Eugenia Cooney’s DISTURBING Story: Harassment, Hate, and DEATH Threats | EP 1 Let's Get Into It
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- čas přidán 27. 03. 2023
- #EugeniaCooney is one of the most mysterious figures on social media. Her last interview was in 2019 and has gained over 32 million views on CZcams. She has been able to maintain public interest with her distinctive appearance and questionable lifestyle. In this episode we are going to dive into her story and the consequences of social media.
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You can be very positive and use it as a shield. You can be truly kind and still sick. That's all I'll say.
Yes. Yes yes yes.
No, say more lol
Omg yesssss
She is definitely sick and needs help. She relapsed. It happens. She needs help, not hate or death threats.
Nuff said....
When Eugenia originally told the 51/50 story she said that the medical professionals were so shocked by how thin she was that they didn’t want to release her. Now she’s claiming that, it wasn’t as bad as it was made out to be. She’s completely changed the narrative in her head. That’s the sad part. She’s convinced herself that she didn’t need the help, when clearly she did and still does. I hope she gets the help that she needs to be the healthiest version of herself. Whatever that means for her.
Where did she mention the original version of the 51/50? I find it surprising she'd admit how thin she was
She’s not just changing the narrative in her own head. Pro-ana content is literally her livelihood and she knows the real story is bad for her brand.
@@journeydanielle27 in a video of hers, its called something like "mental health talk" in her channel, she literally said the doctors were surprised she was still alive...
@@journeydanielle27 the Shane Dawson and Eugenia video about her return, she talks about how the doctors were surprised that she could be alive and be so thin. If you watch the entire thing she mentions how she barely ate, refeeding syndrome and a ton more that she opens up about. It’s sad to see now because she’s in the same place that she was before treatment.
@@DanielleSnyder you're right, it was the Shane Dawson video, not in the one I said! But she definitely said the doctors were amazed she was still alive.
She doesn't even realize theres a world out there that she's missing out on.
Girl what are u talking about she’s obviously like an addict she cant escape her eating disorder stfu
@@karmaklutz I feel like it's more than that. There's also people out here doing stupid shit like shooting up malls and other shopping centers and just getting violent for no reason.
@ocawplaysgames6521 yes! F that. I hate having to go into public. People are terrifying 😳.
@@ChopstickSam8907 that part.
@@karmaklutz
Omg you just put my life into words right there. I wish I could like your comment more than once
I really don’t like encouraging this idea that Jaclyn wasn’t a friend to her. I know what it’s like to be so deep in a certain state of mind that you resent the people that try to help you, but to act as if Jaclyn was doing something wrong by intervening on a very clear & concerning problem only contributes to the idea that anyone trying to help Eugenia is an enemy.
Jaclyn was absolutely doing something wrong. 51/50s make people worse and end lives in my experience. Some people disagree and have their own experiences, who THIVED after being involuntarily committed. I’ve never met any of those people in real life. Maybe I will someday ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@Constantin9va maybe it wasn't the optimal thing to do, but what else was Jaclyn supposed to do? Do nothing and let a friend rot away? Its not like previous attempts at getting her help worked.
A friend wouldn't make someone's illness a public spectacle in order to appear to be a friend. It was wrong. It made things worse.
Exactly, I feel she cared but her family and esp her mother are prob making $ from her..even if they're not something should have been done years ago for this girls mental health and jus in general. Her appearance is scary and not attractive. We all know if this doesn't change she's going to die.. Matter of time and if that's what she wants... Jacylyn tried to help and I commend her for that. It's not a comfortable situation but she needed the help and pretended to wanna get help but soon after got even worse. That is all on Eugenia. I used to like her but I cannot stand her for what she is doing.
@@who__cares__ Amen💯💯
I think it’s one of the saddest cases of anorexia I’ve ever seen. Eugenia is clearly a sweet person but VERY, VERY deluded . I fear for her. Great interview and prayers for Eugenia 🙏🙏🙏
100% deluded.
I’m in Anorexia recovery. I almost died. I had a mini stroke and a near death experience. I’ve been struggling with it hard lately. My fiancé died in November and my Dad died 6 weeks later in January. I find myself gravitating to Eugenia’s content and my brain starts telling me I can be that self disciplined about eating, too. That I miss my bony body. That I regret working so hard into recovery, and wish I was skeletor in a baggy skin suit again. (That’s what I called myself.) That I can lose just 5lbs and I’ll be happier. Except as I lose weight, it’s NEVER enough. 5 more pounds, then 5 more pounds…. It never ends. My self talk is so cruel calling me worthless trash because I ate a few pickles or banana peppers. I let myself eat normal today for the first time in months and I’m struggling like hell. I don’t purge. I restrict. I just want to be a normal person who can experience true happiness again. My fiancé helped me really get into recovery. He was amazingly supportive. And he died suddenly. And I miss him. I have a therapist, psychiatrist, and family Dr that I am usually pretty honest with. I’ve struggled with anorexia for 35 years. I am so tired of it. That voice (thoughts) is getting louder and louder. I have no idea how Eugenia is functioning and where her energy comes from. I could barely take a quick shower without my knees buckling. I REALLY should NOT even be watching this interview. Eugenia triggers my anorexia. I just wish I could be a normal person with normal thought patterns. I wish my fiancé hadn’t died. It’s caused me to struggle not to relapse. I feel like I have zero control over my life the last few months, but I can control what food I eat. That’s been a struggle in my life since I was 14. PLEASE, if you are struggling, go to the website for the National Eating Disorder Association. They will walk you thru some things. You can even livechat with them. Don’t watch content like Eugenia, who can trigger your eating disorder. You ARE enough. In case no one has told you: you matter, you’re important, and I love you.
keep going on your recovery journey!! it's the hardest thing ever but nothing is worth throwing away how far you have come. i am sorry for how much pain you are going through... thank you for typing this comment because it gave me some hope and inspiration to keep doing my best too.
oh my gosh. first, i’m so sorry for your loss, both your father and your fiancé. i lost my dad on my birthday in 2021 and it triggered me to go into a deep depression and spiraled. i’ve never been diagnosed with an eating disorder but i’ve had extremely bad eating habits since i was a kid. especially in highschool, the restricting was real. i almost don’t even want to type this comment out because i don’t want you to have to keep coming back to this video if it causes you discomfort :(. i just want you to know that a stranger reading this really took this to heart and like the other comment, inspired me to keep doing my best too. i love you so much. i hope you can overcome this and continue to fight this journey. you are beautiful and you are worth it. you are so important in this world.
You are loved and I am proud of you. My sincerest condolences for your losses. I am thinking of you. ❤️
My condolences for your losses. I am so proud of you for seeking help and for all of the progress you’ve made. Hang in there ❤
You’re so brave. I’m so sorry for your losses. I may not know you personally but your comment brought me to tears. It must’ve been so incredibly difficult losing someone so close to you. Especially when you’re going through mental struggles. For me, medications helped me a lot. I spoke to my psychiatrist about my issues and she prescribed me with medications. It took about 2 months to get used to each of them but now i feel a whole lot better. I’m not sure if you’d want to try that but i want to mention it as it is something that has saved me. You’re so strong and I truly hope you get better soon. Take everything one step at a time and don’t forget to love and care for yourself. You will be in my prayers 🤍
I had an ED when I was young. It was uncontrollable. I was super thin but didn’t see it. The more my family and friends said anything, the worse it got. What everyone needs to understand is that commenting to her is NOT helping her. No one can force her to seek help except for her. She is not ready for help. She may never be. She is a kind, sweet person. I hope she figures things out soon. However her wall of denial isn’t even close to coming down.
Thank you! I'm so sick of this witch hunt.
Yes!!! As you said, it gets worse the more people criticize and pick on her body, now imagine it’s not only your family and friends, but the entire internet. I feel sorry for her, knowing how mental illness can warp you perception of reality
@@tarotqueen9118 Feed the witch!!
