The Effectiveness Of The LDS Indian Placement Program?

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    There has been much criticism of the Indian Placement Program conducted in the last century, but so many participants have confirmed their positive experiences with it.
    In this episode, Betty LaFontaine, a child participant in the program, gives a detailed account of her experiences in the program and what it has meant to her. How did she hold on to her own culture? What kind of relationship did and does she have with the foster families she spent so much time with?
    If you would like to give feedback on the Indian Placement program to the guest, you can contact Betty LaFontaine at redant48@gmail.com
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Komentáře • 275

  • @mokaifish1594
    @mokaifish1594 Před 29 dny +38

    Both of my parents went on the Indian placement program. They were placed with incredible Latter Day Saint families who raised them as their own and to this day we are their family. I know it was so hard for my grandparents to send their children away, but they wanted their children to have a better life. They wanted them to have a good education, to have the gospel in their lives, and have a stable home life. Because my grandparents made this huge sacrifice my parents life and my life has been incredibly blessed!! Jesus Christ and his gospel are everything. Betty is absolutely beautiful inside and out. She has such a wonderful testimony!! Thank you for sharing this interview.

    • @Yazzie60
      @Yazzie60 Před 10 dny

      Thank you
      Thank you ❤

  • @markforbes1537
    @markforbes1537 Před 29 dny +28

    Our family in Southern California had the blessing to participate in this wonderful program. My native brother is my Eternal brother and his children are just as much grandchildren to my parents as my children. Our family didn’t have much but we had love to share and our home had the spirit of the gospel. My native brother taught me so much about seeing so much good in other cultures. We fought like brothers and forgave like brothers. We did everything together and my life and his life will forever be blessed because of this program. I will never forget when he read the Book of Mormon and he read about how this book spoke to him from the dust. I felt like I was able to witness fulfillment of prophecy.

  • @2001bliss
    @2001bliss Před 29 dny +51

    My parents had 4 kids from the Indian placement program. Not all at the same time. We loved them all. We still keep in touch with them. They became family

  • @veritasrestituta812
    @veritasrestituta812 Před 29 dny +76

    No politics no anger no demands just love and the spirit. Now this is a representative of the best Native Americans have to offer, beautiful.

    • @ColemanOutdoors
      @ColemanOutdoors Před 28 dny +3

      Couldn't have said it better myself!

    • @StandforTruth712
      @StandforTruth712 Před 28 dny +1

      I assume you're referring to Chief Midegah when you say " no anger, no demands"?

    • @ClintThomsen
      @ClintThomsen Před 28 dny +2

      @@StandforTruth712it’s definitely what I thought of. No thanks on the perpetually pissed off Midegah.

    • @stephtimms1776
      @stephtimms1776 Před 28 dny +8

      That's how they'll blossom; focusing on and bringing out the best, like Jesus does with all of us.

    • @marykatewiley2732
      @marykatewiley2732 Před 28 dny +9

      I believe you are being very unfair to Midegah, his past is very different, I welcome them both, strong beautiful spirit. I will refuse to judge

  • @lindamoses3697
    @lindamoses3697 Před 29 dny +50

    ❤It was a wonderful program for our family. Our foster brother says it saved him from abuse from a person in his tribe.We gained a great respect for the posterity of Lehi. My sisters attended a Pow Wow last summer to see our foster brother dance. He won a big prize and they were so excited to see him dance. We love him and his people. It gave us a real experience with the Book of Mormon.

  • @NanageneBrenda
    @NanageneBrenda Před 29 dny +28

    The only sisters I had were because of the Placement Program. (I have 3 biological brothers.) I love these sisters and have never forgotten the impact they had on my life. Kitty Colleen and Marilyn taught me so much about their culture, food, and traditions and I’ll be forever grateful for their friendship. Those 2 years were amazing!
    The negativity I’m hearing from some is puzzling, because my experience was just wonderful!

  • @livinthedream4479
    @livinthedream4479 Před 29 dny +53

    Her testimony brought me to tears. I feel she is so right. People like her who have testimony need to be the ones to bring it to their own people.

  • @TheMarsmares
    @TheMarsmares Před 29 dny +25

    We were a young poor family yet wanted to participate as a foster family. It was a wonderful experience for us.

  • @quiltmania58
    @quiltmania58 Před 29 dny +42

    What a sweet spirit! This was like a breath of fresh air admist all the heavyness/hatefullness of the times. God bless you, my dear sister.

