one episode per week... I'm half and half. The actors are serving the best they can with the material they have been given but from what I've seen... it's not giving. And the fact that the Lady Danbury/ Penelope connection is SEVERELY LACKING in the show is very much making me disappointed.
I just want the same ending for Collin and Penelope in the show. That is the same as the book.
I also wanted to say that you're talented. I dont think anyone puts the effort in what you are reviewing. I've heard you say that you had up to 6 screening. Does that mean they send out the last two.
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Per a quick Google search, that last name means:
English: habitational name from Twemlow, a place in Cheshire. The placename means 'at the two mounds', from Old English twǣm, dative of twēgen 'two', + hlāw 'mound, hill'.
The surname appears to be dying out.
Hey, Hind is pronounced like wind.
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Ok about the mirror. In our defense the moment they (Bridgerton) posted the first thing about the mirror, we book readers lost our ever loving minds. After that it was just a run a way bus no one could keep up with! 😂😂😂
I’m so surprised by how few comments on this video have been about me addressing the (lack of) mirror hookup in the book. 😂
It's still early... lol
And OMG when we actually get to see what we have been imagining for months. Not to mention finally figuring out what it is they broke while filming. That's what my smuttly little mind has been waiting for!! 😂
@@christinamorgan4248 As I’ve been saying for the past five videos I am under embargo so I will say nothing until Part 2 is out for everyone. 😆
I haven't commented much before because I kept going .... no that's too spoilery, nope can't say that, nope delete that, no that's book Colin n/ or Pen not show Polin. 😇
Thank you. I sooo prefer the book. I do not like Season 3. I said what I said.
I hope I am not giving you a spoiler with my comment, but if I do I apologize beforehand. I am a big Penelope and Collin book fan, and I am dissatisfied with how season 3 is playing out. This season does not justice to the book, at all! And to top it all they keep eliminating certain things of Bridgerton siblings character that should be constant. Hyacinth’s personality is that of a continuation of some of her siblings like Eloise annoying know it all attitude. But she is also playful like Collin, and very intuitive and business like as Antony, etc… but what hurst the most is that there are rumors about Micheal, Fran’s second marriage prospect is to be a girl. I have nothing against including the LGBT community on the show but I hate that to please everybody that are deviating far too long from the original source materias.
I don't think that Fran's second love being female is an issue. Because it doesn't change the heart of the the themes of her story (grief, guilt, can she be happy without being a mother?).
BUT having Fran experience love at first sight when meeting Mich was outrageous because it ruins what they had been building and standing for with Frohn.
There was also one person having an actual and objectively good argument about the change of gender : in her book Fran was the only experienced female lead and that had important consequences for the dynamics of her relationship compared to the inexperienced FL.
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There no Welsh either. No welsh titles, accent same with the Scott’s. 😢
See I knew there was an Xtra adwantage of listening to audio books. I never have to wonder how a mave is pronoused. Cressida Twombley...just.. 2mbley. Like the Number 2.
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