Facts
I was a heroin addict and no one could ever make me stop using opiates ... Except for me. And one day I decided to stop on my own and I been clean off of methadone for three years. And it was hard but because I did it for me.... It stuck. I know no one could of made me stop. No one. Only me. Only I had the power to stop myself.
She's really wrong for how she'd behaving and she's extremely out of touch with reality, but she is still a person and she does NOT deserve death threats.
Is she?
She’s trans so she’s not a human 🤮
How does she behave that is wrong? She exists, but if people can't watch her content as she's just trying to get by, it's really on them to avoid whatever content that is 😳
@@katatonic726 Nah, can't agree. Her content should absolutely be considered for mature audience, it is self-harm.
You are talking about a literal mental illness. You make it sound as if it is a chosen behavior when it is a mental delusion. SHE IS SICK AND SHE IS BEAHVING LIKE THE SICKNESS IS.
There’s an old saying. Too much family can stunt your growth” I do NOT mean this in reference to weight but being able to step away from your parents and develop yourself as a person is very important and I feel that’s something Eugenia may never get to experience which is really sad.
She will never live independently
Wow okay i appreciate you saying this… i do not have the same weight as eugenia but my mom has definitely stunted me but i always thought i was wrong about that… thank you for putting it in perspwctive
We don’t know the background. Maybe she needs a care giver. I live with my Mum and she helps me with my meds for my mental health. Also I suffer with endometriosis symptoms. I have a job and I’ve been to college, but sometimes you need a help to keep you on an even keel
There’s so much toxicity revolved around this and her situation. I feel there is much toxicity in the family, namely her mother. If she could just wake up enough to at least get into general therapy and talk to someone and start with her mental health. I feel that would be a great thing for her. But sadly I think her mother would be against even that. When everyone on this planet could benefit from talking to someone. Her mother scares me to be honest.
@@starryeyedtarot8876 Why was she sheltered do u know? Like.... medical problems or...? She always has a chaperone too even now as an adult
Her nervous laughter at nothing funny says everything u need to know
I think she is so physically sick it affects her voice :(
Agreed 💯
And you can thank her mother for EVERYTHING. Thru and thru.
I think her mother has done her a great disservice. Whether it is munchausen syndrome or just her mom sheltering her to the point of disability, it's unhealthy. Her mom IS very manipulative of her saying she would have a heart attack if Eugenia took time away from her to go to.the hospital. Eugenia is child like and simply COULD NOT survive on her own. This is cause for concern. But the enmeshment is so strong between the 2 of them, nothing could pry them apart. When her mom passes, she will struggle and vice versa if it happens the other way.
If you have ever seen her content from the beginning of her being on social media- SHE NEVER SOUNDED LIKE THIS- her high pitch weird voice is fake.
It’s flippin’ painful to listen to.
It's not fake her ED has changed her voice
@@Ida-AdrianaSOOOO painful
It covers her suffering
i was anorexic and i hate to say it but my voice changed too. the vocal strings are getting thinner i think and as it gets harder to breathe, the high pitched voice is is easier to do at some point. at this point i'm just waiting for the news that she passed away. it's very much feeding into her ED that people are viewing her content and are vocal about her concerns.. as long as the mum does what she does.. eugenia has no chance. i think she hasn't gotten a period in years at this point.
I myself have issues with Eugenia’s content, but it’s so nice to see someone talk to her like she’s a real person! I love how genuinely happy she looked while talking to you in the intro. It was so refreshing. She deserves to be treated like a whole person, not just as the content she creates or what people think she represents. I feel like we got a glimpse of the real Eugenia.
She always comes across as a super sweet person who wants to see the best in others and in situations...until she feels betrayed. Then she sees things and others much differently, which could be said for any of us, really. (Most of us will go through a time where we feel betrayed by someone we trusted and it shakes our perspective.) For us, we can see that her friends who got her help were acting in her best interests, but Eugenia's issues affect her world view in so many ways. She seems like a really sweet person, though. Like a bubbly best friend.
@@gypsywoman9140lying to someone and/or about someone to get them held in a 51/50 doesn't sound like it's in anybody's best interest. Also didn't those girls video tape most of it and put it on CZcams? If so, sounds like they did that for their own selfish gain.
I agree. So nice to see her genuine. Was s wonderful way Sloan. Great job!!!
10000000% agree
more and more judgement. it’s like these people think they run her life, or her mother runs her life. this is a grown woman. she’s 28. she had the smarts and perseverance to remain on and profit from social media for more than a decade. morbidly obese people are fine, as are misogynists, and every other category of people there is. but she gets the hate, the intense judgement, and all the free psychological counseling from people who evidently believe themselves to be qualified to do that. this is HER life. free will enables each of us to do as we like, to live as we like, to die as we like. if you don’t want your children to watch her, exercise your parental control. if you are “triggered” by her, don’t watch her. the outrage does not match the crime. go care about something you can do something about, go do some volunteer work, and get out your self righteousness elsewhere. Sloan, you did a magnificent job here. your kindness, your questions, your way, was elegant, appropriate, and her responses show how comfortable with you she felt. she was animated, happy, engaged and not attacked. what people expected of you, i have no idea. from the comments it sounds like the angry mob wanted her carted off at the end into forced treatment after you lambasted her for her personal choice because they have the bizarre belief that they’re going to save her life through their strident internet comments, and if there are just enough of them they can really destroy her. internet psychologizing is rampant, there are new popular catchphrases every week, which young people latch onto fervently, sounding awfully like they are looking for ways to reconcile their own lives without taking personal responsibility.
She tries to hide her pain by being extra nice but we can all see through it... I just wish she would be real and get angry instead of trying to brush away the feelings. 😢
There was an incident very recently on twitch where someone made fun of her for supposedly not knowing what she was doing in life (job wise), and Eugenia straight up told the person that she made more money than they make. I was so fucking happy that she finally gave it back to someone, and of course she got called "rude" for it 🙄
I feel like she has a lot of rage and fury burried deep inside of her but she never lets it out because she's afraid she'll be called rude or something. But it's there, and plenty of it .
@@OzmaOfOzzoh for sure! She learned her feelings and needs don't matter so she learned to brushed them off
Idk I appreciate you interviewing her but let’s be real with Eugenia it’ll never be honest.
I’m bothered by the fact that she literally thinks it’s still 2006
I was following her until she started losing a lot of weight and started not listening to the followers that were genuinely worried about her. I had to stop after that because it just kept making me sad. I even tried reaching out to her but it went unnoticed because there were so many people worried
That’s the thing, as long as she doesn’t realize that for herself, nothing can be done. You can’t force someone into recovery and sadly, eating disorders often have the side effect of completely distorting one’s reality. All we can do is hope that she sees it one day
Sadly but I think the negative attention is still attention and this has been her thing. What she's known for being like she is. If she changes, maybe she fears it all going away? Who knows though really?
She’s a creep and she manipulates everyone. She won’t stop flashing children on her streams despite being asked to stop
She always been like this what are you talking about?
@Mia C At the very beginning she looked healthy so if she had ED, it wasn't noticeable. I started watching her at that time too. Then it felt like she dropped weight so fast and her personality changed.
I don’t think this should have been about her hate, but WHY she even gets hate and her real issues. Her avoidance is literally insane
I don't think she would have agreed to it.
She doesn’t owe you any kind of disclosure and it is weird that you guys think you can even demand it.
Why do people feel the right to know her personal life tho.? I don't get it
She gets hate for existing as a mentally unwell perso. You feel entitled to a conversation she doesn't want to have.