  • @matildabanana3516
    @matildabanana3516 Před 29 dny +38

    The feeling I get as I watch this is so much more peaceful and content than what I felt with Midegah. I watched so many of his interviews, and he was more deferential to the Church with active members, but criticized lots of policies, particularly vetting policies like issuing temple recommends, when speaking with people who were more open to that. He resents people questioning his authority and motives, as if frauds don’t exist on the internet. He is charming and very good looking, and makes people want to protect him. My ex was the same way, and he was evil.
    This woman speaks the truth humbly and kindly, and doesn’t ask us to prop her up; she knows who she is. She humbly defers to the church instead of insisting her traditions are superior. She doesn’t contradict the leadership of the Church, and adds her story to all of ours. Thank you for showing us a real person, a Dene woman who is our sister in Christ; what a contrast to that guy.

    • @1truelies00
      @1truelies00 Před 29 dny +3

      @@matildabanana3516
      It is because she is a True Native…

    • @kevingarner1558
      @kevingarner1558 Před 29 dny +11

      @@1truelies00 Chief Midegah has had a very different life and I don't think his approach is always helpful, but comments like yours are part of what has caused some of his resentment and anger. We need to hear all perspectives to truly understand our Native brothers and sisters.

    • @amynazza
      @amynazza Před 29 dny +4

      Midegah was a marine and when I listen to him I feel like I can hear the military training. It doesn’t bother me 🤷‍♀️

    • @ColemanOutdoors
      @ColemanOutdoors Před 28 dny +2

      Right on!

    • @matildabanana3516
      @matildabanana3516 Před 28 dny +5

      @@kevingarner1558 You don’t think this woman gets criticized too? Of course she does. It just doesn’t get to her because she has the Spirit of God with her.
      I find Midegah to be manipulative and pushing something insidious. It wasn’t in his interview on this channel, but elsewhere, he spoke of whites as “the oppressors” as if he isn’t mostly white lol. This type of language I associate with socialist propaganda and reject it without very good explanations as to why he would say that. When I hear him, I get very angry for his people, which is justified. However, that isn’t how God moves us. He moves us to his Son, and to forgiveness and love and peace. Anger, as we all know, ultimately leads to the Dark Side.

  • @patriciapeters2152
    @patriciapeters2152 Před 29 dny +23

    Betty is the real deal! She is a light to her people, but so much more! I met her this spring and we had the opportunity to hear her and others interpret the petroglyphs out by Price canyon. She was prepared and baked fry bread for one and all , feed every person and embraced us with her testimony, absolutely inclusive in every way! She also played the flute on site. It was magical

  • @gondorr3460
    @gondorr3460 Před 29 dny +11

    What a lovely woman with a beautiful testimony. I appreciated her witness for Christ and the Book of Mormon as well as her sharing of her native culture. Thanks for having her on your podcast, Greg.

  • @riannelson67
    @riannelson67 Před 29 dny +12

    Love the interview. The Indian placement program was such a blessing for may wonderful Native Americans. Betty is such a fantastic representative of the great Lamanites in this world. Thank you for having Betty on your podcast.

  • @MrRickb75645
    @MrRickb75645 Před 28 dny +8

    She is so right . About some of us being members for years and never being truly converted. I've been a member for Fifty five years of my sixty five years. And it wasn't till these last few years that I truly started to understand what our father in heaven really wants of us. And actually started studying the scriptures and the history of our church. I'm so blessed by our father in heaven to have known so many people who have guided me and showed me what to do. How I'm so grateful for our father I. Heaven.and Jesus Christ.

  • @bobettepage4440
    @bobettepage4440 Před 29 dny +11

    Betty, I love you and your testimony. I have always felt a deep love for the Native American people and then I discovered that my 5th great grandmother was a full Cherokee and I come through her son. At that time it was against the law for Europeans to marry Natives but because they had a son they had to get divorced. That son had a daughter and I come from that line. As much as I hated the Covid lockdown it was a blessing because I started studying genealogy. Thank you for blessing me today with your story and your music.❤

  • @ColemanOutdoors
    @ColemanOutdoors Před 28 dny +7

    Beautiful! Sister LaFontaine is an example of the pure love of Christ. Loved hearing her positive and pragmatic insight with the program.
    Thanks for the uplifting start to the morning, Greg. Right up there with the "Verse of the Day" and "Quote of the Day"😉

  • @rogerhill2203
    @rogerhill2203 Před 27 dny +5

    I attended the Ute Powwow and bought some food and looking for a place to sit and eat, there was a table with an empty chair. the other five chairs were being used by 5 women. It turned out that they were navajos and were visiting for the ute pow wow. It took about 10 seconds to get acquainted with them. then for the next half hour I joked and laughed with them as they mercilessly teased each other. I laughed the whole time they were there. Then they left and I realized that I was alone and missed them terribly. They had more fun in that half hour than I had all day. They are a happy loving people and your guest is a perfect ambassador for the Navajo people. Thank you for sharing her with us.

  • @DawnaRo
    @DawnaRo Před 29 dny +12

    I was an only child and was in high school when a girl in the Indian Placement Program came to live with us. She was a year younger than I was. She adored my parents and called them mom and dad. Her children grew up calling them grandpa and grandma.
    When we were teens and I would have friends over, my sister would go to her room. I thought she didn't like my friends and that made us less close. It was years later that I learned that she would leave when my friends came because the previous family she had lived with for 3 or 4 years had told her to do that when their children's friends came over. I feel so bad I didn't know this years sooner.
    My husband and our children and I moved many miles away and we didn't see one another much for 20 years.
    Today we only live about 10 miles from one another. Neither of us can can drive in our old age, so we talk on the phone and help one another do temple work for our distant relatives. I can't see to find the names, and she can't drive either. I have a friend and neighbor who takes me to the temple weekly and I often have names from my sister that I do the work for. Consequently we frequently chat on the phone and always end our conversation with "I love you."
    We have grown closer in our old age. I'm so glad she came to us and only wish she had been able to do so before going to another family. I think we would have been much closer, but we do love each other as sisters.

  • @lorineschocknmyer9671
    @lorineschocknmyer9671 Před 29 dny +39

    Yaahteeh! I grew up in Montezuma Creek, Utah (Navajo reservation). Dad and Grandpa were oil field welders. Being white on the reservation was normal to me, and I have friends I grew up with and they are friends forever.
    Sis LaFontaine. When you said children need to know they are a child of God and that He loves them... that pierced me to the bone. I felt that testimony and I know it's true. Thank you for sharing your placement program story. I always missed my placement friends during the school year and looked forward to summer when they would be home, and I could see them again at Church on Sunday.

  • @johnbushman57
    @johnbushman57 Před 29 dny +15

    Thank you, Sister LaFontaine. You are a beautiful person, and I loved your message and story and testimony. Thank you for speaking up for the LDS Indian Placement Program. My family never participated as a foster family, but I had many good Navajo friends through the years. I always hoped they'd be back the next school year. They appeared happy to participate, and it seemed like a good program. The cultural exchange was good for us too, and I learned to love The Dine' or The People (Navajos) and still do.

  • @godsoffspring4195
    @godsoffspring4195 Před 29 dny +24

    If one does not understand the words.... you cannot escape the testimony of the flute. :>)

  • @Jan-wd1is
    @Jan-wd1is Před 29 dny +11

    I don't know why I'm crying, but she touched my heart! Thank you

    • @redant48
      @redant48 Před 25 dny

      Truly a Spiritual connection, Thanks Creator Bless you!

  • @darleneallred7433
    @darleneallred7433 Před 29 dny +26

    Thank you Gred for showing the other side and getting a 1st hand experience so we can see the whole picture. Thank you Betty, for sharing your story and your testimony ❤

  • @daveallred1810
    @daveallred1810 Před 28 dny +6

    While serving in the Phoenix mission during the 80s, I learned to live the Native Americans. One of my favorite companions was Navajo. Truly a blessed people.

  • @smuggythornton
    @smuggythornton Před 29 dny +10

    I served in Rapid City South Dakota Mission and was fully engulfed in the program and it was inspired and brought joy into many children’s life, so sad it has been demonized.

  • @janepaton2698
    @janepaton2698 Před 29 dny +10

    What a beautiful woman. I’ve never heard a personal story/testimony of the Placement Program.
    Betty’s testimony has strengthened me and my own testimony. Thank you.
    I have to tell you also Greg, that you are such a special, kind man. CWIC media is wonderful.

  • @janfelshaw8217
    @janfelshaw8217 Před 29 dny +26

    This was such a great interview. Sister LaFontaine, thank you for sharing your experience and testimony. You represent what was hoped for in the Indian Placement Program. I loved the flute! Such a beautiful tone in the flute.

  • @a-o-kay
    @a-o-kay Před 29 dny +26

    Wow! We had two placement sisters. I often wonder where they are. One of them saved the life of a girl at a swimming pool while she was with us. Betty is such a beautiful grateful person. Thank you for having her share her experience!