She’s not ready to face that, I DO think though there are people that are so nasty to her and make fun of her for unnecessary reasons but then there are people who want her to face the danger she’s putting herself in and the denial she’s lived in and they also get clumped into “the haters” like any form of criticism is automatically hate or anyone that points out how sick she is is hating . I guess it’ll take her ending up in a hospital bed but even then I don’t think she’d face anything
I’m not trying to be mean but when I look at her I just don’t understand how she’s alive, physically
Its not called hating you or picking on you or being mean to you? Its literally mainly people being completely concerned about your health and safety
Telling her you’re concerned hasn’t made a difference so at this point it seems annoying and patronizing. She reads it every day- I don’t think it means anything to her so why keep bothering her?
The parts where she’s so hesitant if she’s “allowed” to give more details are so concerning…
What part?
Who i she looking at off camera its like shes being directed by someome
@@ashbash3783she’s in front of a wall
She talked a lot and really didn’t answer any of his questions. Poor girl
I'm assuming an ED is a similar mindset to drug addiction. Correct me if I'm wrong please, but as a recovering addict, it took me so so long to acknowledge I had a problem because I didn't want to face it. At one point I genuinely didn't think I had a problem and no one could convince me otherwise. Then I realized I had a problem but I didn't care, that's how I wanted to live my life and I thought I knew best and I wasn't worth anything better. Then it got to a point where even if in the back of my head I knew my life was falling apart and I was so so sick, I still didn't want to admit it because I didn't want to deal with all the damage I've caused in every aspect of my life, I didn't want to deal with trying to get better, or accepting all the bad shit I've done. It felt like too much to deal with. Not only did I have all the issues that caused me to use in the first place but now I had 10000 other issues because of using. And if I'm being completely honest I started to fall into victimhood and I enjoyed having an excuse as to why I wasn't doing things I knew I should be, because I was sick. It took a long time to come full circle and realize I can't live without drugs because I might die but I can't continue to use because I might die. Can't live with it but can't live without it type mindset. But I found a tiny glamour of hope and there was a part of my soul that knew I was meant for more than that, and I deserved so much more. That's when I got help. And I have a feeling that EDs operate similarly mentally. The more you told me I was an addict and I'm sick the harder I pushed back. I had to get there on my own. Some people do and some people don't, with drugs and EDs. For both, it's a life long thing you have to live with and manage. Again, I could be wrong because I never personally dealt with an ED but from what I can gather it seems that way to me. Again, correct me if I'm wrong !
Well both stem from trauma/childhood neglect so they're similar in that aspect at least.
@@rebeccaspratling2865 yeah that makes sense. I was talking about the mental cycle as well tho too, but like I said I could be wrong
There are different theories on treating eating disorders. One is the addiction model, which is what best worked for me. But some eating disorders are not an addiction and are based on a somatic manifestation of anxiety.
This! You took the words right out of my mouth. Come from the same experience and agree with you. Also as a side note, proud of you for getting clean! Fight the good fight, finish the race, keep the faith!
@@AnaliseFrank oh really? Interesting! Thanks :)
Sloan - thank you so much for your professionalism & grace while conducting a controversial interview! Your handling of Eugenia is the standard for true journalism. I'm thrilled to see where you go from here.
Major kudos for your apology to her & for having the difficult conversations.
Yes, I appreciated that he apologized to her, too. He mentioned having apologized privately, so I'm glad to know it wasn't just for PR purposes.
I disagree completely. She needs to not have any platform until she gets help
i disagree. sloan is NOT helping her in any way. he is enabling her.
Her Netflix documentary is gonna be wild. This whole case is giving me Gypsy Rose Blanchard vibes.
very that
Yup
While leading with love is important, it can't be ignored that she isn't as "fine" as she claims. I just hope that she sees that and gets help before it's too late.
Yeah. I think the best thing we can all do is come to her with love or neutrality. Anything else from strangers/parasocial/& surface friends will intensify anyone's problems so... it's hard to remember that, but people REALLYYYY need to be mindful.
She knows she isn't fine. She knows and see the comments, she knows people are worried. Truth is at the end of the day, this is what gives trafic and views to her content so none of the social media is helping her. People not ignoring her (including me right now) are only contributing to her downfall.
Let's not forget that anorexia is a disease that is not self-inflicted. The research concludes it can happen to anyone at any age and does not need insecurity or bullying for it to happen. There is a HUGE genetic component alongside environmental factors.
@@asdfguiwsertyuio3689shut up there nothing genetic about an ED
When I was underweight my family members immediately expressed concern. There is definitely something wrong with her family
I'm at a good weight and my family still tells me to gain weight. Lmao.
This had to be painstakingly tough for Sloan but he navigated it well..
if he’d addressed the elephant in the room more aggressively, she would’ve laughed it off & shut it down.
Despite the pain behind her constant smile.. she’s completely disconnected. It’s sad because she’s genuinely a good person.
He’s avoiding the real issue here with idle chitchat. I find this interview superficial. If I were interviewing her I would tell her I don’t know about anyone else but I care about you and I want to help you. If you want my help I’m here for you. No one else seems to be doing that.
@@wendylederer367 because she’ll so blatantly deny ANYYYYTHING is possibly wrong with her. So everyone just placates her little “I’m so healthy what is everyone talking about?” facade. And you’re right, because it’s just reaffirming HER and she’ll literally never see the light of anyone and everyone is so worried about treading so lightly because they don’t want to be offensive. I don’t think it’s offensive, I think she’s deeply concerning.
I commend Sloan. I think if you get to the end of this episode it's just... beautiful really. Everyone who barely knows her or parasocially saying things WILL/DOES make addiction worse & that goes for anyone/anything. But I know it's her family who can help, & if they can't, at the end of the day it's necessary for humans to FEEL loved ... in whatever way they can accept the love 🫤 even if it's sad to see. Really we all have to want help to be open to it ❤️🩹 we all get there someday *hopefully*.
“My parents are still together for the most part and umm I guess they mostly have a good relationship I think” - she’s constantly accidentally saying how bad things are with her home life. She could barely list what she does outside filming and she does not film that much so it really have away how much time she just have to just be stuck in bed.
@@Stephaniemickle If I were her mother she would be in a hospital. I would have her committed and put into a hospital. This is a life or death situation! If I could talk to this girl I wouldn’t bullshit her. I would tell her what I thought. That’s what people do when they care about someone.
She seems fake.
I think she’s maybe covering her sadness. Her voice is overly sweet and high pitched .. nervous giggles,big forced smile.
I guess she’s protecting herself as much as she can.
There’s zero emotion shown, just a big smile and laughs at things being “crazy” rather than addressing the obvious!
Being online like with controversial content such as hers , makes her fair game for judgment & trolling.
We don’t know how to respond.
Nobody normal wants to be mean to this girl, but are we expected to see her emaciated (skeletal) physique as normal?
Should we pretend it’s “ok” ?
She wears tiny clothes & shows off her ribs etc by lifting her top in provocative poses .. so she is certainly not hiding.. she’s really “putting herself out there”.
How should we react to this ?
Being bullied is awful & certainly never helpful.
MANY of her followers reach out to her , begging her to get help , yet she only ever responds to compliments.
I think she sees all of it as negative.. but many people are concerned for her.
She most certainly lives in a bubble .. she’s 30 but seems more like 17 in her attitude and her clothing style.
I think a break from the spotlight would be really good for her. ❤
Im glad someone said the truth. -
I couldn't have said it better if I tried. ❤
She is fake bc she is not mentally ok
She's THIRTY??? Okay, wow, I thought she was a young college-aged girl, 20, 21ish (who thinks college is stupid, that remark of hers made me mad but I digress). She needs to get her own physical and mental space -- from her mom especially. She needs to discover her true self and know that it is FINE to have feelings and express them, and NOT promote anorexia as "totally fine."