  • @robwheeler7283
    @robwheeler7283 Před 29 dny +10

    Hello Greg! I meant you at Firm Foundation BofM two conferences ago. Love your podcast, and thank you for having Betty Lafontaine on, what an inspiration. Thank you Betty for sharing your experiences and testimony. I too, am a product of the Indian Placement Program. There are many many of us out there that has been blessed by this program. Yes, there are some that did not work out for them, but I believe there are far more positive then negative. Those that speak out against this program, speak with some sort of agenda. Spiritual blessings have come to not just students, but also to foster families and the parents and grandparents of those placement students. The love and sacrifice of parents and grandparents(many of us were raise by grandparents) to send their kids out for a better education and opportunity, this was all voluntary. Thank you for this podcast.

    • @redant48
      @redant48 Před 25 dny

      Thank you Rob for giving your input and sharing your experience on the program, what a blessing indeed!

  • @idahowildflower2613
    @idahowildflower2613 Před 28 dny +5

    My husband and I served a 16 month mission to the Navajo Nation in 2008 - 2010. It was a wonderful experience. We loved the people, especially the children. We learned so much from the people and the land.

  • @marlenaasprey4653
    @marlenaasprey4653 Před 29 dny +8

    I have an uncle that was part of the beginning of the IPP. He has alway been amazing to me. I can't emangine him being part of any of the horrors being told these days . Another uncle and his family always had an indian placement child or two. The recount Betty has told is the type of things I ever heard. One stayed with them for 8 years . When one wanted to go home because she was so homesick there was no problem. Each experience for each person is different I love the gospel and respect what it does.

  • @ClintThomsen
    @ClintThomsen Před 28 dny +5

    What a powerful message from a sweet, reassuring voice! Great interview.

  • @daphnehayes7255
    @daphnehayes7255 Před 29 dny +21

    My teen Native sister and brother are still so loved. I learned about 2 other cultures. We learned from each other. Both of them went on to live good lives...get advanced education...one in the church and one who eventually left the church. Yes, there were challenges, but there was also great love...a new love. Having grown up with native children, having native children live with us felt right. My parents were very aware of the difficulties that native families faced, just with slight differences for each child.
    I love that your guest explains the meshing of good cultural traditions with the gospel. Beautiful!

  • @shawndiebold
    @shawndiebold Před 29 dny +29

    As you said Greg, it’s powerful to hear a testimony from a Native American. I feel the same way hearing a testimony from a Jew. The natural branches have so much strength. This was a great discussion.

  • @StandforTruth712
    @StandforTruth712 Před 28 dny +4

    Thank you for you sweet spirit and testimony Sister LaFontaine!

  • @Afc91artistNC
    @Afc91artistNC Před 28 dny +4

    My Grandpa/Grandma wanted me to go on the Placement. They told me they're getting old/might not be able to raise me. So, I did. What's been the greatest gift was hearing Grandpa John singing Cheyenne songs in the early morning in LD-MT. After, high school friend wanted me to go to BYU. Her family became my family. Yeah, even tho I had 2 sets of foster family in the ward I attended when I got a job. We never visit or did they send over an invitation. I was blessed anyway.

  • @lorenefullmer8495
    @lorenefullmer8495 Před 29 dny +7

    Betty thank you for sharing your story. Your words touched my heart so much. When I was growing up, there were usually kids who were in the placement program in my ward in Seattle. They became one of the family of who they were living with, and part of our ward. Some of them came back year after year, and they were missed when they weren't there. Although it seems there may have been problems for some in the program, I'm glad that the program worked and helped many others. Now I'm a school teacher and I am always excited when I have a Native American child in my class. I try to make sure they feel included and some of their culture is shared with the class. Thank you for your beautiful flute playing, once again you touched my heart.

  • @coxrocks25
    @coxrocks25 Před 29 dny +5

    My grandmother was one of the corner stones of that program in its early days. She did amazing things for many kids. Kay Cox was her name. I'm very proud of her for it.

  • @nathanparry675
    @nathanparry675 Před 27 dny +2

    Our "Indian Sister" Hellen, to this day, still visits us and has maintained a multi-years relationship with our family. She especially loves our mother who has kept the relationship open and ongoing.

  • @marykatewiley2732
    @marykatewiley2732 Před 29 dny +12

    She’s a beautiful women with a strong and beautiful spirit, loved the flute at the end. Hope you have more Native American on.😊

  • @celestiallymindedsaints
    @celestiallymindedsaints Před 29 dny +8

    I have a Navajo "Uncle" (my dad's foster brother from the Indian placement program who came when he was 8 I believe) who is just as much of an uncle to me as my other uncles, and he still comes to family events to this day. 💗

  • @wendyfoster5579
    @wendyfoster5579 Před 29 dny +9

    Betty has a wonderful testimony and what a delight she is. My husband has an Indian brother who would come every year for the school year. Stan was a great member of his family. He would often come and spend time with the family for decades after until his parents passed away. His life on the reservation wasn’t very stable so it was positive for him to see a healthy family.

  • @bilagaana1238
    @bilagaana1238 Před 29 dny +9

    I’ve personally met many many people who were in the Indian Placement Program. They have only said great things about their experience!!

  • @stacygodnick3887
    @stacygodnick3887 Před 29 dny +5

    I love this woman!
    Ever since I was a young girl, I've had an affinity for the indigenous Indians, like they were my family. My mother felt the same way.

  • @deborahjones8175
    @deborahjones8175 Před 29 dny +9

    Great episode. Thank you, Greg! We lived in Arizona for many years and my husband taught school
    on a White Mountain Apache reservation. He was so impressed with how spiritual the Apache people he worked with were. This episode was so
    interesting and heartfelt.

  • @juliehorsegirl
    @juliehorsegirl Před 29 dny +6

    Thank you Sister LaFontaine for your testimony through words and music. I’m feeling ill today and missed church and this helped me feel so much better!

  • @CMZIEBARTH
    @CMZIEBARTH Před 29 dny +5

    I gained a Native American cousin from this program. I bumped into him in 2019 and asked him if he felt the program had done him wrong since I had started hearing such accusations. He stated he hadn't had a problem with it.

  • @patrickreynolds801
    @patrickreynolds801 Před 29 dny +5

    Having Served my mission on the Rez in Tuba City I can testify of the blessings of the placement program. Many of the people gained a better education and moved into college for degrees to take the skills back to the people. Beautiful testamony Sis.LaFontaine.

  • @nanciejepsen6614
    @nanciejepsen6614 Před 28 dny +2

    Thank you Betty for your beautiful words. I am humbled and grateful to hear from you. I remember our stake in Vancouver Canada hosting young people in the program. My mother was a young woman’s teacher and grew to have a lovely relationship
    with one of the young girls .When
    it came time for
    them all to leave we
    met at the stake centre and my mother had brought a beautiful dress and wrapped it up to give to her student. They hugged and cried as they said goodbye. The families who hosted these youngsters people were strong members and we sang God be with you till we meet again as they boarded the bus.
    I think most people in the program benefited from their participation. I don’t believe the church owes apologies for their service in this program.

  • @denisemilne1330
    @denisemilne1330 Před 29 dny +10

    Thank you, Betty, for sharing your heartfelt testimony and life story. Thanks, Gregg, for having Betty on your show. Watching from New Zealand ❤

  • @brendahelquist8823
    @brendahelquist8823 Před 29 dny +13

    Thank you for this. My grandmother was part of the organization of the Indian placement program. I had a Native American brother that came and stay with us during school season.. He was my brother, from another parents.. but I loved him as much as I loved my other siblings.

  • @personalitymanager1580
    @personalitymanager1580 Před 29 dny +6

    Thank you so much. It is great to know the good that has come out of this program. I would like to know more about it. I have wondered about it and know so little. A friend of mine, she and her husband, were killed when their plane crashed while transporting some students, either going to or from the reservation to this program.

  • @everydaycookingwithann9502

    I loved loved having 3 brothers and 1 sister growing up in the 70’s with these wonderful children who grew up with us in the Indian Placement Program! Life changing for all of us!

  • @jowosocal
    @jowosocal Před 29 dny +13

    I really loved listening to and learning from this this morning. Betty has such a wonderfully uplifting spirit that radiates from her. We had a few Native American children live with families in our ward in the Bay Area in California. I was a teenager when they were about 10
    so I didn’t pay too much attention to it all but it I recall feeling love for the kids that came and stayed awhile. Our ward always felt like one big family.

  • @juliemonroe3055
    @juliemonroe3055 Před 29 dny +5

    Thank you for such an inspiring interview!
    When I was 13 my parents decided that we had been blessed with lots of room in our home and that we were going to share with a lamanite brother. He was 10 years old the same age as my brother. His name was Bruce, and we truly had a brother from another mother. My parents gave him the same love that the rest of their children felt.
    It was such a beautiful thing to watch Bruce bond to our family. I feel like he loved us like we loved him. We had Bruce for 3 years. Every year he came really thin and seemed frightened, but it didn't take long for my mom to fill him with food and love. When our family went to pick him up for our forth year we found out the devastating news. A few weeks prior,Bruce had been found murdered and left in a ditch. Our hearts were broken. Watching my parents weep over our brother was so hard! We were never able to get additional information. I'm just so thankful for all that I learned from Bruce, for the love our family felt from Bruce and the love we were able to give.