@@CovetAmory yeah 30!!!! It's sick
Thanks so much for having me on Sloan!! Congrats on your new podcast!! 💖
I love this for you…. You are a beautiful human being 💕
Well done Eugenia! You came across beautifully 🤩🙌
❤❤❤
I love this! I loved watching this. And I love you! I hate that everyone loves to attack you online. Big hugs and love to you EC! Can't wait to catch your next stream 💜
Loved this SO much & love you more, you beautiful soul! So nice to hear your side of things & your story, thank you for sharing with us! 💖❤️🔥🖤🙏🏻👸🏻😇🥰💋
I feel like her true authentic voice was evident the fist minute of the interview and she quickly realized they were filming and tuned the pitch up and the fake, inauthentic version of herself took over. CZcams and her parents should be held legally liable for the harm that comes to her now.
But she’s an adult.
Jacklynn Glenn did nothing wrong. Eugenia might hate her, but I don't.
Kati Morton and Shane are actually the ones that don't care. Kati Morton told Jacklynn how to do the 5150 and then went on to interview Eugenia and take her side, never telling her that she was the one to tell Jacklyn to do it (as a therapist). Sloan, its nice you gave her a voice but saying it was nasty? Would you say its nasty if a friend tried to get someone to not unalive themselves or something? Like, sometimes people do things the best they can. I believe Jacklyn. I believe Eugenia's experience, but I think shes just inaccurate.
Also I believe her experience at the facility was probably trash. I doubt those people do a great job (its terribly sad) and from her experience I would think twice before ever trying to issue a 5150 unless the person is in immediate danger. I just think Jacklyn didn't know that it would be bad.
So it is her fault. She 5150 her without even doing any research on what it was The moment she knew she would have to LIE to social workers/police and exaggerate the situation to extremes to get her 5150. She should of known what she was doing was wrong.
5150 is like taking you to prison, and when all the police show up and you have a girl that was home schooled all her life and never leaves her house and she’s like 19. Brought to a strange location. I mean I can’t even imagine them thinking that was an okay thing to do to someone that’s psychotic behavior.
@@Peachkins The situation isn't exaggerated lol. Look at her? Also, Kati Morton told her to do it. A PSYCHOLOGIST. There is text proof that she did. So I'd assume that made Jacklyn feel okay about doing it. Then Kati used Eugenia to make a sappy video without telling her that she was on Jacklyns side beforehand. Its a messy situation and I don't blame her for not wanting to talk to Jacklyn if shes triggered but I don't blame Jacklyn and I don't think its nasty. I don't support bullying EC but I do not believe shes healthy and I wish she would just own her struggles (and this is coming from an unhealthy person who owns my struggles.)
I think it's nice to see her speaking in full sentences, and acting somewhat more like her age. I wish she would be more direct instead of tip-toeing around certain topics regarding her health. I guess it's not really anyone's business but I think it would be beneficial to her and her audience if she just said "yes I have a problem and I am dealing with it privately" instead of all the "I'm like okay and stuff" responses.
I can't stand the fakeness. I agree it's like the elephant in the room. I wish she would get real and I wish people would get real with her. It's not going away and if she continues to be a public image then she should talk about it because something will happen to her if she continues this path.😢
Didn't she say that before like on Twitter?
We're 2 years apart in age I don't feel like I'm watching someone of my age group. It feels more like 14-16. It's incredibly frustrating to watch. Everyone tip toes around not wanting to offend her but it's just enabling. Ugh sorry for the rant haha
@@mistermarsh1 seriously
@@missmeliss4352 I agree
I’m honestly surprised she’s still alive at that weight. I want her to get help so badly. I want to see the recovery story. It’s been too long now. I’m losing hope and just expecting to hear about her death now :( it’s sad
I always wonder how she's still alive and not going through organ failure. That's kinda fascinating.
I look her up every now and again to see if she’s alive
I don’t think she’s capable of working a “real” job respectfully
Well it’s good that she is smart enough to capitalize on social media then. That takes bravado and some savvy skills… she’s been doing it for what… like ten years now? And I disagree about her not working a “real job”….because social media is a real job. She’s her own brand… same as the Kardashians and many many others.
@@cinnamongirl23 she's making money off her illness.
@@cinnamongirl23 I just couldn’t see her physically standing for more than 15 mins that’s what I meant I couldn’t see her working any other job* also if she looked like a typical person idk if she would be as successful online seems like a lot of her “fame” comes from shock appeal
I believe she has dual addictions she's dealing with. One of course, is the eatong disorder, and the other is public attention/,fans etc. Which also, I'm sure, is her income. Those 2 addiction go hand in hand, if that makes sense? At least they do now, which is why she's getting sicker than she's ever been before.
Im not saying that people should hate but imagine being a dad with a daughter that died from having an severe ed due to people like eugina and her denying every kind of responsibility, saying that people shouldnt be concerned about her. Newsflash, it aint all about you, you are harming people, i dont care how nice you are in words if actions dont follow
It’s definitely a hard situation
41 yo, former ED survivor here. All I ask is that you hear me out.
Personally, I feel it’s her life and hate never encourages anyone to make positive change, it does the opposite.
Now I get both sides of the argument. I can admit that if there was this type of social media in the early 2000s, she would have been an inspiration to me to not eat. I was once scared to be 100lbs. So I get where others worry about her influence on their minor children/teens. But let me play ‘devil’s advocate’ for a sec. Would you feel the same if your child/teen were always following/watching ‘extremely overweight you tubers’? It’s the same but on opposite spectrums of the scale, right? Which youtuber frightens you more?
My 2cents… yes, I get it, but…
1) those who are 18+, if u don’t like Eugenia and what you feel she represents, then don’t watch- a simple solution to your frustration.
2) If you are a parent that’s worried about your child/teen being influenced, then maybe have an actual conversation with them. And are they just watching her cause they like her quirkiness or is it that you see you child seems to focus on food a bit too much, or the lack their of, counting calories,etc?
On a side note: I work for child protective services. Here is my reality…I see too many young/teen girls (and boys) who are so obsessed with image/weight and obsessed with cutting themselves “because all their friends do it and it’s the cool thing to do”. Yes, you read that right. It scares me that 9 out of 10 times, the parent(s) tell me: a) they had no idea that this was going on, b) share with me they are too nervous to upset their child if talk to them about “that kinda stuff” and/ or c) worried that their child “might not like them or be mad” if they bring it up.
I’ve seen too much tragedy, especially for teens/early teens. Talk to your children, ask them questions, don’t be afraid to offend them if it means saving them in one way or another. Stop blaming Eugenia Cooney. She is just but a needle in a haystack. And you my dear parents are the shelter of that haystack.
Well said Jamie!! I agree wholeheartedly. So proud of you for fighting through! ❤ much love and respect for your work with children, also!!
This is so well said, I feel like you really put this into perspective for me. Removing one individual creator from the internet will not solve these larger societal issues pertaining to body image and relationship to food. She is not the cause of these issues, she is a symptom of the beauty, fashion, and fitness industries that have historically and incessantly preyed and profited on young vulnerable children and young people. If you are a parent worried about your child, I echo OP's recommendations to ask your child questions in non-judgmental ways and cultivate a space where they can trust you to share what they are going through. Seek guidance and support from professionals, it is better to be on the safe side than to just hope that it's "not that bad" or can be prevented by taking down individual content creators. Unhealthy body images and eating habits are EVERYWHERE in our society. For children feeling this way, they WILL SEEK OUT material that reinforces this belief and harmful patterns regardless of how you try to censor their content. Consider how your own relationship to your body and eating may have planted the seed in your child's young, developing brain. It's often small comments from the people we look up to that activates this thought pattern and we may not even realize it's happening. Blaming these very tactful and profitable capitalist enterprises on individual, small creators like Eugenia who are victims and survivors just like you and me, is only serving to perpetuate the harm and longevity of these large corporations and billionaire families that benefit from our EDs, skewed perspectives, and mental illnesses. Have these conversations with your kids so they can develop a critical perspective and critical thinking skills about the world around them. Equip them with the tools they need to actively push against these societal norms and beliefs. Individuals who have made disgusting videos exploiting and humiliating Eugenia and other human beings for views, profit, and clout should be the individuals we direct our outrage towards. Not the people who are just trying to make a living while dealing with their own personal challenges offscreen. While I value Sloan's apologies to Eugenia and she seems to genuinely receive it, I think this should just be the beginning of Sloan's efforts to reverse the exploitation of Eugenia that Sloan and other creators have PROFITED and benefitted from. Call out other creators on this platform. Donate the profits of past videos on Eugenia to an organization that does great work with people with EDs. Make a video interviewing an ED survivor and professional to spread awareness on EDs and how you can support yourself or a loved one who may be experiencing this. "I'm sorry for how I contributed to the narrative" is lovely but it's just the start of an authentic apology of this nature. Back up your words with actions. You have the platform to make this space meaningful and healing for so many. Please use it. 🖤
With all due respect your correct in many things you stated but you are also wrong in SOME. Im not going into a long statement about it but you Im sure you know what Im speaking on
It isn’t about how her content affects others-she isn’t responsible for other people. But the attention she gets (the good and the bad)-fuels HER illness. I don’t think it benefits HER to be on these platforms.
I love what you said but you said said it yourself “if this was the early 2000s this would be an inspiration for you not to eat”….this is why it is hazardous as well as binge eaters on CZcams. However I don’t agree with deplatforming someone for their mental health issues, I just feel she will eventually succumb to her disease and it is being all shown online
This is not a negative critism of the podcast, but this woman infuriates me.
She has an illness, not just a physical but a mental one. You can’t judge her for her illness. It’s like trying to judge a person in the throws of addiction
@@MelMoy11 you most certainly can. Personal accountability and judgement comes with being in the public light
You anti-stans have turned me into a Eugenia simp. I have a white knight/cris Crocker impulse that’s y’all activate. LEAVE EUGENIA ALONE!
When asked if she was okay and if anyone should be concerned, she responded that she was fine. I believe she’s in denial about her struggles. It's essential to avoid bullying her, but it's equally important not to dismiss the issue just because she denies it. Instead, approaching her with empathy and kindness is very important. Finding appropriate ways to offer help and support while acknowledging the existence of the problem is the best course of action. I had hoped that you would have offered her resources and assistance rather than accepting her answer at face value. Ultimately, it's up to her to seek help, but demonstrating care and concern can make a significant difference in encouraging someone to seek the help they need.
"but it's equally important not to dismiss the issue just because she denies it." MTE. Bullying is not excusable, but I think it's equally detrimental to accept her own distorted reality so as not to make her uncomfortable.
It's like an addict, they are aware. Sadly you cannot force her, she will go one day when she is ready. We also really do not know what else is going on. There are only snippets of her life which lead to a lot of speculation. She also does not owe anyone any explanations, which everyone needs to respect. There are boundaries people need to respect as well. She is allowing you to watch and gain access to parts of her life, it does not grant you entire access and it does not allow or give you a right to demand answers of her private health matters.
It wouldn’t come across as authentic showing concern and giving resources while filming a podcast
@@tdob6067 Depends the way it’s approached in my opinion
@@doctormarvel1894 not sure if that was entirely directed at you but it’s something a lot of ppl need to read. i personally read it as an addition to your comment.
It breaks my heart that she is still suffering. I hope one day she can get the help she needs. She seems like such a genuine soul😭
It’s always those that suffer the most.
and she’s been able to keep her bubbly personality through all of it ❤️🩹
She looks worse than before. She's so nice and positive. I wish she didn't want to die. This is an extreme case.
@@m.donez8 she keeps up a fake persona, i think when we see her break down and get mean over the littlest comments, that’s the true her. insecure and lacking personality and passions. it’s not her fault but now that she’s almost 30 she’s responsible for herself :/ i don’t think she’s actually sweet.
@@abbyz13 comments about her body or health are not “the littlest thing” though.
when she genuinely said that shane dawson has good quality content i stopped trusting her judgment 💀
Her mother is so incredibly enabling!!! Being a mother myself, I would never think that any of Eugenia’s actions are ok!!! She is so sick & needs to get help before her body completely gives out on her! Thank you for always being so respectful Sloan!!! I’ve been a subscriber since the very beginning 🤍Edited…btw Eugenia, no one, & I mean absolutely no one, thinks that you are EVIL! We are all very, very concerned about your health because you have an illness! I get it. It’s hard to admit it sometimes! I’m a recovering addict. I will be one forever & I’m ok with that because I’m working on myself every single day! If you happen to see this comment Eugenia, please just help yourself for you & no one else! Remember, NOBODY THINKS THAT YOU ARE “EVIL”! Just very sick!
Well I think a person like Nobye2141, who just called Eugenia narsistic sociopath not deserving help is not saying it to help her. A person who says a thing like that to a suffering victim Is not nice and its a very evil thing to do!!! Such people are truly evil while writing them!
What a great interview Sloan. At the 5150 part how you lead her into these tough questions with letting her feel sympathy. The lawyer statement and then your silence while letting her speak got you more information than anyone else. I hope she gets help soon
Her and Amberlynn Reid despite being on the polar opposite ends of the spectrum would be an epic collab to get well together.
At the end of the day she's a sweet person with a good heart. I know we all want the best for her but harassing her helps nothing. It's her battle guys. My sister was an addict and I tried the tough love but honestly, I wish I had just been more supportive of her but I didn't know how until it was too late.
She posts videos exposing her underwear..she knows exactly what she's doing and for who
@@MiCocinitaMX that's weird. I've never seen that.
@@Lilybitch85many times has she exposed her cooter and nips
She's a horrible person, her community is full of pedos
@@Lilybitch85 the person hasn’t given context. they’re likely talking about try on hauls, some of which include certain cosplay/items like bra-type-tops i can’t think of the name
some are quite revealing and there have been some accidental flashes (debated by ppl but i think they all got edited out)
When Shane did his doc I also reached out to EC and apologized for my contribution to the hate mob. She responded so kindly and sweetly, she is such a genuine person and of course she said it was no worries and she thanked me for apologizing and i still to this day HATE that i ever put this kind woman down and it was on her own youtube channel too. SMH
Sending so much love and support to EC and to Sloan!
It's kind of you that you apologized, I fear that a lot of people don't feel as much remorse. In my opinion she really needs a social media break, I feel it's the core issue that contributes to her suffering mentally as physically. Internet is basically her life. She needs to get out more, talk more offline have a social life.
She is 100% fake, and mentally ill and delusional, and she again cannot admit she has a problem. She was genuine after she came back from rehab and was putting in effort to recover (which she doesn't realize now). Now she's in complete denial again and saying she lied about everything. There is nothing authentic about her.
It was so nice of you to apologize. This girl has a heart of gold & it’s sad to see so many people - mainly women, mothers even, in their 30s-50s ganging up on her like mean girls. People are cruel & have no empathy.
She may not mean to negatively influence people, but she is. It's undeniable. Not everyone is a bully. Some people genuinely care about her impact with having such a large platform comes some responsibility and accountability.
Yes and the “hate” her mom gets i feel most of it is people thinking how can she not get help for her own daughter
Exactly. What sort of positive impact do you expect to have on people when you can't comfortably and confidently acknowledge the glaring truth yourself?
I was a huge fan of her in middle school and I developed a eating disorder throughout the time and realized she wasn’t a good influence I remember her noticing my fan page and I freaked out it’s sad to look back on
If someone sees a visibly ill individual, and thinks, “omg I wish I looked like that!” Then they already had their own disorder to begin with. Eugenia isn’t the cause of anyone else’s mental disorders
She is no one’s parent and minors are not supposed to be on the internet, especially unsupervised.
They are at risk of encountering WAY worse than proana channels or websites.