    • @Yazzie60
      @Yazzie60 Před 29 dny +3

      Thank you so much for your family opening their hearts to this young man. My heart aches for your family. But you all showed him the love he needed at that time. He is at a place where our Savior lives.
      Love & many blessings,
      Betty

    • @1truelies00
      @1truelies00 Před 28 dny +2

      I’m so sorry for your loss..

  • @artgirlkerri
    @artgirlkerri Před 29 dny +13

    What a wonderful interview! Thank you!

  • @patriot8087
    @patriot8087 Před 29 dny +5

    What a beautiful story Betty tells of her life, in the Indian Placement program. Thank You Kindly.

  • @kerstenlindhardt1653
    @kerstenlindhardt1653 Před 29 dny +12

    I loved the flute music at the end ♥️ What a lovely guest. Her testimony radiates from her!

    • @riannelson67
      @riannelson67 Před 29 dny +1

      I have heard Betty's flute so much and it touches my heart every time.

  • @teresawoodside4051
    @teresawoodside4051 Před 29 dny +12

    I love the Navajo people. I was in the MTC with a Navajo Sister missionary her name was Sister Tacheenee! She tried to teach me Navajo but I was a lost cause. My son served part of his mission on the Navajo reservations in Arizona and spent much time trying to help those with alcohol problems. There will always be those who will demonize that which is of God! Thank you for this very inspiring episode!

  • @michellescott619
    @michellescott619 Před 29 dny +7

    Great interview. Love hearing her positive experiences

  • @davidlewis9020
    @davidlewis9020 Před 29 dny +10

    What a wonderful piece. We love our Navajo (Dine) brothers and sisters. Truely an inspired program! I miss living in Gallup.

    • @alindalt2897
      @alindalt2897 Před 29 dny

      @@davidlewis9020 my aunt was from Gallup. My mom was raised in ramah. We spent a lot of time traveling through Gallup, visiting my aunt, as we would go to ramah!

  • @DestroyerOfWords
    @DestroyerOfWords Před 28 dny +3

    I've seen amazing results from this program, despite some human flaws, it has been a great work.
    Naturally, the spirit of resentment is constantly looking for cracks to enter therein. Give any human being a book and they'll either use it to glean truth or level a table.

  • @shelleyrogge2924
    @shelleyrogge2924 Před 29 dny +4

    What a BEAUTIFUL WOMAN, Betty is!! ❤❤ And she has such a beautiful and strong testimony!! I've often worried, (as a white person, growing up in and around LDS folks, and I had a few friends who were in the church foster program),.. I worried as I grew up, whether or not the program affected their lives in a positive way or not. My friends were always so quiet spoken and even very subtle in their behavior. They never spoke much, let alone speaking about their homes they'd come from, or what it was like. Or even whether they missed their homes or not. I assumed that most of the kids were taught totally different social graces and behaviors which entailed being quiet and subdued, to not draw attention to themselves. I respected that and let it go. I'm happy to hear that Betty and her siblings all had positive experiences in the program! 😊 I've always loved the Native American cultures, ever since I was a little girl. It wasn't really until going into my teens that I paid enough attention to understand that the Bof M was literally about them! And it just made me love them more! Does the church take part of tithing or other misc donations people give to continue helping the people on reservations? What are all the services does the church offer them?

  • @michaelparry1383
    @michaelparry1383 Před 29 dny +5

    Greg, Thank you so much for hosting Betty and letting her share her experience. This was a great story and testimony of the power of God.

  • @ChapinaUSA
    @ChapinaUSA Před 29 dny +3

    I felt a lovely spiritual connection to Sister LaFontaine ❤

  • @celindahearld1328
    @celindahearld1328 Před 29 dny +11

    What a beautiful testimony she has!
    Thank you for having her on Greg, allowing us to hear another life 8f a Native Amerucan! I just find this so very spiritualky moving and excitinh!

  • @swampfaye
    @swampfaye Před 29 dny +6

    My foster sister did well and came back every year even after the program ended. Her parents were very happy about her education and opportunities. She lives on the Res now. I think she's doing pretty good.

  • @robertrobb3159
    @robertrobb3159 Před 29 dny +3

    Our family participated in the IPP. John Billy came to live with us. He was a Navajo that was my age. He stayed with us for every year of my high school years.