Personally, I'm glad Sloan gave her a voice when most people widdle her down to one aspect, but she is so much more than just her ED. I know it's hard to ignore but I really don't think she is in denial of it, I think she's just accepted this is what she wants and she enjoys having that control in her life since most EDs are about taking back control. She seems like a good person, I don't think she deserves the hate she gets just because she developed unhealthy coping mechanisms from being in a toxic environment.
Edit: Just finished and wanted to add Sloan did an amazing job of being able to talk about touchy subjects without being triggering with his wording. That was so considerate of him, especially since most interviewers don't do that at all.
🙌 agreed!
Amen. 💯
It makes me kind of sad that she doesn't realize (or is in denial of) the dangerous influence she is having on young people that would do anything for social media acceptance.
I guess, but also she should be allowed to exist even as a disordered person. Her channel & content is for Her at end of day y'know? She doesn't lie she just avoids/talks around things. It's not like kylie Jenner when she lied saying her lips were just make up 😅 besides young kids who have a disease will find other ways to trigger themselves, it isn't like Eugenia talks about weight/ diet promoting restriction or anything 🤔 it's a really complicated subject though for sure 😔
@@katatonic726 Eugenia actively promotes anorexia. You are delusional if you think she doesn't.
I know you were in a tricky spot because you were the one interviewing her but let us not pretend jaclyn & their friends did ANYTHING wrong with the 5150 situation & that this is/has been a healthy & 100% kosher situation...
he let her speak on it, fine, but then he called them nasty? he lost me there
But they did do things wrong. They had no idea what they were doing. I participated in an intervention, and my friend still died like 6 months later. She wasn’t ready for help, and being forced into recovery is what made her relapse fatal.
@@DanielleStarry Does Kati Morton get any blame for suggesting to Jacklyn to do that? As a therapist, I bet Jacklyn thought that was okay since she suggested it. Then Kati and Shane used Eugenia for content. Nobody talks about that.
@@BrianaLynn7 she is not a therapist lol
@@Crestos98 hard disagree. If you love someone you will do whatever you want to stop them dying at their own hands. Eugenia needed urgent help then and she still does now. It’s only a matter of time before you ED wins..
also for me what’s so sad about this story is Eugenia has ALWAYS been thin there is pictures of her as a child around 12 & there is clearly already an underlying issue noticeable. Not only is Eugenia sick but she has been sick like this for most of her life since a young child is so heartbreaking to see that she can’t see how beautiful she is when I look back at the video when she’s with Shane Dawson right after recovery. She’s literally glowing.
Yes!! That was the best she ever looked...and yes she was still thin, bc obviously she's probably already a thin person. She looked so good and happy...I watched that, but once I saw her start to lose again, I had to stop...the delusional shit...I just can't support it. And find it weird that CZcams allows someone to just post so freely...at least age restrict her content...that's just my opinion though. I don't think young girls and boys should be allowed to access her content. It's harmful.
She needs to realize it on her own and get the help she needs. I pray she will!
if she’s that used to seeing herself thin for so long, than after rehab she must have felt she was at her biggest yet. so sad to think that bc she was still extremely thin when she got out
It's when she started doing obvious body checking where she'd "accidentally" flash her underwear and purposely angling the camera down her shirt and checking to make sure everyone is seeing her entire ribcage, her nipple included!
She models bikini's and spins around.
And you can visibly see every bone in her body!
I'm not even exaggerating!
It's just too painful to see her wasting away right in front of our eyes and continues to say she's fine, doesn't need help and her doctor tells her she has no health concerns....
And we all know that's just absolutely absurd 🐂 💩!
I'm disappointed Sloan just fuled and fed into her delulu narrative and masks it as "positivity" 🙄
I dont understand why Sloan removed his videos on Eugenia or felt the need to apologize. From what I remember his videos were not inappropriate or shaming her but more so addressing a concerning situation.
It just feels like this entire video lacks substance just like Eugenias videos. Lots of fluff and nothing is actually addressed or talked about. She cant even acknowledge WHY people were trying to remove her from CZcams or what the video she did with Shane was about. I guess its extreme denial? Its also not surprising she supports Shane and Jeffery still either..
he did a video blaming her mom for ED pretty much and Eugenia obviously didn't like that so he took it down and apologised
I want to also say, there’s a huge difference between actual haters who are rude & cruel, and people who truly care about you & your wellbeing, because those aren’t haters.
Saw on Spotify, now watching here! The complexity of an ED can make it challenging for individuals to acknowledge its existence fully. It is essential to encourage and support them to develop a healthy relationship with their body and prioritize their well-being. Although they may feel that they are fine and misunderstood, the reality is that they are struggling with a severe problem that could significantly impact their health. It is crucial to approach the situation with empathy and care instead of cruelty.
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@@livvybabi-oh8yz They’ve been taken care of. Sorry about that. Missed this one from her.
@@simplymonca Thanks Super Mod ❤️
Her mom seems really weird. I have no idea how to place her. She is not typical though.
@@livvybabi-oh8yz 🫶🏻
She could make so much money and get so many views and support if she just documented her journey getting better. She would blow up the internet fr. How much longer does she have if she continues this way??
Kindness goes a long way. While I’m sure people wished for more hard hitting questions, it’s hard for someone to open up if they feel like they’re being attacked or confronted. I appreciate your positivity Sloan, you seem like such a kindhearted and loving person 💕
I think she put a lot of trust in him just to do this and maybe it can be the beginning of something between the two of them. With time and more trust she might be open to the harder conversations. IF that’s even something Sloan was comfortable with doing
@@elexis3728 agreed, sometimes you have to meet people at where they’re at and accept that you can’t force a certain outcome
I was disappointed that Sloan would even give her a platform, but you helped me see it differently. Unlikely, but maybe he could help her get help someday. Showing her kindness doesn't mean he is enabling her. ❤
@@Sarahcantsleep Aww, I totally get where you’re coming from too though. We all want Eugenia to get better, but it’s such a complex situation when Eugenia herself and those around her don’t seem to be doing anything about it. None of us know for sure what's the best way to approach this situation, and I think Sloan handled it in the best way he could.
I knew the hard questions weren't gonna be asked but I guess this is why rich lux never speaks about her because she's gonna seek help and get help on her own terms on her own time when she's ready if she'll ever be ready and no amount of positive or negative comments are gonna change that definitely cannot force a person to seek medical attention and can't force The truth out of someone.
I’m glad you reached out to her Sloan. She seems so isolated and could use a real friend.
She was asked what she does outside of steams CZcams & omg she really just lives for her online presence 😢 It’d be a dream for her to travel the world solo, maybe go out with friends..walk picnic without mom..
@@xragdoll5662 sad
Not that it’s our business, but I wonder if we’ll ever hear her real story of her life. I hope it’s from her post recovery and a tale of triumph instead of postmortem from other people
Abusive and manipulative mother... Most likely
There was one story she told of her “first kiss”, and it was 3 boys toying with her at age 12. I think she has experience SA and she’s such a “people pleaser”, it is probably a sad story.
I have 20 years in recovery with my ED, & watching Eugenia triggers me a little bit. I don't want to come off as being a bully, but she doesn't look good at all. I wish her well & that some day she will get the help she needs.
Hey same here I feel you!!!
As a friend to a few people who survived EDs ..this worries me so much for yall who will be triggered by this.. Eugenia is clearly sick and has been for a very long time, its worth being worried over, its not bullying to worry
Life doesn’t come with a trigger warning babe, grow up
I hope so, too. Unfortunately she is in the environment that made her sick and she relapse and is in denial. She will need to realize it on her own and choose to make a recovery.
@@Alexandra-ng1ih Clearly life doesn't come with empathy for some people either.
She needs help but literally its a lost cause at this point so many people have tried to help her and she just does not want it anymore so there is nothing anyone can do. Its extremely sad. Ive struggled with gaining weight my entire life. She is not okay it is extremely obvious. Ive always felt so bad for her but she doesnt want help.