  • @AmberBoyle-yr3rh
    @AmberBoyle-yr3rh Před 29 dny +8

    Thanks so much for this conversation!! It is so important. Betty, your words went straight to my soul 🥰

  • @zionmama150
    @zionmama150 Před 29 dny +8

    Thanks for doing this episode Greg. I have uncles and aunts who were in the Indian placement program, or at least adopted uncles and aunts. We knew them as our aunts and uncles. They were being molested and neglected while they were on the Indian reservation, and they were exposed to alcohol and drugs. And it is sad that they had to be taken away from their traditions, is it better that they would’ve stayed and learned their traditions, but also continued to be molested and encouraged to drink alcohol? The thing is that most of the Native Americans have some sort of prophecy that warned their people about staying away from alcohol. But many of them did not listen. they took the poison and the bait and because of it, their posterity was affected, and so the Lord had to intervene by allowing his church to take them away from their homes. This ideally was not the best option, but it was better than what they would’ve had otherwise. Because they would’ve ended up just destroying any semblance of tradition they had under the guise of alcohol and sin.
    Chief Midegah needs to realize this. He is wrong in this point.

    • @1truelies00
      @1truelies00 Před 29 dny +1

      Yes a many other points he has stated..❤

    • @kevingarner1558
      @kevingarner1558 Před 29 dny +2

      @@1truelies00 He has also brought to light for many of us many unjust things that have happened to the Native Americans. We need to hear all sides and understand what has been contributing factors for many of the problems the Native People have and are dealing with.

    • @zionmama150
      @zionmama150 Před 28 dny

      @@kevingarner1558 I think there is wisdom in that. However, I also noticed that when someone is an accuser, they don’t often want to compromise, but to continue to accuse, and if I happen to see this from him, well… I will just not trust that he is in the right spirit

  • @bonnieweston3719
    @bonnieweston3719 Před 29 dny +4

    Just lived this!! What a wonderful woman, Betty, thank you. ❤️

  • @charlesmcknight5794
    @charlesmcknight5794 Před 29 dny +8

    Love Betty’s story before, during and after the Indian Placement program

  • @richardrubert1359
    @richardrubert1359 Před 29 dny +8

    Thank you for the followup. The last one had some stated errors and this one cleared some of those up. I saw this program up front and it's potential was amazing.

  • @TreasureofTruth
    @TreasureofTruth Před 29 dny +6

    My uncle's family had an Indian daughter through this program. They treated her like family and still get together during the Christmas season and summer to meet up. I was very young when this happened and I grew up thinking she was their biological child that like their older children didn't live at home anymore and was doing college.

  • @kayemwhitney3809
    @kayemwhitney3809 Před 29 dny +3

    She is such an inspiration. I appreciate her great attitude and her testimony. My brother had a foster son from the reservation. He eventually married and brought his wife and family back to our very small farming
    town. There was much good that was done by the placement program.

  • @ralphy12345
    @ralphy12345 Před 28 dny +3

    So awesome! Thanks Greg I really felt the spirit during her interview.

  • @shellyspackman738
    @shellyspackman738 Před 29 dny +3

    Thank you! I grew up with an older sister that came to our family from the Placement program. We love her . Still is part of our family.

  • @Ily779
    @Ily779 Před 29 dny +5

    I had no idea this was a thing. I’m not sure how I didn’t know that this happened. That’s awesome. What is more loving than bringing a child into you home. That’s real love.

  • @garyesmay
    @garyesmay Před 29 dny +6

    Greg, Thank you for sharing Sis LaFontaine with us! My grandfather ran the Totso trading post on the Navajo Reservation and we spent many wonderful summer days there.

  • @JaneHawkes-w2f
    @JaneHawkes-w2f Před 29 dny +7

    I cried through this interview thank you sister

  • @gloriaprice4861
    @gloriaprice4861 Před 27 dny +3

    👋 hi😊.
    I'm Betty's younger sister (the little 8 year old😇 she mentioned).
    I attest to everything that my sister spoke of. She's such a great Dine' Asdzaa. I'm proud of you, sister. Yes, the Indian placement program was a great experience. Thank you for sharing your testimony. Love you, shaadi (sister)❤

  • @alindalt2897
    @alindalt2897 Před 29 dny +33

    Need to listen to this one. My family is from farmington, New Mexico. When we moved to utah years and years ago I remeber my parents doing this when I was a young girl. One girl was like a sister. We had her for two years. One girl was a real trial. She didn’t stay for long. We still have some contact with the first girl through Facebook but she didn’t stay in the church. She was a good friend and we loved her like a sister. As a side note my son got to return to Farmington for his mission. It was a special experience for him to teach on the reservation. I’m sorry I’m commenting before listening.
    Years ago the church also produced a series of short videos that had something to do with the native Americans. Life is a wonderful journey. I loved watching those. I wish I could find those again.

    • @PapaKryptoss
      @PapaKryptoss Před 29 dny +8

      I’m from Farmington as well. The Navajo people have a hard time with religion. I had many Navajo friends and they turned to drinking in the late 70s.

    • @alindalt2897
      @alindalt2897 Před 29 dny +13

      @@PapaKryptoss my mom was actually from Ramah. But her family moved to Farmington when she was a teenager. I am the youngest of seven and they didn’t leave Farmington until after I was one or two. She and my father are both buried in Ramah along side her parents and relatives. Member retention and Alcohol is a big problem. My son got to see that first hand how hard it was to teach the gospel and get people to come back to church. Their typical branch size averaged about 15 to 20 people. But boy did he ever learn to love the Navajo people!

    • @ruthdavis7114
      @ruthdavis7114 Před 28 dny +1

      The name of the videos were "Tom Trails"

  • @lw1959
    @lw1959 Před 29 dny +4

    Thank you for sharing your experience Betty! You are beautiful!

  • @Jan-wd1is
    @Jan-wd1is Před 29 dny +5

    The beautiful flute ! Thank you Betty and Greg

  • @dhr161
    @dhr161 Před 29 dny +4

    Great episode. She has such an important life story to tell.

  • @GeneWhite-eo5zb
    @GeneWhite-eo5zb Před 29 dny +7

    We had an Navajo student for 8 years. Great family experience. Still connected 30 years later.

  • @blainepalmer5967
    @blainepalmer5967 Před 28 dny +4

    What a sweet, powerful testimony she has. Made me stronger. Thank you.

  • @maxbarker1428
    @maxbarker1428 Před 29 dny +4

    On the Indian Placement Program vs the Indian Schools, such as the one that was in Brigham City Utah. I would like to learn more about those who went to the schools. I had relatives who fostered indian children. It was a very good thing for their family and the children. I'm unclear on how well the students in the schools did.

  • @jilldowding-walker8066
    @jilldowding-walker8066 Před 29 dny +7

    Very wonderful that this sister had such an overwhelmingly positive experience! It was uplifting to listen to her. Fascinating!
    😊🎉❤
    My heart goes out to those who encountered abuse in their experiences. 😪

  • @esthermitte2895
    @esthermitte2895 Před 29 dny +4

    My beautiful friend Betty! Beautiful testimony, thank you so much for sharing this with the world!

    • @Yazzie60
      @Yazzie60 Před 29 dny +2

      Love you friend!
      Thanks. ❤

    • @1truelies00
      @1truelies00 Před 28 dny +2

      Thank you Esther you have been a good friend to my wife, which means a lot!!

  • @pktheviking
    @pktheviking Před 28 dny +2

    I didn't know what to expect when I clicked on this video, and I was pleasantly surprised. Hearing her testimony and how her family has gone in to serve in the church and in their tribe. I believe that is what the program was about. I felt the Spirit as she played "Come Thou Fount.". It was the lift I needed today.

  • @debbiebeck4986
    @debbiebeck4986 Před 26 dny +2

    Oh Betty, I just love your faith and your testimony. I love your understanding you have of your life at home as a little girl and your life as a child in the placement program. It makes me cry because of your testimony. You have a marvelous mother! She wanted the best for you.

  • @the5throse
    @the5throse Před 29 dny +4

    Such a beautiful and humble soul, I enjoy this interview very much!
    Thank you to both of you ❤

  • @chucknelson1079
    @chucknelson1079 Před 29 dny +4

    So glad that is back in the hymn book ❤

  • @RA-go4zq
    @RA-go4zq Před 27 dny +3

    I have heard both sides of the coin from families who participated in hosting. Betty thank you for sharing your testimony. It is powerful and strong. ❤

  • @shannakoyle748
    @shannakoyle748 Před 29 dny +4

    Thank you for this incredibly informative discussion, her testimony is beautiful.

  • @chadpearson1572
    @chadpearson1572 Před 29 dny +6

    One of your best presentations!❤

  • @MrGillfish5
    @MrGillfish5 Před 29 dny +5

    Follow you often bro. Greg and this is one of my favorite episodes. Very uplifting and encouraging. Keep up the good work. 👍🏻

  • @shaneluck2570
    @shaneluck2570 Před 26 dny +2

    I am a personal witness of the love and compassion of the families and the kids that were placed in our home. We loved them and their families. They were a huge positive influence in our lives as we grew up together. They returned to their home each year and then returned. We are still close and we love them like our own siblings. They have gone on to become beautiful productive adults with wonderful children. I personally was left with an eternal love for the native people. They have a divine spirit.

  • @carlshakespear7345
    @carlshakespear7345 Před 29 dny +3

    My experiences with two Navajo foster sisters who were a few years older and later a brother a few years younger than me was very positive from my perspective . The sisters returned to the “res” and lived productive lives but sadly the brother after returning to Crown Point died in a car accident.