Thats Right for me too She is lost and i Believe She must learn it the Hard way even it means That She dies(i don't mean That Bad, i Just don't have Better words for it) in the End its her Own Life and what she does with it🤷🏻♂️🙁.
Oh Shnaaaap! The new intro! Love it! But low key been waiting for this one, I 100% have no doubt that she is a very kind person, but fully believe that she is aware of the body image she encourages online but comes across as completely oblivious to it, and that’s what disturbs me about her.
I don’t think she encourages it because she’d have to address it to begin with which she won’t besides Shane’s doc. If she needs to be taken down, so do morbidly obese people that “encourage” an ED (Binge Eating Disorder), you know? It’s interesting to discuss for sure.
This is when you have conversations with your kids and others that you think are being encouraged to have an ED due to content. It’s sad that we’re a copycat society.
@@anegar3 I’m not sure what you are saying here. I want to understand, can you clarify?
@@raversfantasy Hey, I appreciate your stand point, just wanted to clarify mine a bit more. It’s more than simply promoting content and being who she is. From the angles she sits at to the things she ensures is captured such as her ribs, legs, rib cage, etc., in the halls that she does she definitely parades the body type and if you read through the comments under her post, some that she has “liked” is of people in awe and wishing they had that body type. There are literal messages of people saying they will be skipping meals, fasting for days, or going to purge on Twitter under her posts. An entire community has been built around her. Side note: the hate is cruel and I do not at all support that. But likewise, if I can see these comments just searching her up on Twitter or scrolling through comments, there’s no way she has not seen it. And I believe if you are aware that you are in someway encouraging someone to harm themselves (even if it’s because they just admire your body so much) and you do not speak on it, simply continuing with what you are doing, then you are encouraging that. Same as if you saw one of your children hitting the other across the face and said nothing. I’m not saying she promotes it by going out of her way to parade her figure, but silence does the same amount of damage sometimes. She is an influencer, so she influences.
@@reineb161 oh I was just thinking that Eugenia was influenced by either comments or seeing people that were thin to gain her ED. That her mom needed to explain that she looked beautiful and was healthy.
Thank you for hosting Eugenia.
My heart breaks over her.
I hope her health turns around before it’s too late. Sending you both much love.
She has a victim mentality, we are not saying anything wrong. She doesn't look healthy and it's concerning so of course people are going to talk.... she's knows what's she's doing... she's getting paid to pretend that everything is okay smh..
And the bad thing is, it doesn't even matter if people say something nice or not. At the end of the day, it's all good attention to her. It's confirmation to her that she is indeed getting the results she wants for her body. Not only that, but she's profiting off of it in her streams to creeps who are into bodies like hers. That's bound to make people talk at some point. She doesn't respect herself, so how should people be expected to respect her?
Poor Eugenia. This whole conversation was a huge red flag to me and it's all geared around trauma or people who have used her empathy and kindness for shady reasons or take advantage of her. I know everyone's been upset that she's not listening but when have you listened to her? This girl has been looking to control everything she can. Whether it's a trauma response or what not I'm not surprised she is where she is at now. It's a form of control for her.
Its really concerning how she doesn't see nothing wrong with Shane and Jeffrey Star considering all they've done. In no way she is comparable to them, they deserve the criticism they get, while the hate Eugenia recieves is based on misogyny.
Please don’t compare anyone to anyone else because different situations and lives and I’m not for any hate even towards them.
Spreading hate in general is just wrong. But I mean you do you
My heart sinks so far down when I see her. It's so much worse than when you see an elderly person frail / their body is shutting down.. cause she hasn't even been able to get out there and experience a full life. She is so sweet. It's disheartening that her recovery was so short lived. I hate the actual mean comments.. she doesn't deserve them. I know its uncomfortable to see her & frustrating to witness the denial. I still wish her the most happy and comfortable life possible.
thissssssss
It’s her mom , she has that girl trapped in the house, sometimes she has to ask permission to her mom if she wants to leave the room..
Sloan you’re the best for apologizing and owning up to the things you said. Loved to see it! Inspiring to see you publicly say you were wrong and regret making those videos! You are so kind and so is she for handing everything with so much grace and love.
just to give feed back, i would have liked to see more of the controversial topics. maybe like how she treated you back when you where trying to help her. i remember seeing you cry in some videos i would have liked her to at least acknowledge it. you guys could have talked it through maybe.
Her giggling reminds me when I just seemed not confident, and looking back controlled because I didn’t know what to say. It’s so nerve wracking to see her, I had to take many breaks watching her. I wish she could break through.
it was probably really good for her to talk to someone outside of her strange and insular existence. she must be incredibly lonely
She seems like a lovely person. A very sick person who has the facade of everything being great. My heart hurts for her
I never was a fan of drama channels but the way Sloan handled this podcast is refreshing and he treated her like a human and not a test subject or experiment. regardless of how you feel about Eugenia she is a human. Thank you Sloan keep it up so excited to see how far this podcast will go!
Agghhhhhh her constant laughing and toxic positivity is tough to watch
I don't think it's bullying and harassment. It's people deeply concerned and disturbed. She is clearly about to die and wants a audience. It's heartbreaking.
Have you seen the horrible accounts made of her? People tell her to die or unalive herself everyday….
I also wanna point out I've been in a psych ward. I allowed my abuser to see and talk to me. Because I was in denial. Just like she is.
Exactly. Of course she was willing to talk to her mother, she's brainwashed. It's so sad because she doesn't believe she needs help and for her mom to be mad that professionals deemed it fit for her to be 5150'd tells it all.
How did you get out of this mindset?
@earthlymelodies unfortunately I had to reach a breaking point. Where the pain being caused over road anything I could say to continue lying to myself. And it's actually my mother so I REALLY relate to this. It's all about learning boundaries, being your own support system and learning to validate yourself. Journaling those bad moments so it's there in your face. It's harder to lie to yourself when you start caring about yourself more.
@@thekarmicdf thank you for sharing that.
@earthlymelodies honestly I don't have high hopes for her given what we know. You gotta hit a breaking point and if she's making money, finding unhealthy ways to cope, she'll always find excuses. I did it. I hope I'm wrong. But this is very textbook Stockholm. You either burn up with resentment or you learn to adapt and I think that's what she's doing.
This poor girl is incredibly sick and it's so sad. The problem is the attention and I'd guess money she gets from creeps who enjoy seeing her demise. And although she probably never intended it to be that way she deff feeds into what those ppl want and it's an unfortunate cycle of abuse. I hope she gets help. The internet is prob not a healthy place for her.
It’s wild how the isolation and just living through a computer screen has emotional and psychologically stunted her. The giggling is just weird.
You should’ve asked her why she “randomly” moves heavy items in her room while live streaming… she’s sick
He didn't ask alot- of things.
I wanted to watch this interview but now I'm just depressed. I can't watch eugenia without getting depressed anymore. This is just so tragic.
I would LIVE for raw honesty. She’s intelligent. She knows exactly what she’s doing. She’s not a child. Her platform is harmful. Wonderful interview Sloan. She’s a lovely guest but let’s not pretend she is completely unaware of her ability to monetize off of her sickness. I don’t believe it’s fair to blanket the situation that because she’s sick, she has no moral compass or awareness of her impact
Accountability is forever lacking
I'm going to play the devils advocate and say that I've never seen people get as much hate as she has for being on the opposite end of the spectrum.... like it's fine to be gluttonous and "body positive " . You don't see people call for being de-platformed for being fat and constantly making muckbang videos.. those people are promoting being fat and unhealthy, and even be proud of it sometimes!! Even though we all know she has the ANA ED, I've never heard her say "You should try and be like me".... I dunno... I just think people are more than ruthless to her. Bullying is not ok. And what kind of precedent does that set if platforms decided to kick Eugenia off just because of how she looks..
@@Brain_Kandi you can't be serious. Fat people have been vilified and unacceptable for forever. Being thin is still societies ideal. The only way any of you argue in favor of Eugenia is to vilify fat people. 'But what about the fat and obese' is in every comment section of a Eugenia video, streams and posts. You're not playing devils advocate, you're just parroting the same weak rhetoric as everyone else that tries to defend Eugenias anorexia and denial.
I believe it's important to recognize that people with eating disorders often struggle with denial and may not be fully aware of the impact of their illness. It's not fair to assume that Eugenia is purposely profiting off her sickness when we don't know the full extent of her situation. While it's true that Eugenia is an adult and is responsible for her actions, it's important to recognize that eating disorders are complex mental health issues that are not always easy to understand or control.
@@doctormarvel1894 it's just sad to see her ED harming SO many people beyond just her.
I was a opiate addict and no one could ever make me stop using opiates ... Except for me. one day after 10 years of using I decided to stop on my own and I been clean off of methadone for three years. And it was hard but because I did it for me.... It stuck. I know no one could of made me stop. No one. Only me. Only I had the power to stop myself. Eugenia has the right as an adult to live her experience on this earth the way she wants ... And that's how I feel. Yes I worry about her but it's not my business to tell her how to live her life. She heard it a million times. There's nothing more you can say to her. All you can do is love and support her through it and be there for her when she ask for it.
im not suprised she still refuses to say whats going on and why shes sooo under a healthy weight for her height. its probably an ED and i sincerely hope she gets help before its too late! no one deserves to live in such a malnurished body it must be torture for her
Do you ever wonder who Eugenia would be if there were no ED?
I feel like she has such a guard up and a genuine concern for how certain segments of society see her… I would love to know what’s behind the facade.
I believe most of us battle the darkness in our own ways. Would we see a different woman if her personal darkness didn’t eat away at her physical body?
Would we still love to hate so much? Would she find other creative, artistic outlets if her security didn’t depend on being in the public eye? ( Moreover if her public eyes didn’t depend on her ED.) 👀😑
At this stage when I see her, I find myself watching out of sheer curiosity, feels a bit freak circus-esque… TBH. I’m often ashamed of my own judgment towards her, catch myself wondering if her jewellery is custom made to fit? surely they don’t make jewellery like that for kids? 🤷♀️🤔
The little girl vibe is also unnerving for a grown woman, which I did not know she was until I saw a doc.
I feel way more compassion listening to her talk, but I still yearn for more authenticity. Anyone else?
My theory is that she cannot let us get to reeeeeaaally know her, predominantly because she is yet to know herself.
We can’t show what we don’t know, you know?! Sending her all the love and light… And to those reading! ❤️
I feel like her mother contributes to the little girl syndrome
Best comment 💯
"she is yet to know herself." This is exactly the problem. You are so right in everything you said. I hope for her to get help ASAP and get some physical and mental autonomy, a place of her own, life of her own, mind of her own, away from especially the mother who enables her ED, and a healthy body so she can keep living, enjoy life and all it has to offer.
I wish Jeffrey Starr would acknowledge she has a problem. She worships him! Unfortunately I feel like he only exploited her to promote his own brand, and now that’s she’s been age restricted on TT he’s moved on and doesn’t really care.
I think the problem with “not watching her” is that she will obviously lose followers and resort to showing off her knickers on stream for a buck
People should just leave this girl alone.
You are a fantastic interviewer by the way, your questions are asked in a way so as to not come off as threatening or offensive to her, always very respectful on sensitive topics, and so understanding, you really helped make her feel comfortable to talk. She definitely needs to talk more to real people outside of her home and her stream. Thanks for helping bring her out of her shell a little bit
right??? I'm very impressed. If I was there I would have felt so comfortable with him. He definitely knows how to pace this process. Respect 💗
I cant even look at her. It literally makes my bones ache. 😢 I've hoped for years that she would get the help she needs and deserves, but i feel she has become a lost cause. 💔 it hurts to see this.
It's disheartening to see that she's comfortable with her appearance, and negative attention or bullying won't help her realize that she needs help. ED can cause a distorted perception of one's body, and it's common for those struggling to believe that they look fine. Sadly, many people lack empathy and understanding when it comes to ED. However, it's crucial to approach this issue with sensitivity and awareness of the complexity of ED. ED can have severe physical and mental impacts, and it's essential to seek specialized care and attention. While it's frustrating that Eugenia doesn't recognize her illness, it's crucial not to engage in bullying. Instead, we should increase education and empathy towards those who are struggling with ED. We need to provide support to individuals who are battling ED and encourage them to seek proper help and care. Together, we can create a more compassionate and understanding community towards those struggling with ED.
Best message here. And I appreciate you including her perception b/c for me it's what I mentally need to know as it is distressing to not know her perception. I couldn't sit through all the superfluous chatter without knowing if this would be apparent. I honestly don't care about for example editing, etc but I understand.
The more people say she needs help because she it too skinny the more she will keep doing it. It feeds into it. There's proof on her streams. People will say she's too skinny and she would smile. It's sad and Needs to stop. Tons of body checking after too. I hope she gets the help she desperately needs.
@@me-rf2kt that’s why approaching with love and empathy is always the answer, never hate and bullying 🙂
Love your kindness. ❤️
You have a big heart thanks for saying it in a kind way
I've personally struggled with body dysmorphia and EDs since l was 10, it's very hard and almost impossible to break the cycle, especially when the immediate family have normalised it. I only hope she can see what's truly going on sooner rather than later, an unhealthy cycle is just as damaging as any addiction.
I used to follow Eugenia, but as I saw her deteriorating before my eyes and calling her concerned viewer’s “haters”, shows how out of touch she is. It also, doesn’t sit well with me, that you’re also exploiting her. You know she’s not well and are only enabling her more by agreeing with her for causing “more hate”. This is so messed up.
right? he could just be her friend for real
Agreed, I had a bad feeling seeing the trailer for this podcast he’d end up being a yes man, enabler, and not asking substantial questions.
Yes! Especially when she refuses to age restrict her content & allows pedophiles to mess with the kids in her livestreams. Then stands up for those sick pervs saying “they’re nice”.. WTF! Just because they are nice & give her tips/money. Sad!
She probably would of refused this interview if he didn't agree to be like this, "fake nice". You know dang well she would deflect any real questions or comments
Okay but she discusses and is questioned about her eating disorder every single day. Wouldn't it be great to give the poor woman a break?
i think it’s worth noting that in january she said her entire comeback was scripted, and has doubled down on that several times since this interview was made
All of her answers are very surface level and vague. I don’t see a genuine person here I see a people pleaser. I was hoping this interview would open her up. This could have been a great podcast but you can’t make someone open up I guess. Darn. Nothing against her cause she is nice, just doesn’t seem like the real Eugenia
I think at this point she is afraid to open up and just be herself because people have been so cruel and bullied her and picked at every little thing she does. Can’t say I blame her.
@@cinnamongirl23 when she did open up about her disorder a few years ago she received more support than ever.
Eugenia is sick ): if we comment it feeds into her if we don’t then she’s gonna still continue to do bc we aren’t noticing . If she really wanted help she would need to come off the internet and clear her mind . So heartbreaking to see she genuinely likes how she looks she’s so far gone
I noticed throughout the entire interview Eugenia had a light, fluffy, high pitched, smiling persona. The second she started talking about the 5150 situation, she became more authentic embracing her natural voice. I can only hope that one day she realizes that she can be "herself" and stop trying to be light and fluffy all of the time. Life is hard, it sucks sometimes and its ok to be authentic and speak your mind, in tough situations. She honestly seems like a sweet and beautiful person but so so sad and broken on the inside. I also hope she will show herself some genuine self-love and become the best version of Eugenia.
All I have to say is, I'm glad I listened to the audio only.
It's so triggering and upsetting watching her.
Even listening, you can hear that she's hiding behind fake laughs 😔